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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: East Coast Hustle on March 30, 2005, 04:02:36 PM

Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 30, 2005, 04:02:36 PM
At this point, we can assume that the decline of American geopolitical influence is inevitable, and that in a few short years we will be briefly on an equal footing with the Chinese as they pass us for ascendancy to Global Superpower status. The only possible counterbalance we have, both in a military sense and an economic sense, is India. The prudent American statesman would do everything within reason to keep India happy with us and exploit their natural anti-sino tendencies in an attempt to keep China in check. Which is why it should come as no surprise to anyone that our administration has recently pissed India off to no end by authorizing the sale of F-16s to Pakistan, India's mortal enemy. Yeah, we'll sell 'em to India too, but they don't care about that. They had air supremacy when neither country had F-16s, so it's a loss of strategic advantage for them, as well as a perceived loss of face.

Way to perpetuate the self-ownage, Bushites.

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Title: Re: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 30, 2005, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: Bathory's SainthoodAt this point, we can assume that the decline of American geopolitical influence is inevitable, and that in a few short years we will be briefly on an equal footing with the Chinese as they pass us for ascendancy to Global Superpower status. The only possible counterbalance we have, both in a military sense and an economic sense, is India. The prudent American statesman would do everything within reason to keep India happy with us and exploit their natural anti-sino tendencies in an attempt to keep China in check. Which is why it should come as no surprise to anyone that our administration has recently pissed India off to no end by authorizing the sale of F-16s to Pakistan, India's mortal enemy. Yeah, we'll sell 'em to India too, but they don't care about that. They had air supremacy when neither country had F-16s, so it's a loss of strategic advantage for them, as well as a perceived loss of face.

Way to perpetuate the self-ownage, Bushites.

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Don't be jealous of America's freedoms.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: LMNO on March 30, 2005, 05:36:42 PM
Accurate assessment, Bath.

Would marching on a road of bones help this situation?
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 30, 2005, 07:24:33 PM
i wonder if he's aware that china was a superpower all throughout the coldwar... and uh still is.

i mean i'm pretty suer they're permanent members of the un security council for a reason, and one of i think five with veto power.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Hitchsnot on March 30, 2005, 07:55:51 PM
We could always go free India, Pakistan, and China as well. If you don't think we can do it, consult Jesus. I am sure the free Iraqi people would agree.... Y'know? We, as free Americans need to stand up and support the efforts of OUR country. Me, as a patriot, back the leaders of this country in every bomb they drop and every innocent they torture. I think it is good to kill people. And if you are a hippy, you will die. Between the Sunnies, Shites(Did I just say Shits?) and the Kurds, I am sure Iraq will find the freedom they so desire. As OUR great President Bush said, "The differences of the Iraqi people will be solved through debate and persuasion instead of force and intimidation." WHAT THE FUCK! Where was this advice when we were bombing the shit out of them and destroy hundreds of thousands of innocent lives? Can anybody tell me?
Ok.... I have rambled on too long. I need a cupcake. Does anyone have a cupcake I can have?
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 30, 2005, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: horab fibslageri wonder if he's aware that china was a superpower all throughout the coldwar... and uh still is.

i mean i'm pretty suer they're permanent members of the un security council for a reason, and one of i think five with veto power.

China has been a power for a long time, but never really achieved superpower status. their ICBM program is young and untested, in comparison to the US and Russia, and they've never really acted on their expansionist ambitions in any meaningful fashion. They are about to achieve their status as a superpower through economic rather than military means, although I would expect the one to follow fairly close behind the other. My guess is that if we don't find a way to stop Chinese ascendancy (and we won't), they'll take Eastern Siberia within 10 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them expand west beyond Tibet and set up a series of "buffer states" between themselves and India a la the USSR after WW2. They will be the dominant power on the Pacific Rim within the next 20 years.

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Hitchsnot on March 30, 2005, 08:37:53 PM
And the prophecy shall be fulfilled!
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Cain on March 30, 2005, 08:41:32 PM
BTW, India hates the US too.  Alot to do with supporting Pakistan, and something about withholding aid during a crop failure or something in the 50s.  I mean, only a few million died...
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on March 30, 2005, 09:54:22 PM
When America's economy is in the toilet, I'll be laughing my ass off as I eat my dogfood and learn French and Chinese.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 30, 2005, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: ScribeBTW, India hates the US too.  Alot to do with supporting Pakistan, and something about withholding aid during a crop failure or something in the 50s.  I mean, only a few million died...

uhh...d'you read the first post?

true though. also, don't forget good old Union Carbide.

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 31, 2005, 04:23:16 AM
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthood
Quote from: horab fibslageri wonder if he's aware that china was a superpower all throughout the coldwar... and uh still is.

i mean i'm pretty suer they're permanent members of the un security council for a reason, and one of i think five with veto power.

China has been a power for a long time, but never really achieved superpower status. their ICBM program is young and untested, in comparison to the US and Russia, and they've never really acted on their expansionist ambitions in any meaningful fashion. They are about to achieve their status as a superpower through economic rather than military means, although I would expect the one to follow fairly close behind the other. My guess is that if we don't find a way to stop Chinese ascendancy (and we won't), they'll take Eastern Siberia within 10 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them expand west beyond Tibet and set up a series of "buffer states" between themselves and India a la the USSR after WW2. They will be the dominant power on the Pacific Rim within the next 20 years.

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the icbm thign is niether young nor untested, jsut never paid any attention to. havin one super power enemy is alot easier toswallow thantwo suepr power enmies, for the public that is, and if tehy didnt' proliferate as greatly as teh ussr or th eusa, well, who can blame them? i'm sure with 1/10th the arsenal of eithe rthe us or russia, they have enough nuclears weapons to kil every man woman and child on teh face fo teh earth a time or two. and the delivery systems to make it a reality if that were to ever occur.

but yeah, they're movign on an econopmic front as opposed to teh aggresive ideo/gun in your face/subterfuge approach both the usa and the ussr took in the cold war. and yeah their plebeiscite(or whatever the word is the peasantry?)has greater economic potential than the entire western world. why? because not only do they have great credit, they have no debt. nevermidn the government holding much of the western world's debt. i think 20 years is a bit over cautious. more liek 5-10, if not sooner.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: /o\ on March 31, 2005, 09:08:51 AM
with oil running out and america's debt and war tendecy the world is up for a few dozens wacks of eris hammer of balance.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on April 01, 2005, 07:47:00 AM
Quote from: Hate Factory
Quote from: horab fibslageri wonder if he's aware that china was a superpower all throughout the coldwar... and uh still is.

i mean i'm pretty suer they're permanent members of the un security council for a reason, and one of i think five with veto power.

China has been a power for a long time, but never really achieved superpower status. their ICBM program is young and untested, in comparison to the US and Russia, and they've never really acted on their expansionist ambitions in any meaningful fashion. They are about to achieve their status as a superpower through economic rather than military means, although I would expect the one to follow fairly close behind the other. My guess is that if we don't find a way to stop Chinese ascendancy (and we won't), they'll take Eastern Siberia within 10 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them expand west beyond Tibet and set up a series of "buffer states" between themselves and India a la the USSR after WW2. They will be the dominant power on the Pacific Rim within the next 20 years.

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They may take longer. China usually annexes slowly. The whole Tibet thing was just for show and a damned good lucky window of opportunity that would have disappeared had India gotten Tibet first.

Some things that may stop China are Taiwan, India, SE Asia, and Japan. Japan still wants ownership and dominance of the pacific. Taiwan practically controls most of the mainland Chinese economy. India would nuke them and dynamite all the Himalayan passes so no irradiated refugees could cross. And SE Asia is "China's Vietnam" as much as it was "America's Vietnam."
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Anonymous on April 14, 2005, 11:43:51 PM
Quote from: LMNOAccurate assessment, Bath.

Would marching on a road of bones help this situation?

If not, he can always plagiarize some more.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Cain on April 14, 2005, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: Se?±or Misterioso
Quote from: ScribeBTW, India hates the US too.  Alot to do with supporting Pakistan, and something about withholding aid during a crop failure or something in the 50s.  I mean, only a few million died...

uhh...d'you read the first post?

true though. also, don't forget good old Union Carbide.

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I was replying to Hitchsnot. At the time I was in an internet cafe and was checking emails.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 15, 2005, 02:10:21 AM
Quote from: Anonymous
Quote from: LMNOAccurate assessment, Bath.

Would marching on a road of bones help this situation?

If not, he can always plagiarize some more.

actually, you cowardly fuckbag, that was original material. If you disagree, feel free to post a link to whatever article or articles you feel I have plagiarized that from.

just have the balls to log in first, you fucking worthless fuck.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: gnimbley on April 15, 2005, 04:55:44 AM
Somebody needs a hug.

You can probably get one in the Open Bar if you ask nicely.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on April 15, 2005, 05:03:51 AM
Quote from: gnimbleySomebody needs a hug.

You can probably get one in the Open Bar if you ask nicely.
Maybe he needs cookies.

:hands a plate of cookies to the gnome:

:hands a plate of cookies to Se?±or Misterioso:

Peanut butter cookies always make me feel better :D
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 15, 2005, 03:13:03 PM
actually, I LOVE peanut butter cookies.

I don't love being accused of plagiarism by some fucktard who doesn't even have the guts to log in before slinging accusations like that.

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 17, 2005, 05:10:05 AM
I LOVE peanut butter cookies.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: B_M_W on April 17, 2005, 05:23:34 AM
Who the fuck are you, Mister Copy-dumbass?

~BMW
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 17, 2005, 09:17:24 AM
:evil:
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: B_M_W on April 17, 2005, 10:21:52 PM
Who is that for AG? Me or HF?

~BMW
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 17, 2005, 10:27:21 PM
HF.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: B_M_W on April 17, 2005, 10:40:52 PM
Well, Hate Factory should stop being a little coward ass and start posting some content. Hed still be a poser, but at least he would be a non coward poser.

~BMW
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 17, 2005, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeWell, Hate Factory should stop being a little coward ass and start posting some content. Hed still be a poser, but at least he would be a non coward poser.

~BMW
illustrative example

that's all

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 17, 2005, 11:07:39 PM
::defenestrates Hate Factory::
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2005, 11:14:38 PM
Quote from: agent compassion::defenestrates Hate Factory::

Fuck that.  As Superme Commander of the European NSRA I think we should waste him and/or any mock all his posts.  Thats just one mans opinion though, even if it is an order.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 17, 2005, 11:34:46 PM
QuoteSuperme Commander

Dude, did you just promote yourself? Superme? LOL
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2005, 11:41:12 PM
Quote from: agent compassion
QuoteSuperme Commander

Dude, did you just promote yourself? Superme? LOL

In Europe I am, apparently.  I got promoted to Sacred Flame, which is practically the same.  Got McTurdStabbyLimingMysterio saying I outrank everyone except him and Nikoli.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: B_M_W on April 17, 2005, 11:45:31 PM
Quoteillustrative example

that's all

Dude, Im one of the youngest members at this forum, and yet I still have seniority over your assshatery. I even have 4-5 rants posted under my name.  So take your mamas milk money, buy some porn and go fuck yourself.

Besides, if people around here start to hate you, it won't be long before you are truly afraid. In which case you will leave, which is what we all want anyway.

Oh, did I mention go fuck yourself?


~BMW
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 18, 2005, 04:36:27 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quoteillustrative example

that's all

Dude, Im one of the youngest members at this forum, and yet I still have seniority over your assshatery. I even have 4-5 rants posted under my name.  So take your mamas milk money, buy some porn and go fuck yourself.

Besides, if people around here start to hate you, it won't be long before you are truly afraid. In which case you will leave, which is what we all want anyway.

Oh, did I mention go fuck yourself?


~BMW
I live beyond the veil, I have no fear.  I have changed my name as requested, I meant no harm.  There are those here who want me here.  They are silent, in the shadows, you can not see them, but they are there.  In the mists, beyond your world, and in this one as well.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: The Doctor on April 18, 2005, 04:39:02 AM
Those are the Gelth, aini dear, and they're not to be trusted!

::turns up the gas::
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 18, 2005, 04:40:10 AM
lurkers don't count.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 18, 2005, 05:20:17 AM
Quote from: love jesus or dielurkers don't count.
I am not speaking of lurkers.  There are many here who speak, however, they speak not of that which they do not want all to know.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 18, 2005, 05:55:42 AM
Ya know when you talk like that you make me wonder if you're not the pest aini after all, just randomly arguing with yourself.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Lurker on April 18, 2005, 06:05:32 AM
Quote from: aini
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quoteillustrative example

that's all

Dude, Im one of the youngest members at this forum, and yet I still have seniority over your assshatery. I even have 4-5 rants posted under my name.  So take your mamas milk money, buy some porn and go fuck yourself.

Besides, if people around here start to hate you, it won't be long before you are truly afraid. In which case you will leave, which is what we all want anyway.

Oh, did I mention go fuck yourself?


~BMW
I live beyond the veil, I have no fear.  I have changed my name as requested, I meant no harm.  There are those here who want me here.  They are silent, in the shadows, you can not see them, but they are there.  In the mists, beyond your world, and in this one as well.

Speaking as a lurker, we do not support you.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Horab Fibslager on April 18, 2005, 06:06:08 AM
i've just been informed by my secretary at aligator control the detaisl of this op.

however nsra members are nto cleared for this info.  :P
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Cain on April 18, 2005, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: agent compassionYa know when you talk like that you make me wonder if you're not the pest aini after all, just randomly arguing with yourself.

That would be impressive.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 18, 2005, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: love jesus or diei've just been informed by my secretary at aligator control the detaisl of this op.

however nsra members are nto cleared for this info.  :P
Thank you.  They did not listen.  They are not listening still, perhaps they never will.  Reminded me of this song.  When I looked it up, I found it was named Vincent.  

(http://www.vangoghgallery.com/images/titles/mclean.gif) (http://www.vangoghgallery.com/painting/p_0612.htm)

Starry, starry night.
Paint your palette blue and grey,
Look out on a summer's day,
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul.
Shadows on the hills,
Sketch the trees and the daffodils,
Catch the breeze and the winter chills,
In colors on the snowy linen land.

Now I understand what you tried to say to me,
How you suffered for your sanity,
How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they did not know how.
Perhaps they'll listen now.

Starry, starry night.
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze,
Swirling clouds in violet haze,
Reflect in Vincent's eyes of China blue.
Colors changing hue, morning field of amber grain,
Weathered faces lined in pain,
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand.

Now I understand what you tried to say to me,
How you suffered for your sanity,
How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they did not know how.
Perhaps they'll listen now.

For they could not love you,
But still your love was true.
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night,
You took your life, as lovers often do.
But I could have told you, Vincent,
This world was never meant for one
As beautiful as you.

Starry, starry night.
Portraits hung in empty halls,
Frameless head on nameless walls,
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget.
Like the strangers that you've met,
The ragged men in the ragged clothes,
The silver thorn of bloody rose,
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow.

Now I think I know what you tried to say to me,
How you suffered for your sanity,
How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they're not listening still.
Perhaps they never will.


http://www.vangoghgallery.com/misc/mclean.htm
(http://www.crispinmusic.org/Starrynight.jpg)
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: LMNO on April 19, 2005, 08:24:13 PM
That was Don McLean.







Hippie.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 19, 2005, 08:31:45 PM
[namedropping]

he lives down the street from me.

[/namedropping]
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: agent compassion on April 19, 2005, 08:55:01 PM
::looks at Turd's namedroppings::

You clean those up right now, mister.

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on April 20, 2005, 07:49:11 PM
Quote from: Beefy McManstick[namedropping]

he lives down the street from me.

[/namedropping]

What?  He has to be about 300 years old.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Kallisti on April 20, 2005, 07:55:47 PM
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Beefy McManstick[namedropping]

he lives down the street from me.

[/namedropping]

What?  He has to be about 300 years old.
I believe he was referring to Don MacLean, not Vincent Van Gogh.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on April 20, 2005, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: aini
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Beefy McManstick[namedropping]

he lives down the street from me.

[/namedropping]

What?  He has to be about 300 years old.
I believe he was referring to Don MacLean, not Vincent Van Gogh.

So was I. :lol:
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 20, 2005, 07:59:20 PM
uh, no, he's probably in his late 60's or early 70's, and he's in good shape for an old man. Today was the first really hot day of the year, it hit 75 degrees and was wicked muggy, and he came in to get some gas for his sick-ass summer ride. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I think it's a Morgan.

the first time I ever met him I was working at the store that used to occupy the building that my store now occupies, and I was the gas jockey. He came in for a fill-up, I pumped his gas, and he paid with a check. I looked at the check and asked him if anyone ever thought he was the Don McLean. Thankfully, he thought that was pretty goddamned funny.

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Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on April 20, 2005, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: Se?±or Misteriosouh, no, he's probably in his late 60's or early 70's, and he's in good shape for an old man. Today was the first really hot day of the year, it hit 75 degrees and was wicked muggy, and he came in to get some gas for his sick-ass summer ride. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I think it's a Morgan.

the first time I ever met him I was working at the store that used to occupy the building that my store now occupies, and I was the gas jockey. He came in for a fill-up, I pumped his gas, and he paid with a check. I looked at the check and asked him if anyone ever thought he was the Don McLean. Thankfully, he thought that was pretty goddamned funny.

8)
I know we made up and everything, but WTF?  Are you trying to beat the pest's record for name changes in one day?  I appreciate that none of them were remotely like anyone else's, except maybe some of your previous names, but still.  Even I am getting confused :shock:
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: LMNO on April 20, 2005, 08:47:20 PM
Hey, it worked.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on April 20, 2005, 08:48:05 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Se?±or Misteriosouh, no, he's probably in his late 60's or early 70's, and he's in good shape for an old man. Today was the first really hot day of the year, it hit 75 degrees and was wicked muggy, and he came in to get some gas for his sick-ass summer ride. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I think it's a Morgan.

the first time I ever met him I was working at the store that used to occupy the building that my store now occupies, and I was the gas jockey. He came in for a fill-up, I pumped his gas, and he paid with a check. I looked at the check and asked him if anyone ever thought he was the Don McLean. Thankfully, he thought that was pretty goddamned funny.

8)
I know we made up and everything, but WTF?  Are you trying to beat the pest's record for name changes in one day?  I appreciate that none of them were remotely like anyone else's, except maybe some of your previous names, but still.  Even I am getting confused :shock:

I don't get the whole name change thing.

I thought that's what the sig thingie was for.
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on April 20, 2005, 09:54:16 PM
It just adds confusion, which is why I wholeheartedly support all name changesexcept aini's
Title: Welcome to the post-American century
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 20, 2005, 10:03:03 PM
I just do what I want and refuse to give much of a rat-fuck about what anyone else thinks about it.