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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Ben on May 02, 2005, 05:18:30 AM

Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ben on May 02, 2005, 05:18:30 AM
We have been deposed, crackwhores and gentlemen.  The gig is up.  We are getting "high".  We are "stoned".  We are "fried" like eggs and bacon.  And yet, the MAINSTREAM, in their war against uniquity, are blasting the potentially dangerous yet potently enlightening substance "drugs" into grayfaced walls; jail; and prison.  What are we to do?  I propose that the most sane thing to do would be a war against sobriety.  Obviously, any living thing that does not depend on a chemical substance for happin3ss must be destroyed.  War the heathens who indulge in this vile, sickening state of sobriety!  Crush their twelve steps under the true and beautiful visions of sane dementias.  Smash their police and politicians into truly polite figments of good-vibe hallucinations.  We, the hippie elite crack-whore drug lord warriors shall emerge victorious and stoned off our asswipes!  Kiss my freedom!
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 02, 2005, 07:29:08 AM
this wrong.

they want you high all the time. on the prescribed mind altering chmeicals which profit the company.

ahppiness is pastel and drab and comes in a green and yellow pill that if you stop taking will make you kill your wife and children.

the consequences are ominous.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ben on May 02, 2005, 07:33:26 AM
I didn't mean the legal drugs that they forcef3ed down your throat!  I'm trying to be rebellious here, Fibslager!
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 02, 2005, 07:40:08 AM
replace one vice with another.

addiction is teh new paradigm.

coffee rom-coms and consuem consume consume.  fatigued? agitated? questioning authority? you may be suffering from post media induced axniety disorder. our operators are standing by to prescribe you the necerssary drugs. safe and effective. do not use in conjunction with illegal drugs, obscene readign material or foreign food.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ben on May 02, 2005, 08:01:50 AM
Addiction is not a new paradigm.  The ol' "hooked" cliche has been around since Reagan.  Why not cure it by ramming your head into a concrete wall?  Completely legal!  Proven effective!
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 02, 2005, 08:07:30 AM
no that's not legal.

but it's a sure fire way to get prescribed.

youre' right it's not new. redesigned and improved for uber effectivity.


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Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ben on May 02, 2005, 08:09:54 AM
Love your nemeys.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Horab Fibslager on May 02, 2005, 08:16:06 AM
love them all. especially if it's on CNN. or fox.


there is no monoply when the image is triplicated.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: gnimbley on May 02, 2005, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: BencalypseI didn't mean the legal drugs that they forcef3ed down your throat!  I'm trying to be rebellious here, Fibslager!

The only difference between the legal and illegal drugs is that
the illegal drugs cost more and the risk/benefit ratio is steeper.
Illegal drugs still come from the man.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 02, 2005, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: gnimbley
Quote from: BencalypseI didn't mean the legal drugs that they forcef3ed down your throat!  I'm trying to be rebellious here, Fibslager!

The only difference between the legal and illegal drugs is that
the illegal drugs cost more and the risk/benefit ratio is steeper.
Illegal drugs still come from the man.
I dunno, man.  The stuff I take for my migraines, it is $5 a pill, with insurance, and one of the side effects is death and it doesn't get me high, it is just a vasoconstrictor, one of the triptans.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 02, 2005, 09:50:59 PM
yeah, ask an AIDS patient which is more expensive: the illegal pot he smokes to maintain his appetite, or the AZT he takes to maintain his immune system.

8)
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: agent compassion on May 02, 2005, 09:52:35 PM
It's all relative you know. But regardless of the price per pound, the pot is infinitely less expensive when you factor in side effects....ok, so you spend more on groceries, but still....

...the thing with prescription drugs is that they have side effects so bad that you have to take MORE pills to get rid of the side effects....

:roll:
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Cain on May 02, 2005, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: agent compassion...the thing with prescription drugs is that they have side effects so bad that you have to take MORE pills to get rid of the side effects....

:roll:

I thought that was the point of modern medicine?
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 02, 2005, 09:55:01 PM
Quote from: agent compassionIt's all relative you know. But regardless of the price per pound, the pot is infinitely less expensive when you factor in side effects....ok, so you spend more on groceries, but still....

...the thing with prescription drugs is that they have side effects so bad that you have to take MORE pills to get rid of the side effects....

:roll:
Not to that point, thank god, or whoever, and most of this crap, I'll be done with it in a few more years.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: gnimbley on May 02, 2005, 11:24:41 PM
You are only calculating the cash costs you know.
Title: Re: The War against Sobriety
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 02, 2005, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: BencalypseWe have been deposed, crackwhores and gentlemen.  The gig is up.  We are getting "high".  We are "stoned".  We are "fried" like eggs and bacon.  And yet, the MAINSTREAM, in their war against uniquity, are blasting the potentially dangerous yet potently enlightening substance "drugs" into grayfaced walls; jail; and prison.  What are we to do?  I propose that the most sane thing to do would be a war against sobriety.  Obviously, any living thing that does not depend on a chemical substance for happin3ss must be destroyed.  War the heathens who indulge in this vile, sickening state of sobriety!  Crush their twelve steps under the true and beautiful visions of sane dementias.  Smash their police and politicians into truly polite figments of good-vibe hallucinations.  We, the hippie elite crack-whore drug lord warriors shall emerge victorious and stoned off our asswipes!  Kiss my freedom!

Twelve-steppers should be beaten with sticks.

They have made the really dangerous drugs (coke, meth, etc) so illegal that they're the only kind you can easily get.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: agent compassion on May 03, 2005, 12:03:01 AM
QuoteYou are only calculating the cash costs you know.

Not really. The lost health due to adverse drug reactions and side effects is a cost in and of itself.
Title: Re: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 03, 2005, 02:06:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: BencalypseWe have been deposed, crackwhores and gentlemen.  The gig is up.  We are getting "high".  We are "stoned".  We are "fried" like eggs and bacon.  And yet, the MAINSTREAM, in their war against uniquity, are blasting the potentially dangerous yet potently enlightening substance "drugs" into grayfaced walls; jail; and prison.  What are we to do?  I propose that the most sane thing to do would be a war against sobriety.  Obviously, any living thing that does not depend on a chemical substance for happin3ss must be destroyed.  War the heathens who indulge in this vile, sickening state of sobriety!  Crush their twelve steps under the true and beautiful visions of sane dementias.  Smash their police and politicians into truly polite figments of good-vibe hallucinations.  We, the hippie elite crack-whore drug lord warriors shall emerge victorious and stoned off our asswipes!  Kiss my freedom!

Twelve-steppers should be beaten with sticks.

They have made the really dangerous drugs (coke, meth, etc) so illegal that they're the only kind you can easily get.


Hell, I don't seem motivated enough to beat them. Alcohol is still legal...unless of course you like to brew your own and then try to sell it to the next guy.
Title: Re: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 03, 2005, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: BencalypseWe have been deposed, crackwhores and gentlemen.  The gig is up.  We are getting "high".  We are "stoned".  We are "fried" like eggs and bacon.  And yet, the MAINSTREAM, in their war against uniquity, are blasting the potentially dangerous yet potently enlightening substance "drugs" into grayfaced walls; jail; and prison.  What are we to do?  I propose that the most sane thing to do would be a war against sobriety.  Obviously, any living thing that does not depend on a chemical substance for happin3ss must be destroyed.  War the heathens who indulge in this vile, sickening state of sobriety!  Crush their twelve steps under the true and beautiful visions of sane dementias.  Smash their police and politicians into truly polite figments of good-vibe hallucinations.  We, the hippie elite crack-whore drug lord warriors shall emerge victorious and stoned off our asswipes!  Kiss my freedom!

Twelve-steppers should be beaten with sticks.

They have made the really dangerous drugs (coke, meth, etc) so illegal that they're the only kind you can easily get.


Hell, I don't seem motivated enough to beat them. Alcohol is still legal...unless of course you like to brew your own and then try to sell it to the next guy.

D/N/T the brewing/distilling lobby.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 03, 2005, 03:29:11 PM
You think you need to tell me that, sonny?


<stabs the Ghost, fifteen times thirty>
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 03, 2005, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCYou think you need to tell me that, sonny?


<stabs the Ghost, fifteen times thirty>

Ouch.  Good thing I'm wearing overalls.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 03, 2005, 03:44:10 PM
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCYou think you need to tell me that, sonny?


<stabs the Ghost, fifteen times thirty>

Ouch.  Good thing I'm wearing overalls.


They'll just keep the blood in?
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 03, 2005, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCYou think you need to tell me that, sonny?


<stabs the Ghost, fifteen times thirty>

Ouch.  Good thing I'm wearing overalls.


They'll just keep the blood in?

No, but at least I got your knife all dirty.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 03, 2005, 03:57:18 PM
Assuming I washed it in the first place.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 03, 2005, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCAssuming I washed it in the first place.

If you didn't, you should now.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on May 04, 2005, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCAssuming I washed it in the first place.

If you didn't, you should now.

Nope. It just makes the wound more painfully infected, should the victim live.
Title: Re: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 04, 2005, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Twelve-steppers should be beaten with sticks.

They have made the really dangerous drugs (coke, meth, etc) so illegal that they're the only kind you can easily get.
Some of them should be beaten with sticks.  Some, but not all.  Keep in mind, that if you are talking about the people from SAA, they are probably going to like it and ask you to hit them harder :twisted:

And I blame Ronny Raygun and the war on drugs.  In the 70's and early 80's there was a lot of pot.  I mean a lot.  There was never a time when you couldn't get it.  Then, there was the big crackdown, which mostly hit marijuana coming into the country, because of the bulk.  Which meant there was still plenty of cocaine.  It was about this time that the freebasers started cooking up bigger batches, or else they perfected the system, and crack became popular.  Because of the war on drugs, people thought marijuana was just as bad as coke, so the kids smoke crack because if they had ever smoked pot they knew it wasn't as bad as alcohol.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2005, 03:31:21 PM
if you want to know who started the trend towards freebase and crack rather than powder, look no further than your own government.

there is ample evidence to support the theory that the CIA used the LA street gangs (and later their counterparts in Chicago and NYC) to distribute the new more addictive form of the drug and supplied them with guns in return for the drug money that was then used to finance the Central American operations against the Sandinistas.

it's too bad that Somoza was such a dipshit pussy and the whole effort was for nothing.

8)
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 04, 2005, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: T'ai Kungif you want to know who started the trend towards freebase and crack rather than powder, look no further than your own government.

there is ample evidence to support the theory that the CIA used the LA street gangs (and later their counterparts in Chicago and NYC) to distribute the new more addictive form of the drug and supplied them with guns in return for the drug money that was then used to finance the Central American operations against the Sandinistas.

it's too bad that Somoza was such a dipshit pussy and the whole effort was for nothing.

8)

Ample evidence, my ass.  They ADMITTED it, in the mid-nineties.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Cain on May 04, 2005, 04:51:47 PM
Hey, if you wanna finance a black op without having everyone ask what you need the cash for, and you "just happen" to be on good terms with central American criminal groups, drugs are the way to go.

Oh, and the CIA website, last time I checked, say they dont have anything to do with drug smuggling, or words to that effect.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2005, 06:36:07 PM
yeah, if I remember correctly, THEY never officially admitted to anything of the sort....any admissions to that effect came from disgruntled former operatives, which usually is an indication of a lack of credibility...

however, those of us who run (or used to run) in certain circles have heard the story from the other side, and it would appear that disgruntled former agents or not, it's all true.

8)
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Ghost In The Machine on May 04, 2005, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: T'ai Kungyeah, if I remember correctly, THEY never officially admitted to anything of the sort....any admissions to that effect came from disgruntled former operatives, which usually is an indication of a lack of credibility...

however, those of us who run (or used to run) in certain circles have heard the story from the other side, and it would appear that disgruntled former agents or not, it's all true.

8)

LA Times, in 1997, I believe.  They admitted to it, but it in NO way resembled an apology.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on May 04, 2005, 06:42:54 PM
Quote from: T'ai Kungyeah, if I remember correctly, THEY never officially admitted to anything of the sort....any admissions to that effect came from disgruntled former operatives, which usually is an indication of a lack of credibility...

however, those of us who run (or used to run) in certain circles have heard the story from the other side, and it would appear that disgruntled former agents or not, it's all true.

8)
THEY never admit anything.

The agents are discredited because they speak out.

THEY denied the Iran Contra connection for a long time too.  Ask Ollie North.
Title: The War against Sobriety
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2005, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Ghost In The Machine
Quote from: T'ai Kungyeah, if I remember correctly, THEY never officially admitted to anything of the sort....any admissions to that effect came from disgruntled former operatives, which usually is an indication of a lack of credibility...

however, those of us who run (or used to run) in certain circles have heard the story from the other side, and it would appear that disgruntled former agents or not, it's all true.

8)

LA Times, in 1997, I believe.  They admitted to it, but it in NO way resembled an apology.

thanks...I'll check out their archives and if I can find it, I'll post a link to the story...I didn't move to LA until '99 so I wouldn't have seen it when it came out.

8)