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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Hoshiko on July 18, 2005, 06:10:54 PM

Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Hoshiko on July 18, 2005, 06:10:54 PM
I wonder who would win in a fight...

Each person nominates 2 poems (good or otherwise) as their picks. When we have 20 or so we'll mix 'em up, draw them out of a hat, post them in pairs and let them fight it out.

I have no idea if this will work or not, but it sounds fun and let's face it, some poems are just beggin to get the **** kicked out of them.

I'm going to nominate Howl - Allen Ginsberg (http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html#howl) and Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came - R. Browning (http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/poems/rol.htm)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: LMNO on July 18, 2005, 06:22:29 PM
OK, I'm in...

The Waste Land by TS Eliot (http://eliotswasteland.tripod.com/) and Solomon's Song of Songs (http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?book_id=26&chapter=1&version=31).
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: napoleone on July 18, 2005, 07:43:37 PM
Jonathan Bing By Betrice Curtis Brown (http://www.cswnet.com/~erin/child.htm#jbing) (Yes, THE Betrice) and My Guardian Angel By Chealsea M (http://www.stwcp.com/Poets/chelseam.htm)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 18, 2005, 08:06:56 PM
 In a Station of the Metro (http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/ezrapound/3817) by Ezra Pound and  Pan (http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Oscar_Wilde/oscar_wilde_charmides_pan_double_villanelle.htm) by Oscar Wilde
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 18, 2005, 08:10:45 PM
i was going to submit Ballad of the Skeletons by ginsberg, but you already
gave a ginsberg..

then it occured to me that ginsberg is crazy enough to have two of his poems
fight eachother..

then i couldn't find it.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: LMNO on July 18, 2005, 08:14:26 PM
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjai was going to submit Ballad of the Skeletons by ginsberg, but you already
gave a ginsberg..

then it occured to me that ginsberg is crazy enough to have two of his poems
fight eachother..

then i couldn't find it.

I was gonna post Ginsburg's Kaddish to back you up, but I can't find an online text of it.

Gawd, I had to analyze that in highschool.  It was rough.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 19, 2005, 02:59:42 AM
Ozymandias (http://www.savagenet.com/oz/Oz/) - Percy Shelley

Song To Be Sung by the Father of Infant Female Children (http://www.westegg.com/nash/infant-female.html) - Ogden Nash
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on July 19, 2005, 03:08:02 AM
 Darkness (http://readytogoebooks.com/Lb-Drk85.htm) -Lord Byron
Title: Re: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 19, 2005, 03:38:11 AM
Quote from: HoshikoHowl - Allen Ginsberg (http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html#howl)

Longest first sentance I've ever read. Kinda reminds me of the book I'm reading now. Ever read anything by Samuel Delany?
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Zurtok Khan on July 19, 2005, 04:54:06 AM
Hrrm...

The Boys I mean are not refined - E.E. Cummings http://users.crocker.com/~lwm/theboys.html

and

Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15831
Title: Re: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Zurtok Khan on July 19, 2005, 04:54:42 AM
Quote from: Altoid Addict
Quote from: HoshikoHowl - Allen Ginsberg (http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html#howl)

Longest first sentance I've ever read. Kinda reminds me of the book I'm reading now. Ever read anything by Samuel Delany?

There are sentances in Howl?
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 06:22:36 AM
Edgar Alan Poe, The Raven

Shakespeare, one of his sonnets, I forget the name, something about, my lover's lips are not red like roses are red.  I'll find it later.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 19, 2005, 06:27:27 AM
"The Road Not Taken" vs "Jabberwocky"

8)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 19, 2005, 06:44:29 AM
jabberwocky so pwns the road not taken
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Post by: the other anonymous on July 19, 2005, 09:01:02 AM
The Entire Haiku Thread versus Beowulf (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/981)
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Post by: the other anonymous on July 19, 2005, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShakespeare, one of his sonnets, I forget the name, something about, my lover's lips are not red like roses are red.  I'll find it later.

Perhaps this?

CXXX (http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/wssnt10.txt)

My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red, than her lips red:
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
I have seen roses damask'd, red and white,
But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
And in some perfumes is there more delight
Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound:
I grant I never saw a goddess go,--
My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
 And yet by heaven, I think my love as rare,
 As any she belied with false compare.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 19, 2005, 03:21:21 PM
Quote from: N'yo B?©, Terrorist Zenjajabberwocky so pwns the road not taken

I dunno about that. "the Road not taken" should have special meaning for folks like us.

not that Jabberwocky doesn't rock.

8)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 19, 2005, 03:49:53 PM
i dunno bout all that

specialism is a personal thing. if something transcends personal, then
it's a vehicle for communication, comradery, fellowship...there is this that
is in common.

or maybe it's just that i'm rather contrary and selfish?

oi still think jabberwocky would pwns

now what i want to know (once again, the questions I wanted to be asked
were in fact NOT asked)..

i wanna know, who would win: Jabberwocky? or the Vermeous Bandersnatch?

Vermeous Bandersnatch sounds pretty tuff.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: gnimbley on July 19, 2005, 04:16:15 PM
I was going to put up The Mahabharata (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/maha/) because it is probably the
world's longest poem (heh heh; can't judge it until you've read the
whole thing) but the only links I could find to English translations
on the web (see above) were not actually in poetic form.

So instead I will offer

The Rubiyat (http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/K/KhayyamOmar/51MovingFing.htm)

and

Emily (http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Emily-Dickinson/emily-dickinson-poems-time-and-eternity-23.htm)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 08:09:54 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShakespeare, one of his sonnets, I forget the name, something about, my lover's lips are not red like roses are red.  I'll find it later.

Perhaps this?

CXXX (http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/wssnt10.txt)

My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun;
Coral is far more red, than her lips red:
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
I have seen roses damask'd, red and white,
But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
And in some perfumes is there more delight
Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound:
I grant I never saw a goddess go,--
My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
 And yet by heaven, I think my love as rare,
 As any she belied with false compare.

Thanks, that cracks me up every time :wink:
Title: Re: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 20, 2005, 09:33:31 PM
Quote from: Zurtok Khan
Quote from: Altoid Addict
Quote from: HoshikoHowl - Allen Ginsberg (http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html#howl)

Longest first sentance I've ever read. Kinda reminds me of the book I'm reading now. Ever read anything by Samuel Delany?

There are sentances in Howl?

I was kinda taking the whole first part as a sentance. Maybe I shouldn't, but it almost looks like one.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: LMNO on July 21, 2005, 01:53:11 PM
"I saw the best minds of my generation... yawn... destroyed by madness... YAWN...

::skips a bit::

...gay sex...


::skips a bit::

...good to eat a thousand
years."

ZZZZZZ....
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 25, 2005, 08:13:12 PM
Alright, first up, My Guardian Angel By Chealsea M (http://www.stwcp.com/Poets/chelseam.htm) Vs. Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came - R. Browning (http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/poems/rol.htm)

Charges of bias, nepotism, or necromancy against the Holy Chooser (yours Truely) can be brought to the Proper Authorities, who will then shoot you.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: LMNO on July 25, 2005, 08:23:20 PM
Rowland's already been picked.

Just sayin.
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Post by: DJRubberducky on July 25, 2005, 10:33:38 PM
Enheduanna - Hymn to Inanna (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~davida/cc303/inannahymn.html) vs. the Orphic Hymn to Persephone (http://www.sibyllinewicca.org/sacred_texts/oh_persephone.htm)
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 26, 2005, 07:32:40 AM
Quote from: LMNORowland's already been picked.

Just sayin.

I was saying I picked those randomly from what we had, to be the first battle, since we had 20 already. Sorry I wasn't clear.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: gnimbley on July 26, 2005, 04:29:47 PM
Yeah, so who won already?
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 26, 2005, 07:52:32 PM
yo momma!


ooooohh!
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Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 26, 2005, 09:45:24 PM
I'd say Browning wins by a hair, but I'm not the only judge, right?
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Hoshiko on September 01, 2005, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: Altoid AddictAlright, first up, My Guardian Angel By Chealsea M (http://www.stwcp.com/Poets/chelseam.htm) Vs. Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came - R. Browning (http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/poems/rol.htm)

Ok, you heard the man, first vote! Who wins this round?

I say Childe Roland obviously PWNS, but I am also so completely, totally biased.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Hoshiko on September 01, 2005, 01:51:06 PM
Nominations are now over. Because we were one short I added in Suess's Oh the Places You'll go.

This is the new lineup. In the interest of saving time, feel free to vote on all pairings at once. We'll keep this voting phase open for a week or so, and then move on to round 2.

1-My Guardian Angel By Chealsea M (http://www.stwcp.com/Poets/chelseam.htm) VS. Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came - R. Browning (http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/poems/rol.htm)

2-Howl - Allen Ginsberg (http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html#howl) VS. Song To Be Sung by the Father of Infant Female Children (http://www.westegg.com/nash/infant-female.html) - Ogden Nash

3-Jabberwocky (http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/jabber/jabberwocky.html) VS. the Orphic Hymn to Persephone (http://www.sibyllinewicca.org/sacred_texts/oh_persephone.htm)

4- The Waste Land by TS Eliot (http://eliotswasteland.tripod.com/)  VS. Emily (http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Emily-Dickinson/emily-dickinson-poems-time-and-eternity-23.htm)

5- Ozymandias (http://www.savagenet.com/oz/Oz/) - Percy Shelley VS.  Darkness (http://readytogoebooks.com/Lb-Drk85.htm) -Lord Byron

6- Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge (http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15831) VS. Oh The Places You'll Go - Suess (http://members.tripod.com/~TechBabe/places.html)

7- Solomon's Song of Songs (http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?book_id=26&chapter=1&version=31) VS. Edgar Alan Poe, The Raven (http://www.comnet.ca/~forrest/raven.html)

8- Enheduanna - Hymn to Inanna (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~davida/cc303/inannahymn.html) VS. Beowulf (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/981)

9- Pan (http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Oscar_Wilde/oscar_wilde_charmides_pan_double_villanelle.htm) by Oscar Wilde VS. The Entire Haiku Thread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=39)

10- Shakespeare's Sonnet CXXX (http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext97/wssnt10.txt) VS. The Rubiyat (http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/K/KhayyamOmar/51MovingFing.htm)

11- The Boys I mean are not refined - E.E. Cummings (http://users.crocker.com/~lwm/theboys.html) VS. The Road Not Taken (http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_2/frost_road.html)

12- Jonathan Bing By Betrice Curtis Brown (http://www.cswnet.com/~erin/child.htm#jbing) VS.  In a Station of the Metro (http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/ezrapound/3817) by Ezra Pound
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on September 02, 2005, 09:29:45 PM
Damn, I can't decide for 2. Ozymandias wins 5 though.

By the way, welcome back Hoshi. Want to start up that story again?
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on September 02, 2005, 11:32:57 PM
YOU ASKED FOR IT AND HERE IT IS FOLKS! ROUND ONE OF THE POEM-OFF DEATH MATCH HAS BEGUN! OF THE 12 CONTESTANTS 11 OF THEM WILL SUFFER HORRIFIC FATES SO GRISLY YOUR BRAIN WOULD MARRY COURTNEY LOVE, OVERDOSE ON HERION, AND BLOW ITSELF OUT OF YOUR HEAD IF YOU EVEN TRIED TO IMAGINE THEIR FATES! BUT ONE POEM WILL MAKE IT TO THE PINNACLE OF POEM KILLING! WHO WILL IT BE!? WHO WILL SURVIVE! STAY TUNED FOR ANOTHER EXCITING AND ULTRA-VIOLENT ROUND OF...

POEM-OFF DEATHMATCH!
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on September 05, 2005, 12:13:59 AM
for #11, I say ee cummings pwns
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on September 05, 2005, 06:47:06 AM
Kublha Khan wins #6
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: LMNO on September 06, 2005, 05:38:35 PM
#4 - Wasteland kicks Emily's ass.
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on September 06, 2005, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO#4 - Wasteland kicks Emily's ass.

definately
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on September 07, 2005, 05:53:29 AM
#1 - My Guardian Angel
#2 - Howl
#3 - Jabberwocky
#4 - The Waste Land
#5 - Darkness
#6 - Kublha Khan (one of the greatest poems EVAR)
#7 - The Raven
#8 - Beowulf (because Beowulf is awesome)
#9 - Haiku Thread
#10 - Shakespeare
#11 - The boys I mean are not refined
#12 - In a Station of the Metro
Title: Poem-off- Deathmatch!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 07, 2005, 05:56:13 AM
#5 is the best choice, of many good ones.

But no Kipling?