Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2005, 03:17:53 AM

Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2005, 03:17:53 AM
Blarg!
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: the other anonymous on September 21, 2005, 07:13:26 AM
Look around for a pile of dead bodies. The man walking away with his head held high is a Real Discordian.

"Freedom is the bodies of your enemies at your feet." - Joseph T. Raschack
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Zurtok Khan on September 21, 2005, 07:55:07 AM
What's this?

I hear the sound of one hand clapping.

Unfortunately, it's clapping for Bob Dole, not TGRR  :evil:

For whom the hand claps?  It claps for Dole!

*claps for Roger*

Well, someone had to!
Title: Re: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: the other anonymous on September 21, 2005, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Rogerand - if the slightest chance is offered - kill The Good Reverend Roger in cold blood.

What if we marry TGRR in cold blood?

Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerWhat ISN'T Discordianism:  Jabbering nonsense for its own sake

Oh. I guess the wedding's off...

*sob*
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: LMNO on September 21, 2005, 03:14:12 PM
Quote from: TGRRnumerology for its own sake (we have Enron accountants for that),



Awesome.

It seems to me that the keywords in this rant are "for its own sake".  The WHY does, indeed make a difference.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 21, 2005, 06:29:45 PM
How did you find out about what the POEE used to do with Nixon's corpse?

I have been looking to back that rumor up with hard evidence for years.

Good job.

I don't know who can or would kill you though.

I would add that "Discordians don't drink to escape problems, they drink to create problems" but that may provoke outrage from the lighter elements. And I really don't want to smell anymore patchouli today.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on September 21, 2005, 06:37:54 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCHow did you find out about what the POEE used to do with Nixon's corpse?

I have been looking to back that rumor up with hard evidence for years.

Good job.

I don't know who can or would kill you though.

I would add that "Discordians don't drink to escape problems, they drink to create problems" but that may provoke outrage from the lighter elements. And I really don't want to smell anymore patchouli today.
I think I have created more problems since I stopped drinking, but I am just ass backwards that way :twisted:

ps I hate patchouli :evil:
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 21, 2005, 06:49:54 PM
Once you start drinking, there is no way out....except to join 12step groups where they are afeared of last names.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Rev. St. Syn, KSC (Ret.) on September 21, 2005, 06:56:09 PM
I am using Nixon's corpse as a throw in my library.

Rog, fantastic stuff. And yoinked.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on September 21, 2005, 09:47:42 PM
Discordianism is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Zurtok Khan on September 21, 2005, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellDiscordianism is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be

This is the wrong motorcycle.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 21, 2005, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellDiscordianism is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be

this is not even a motorcycle.

this is a rollerblade, and it is most definitely the wrong one.

8)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Cain on September 21, 2005, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: His Holiness the Zurtok
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellDiscordianism is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be

This is the wrong motorcycle.

That is however a correct one. However Chaplin, it doesnt mean  Discorianism isn't fluid, it doesn't change and isn't open to massive interpretation.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on September 21, 2005, 10:00:47 PM
The Principia Discordia says that all claims to truth are right, wrong, meaningless, right and wrong, right and meaningless, wrong and meaningless, and right and wrong and meaningless. That sounds like "Discordian is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be" to me.

If you don't buy into the Principia Discordia, but still call yourself a Discordian, that seems even more like it.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 21, 2005, 10:02:45 PM
by that logic, Dick Cheney, Hitler, Rupert Murdoch, and Martha Stewart could all be discordians.

despite the fact that, you know, they live to impose order on the world.

8)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Cain on September 21, 2005, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustleby that logic, Dick Cheney, Hitler, Rupert Murdoch, and Martha Stewart could all be discordians.

despite the fact that, you know, they live to impose order on the world.

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beat me to it.  But then again, I've already said my piece on the subject a while ago.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell on September 22, 2005, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustleby that logic, Dick Cheney, Hitler, Rupert Murdoch, and Martha Stewart could all be discordians.

despite the fact that, you know, they live to impose order on the world.

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They're not Discordians because I doubt any of them ever heard the word "Discordian" and if they did, they wouldn't call themselves Discordian.

A Discordian is anyone who calls themselves a Discordian, in my opinion. You can be a Discordian and cool, and you can be a Discordian and a faggot. It doesn't mean you're a fake Discordian, it just means you're a faggot. (Nothing is "real")

Unless you're using the term "Discordian" to mean "enlightened" or "Discordian saint". That's a different story. Most of us probably wouldn't make it onto the list, because we're all faggots.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 22, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
sorry, calling yourself a discordian does not make you a discordian any more than calling yourself a midget hooker makes you a midget hooker.

8)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2005, 01:06:16 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellDiscordianism is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be

"Martha Stewart Discordianism"? :lol:

If that's true, Fonz, then Discordianism is utterly worthless.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2005, 01:07:16 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_FonzarellThe Principia Discordia says that all claims to truth are right, wrong, meaningless, right and wrong, right and meaningless, wrong and meaningless, and right and wrong and meaningless. That sounds like "Discordian is whatever the fuckhell you want it to be" to me.

If you don't buy into the Principia Discordia, but still call yourself a Discordian, that seems even more like it.

The PD is utter rot.  The only thing it gave Discordianism is the name.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2005, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell
They're not Discordians because I doubt any of them ever heard the word "Discordian" and if they did, they wouldn't call themselves Discordian.


You just kinda blew right past the middle of the piece, didn't you?
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: unlike_someone on September 22, 2005, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger"Martha Stewart Discordianism"?
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/inert_chaos/martha_narrowweb__200x291.jpg)
It's good thing.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2005, 01:25:25 AM
Quote from: unlike_someone
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger"Martha Stewart Discordianism"?
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/inert_chaos/martha_narrowweb__200x291.jpg)
It's good thing.

Why do yuo hate Fat City?
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 22, 2005, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustleby that logic, Dick Cheney, Hitler, Rupert Murdoch, and Martha Stewart could all be discordians.

despite the fact that, you know, they live to impose order on the world.

8)

They can be considered Eristic Avatars however, since they did cause a lot of chaos unwittingly by their attempts to impose order. Just saying.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 22, 2005, 07:22:52 PM
oh, I know...but those are two separate things...I believe somebody already covered it, but you can be a Discordian Saint without being a discordian.

8)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 22, 2005, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustleoh, I know...but those are two separate things...I believe somebody already covered it, but you can be a Discordian Saint without being a discordian.

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Now just what did Martha Stewart really do to include her in a list with the others? She really doesn't fuck up much shit.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Cain on September 22, 2005, 07:25:18 PM
I believe she was a "useful example"
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 22, 2005, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: East Coast Hustleoh, I know...but those are two separate things...I believe somebody already covered it, but you can be a Discordian Saint without being a discordian.

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Now just what did Martha Stewart really do to include her in a list with the others? She really doesn't fuck up much shit.

you only say that becuase she doesn't own a summer home in your neck of the woods. she's at least as nasty and evil as everyone else on that list, she just weilds her influence in spheres other than the political.

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Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 22, 2005, 07:29:21 PM
True that.

I am sure she is a nasty prat.

Maybe the Repubs are gearing her up to be the 2012 president.

Maybe it's time to move to New Zealand. It's about as far from Amurricuh as I can think.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 22, 2005, 07:34:33 PM
she's a flat-out cunt, and that's a word I use VERY sparingly when talking about people.

as for NZ, I think if I knew anyone there I might be there already, but when I bail out I'm going to finally put my schooling to use and go to Russia where I have friends and a reasonable grasp of the language.

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Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Verthaine on September 22, 2005, 07:38:32 PM
Technically,you can call yourself anything you want.But can you get others to accept it?Or should you even care?
No one here(including me) really qualifies enough to say who is,or isn't,a "real discordian".Anyone who tries,is trying to do it out of a false sense of "authority". And unless some one pays my rent,buys my food,gives me sex,conforts me when i am down,or gives me weed,I don't recognize their "authority".I personally haven't considered myself a discordian for years.I once did,but I evovled into an erisian.And I really don't give a fuck who cares or not.Just saying.
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.And as discordians we have the right to resist any forms of generalization,catalogation,subjegation,folding,spindling or mutilation.
As a Child of Eris,if anyone wants to claim they are also a Child of Eris,then it is quite all right by me.I will consider them part of my family,and treat them the way they treat me.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 22, 2005, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustleshe's a flat-out cunt, and that's a word I use VERY sparingly when talking about people.

as for NZ, I think if I knew anyone there I might be there already, but when I bail out I'm going to finally put my schooling to use and go to Russia where I have friends and a reasonable grasp of the language.

8)

Russian chics are hotties too.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 22, 2005, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: VerthaineTechnically,you can call yourself anything you want.But can you get others to accept it?Or should you even care?
No one here(including me) really qualifies enough to say who is,or isn't,a "real discordian".Anyone who tries,is trying to do it out of a false sense of "authority". And unless some one pays my rent,buys my food,gives me sex,conforts me when i am down,or gives me weed,I don't recognize their "authority".I personally haven't considered myself a discordian for years.I once did,but I evovled into an erisian.And I really don't give a fuck who cares or not.Just saying.
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.And as discordians we have the right to resist any forms of generalization,catalogation,subjegation,folding,spindling or mutilation.
As a Child of Eris,if anyone wants to claim they are also a Child of Eris,then it is quite all right by me.I will consider them part of my family,and treat them the way they treat me.

Here, here.

I used to call myself a Child of Eris but it got me in trouble with the mental health board. Nowadays, I only admit to it when being completely blindly drunk.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2005, 01:41:37 AM
Quote from: Verthaine
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.

Then the word (and the idea) is utterly meaningless...mere sophistry.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: ataraxia on September 23, 2005, 02:32:21 AM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: VerthaineTechnically,you can call yourself anything you want.But can you get others to accept it?Or should you even care?
No one here(including me) really qualifies enough to say who is,or isn't,a "real discordian".Anyone who tries,is trying to do it out of a false sense of "authority". And unless some one pays my rent,buys my food,gives me sex,conforts me when i am down,or gives me weed,I don't recognize their "authority".I personally haven't considered myself a discordian for years.I once did,but I evovled into an erisian.And I really don't give a fuck who cares or not.Just saying.
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.And as discordians we have the right to resist any forms of generalization,catalogation,subjegation,folding,spindling or mutilation.
As a Child of Eris,if anyone wants to claim they are also a Child of Eris,then it is quite all right by me.I will consider them part of my family,and treat them the way they treat me.

Here, here.

I used to call myself a Child of Eris but it got me in trouble with the mental health board. Nowadays, I only admit to it when being completely blindly drunk.
(Here is where I make as ass of myself.)

I also really like the ring of that phrase, but I find I can't use it. The meaning it was given in one of the recent Books (Metaclysmia, maybe?) just fits too well. I'm not afraid to believe what I'm reading when I agree with it.

(Come to think of it, didn't Verthaine write the article in question anyway?)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2005, 02:38:53 AM
Quote from: ataraxia
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: VerthaineTechnically,you can call yourself anything you want.But can you get others to accept it?Or should you even care?
No one here(including me) really qualifies enough to say who is,or isn't,a "real discordian".Anyone who tries,is trying to do it out of a false sense of "authority". And unless some one pays my rent,buys my food,gives me sex,conforts me when i am down,or gives me weed,I don't recognize their "authority".I personally haven't considered myself a discordian for years.I once did,but I evovled into an erisian.And I really don't give a fuck who cares or not.Just saying.
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.And as discordians we have the right to resist any forms of generalization,catalogation,subjegation,folding,spindling or mutilation.
As a Child of Eris,if anyone wants to claim they are also a Child of Eris,then it is quite all right by me.I will consider them part of my family,and treat them the way they treat me.

Here, here.

I used to call myself a Child of Eris but it got me in trouble with the mental health board. Nowadays, I only admit to it when being completely blindly drunk.
(Here is where I make as ass of myself.)

I also really like the ring of that phrase, but I find I can't use it. The meaning it was given in one of the recent Books (Metaclysmia, maybe?) just fits too well. I'm not afraid to believe what I'm reading when I agree with it.

(Come to think of it, didn't Verthaine write the article in question anyway?)

Um, no, I wrote it.  Heresies I.  It was included in the Metaclysmia later on (in its entirety).
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Verthaine on September 23, 2005, 05:47:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Verthaine
There are as many types of discordians as their are discordians.

Then the word (and the idea) is utterly meaningless...mere sophistry.
And your point is?
since when is discordianism supposed to have meaning.If you wish it to have meaning,then give it meaning.If not,don't.
The P.D. is only the opinion of Thornley and Hill.We are free to take of it what we will.We are also free to create our own wholey holey holy books(Book of Eris,Metaclysmia,The Illuminatus!Trilogy,etc.)
While I believe that their veiw of discordianism(and eris and chaos,etc) is valid,I also believe that mine is just as valid,that st.Hughs just as valid,and the TGRR's is just as valid.Doesn't mean we all have to agree on it.Nor should we.
I do agree with H and T's statement that we are all popes.No one has the right to force their veiws of the Goddess on anyone.The best we can hope for is to present our veiws as intelligently as we can,and let everyone else decide for themselves whether or not they agree.
Let the wiccans desire to make their religion a legitamate,government recognized and sanctioned.I never needed anyone telling me wheter I am worshipping Eris the right way or not.If Goddess has a problem with the way I interact with her,she can let me know herself.And if anyone else has a problem with the way I interact with the Goddess,here's tWo words I have for them....

BLOW ME!!!!!
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: DJRubberducky on September 23, 2005, 03:14:41 PM
**** SELF-CENSORED ****
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 23, 2005, 03:41:27 PM
Verthaine's got the best response point.

Really it boils down to, do your own thing and fuck anyone else if they disapprove. Also "don't tread on me" and other silly phrases. Does this mean some Discordians - or Erisians - are the only remaining patriots in the USA today? If so, the country really is fucked. Since there are what? About a couple thousand of them?
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: AFK on September 23, 2005, 05:13:46 PM
No, the country is fucked because we're using the Roman's playbook.  We should be using Bellichek's.  Now that's partiotic.  nyuk. nyuk.   :lol:
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2005, 05:15:57 PM
Did you watch the last two games?  I'd say, call up Charlie Weiss, ask for his playbook.


LMNO
-doesn't have high hopes for the Pats this year.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: AFK on September 23, 2005, 05:23:32 PM
No, I agree.  They're not even going to get close enough to where Venitieri can save the day.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2005, 05:38:59 PM
::sniffle:

I blame the hole in Bruschi's heart.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 23, 2005, 07:01:42 PM
nice to see you guys have such faith.

I hope you remember you said this when they win an unprecedented 3rd super bowl in a row.

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Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2005, 07:11:21 PM
If they do, I will weep openly.  Tears of joy.

But c'mon.  if the pats play like they did last week, they're gonna lose to the browns, for chrissake..
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 23, 2005, 07:23:11 PM
remember a couple years ago when they got stomped 31-0 or whatever in the opening game against the Bills?

yeah.

8)
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: LMNO on September 23, 2005, 07:30:37 PM
You mean right after Lawyer malloy got traded to them with a head full of Patriot's strategy?

Yeah, I remember.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2005, 01:18:41 AM
(http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics10/!war/fuckthatshit/LeMur/bd_Fuck_That_Shit08.jpg)

The Heresies are officially closed.  No mas.

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Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: AFK on September 24, 2005, 02:20:21 PM
Back to the topic.  Are the Patriots Read Discordians?
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2005, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name?Back to the topic.  Are the Patriots Read Discordians?

Real?  Maybe, I've never been a patriot so I can never say.  having been bounced around this planet by irrespponsible parenting at an early age, i find patriotism as an idea a bit odd.  I can see why people do it, but its not for me.  That said, some of the people on here are more patriotic than any idiot in politics in America right now. As for the UK, we dont need patriots.  the common consensous over here is that the British are best anyway, so they dont need to say anything.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on September 24, 2005, 03:48:51 PM
he's talking about the American Football team.

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Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2005, 03:49:59 PM
Fuxx0r.  I though this was that other debate.  Teach me to go surfing on half a bottle of wine.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: AFK on September 25, 2005, 03:19:44 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name?Back to the topic.  Are the Patriots Read Discordians?

Holy Jeebus!!  I would like to buy an "L" Pat.
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 26, 2005, 08:47:25 AM
PORN CONE.

GAWDDAM!
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Donkeyotay on September 26, 2005, 10:23:32 AM
I will laugh heartily when the Bengals knock them out of the playoffs this year
Title: Rev Roger: The Heresies, Chapter 5: Real Discordians.
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on September 26, 2005, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: DonkeyotayI will laugh heartily when the Bengals knock them out of the playoffs this year

Naw. Don;t hold your bref.