First off, many of you so called discordian/sub-genii have very low standards of activitie from what I can tell about this whole fucking subculture particuraly this most obvious and banal of spots for discordians to congregate. Since I am rarely a poster or participant in the idiocracy of so-called internet forums I doubt I will be around to hear the countless flames that result from an insult being posted.
Yargh, this be my bar and my bar will be open.
To count lets just wonder how many discordians have ever truly thrown a golden apple, or participated in any activity which seriously disrupted the status quo, making funny faces at boring suburbanites and then running around giggling like you have heard some great secret is entertaining but I doubt that the cumulitive effect will alter their paradigm...
Ahh fuck it. The whole point here is I'd just like to see more so called Discordians engaging in the procreation of discord instead of posting mindless replies to petty comments. When I proposed a convergence of discordians for a sinking of Columbus, Ohio on Sinko de Mayo the topic was just full of silly ass off cuff remarks about not sinking a banal city cuz umm...
And now New Orleans ended up sinking into the Ocean and that was a totally discordian freaking party town full of erisians and like minded fools, now it's just a wasteland patrolled by greyface and not like these two events are directly correspondent but perhaps if we had sunk Columbus, Ohio on Sinko de Mayo or 05/05/05...then well the wrath of Gaia and her drunken hurricane wenches would of felt appeased that an absurdly middle of the road town in the midwest had already taken the wrath of sum of these puppets of the revolutionaries...
Actually, I'd just like to see more drunken revelries and less parroting pathetic phrases or acting crazier/sillier than thou...umm so I don't give a fuck really, don't bother berating me with how cool you are, if you offended by this perhaps its cuz you suck...
HAIL ERIS all HAil DISCORDIA...
i am the best master of every situation
that being said
i have not seen anything that you have done
unless you are responsible for the internet
which is unlikely
because i am pretty sure that was me
have you ever met-a-punk?
(baaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that was lame shit)
does anybody know where i can get an updated version of the activity standards?
to the OP:
you haven't been paying ANY attention, have you?
try lurking a bit to see what's actually going on before spouting off from your shitflaps...had you done so, you'd have seen that an entire coterie of us have spent the better part of the last year bitching about the very same thing. Also, several of us actually HAVE gone out and done some shit, as opposed to just calling ourselves punks and name-dropping the lamest gang in existence in our little rant like you did. you were name-dropping FSU Crew, weren't you? I thought so. those guys are mostly pussies and latent homosexuals whose self-loathing causes them to try and front like they're hard and beat up 15 year old kids at concerts. I eat FSU members for breakfast and wash them down with frosted flakes. So now that you've made a complete ass of yourself on a lame-ass forum full of lame-ass wannabe discordians (which makes you just about the lowest of the low, huh?), perhaps you'd like to share with us some of YOUR exploits?
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*Places bet concerning use of "KYFMS" to avoid admitting not much*
I dont even need to look at the odds.
I think it's just an attempt at getting some of us to spill our real life beans because the dude is looking for ideas.
I've enacted two suggestions I've made here.
I won't say which two.
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCI think it's just an attempt at getting some of us to spill our real life beans because the dude is looking for ideas.
I live with too many creatures that fart, spilling beans just makes me think of Beans, beans, the magical fruit :lol:
QuoteI think it's just an attempt at getting some of us to spill our real life beans because the dude is looking for ideas.
Well, if ECH is correct about the FSU bit, he'd probably need them. As far as I can tell, they are similar what we call "happy slappers" over here, who are about the most unoriginal cunts in history.
yah yah yah, it was definently lame shit talking, did you know i didn't really give a fuck to say it in the first place because it lacked any kind of propensity towards activities and who the fuck really cares about shit talking over the internet, the best and the worst of all, it's just funny how everything descends into puns and actually i have no clue who the fuck the FSU crew is/was/are, it was merely a acronym for First Stop Understanding...
Reality, I don't want to hear what you have done, and of course bitching about something when you just show up in a forum is just a way of causing attention but this is the ranting board, so fuck it I could give a fuck...
Actually, what really would be interesting is if there was a sense of solidarity or atleast a prolonged interest in attempting long-term actions beyond a sort of ADD brain numbed I forgot to not smoke my speed and then shoot my fucking mouth off for 25 minutes while I sit at my tech support job and wish I could smoke pot to chill out kind of vibe going on with the discordian movement in general...
Discordians pop up here and there and we hardly get along with each other because we are sugar addicted egotistical maniacs with poorly developed sex drives, as if... In reality, these are just metaphors for the fusion of personal experience and patheticly exposed narrative. Everything is perfect to each last flaw, bound by Eris in discordian law.
Has anyone ever heard the song "Get off the internet" by Le Tigre, I'd suggest firing up soulseek and listening to it. It speaks more elequently than I can. I certainly don't want to diss people on here and engage in a pissing contest although busting into a room with my dick out spraying urine all over your record player is bound to have that kind of influence on the mood. So do what you need to do. All I'm saying is "We Discordians should engage in a Radical Congress, cuz Greyface is eating our reality and pooping out grey bricks of reality TV."
Quote from: metapunkAll I'm saying is "We Discordians should engage in a Radical Congress, cuz Greyface is eating our reality and pooping out grey bricks of reality TV."
Can you explain that more? Because, contrary to what you may think, some of us here have also said these things, but we have also explained how we want to go about changing things. More information on what you suggest instead please.
from what i am seeing
we are changing things
its so much easier to call peoples bluffs now than ever before
Quote from: metapunkDiscordians pop up here and there and we hardly get along with each other because we are sugar addicted egotistical maniacs with poorly developed sex drives, as if... In reality, these are just metaphors for the fusion of personal experience and patheticly exposed narrative. Everything is perfect to each last flaw, bound by Eris in discordian law.
Maybe you give bad first impressions? I've gotten along pretty splendidly with the fine folks of this board and the other discordians I know in person. Perhaps a handshake would work better than urinating on their leg. And last time I checked with my wife the sex wasn't an issue.
QuoteHas anyone ever heard the song "Get off the internet" by Le Tigre, I'd suggest firing up soulseek and listening to it. It speaks more elequently than I can. I certainly don't want to diss people on here and engage in a pissing contest although busting into a room with my dick out spraying urine all over your record player is bound to have that kind of influence on the mood. So do what you need to do. All I'm saying is "We Discordians should engage in a Radical Congress, cuz Greyface is eating our reality and pooping out grey bricks of reality TV."
What the hell is a Radical Congress and how is that going to get RockStar:INXS off the air? Perhaps you should provide more discordian-style illumination upon your ideas so we all may benefite from your vast wisdom.
Umm I'm sure, I guess this could just end up being a driveby as I've never really been able to prolong interest in these internet forums, we got a nice community of discordians here in town that don't really do the whole discointernet ball thing. We did end up having a celebration for Sinko-de-Mayo, even after Eris ganked my cellphone on Chaoflux of this year leading to a lack of communication amongst all of the discordians in town...
I suppose I have no plan, to have a plan would be pathetic, because it's merely an attempt to paint possibilities with a grid intersecting onto dates, but I have ideas and perhaps I could of went through all of the inane debates and what not to try and find the meat of past conversations but instead its just easier to hop into the fray mouth blaring and fingers eloborating conventional ideas.
I was just quoting a suggestion from 1985 by Hakim Bey for a Congress of Weird Religions. http://www.left-bank.org/bey/foracong.htm
If you wanna hear what I'm proposing I doubt it's unique, fuck, I'd just like to see us engage in some more physical meet-ups and bizarre shite, but considering there are far to many wackos and miscreant holding/hiding the discordian banner it's unlikely to happen anyway but organically in order to prosper. I mean it just seems like the subgenii are the ones who used to hold all the parties and even seem to define discordians with their whole organized religion. I mean I was at X-day so I'm not talking shit, it was fun but I don't find dorky puns to be utterly enlighting, though if that is your cup of tea, sip it and gain what caffeinated cheese it provides you with...
Fuck people talking shit about chaos magick from their I'm so uber elite materialist that understands the universe obeys the laws of physics and your attempts at spirituality are just a joke that holds no basis in my ordered scientific materialist understanding of reality which I colour up with a little dorky joke on religion type shite...
AT this point. I would like to see more discordian temples, less dhrama, more anarchist orgys of confusion smart mob style such as the protests I've held to "Get Black Olive's out of the Can"...
I'd like to see crazy parades with bizarre costumes and some kind of critiques of the status quo television station cabbagecaster mentality which we all hate, but can't begin to alter through conventional means.
I had the idea to start a joke political party, the libertarian socialist discordian party, or LSD party but it reeks to much of electoral politics and drug busts for me to actually engage in said activitys under that moniker...we actually did hold a primary and decided to run Michael Dukasis for President and Big Boy holding Timothy Leary's ashes in a urn as VP. I think we won....
So really there is hardly anything possible via the disparate disconnection other than sharing ideas and flossing our teeth with these international forums...
I'd just like to see some meet-ups happening in real life now that MeetUPcorp decided to start charging people...Not like it happens...
Once friendships are formed. Anyways Discordianism always make me feel kind of queazy, but that's probably just my pineal gland acting up and/or the weird religiousness factor that disturbs the zen state of anarchy embodied in zenarchy when you start creating labels and running around with a label gun trying to alter everything by relabeling activities in perpetuity.
BEyond the immediate we could use a more interactive hub that would allow a continuity of dialogue and sharing of information that was accessible rather than buried in the context of a bulletin board style format. I could do it but I got lots of other shit on my plate and the chickens keep pooping more...
SO if anyone is in OHIO and they dig some kind of absurdist protest/colloboration and are wondering if it's snowing outside then respond. If you wanna joke about my name cuz I showed up out of nowhere with a new login and started dissing then go ahead, it might even be a real attempt at conversation after the insults die...
fighting todays wars with weapons designed for yesterdays
anybody else notice how the machine seems to benefit whenever things look like they went wrong on the surface?
yeah
more organized events so there is an excuse to put up more cameras
the seeds of the downfall are more deeply rooted than that
the machine will fall because everybodys health is failing at a younger age and personal debt is on the rise
the main problem is that i do not think there is any human being alive who wants to see how ugly shit is gonna get for a while when everything shakes down
this isnt really about tipping over cows
its more about 5-year-olds spleens exploding because their happy meal turned out to be a little too happy
you know, I was starting to think that dude might not have been a total douchebag until he got to the part where he started whining about people talking shit about chaos mahdjikque.
also, discordians are to subgenii what whiny leftist college "anarchists" are to Baader-Meinhoff.
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Quote from: East Coast Hustleyou know, I was starting to think that dude might not have been a total douchebag until he got to the part where he started whining about people talking shit about chaos mahdjikque.
also, discordians are to subgenii what whiny leftist college "anarchists" are to Baader-Meinhoff.
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I thought that as soon as he said plans were pathetic. I wont even go into why I think that is wrong, apart from saying *cough*OpenSourceChaosrant*cough*
No offense metapunk,but you're not the first entity to burst onto this board telling everyone on this board how to be a discordian,nor will you be the last.Some of us here have been discordian for decades,so you might understand why what you just did may be construed as rather insulting.
There are discordians here that think it is their duty to sow discord and create chaos.And there are those of us who know better.
While I honor the PD as a wholey,holey,holy book,we of the Church of Eris follow the teachings of The Book of Eris.
I'd prefer to see discordians live happier lives,then ggoing around sowing discord.Usually we of the COE call people who go around sowing discord ,"Drama Queens".
I feel it is better to try to change minds,then try to change the world.most people who go around trying to change the world usually change it for the worse.Only by being in Accord with Eris can this world be made better.
And again no offense,but are you from N'awlins,because I am.I stayed through the hurricane and 11 days afterwards.I've fed people.got peole water,got diapers for babies,and gave last rights to the dead.N'awlins was more then just a party town,it was one of the few places where there was any magic left.The lost of N'awlins affects us all,me and my wife most of all.
by what rights do you have coming here talking shit about others,when you haven't shown us any of your credentials.How can you comment on us when we don't know what you have done for Eris lately.
You come on this forum beating your chest,commenting on others on the way they are discordian,when you should be beating your head for doing the same thing you just put down others for doing.
Quote from: Verthaine...
There are discordians here that think it is their duty to sow discord and create chaos.And there are those of us who know better...
OK, dude, you know I wouldn't call you out on something if I didn't feel it was not only justified but necessary...
THAT statement is some seriously judgemental bullshit. I shouldn't have to explain why, but if you want me to, I will (in as non-assholish a way as possible, and over PM if you prefer.)
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you rang?
i skimmed the rant and saw my name.
:D
Metapunk: you can start your personal crusade by getting other people's ideas out of your puny excuse for a mind. What's left might be worthing distilling, but until you admit you're not the first, brightest, bestest name-dropper what never was you'll never get up off your ass let alone get other people to do the same.
Quote from: East Coast HustleQuote from: Verthaine...
There are discordians here that think it is their duty to sow discord and create chaos.And there are those of us who know better...
OK, dude, you know I wouldn't call you out on something if I didn't feel it was not only justified but necessary...
THAT statement is some seriously judgemental bullshit. I shouldn't have to explain why, but if you want me to, I will (in as non-assholish a way as possible, and over PM if you prefer.)
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Let me clarify.very few here know how to sow discord that
1-teaches some one a valuable lession
2-creates something positive out of it
3-doesn't make a bad situation worse
4-doesn't blow up in you face.
5-unwilling to face the consequences of wht they sow
and as to creating chaos
1-only eris can create chaos.
2-what people mistake for chaos is actaully drama.
I always thought being a discordian should at least give you an understanding as to when it is nescessary to generate eristic vibe to counteract an area that is heavily infeated with aneristic energy.
Quote from: Verthaine2-what people mistake for chaos is actaully drama.
A-fucking-men.
Well, I dont tend to think OM works that much anyway. hell, after letting Monty Python with a BBC budget run amok in London, half the capital has become desensitized to such things. And following comedy programs havent helped.
Yeah, rants can be boring. I suppose it depends on presentation. There are a few writers here who can be pretty engaging, but its a talent not all of us (especially me) are gifted with.
Quote from: VerthaineQuote from: East Coast HustleQuote from: Verthaine...
There are discordians here that think it is their duty to sow discord and create chaos.And there are those of us who know better...
OK, dude, you know I wouldn't call you out on something if I didn't feel it was not only justified but necessary...
THAT statement is some seriously judgemental bullshit. I shouldn't have to explain why, but if you want me to, I will (in as non-assholish a way as possible, and over PM if you prefer.)
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Let me clarify.very few here know how to sow discord that
1-teaches some one a valuable lession
2-creates something positive out of it
3-doesn't make a bad situation worse
4-doesn't blow up in you face.
5-unwilling to face the consequences of wht they sow
and as to creating chaos
1-only eris can create chaos.
2-what people mistake for chaos is actaully drama.
I always thought being a discordian should at least give you an understanding as to when it is nescessary to generate eristic vibe to counteract an area that is heavily infeated with aneristic energy.
a'ight. that makes much more sense. I'm not sure I agree with it entirely, but it comes off alot better than the condensed version did.
I suppose that technically "creating" chaos is impossible, in much the same way as creating matter is impossible, but in the everyday vernacular, "creating" chaos and "invoking/spreading/manifesting" chaos are pretty much interchangeable, at least as I see it.
and while I'm not advocating more drama, drama frequently IS chaotic, isn't it?
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Quoteand while I'm not advocating more drama, drama frequently IS chaotic, isn't it?
Remember how Hugh just ranted about distractions?
Well, drama is a distraction.
so are pithy one-liners.
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I don't have the patience for anything else. :P
Quote from: LHXi am the best master of every situation
does anybody know where i can get an updated version of the activity standards?
i have that same forune cookie except mine has no best.
the 3rd rule is don't talk about what you don't do.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodQuoteand while I'm not advocating more drama, drama frequently IS chaotic, isn't it?
Remember how Hugh just ranted about distractions?
Well, drama is a distraction.
Drama does nothing but booster up an already flacid ego.
We need to be like the ancient chaoist masters.They understood the Integral Way of Eris.They knew when it was necessary to generate eristic vibes in order to balance the hodge and podge.They sowed discord in order to disrupt heavily aneristic areas that strangled creativitie.'They manifested chaos in order to
insure great justice.
To many think they are masters at creating chaos,yet crumble when chaos happens to them.We erisians must know how to ride the chaos wave,navigate through the seas of confusion,learn how to survive the stormclouds of strife and discord.(sorry about all the nautical references.to be a true chaosit master takes more then just reading the PD once or twice,and saying fnord all the time.Being a discordian should be about understanding the workings of the Goddess,whether you worship her or not.
Quote from: metapunk
To count lets just wonder how many discordians have ever truly thrown a golden apple, or participated in any activity which seriously disrupted the status quo, making funny faces at boring suburbanites and then running around giggling like you have heard some great secret is entertaining but I doubt that the cumulitive effect will alter their paradigm...
HAIL ERIS all HAil DISCORDIA...
1. Dude, I've been screeching about this for two years. What? You thought you had a NEW idea? Get in line, chump.
2. Oh, JOY! Another Bobby! *squeal!*
Quote from: Verthaine
We need to be like the ancient chaoist masters.
Um, dood, you are one of the Ancient Wiseguys(tm). We ARE the ancient Chaos Masters(tm).
Quote from: East Coast Hustleto the OP:
you haven't been paying ANY attention, have you?
try lurking a bit to see what's actually going on before spouting off from your shitflaps...had you done so, you'd have seen that an entire coterie of us have spent the better part of the last year bitching about the very same thing. Also, several of us actually HAVE gone out and done some shit, as opposed to just calling ourselves punks and name-dropping the lamest gang in existence in our little rant like you did. you were name-dropping FSU Crew, weren't you? I thought so. those guys are mostly pussies and latent homosexuals whose self-loathing causes them to try and front like they're hard and beat up 15 year old kids at concerts. I eat FSU members for breakfast and wash them down with frosted flakes. So now that you've made a complete ass of yourself on a lame-ass forum full of lame-ass wannabe discordians (which makes you just about the lowest of the low, huh?), perhaps you'd like to share with us some of YOUR exploits?
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Why do I suspect he'll violate KYFMS?
Quote from: metapunkyah yah yah, it was definently lame shit talking,
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Fuck people talking shit about chaos magick from their I'm so uber elite materialist that understands the universe obeys the laws of physics and your attempts at spirituality are just a joke that holds no basis in my ordered scientific materialist understanding of reality which I colour up with a little dorky joke on religion type shite...
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Damn, there's a lot going on here.
Metapunk, I think your heart's in the right place but your typing fingers are in the thunderstorm. Go get pissed at the people actually *causing* the problem. Even if we really are just doing nothing about it, at least we're aware of it.
And I'm not in Ohio, but I am in Pittsburgh. Close enough - what are you actually planning?
Roger, do you realize this guy is sorta berating Discordians for having too much Slack?
And LHX, this place invented the Internet:
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Just sayin'. :lol: (and the protesters are a bonus, I didn;t even search for them)
Quote from: ataraxia
Metapunk, I think your heart's in the right place but your typing fingers are in the thunderstorm.
Naw. He's convinced that he's gonna teach us how to be REAL TRUE DISCORDIANS (tm), even though - judging from his pic - most of us have been tossing monkey wrenches in the gears since before he was born.
In addition, I expect that he's the weirdest person he knows, so he's used to having to poke weirdness out of others.
Lastly, he assumes that what he sees on the surface here is all that any of us do.
But, like I said, far be it from me to bitch about another useful idiot showing up to distract the PTB.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodMetapunk: you can start your personal crusade by getting other people's ideas out of your puny excuse for a mind. What's left might be worthing distilling, but until you admit you're not the first, brightest, bestest name-dropper what never was you'll never get up off your ass let alone get other people to do the same.
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You're giving me mittens? The fucks?
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodYou're giving me mittens? The fucks?
Um, mittens is the second-highest applause there is.
TGRR,
Doesn't see why you're pissed.
i'm in ohio. want me to throw something at him?
Naw, just confused.
...mittens?...
Quote from: mian tiao noodlei'm in ohio. want me to throw something at him?
Yeah. Indiana.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodNaw, just confused.
...mittens?...
It's an FC thing. Ask TCT, the other resident FC-Tard.
Well, thanks anyway.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodWell, thanks anyway.
No sweat. I am always in a generous mood, after watching another n00b go thud.
Especially guys like this, who are CONVINCED that Discordianism(tm) isn't just a gaily-painted prison cell designed to ensnare deviants and dissidents...that the CoN hasn't already numbered, filed, and shrunk wrapped this freak parade as a pre-packaged harmless "revolution".
Quote from: East Coast Hustle
drama frequently IS chaotic, isn't it?
Actually if Chaotic = unpredictable, then drama most certainly is
not chaotic.
Example, the "post whore" drama over the weekend was about as predictable as the Broncos absolutely destroying the Chiefs last night.[/list]
The only interesting aspect of this whole conversation had to do with the dhrama conceptualization. Sure chaos and drama are independent.
What happened when I came in here acting the fool, criticizing people and talking shit out of context, is that it offended people. Usually people are only offended when it strikes a nerve, or perhaps they just love to categorize and stereotype people into miscellaneous concepts.
It's more of an attack on the flame-war, one-liner atmosphere that Bulletin boards and internet forums generate than anything in particular against the participants of this one. If you go to any bulletin board what dominates is drama and flame wars cuz anyone who wants to have intelligent debate either gets ignored or bored or doesn't have the tenacity to stick it out. At least that's been my experience.
As far as discordianism, as per an ism, it's just an absurdist religion that brings together freaks and rejects to fly a flag and give each other silly titles. It poses no threat because there is no cohesion behind its adherents, they are just as likely to argue about the color of their turtlenecks than to engage in subversive activities. The spectacle will easily absorb their antics into its production, but atleast it doesn't embrace the consumer reality as the only game in town and attempt to profit off the pinks as the sub-genii engage in all out commercialism in attempt to commodify themselves. Well atleast theirs was as succesful strategy.
Now take it easy. Do whatever the fuck you want and we'll argue until this gets boring, which is right about now.
Um, remind me again where it says discordians should engage in subversive activites? Or indeed, any other action?
Quote from: metapunk
What happened when I came in here acting the fool, criticizing people and talking shit out of context, is that it offended people. Usually people are only offended when it strikes a nerve, or perhaps they just love to categorize and stereotype people into miscellaneous concepts.
Dude, that's about as lame as you can get. The whole "see? You guys aren't so open minded when I come in here and insult you!" gambit is just
played out. First, we weren't offended by the content of what you said, we were offended at how utterly
stupid you sounded. Second, there are plenty of reasons we get offended, and nerves are at the bottom of the list. Nice generalization there, by the way...
And also note, you got all pissy when we said how Anarchists should get beaten up.
Stop talking in cliches and we might start having "intelligent debates" with you.
Quote from: metapunkAs far as discordianism, as per an ism, it's just an absurdist religion that brings together freaks and rejects to fly a flag and give each other silly titles.
couldn't this be said for just about every belief structure.But at least discordianism acknowledges that fact.
Quote from: metapunkIt poses no threat because there is no cohesion behind its adherents, they are just as likely to argue about the color of their turtlenecks than to engage in subversive activities.
Anything in the PD is only the opinion of the Joshua Norton Cabal and POEE(and they both admit that).Other then that,there is nothing that says we discordians have to be subversive.Cohesiveness is anthemic to discordianism.I have said it before,question the motives of those who call for subversion and revolution,because nine times out of ten,they end up becoming even worse dictators then the ones the want to overthrow.
Quote from: metapunk
The spectacle will easily absorb their antics into its production, but atleast it doesn't embrace the consumer reality as the only game in town and attempt to profit off the pinks as the sub-genii engage in all out commercialism in attempt to commodify themselves. Well atleast theirs was as succesful strategy.
Our form of government,our capitalistic system works because it is designed to make a few people rich on the backs of everyone else.Personally I have no problem with capitalism.I have no problem with the concept of making money.Of course I acknowledge that this form of capitalism that pretty much rules the world now(we all seen how well communism works on a large scale.) is the only game in town.And its a very fucked up game.The anarchists delusion of "smashing the system" is just that,a delusion.We are at that stage in which it is better to try to survive in this world,try to make it better,rather then always trying to change it.
Discordianism must evolve faster then it is absorbed into the system.Only Eris can say which direction discordianism should take,and her way is to let individuals to decide in what direction they want their discordianism go.
What discordianism needs is teachers,not leaders.We need a call for wisdom,not revolution.
I agree with Hakim Bey when he says we need insurgents,not revolutionaries.
Quote from: LMNOQuote from: East Coast Hustle
drama frequently IS chaotic, isn't it?
Actually if Chaotic = unpredictable, then drama most certainly is not chaotic.
Example, the "post whore" drama over the weekend was about as predictable as the Broncos absolutely destroying the Chiefs last night.[/list]
you wouldn't believe how many of the idiots in my pool picked the chiefs. I'm 11-3 for the week and looking at the very real possibility of winning the pool this week, which is a nifty $190 payout.
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Who bets against the Broncos at home?
Man I would make a killing up there.
I agree with your Verhaine. Most anarchists are delusion without realizing their delusion, one aspect of discordianism I've always tried to bring to the anarchists table is that of the realization that what I perceive to be true is not True, of course this is just considered post-modernism by many but whatever that is besides the point.
When I mean subversive activities it really doesn't entail some kind of disruptive aggressive activities to sabotage the state or capitalism in general. I'm really just coming off that way because it ended up riling everyone up, fuck it I don't know why I post what I do, the words just flow out of my fingers and onto the screen without much forethough which is why it's easy to pick them apart and go haha what ?
So in actuality it was a stupid way to go about venting my rage towards the discordians but at least it provoked a discussion/argument and even if it made me look like a dumbass I don't really care because I'm still able to communicate my part even if whatever.
Ohh yeah and as far as chaos magickans go, I don't really know what everyones individual decisions are about them. In general I don't know too many, I met some kid who said that the operation mindfuck discordians on here harassed him cuz he was all about the sigils and then he was touring around with some other wacko's that I know and well...
I could offer a critique of chaos magick from the perspective that its kind of a self-absorbed egotistical mindfuck as opposed to a zenarchist outerflowing universal mindfuck as I could see a pantheistic erisian taoist point of view.
Really though I would like to see a sort of scavenger based gift economy in the market of excess, and ultimately establishing survival is kind of dependent upon not destroying the resources we depend upon for survival in general, as per permaculture and chaos gardening rather than industrial agroculture...
Hmm, yeah...It's fun attempting to redevelop the faux persona on a internet site coming in from being stereotyped as a hater better than thou whiny snotty kid to the actual embodiment of whatever fucking ego trip attached to this body is...
Uh-oh, he's talking about chaos muhhaddjickqueue. Better get my raincoat.
Seriously, dude, you're not saying anything interesting, let alone original. You really are postmodernist!
ohh well time to quite wasting my time replying to people who can only say your not cool, not like me, your ideas are lame and unoriginal and not even interesting.
i don't really care, did I come in here proclaiming I HAVE IT ALL FIGURED out...Discordians should learn how to fuck shit up...ohh wait, I did...
hahahahaha...that's hillfuckinglarious...
one thing I know for sure, discordians sure know how to engage in flame wars...ohh wait that's cuz we invented the concept.
yeah any steam i had is now deflated in the perspective of jaded disgruntledness i'm gonna go get a job at a corporate fast food resteraunt so i can get drunk and subscribe to newsweek...
THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
Seriously, dude. The point we're making is that we've been over all of this, many times, and we're just tired of people coming in here who haven't looked around the site and simply proclaim something they think is original and/or deep and/or controversial.
Especially in the pompus way you did.
If you really want to talk about this stuff, don't proclaim; propose. Suggest, offer up some facts and a coherent frame of reference.
Just don't let ECH or TGRR hear you talking about chaos madjyikque. They don't go for that stuff.
i don't know
i think metapuke
er mezapunk
er
whomever
is starting to sound kind of interesting
i think eveyone is skipping over what he is saying
because you didn't like the way he started out
when he saidQuote from: metapunkThe spectacle will easily absorb their antics into its production, but atleast it doesn't embrace the consumer reality as the only game in town and attempt to profit off the pinks as the sub-genii engage in all out commercialism in attempt to commodify themselves
he's talking about co-optation
and how discordianism has been coopted
but not over commercialized
i think
he seems to be aware of the machine
and the system
but just wanted to be screwy
when he showed up
because
well
he just wanted to be screwy
now my bunny brain
is starting to overheat
so i will go find something to drink
and cool off for a while
I'm with you, bunny.
He said some stuff that showed promise, but then he started up with his n00b schtick again, and I got turned off.
Quit talking about chaos madjhgickque. I am tired of wearing this tin foil hat already.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodUh-oh, he's talking about chaos muhhaddjickqueue. Better get my raincoat.
Yeah, this could be like the front row at a Gallegher show.
Quote from: metapunkIt's more of an attack on the flame-war, one-liner atmosphere that Bulletin boards and internet forums generate than anything in particular against the participants of this one. If you go to any bulletin board what dominates is drama and flame wars cuz anyone who wants to have intelligent debate either gets ignored or bored or doesn't have the tenacity to stick it out. At least that's been my experience.
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As far as discordianism, as per an ism, it's just an absurdist religion that brings together freaks and rejects to fly a flag and give each other silly titles. It poses no threat because there is no cohesion behind its adherents, they are just as likely to argue about the color of their turtlenecks than to engage in subversive activities. The spectacle will easily absorb their antics into its production, but atleast it doesn't embrace the consumer reality as the only game in town and attempt to profit off the pinks as the sub-genii engage in all out commercialism in attempt to commodify themselves. Well atleast theirs was as succesful strategy.
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:D
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What happened when I came in here acting the fool, criticizing people and talking shit out of context, is that it offended people.
No, no...when we LAUGH at you, we are
amused.
You haven't
enlightened us, kid, you just made us laugh.
(At you, not with you)
Quote from: metapunkI agree with your Verhaine. Most anarchists are delusion without realizing their delusion,
But YOU are different, right? :lol:
Quote from: metapunkohh well time to quite wasting my time replying to people who can only say your not cool, not like me, your ideas are lame and unoriginal and not even interesting.
Bye.
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Just don't let ECH or TGRR hear you talking about chaos madjyikque. They don't go for that stuff.
Sure we do. In the same manner that a pitbull goes after a duckling.
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i think eveyone is skipping over what he is saying
because you didn't like the way he started out
Yep. First impressions are a bitch.
Quote from: metapunkohh well time to quite wasting my time replying to people who can only say your not cool, not like me, your ideas are lame and unoriginal and not even interesting.
i don't really care, did I come in here proclaiming I HAVE IT ALL FIGURED out...Discordians should learn how to fuck shit up...ohh wait, I did...
hahahahaha...that's hillfuckinglarious...
one thing I know for sure, discordians sure know how to engage in flame wars...ohh wait that's cuz we invented the concept.
yeah any steam i had is now deflated in the perspective of jaded disgruntledness i'm gonna go get a job at a corporate fast food resteraunt so i can get drunk and subscribe to newsweek...
fuck
coming to terms with this discordian shit really sucks ass
but
anything else seems to be suicide
ahhhhhhhhhhh well
you lose some
you lose some
it could be worse
technically
umm really now guys, you took it all way to seriously, but if my stumbling into the party and spilling the bunch bowl and then urinating in the aquarium was amusing to you then you got whatever you needed from the moment at hand...
toss another mug into the air and slurp the beer before it gets soaked into the urine/fish water shaped mug by destroying the laws of gravity with my super anarchist fun powers...
Wow, no one said you were a historical revisionist, as well...
Quote from: metapunkumm really now guys, you took it all way to seriously, but if my stumbling into the party and spilling the bunch bowl and then urinating in the aquarium was amusing to you then you got whatever you needed from the moment at hand...
toss another mug into the air and slurp the beer before it gets soaked into the urine/fish water shaped mug by destroying the laws of gravity with my super anarchist fun powers...
it lasts longer if you take a picture
Metapunk, why are trying so hard?
Would you relax if we sent you a target sign to wear?
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCMetapunk, why are trying so hard?
Would you relax if we sent you a target sign to wear?
as long as it is neon
and makes noises
Quote from: LHXQuote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSCMetapunk, why are trying so hard?
Would you relax if we sent you a target sign to wear?
as long as it is neon
and makes noises
No. We save those for people we like.
Quote from: metapunkumm really now guys, you took it all way to seriously,
TRANSLATION: "This didn't work out the way I thought it would, so now I'm going to backpedal and say I was joking."
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Are we, as Discordians, morally required to take nothing seriously? Is that what he's saying?
Quote from: Rabid Badger of GodAre we, as REAL TRUE Discordians(tm), morally required to take nothing seriously? Is that what he's saying?
It is NOW. :lol:
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Apparently, I somehow stumbled upon this Discordian subculture when a good buddy of mine refered it to me on the justifiable note: "Random like a discordian." Then went on a complete 20 minute informative converstation on f-n-o-r-d.
I have no idea how this ties into this fucking converstation. Just random I guess.