Thought processes are based on a bunch of neurons in your brain firing in sequences to produce some output patern that is categorized as either thought, or behavior. Logic is the use of thought to attempt to correlate ideas with each other based on similarity, causation, effect, and possible outcomes. Since it's only based on the firing of neurons, we can't really be certain in any way that logic/reasoning/all thoughts are related in any way to reality. Logic isn't necessarily right. Thus, the old Cogito Ergo Sum bit might not mean anything. It certainly seems that there's a correlation between existing, and being able to do anything, but this correlation can't really be proven without assuming it's true (IE assuming you and the universe around you exist). I don't buy it. I'm not here, I'm not writing this, and you're not reading it. I'm just a figment of my own non-existant imagination.
Just because logic may not jive with 'reality' doesn't mean you don't exist.
I don't see the connection there.
you should try the barstool experiment.
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tip #14 - a paragraph will never prove your non-existance to others
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Beat me to it.
Barstool experiment > alot of philosophy on the nature of reality. But that sort of philosophy is good if you want to start worrying people for a while. How do you know you aren't a clone business, traits of being, why cant the Universe have been created yesterday and so on.
I don't necessarily think that I've proven I don't exist. But I always take it as safe to assume something doesn't exist unless you find some proof that it does, and since nothing quite seems provable to me, I'm mostly convinced that I'm perhaps a figment of my own imagination. I say mostly because I still try to eat.
These are the same people who say "You don't know if you can fly until you jump off a skyscraper"., or,"the bullet can't hurt me if I don't believe it exists".
Quote from: VerthaineThese are the same people who say "You don't know if you can fly until you jump off a skyscraper"., or,"the bullet can't hurt me if I don't believe it exists".
If I don't believe the bullet exists, but the bullet believes I exist, does it still rip a giant hole in my flesh?
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyQuote from: VerthaineThese are the same people who say "You don't know if you can fly until you jump off a skyscraper"., or,"the bullet can't hurt me if I don't believe it exists".
If I don't believe the bullet exists, but the bullet believes I exist, does it still rip a giant hole in my flesh?
Damn skippy.Bullets don't bother with philosophy.
There's only one way to be sure though.
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Anytime you want to stand in front of Big Bertha 2,be my guest, just saying?
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Anytime you want to stand in front of Big Bertha 2,be my guest, just saying?
Yeah, I am not really suicidal and my hormones set off these giant rage attacks, so if I decide to check out this theory, the bullet will be going into someone else. Unless the Fartknocker doesn't get a deer, then maybe I could go deer hunting with my sister or my Hispanic friend, they both know how to kill, deer that is :twisted:
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Anytime you want to stand in front of Big Bertha 2,be my guest, just saying?
That wouldn't prove anything to anyone though, I could very well be a figment of someone's imagination.
Besides, I believe in bullets.
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Anytime you want to stand in front of Big Bertha 2,be my guest, just saying?
Yeah, I am not really suicidal and my hormones set off these giant rage attacks, so if I decide to check out this theory, the bullet will be going into someone else. Unless the Fartknocker doesn't get a deer, then maybe I could go deer hunting with my sister or my Hispanic friend, they both know how to kill, deer that is :twisted:
OH NOES!!!1
AYRTS?
she is not here solely for your amusement.
she is not your toy.
stop treating her like she is.
Quote from: Horab Fibslagershe is not here solely for your amusement.
she is not your toy.
stop treating her like she is.
I second that motion
The motion has developed constipation.
Also, didn't you say you wanted the Mgt to delete your account Horab?
borp!
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Also, didn't you say you wanted the Mgt to delete your account Horab?
i did.
i hope she still does.
if i were roger, i spose i would blame her slack for me being here today.
but i am not, am not, and it wouldn't have stopped me anyway.
What's the point though? We all know you'll come back with a different moniker.
For all we know you already have.
machine grind dream?
Could be.
I shit nothing and eat it for breakfast, then puke it up and make evil black art with it.
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy...maybe I could go deer hunting with my sister or my Hispanic friend...
interesting that you feel the need to let us all know that you have an ethnic friend.
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what is the worst that a bullet could do?
aside from hurt?
Well, it could, for example, destroy a supporting bone which then due to gravity rips through several internal organs before pushing its way out of your flesh.
yes
pain
Nah, internal bleeding and pain.
whats the worst internal bleeding can do?
Kill you. Slowly. And messily.
i got a hunch that none of the deaths are clean
What's the worst death can do to me?
it could cause you to miss the new season of "24"
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Quote from: CainKill you. Slowly. And messily.
And painfully, internal bleeding is very painful :cry:
Its funny, I should technically know jack shit about guns. Even the Royal Engineers only let me play with them for a few days. I read too much, that must be it.
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I turd that motion.
As a point of .... Thing ...... Forget?
If you do not feel that you are more than the physical body, then you are only electrical impulses, stimuli coming to a brain which decodes them and interprets them into the five senses.
If this is correct, then the only truth which you can have is an internal interpretation of a unprovable, perhaps, external reality.
Therefore, you cannot prove that I exist, nor anyone or anything else.
If I send you a text message (or post here), this will not mean that I exist.
If I talk with you on the phone, this will not mean that I exist.
If we meet in person, this will not mean that I exist, as once we part, I am undone.
It would only be your perception, of maybe the passage of what you believe as time, which would make you feel that something had happened.
Now you must be God in this place as you create all things, good or bad, around you.
How??
Freedom of choice.
Through your own day to day actions or in-actions, your own acceptance or rejection, your own dominance or submission, your own beliefs or dis-beliefs in all of this reality as you perceive it, in your world. You have your own feelings which no one else can have first hand knowledge of, which you alone control or allow to be controlled by, but which you cant prove are real.
In fact most thoughts you have do not happen, you just worry about them.
Why is this?
Because you decided to change the playing field in some way, which then negated any chance that the 'worry' would exist in your world.
You do change the existence, your world, around you, as you believe. For good or bad.
It is and always has been your choice in your world.
So I do not exist and You are God.
And I am only a being in a dream, which needs not time, space or mind.
To reflect....if I am reading your reply does not mean that I exist. It only means that you are creating an interaction.......with your own nature.
How can you....as the god you are within your creation.......be reading some one else's thought....there is only you!
That we are both anothers thought could not be correct as only one exists.......this being is you, defining your life, I have never 'felt' your emotions, known your 'fears', been expanded by your actions....the place you are in.......I am not and I am nor could be .......you.
There is only you.
Within the world that you create by your determination of that which you want, I have NO knowledge of.
That is your world....filled only by that which you create or allow.
Many allow harm and fear within their worlds....many of the fears are thoughts and do not become. This is an individual choice. I cannot make your decisions upon your actions then becoming your illusions!
Only you can allow.
Do you create within my world unless by my thought acceptance?
Can you determine that I have an awareness?
Have I a life?
Do I have emotions the same as you?
If we meet....do I still have a physical structure defined by electromagnetism which is self conscious or do I dissolve until needed as a form again?
Is my material structure the same as yours?
Am I a form of artificial intelligence created by you?
What I trying to say is that unless you ARE me.......can you be certain that I am?
Here is the answer to this question. Posted by a beautiful soul. The ONLY time this question has been answered and 'completely finished a circle' :
For me lake, until you came into my awareness, you did not exist for me. However, now that you have come into my awareness, if we never spoke again, or interacted in any way, physically, verbally, or by text, you will and would continue to be a part of my reality forever, and I will never forget you. You can not ever, not exist for me again.
For this answer....I can only always love this being
So from this we can find that there are answers to all of our questions....ask each other, without hanging on to limitations.
Train ride .... I think?
Beef stroganoff.
I find that solopsism and nihilism are the best possible Fallout Boy song material that you can trip across.
I don't like these new people
Atleast my shitposting is either drunk, high, or ironic.
Quote from: Meunster on August 03, 2015, 12:14:13 AM
I don't like these new people
Atleast my shitposting is either drunk, high, or ironic.
For reasons I have never been able to figure out, I actually like you. It's probably because you're not a Libertarian.
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I find that solopsism and nihilism are the best possible Fallout Boy song material that you can trip across.
:lulz:
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Quote from: Meunster on August 03, 2015, 12:14:13 AM
I don't like these new people
Atleast my shitposting is either drunk, high, or ironic.
For reasons I have never been able to figure out, I actually like you. It's probably because you're not a Libertarian.
I'll say the same. It might have to do with my native Wisconsinite love of cheese or perhaps the modern Promethian joke I take from your pic. I surely don't agree with you much, but you're palatable. Particularly by comparison with this new batch of raw curds.
Nonexistence is a figment of your imagination.
Can you prove me wrong?
Quote from: Drake75 on August 06, 2015, 03:52:03 AM
Nonexistence is a figment of your imagination.
Can you prove me wrong?
:barstool:
Quote from: Drake75 on August 06, 2015, 03:52:03 AM
Nonexistence is a figment of your imagination.
Can you prove me wrong?
How deep.
Quote from: Drake75 on August 06, 2015, 03:52:03 AM
Nonexistence is a figment of your imagination.
Can you prove me wrong?
your waifu is a bad
Can you prove me wrong?