There are rats in the walls of the House of Eris. Some of the very people you have come to trust and/or respect, people who you have looked to for wisdom and guidance, people who you had thought were on your side in this great struggle called "life"...those people would seek to harm you, to impugn your integrity, and to belittle and insult your efforts at bettering your world.
Now, this is not one of those nebulous rants where platitudes and invectives are hurled about willy-nilly, with no target other than the big red bullseye of generalization.
No...sadly, this rant is pointed at a specific individual.
An individual who, in spite of prior treachery and backstabbing, was welcomed with open arms into whatever circles he chose to make himself a part of. An individual who would put his own self-interests and sense of elitism and entitlement ahead of the greater good of our kind (mankind).
Call me old-fashioned, but if I have something to say to someone, I say it to their face. This holds true even if what I have to say is directed at a group, and I am but one man. No backhanded sniping is needed in this group of peers. We are beset bay enemies and obstacles from all sides, at all times, and still we are forced to put up with treachery and underhandedness from one of our own?
How can we defend the walls if there are villains already hiding inside our defenses? And, more to the point, how can such a person continue to trumpet their devotion to chaos and freedom in the face of such overwhelming evidence to the contrary? the very existence of such an individual is a black stain on the bright and vibrant heart of Discordia.
how many of you are exicted about what we are trying to do? how many of you have put a great deal of time and effort into this project already? How many of you are filled with a sense of pride when you read through the pages of this forum and see what we are creating?
How many of you are willing to keep perpetuating the endless cycle of letting bad apples spoil good bunches?
This is a notice to those that would seek to tear the very walls of our house down around our ears:
it is YOU who are excommunicated. Not by OUR words or wishes, but by YOUR OWN reprehensible actions.
You are not welcome in our house any longer.
Please take your ball and go home. We don't want to play with you anymore.
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Incidentally, two new sermons on the way tonight. Once I've slept enough so I can remember the first.
Edit: Make that tomorrow. Too tired to sleep, it wont help.
:?:
Sorry, ECH.
I'll pack my bags.
Apologies, everyone.
(no, not really. Sheesh.)
Heh, I just saw what this rant was about.
(it wasn't LMNO, although taking a shit in my sink was a dick move: thanks LMNO, I'm just glad it was beershits and easily washed out)
Also, the thread this thread was referencing involved spectacular self-ownage and I couldn't help but splurt lol all over it. Now I'm spent but my prostate feels clean.
LMAO
this is such a vague open-ended exercise
open-source subversion
something that invites people to contribute or leave alone
and it still draws hate
why dont people just take what they can use and run with it?
or if they dont see anything they need
just leave it
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LHX, are ou drunk too?
Quotehow many of you are exicted about what we are trying to do? how many of you have put a great deal of time and effort into this project already? How many of you are filled with a sense of pride when you read through the pages of this forum and see what we are creating?
no goal has been stated.
The only project that has been openly discussed is modernizing the Principia.
What is that "we," are trying to do?
What is it that "we," are creating?
Bitter Hughs.
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Quote from: Machine Grind DreamLHX, are ou drunk too?
fatigue
too much super mario bros
Who the hell is he talking about anyhow?
I think its Irreverend Hugh but... I have no idea why, or why he hasn't just come out and said it... I could also be totally wrong.
Because uncertainty increases the fear factor. It could be any of you, reading it right now. Everyone is a suspect, leading to a healthy state of paranoia.
8)
I'm a traitor? Damnit! I betrayed everyone so thoroughly I even tricked myself! I'm so darn cunning!
I'm sorry guys, I'll go stand by the stairs :(
the individual to whom it is addressed knows who they are and what they've done.
When did he do that? Can I get a link? :shock:
http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2085
Hrm...
Well... I hadn't seen that... thanks ECH. Puts things in perspective a little.
Well Hugh does have a point.
However the method of presenting said point was rather rude, abrupt and as subtle as a thrown half-brick.
Which REALY doesn't do well to getting across one's feelings and the whole point tends to be lost in vitriol.
Quote from: WolfpoetWell Hugh does have a point.
In your eyes,
what is his point?
Organisation.
Some people have decided that for Discordianism to succeed it has to be organised. Various debates to the level of that organisation, but that's a growing view.
Now most people who would disagree I think tend to just shut up now, get slammed for voicing an opinion otherwise.
I got that, i still remember the slamming i got for what peopel thought was "trying to ruin what they where trying to achieve".
So now I add what insights I can and keep my opinions to myself.
Hugh believes that organisation would turn Discordianism into some political/religous/fan club etc (pick whichever applies).
That's his point, in my view.
There is always a danger that organisation would lead to mobilisation and turn the whole damn thing into a runaway monster.
It's just a possibility, not saying that's what will happen so no flaming please.
your view is noted, but flawed in that there's quite a bit of history and back-story that you're unaware of.
Hugh likes to lash out anytime he perceives that someone he disagrees with might be threatening his status as Uber-elite Discordian Royalty.
last time, he accused me of hacking PD.com, lied about having evidence to prove his ridiculous accusations, convinced the other people who were mods at the time to either back his lie or remain silently complicit, had me banned from the original EB&G site, used his mod-hood to maliciously edit my posts, and basically did everything in his power to run me off, as well as anyone who dared to come to my defense.
I'm not stupid. I buried the hatchet and forgave him in the interest of the larger group dynamic (and because moral victories are hollow when they involve being run out of your favorite forum), but I didn't forget what happened. Now he's not in a position to run me off of these here forums, so I don't feel the need to accept his shitty treatment of myself and the other people who are guilty of thoughtcrimes in the esteemed opinion of his most Exalted Irreverend.
Also, I don't think it's cool to talk shit behind peoples' backs.
This is the correct dish best served cold. I was unfortunately indisposed for most of that particular nastiness, but it wasn't pretty.
Yeah... you gotta admit, its the whole cross-forum thing that makes it seem a little bit more malicious. His point would probably seem more valid and less... well, for lack of a better word, mean.
Quote from: wolfpoetThere is always a danger that organisation would lead to mobilisation and turn the whole damn thing into a runaway monster.
I'd welcome a runaway monster.
I think Discordia needs more runaway monsters.
Organization is not the right word...increased communication would be much better, while having the desired effects and very little of the downsides. More on that another time though.
let it be known
that people travelling to the same destination tend to end up on the same path
its not organization
but
it happens to carry a resemblance to something we refer to as 'being organized'
if im in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
and
you are in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
does it mean we are organized?
LMAO
Quote from: LHXif im in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
and
you are in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
does it mean we are organized?
that's AT LEAST the post of the month.
Quote from: LHXif im in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
and
you are in a sinking ship trying to get to dry land
does it mean we are organized?
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bump.