i've decided that every problem we have ever discussed on this board is caused by SOCIETY. if there wasn't society, there wouldn't be any problems. maybe as soon as i'm 18 i'll move to the woods somewhere and become a hermit.
Religion -> based on society
Government -> based on society
Those are the two major problems we face right?
SOCIETY IS BAD!
Funny, ranting about society to a society.
i don't like the discordian society much either. we never get anything done in my opinion.
Quote from: Slarti is Deadi don't like the discordian society much either. we never get anything done in my opinion.
Whoah there, who said anything about productivity being a good thing?
me
i do. we can't just sit here and play word games and complain and then not try to do anything about it.
MINDFUCKS DO NOT WORK PEOPLE!!! NOBODY CARES!!! they'll just flip away to the sports section of the newspaper, thinking 'what weirdos, i'm glad i'm normal.'
MIND FUCKS DO NOT WORK
Until somebody discovers the "I'm a bastard" gene, the Man will reign supreme.
"He who fucks nuns will later join the Church."
Quote from: Resident Trolli do. we can't just sit here and play word games and complain and then not try to do anything about it.
MINDFUCKS DO NOT WORK PEOPLE!!! NOBODY CARES!!! they'll just flip away to the sports section of the newspaper, thinking 'what weirdos, i'm glad i'm normal.'
MIND FUCKS DO NOT WORK
SOMEBODY just opened his eyes too wide.
Terminal brain overload...I've seen this before.
(http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics10/IMBJR-collection/movies/pink_news_hurtz.gif)
FUCK YOU ROGER
Quote from: Resident TrollFUCK YOU ROGER
But I hardly KNOW you...
Rev Roger,
Doesn't do cybersex.
There is more than one type of productivity.
Doesn't have to be a mindfuck that changes things, Slarti-no-more.
Everybody has their own way of working to stimulate change....
You have your cartoons and I use my tarot readings to plant seeds of thought in the clients brains.
Sometimes it actually works - other times it may not.....or it may take years and we will never know about it.
I'd be interested to hear what it is you want to accomplish.
i want to stop being a 'slave to the machine' as greyface roger puts it. if i even am a slave.
wait a second... maybe roger's wrong and i'm not a slave... well that's good, i'll go with that, ignorance is bliss.....
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomSometimes it actually works - other times it may not.....or it may take years and we will never know about it.
In the meantime, we can (http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/em71.gif)
Quote from: Resident Trollwait a second... maybe roger's wrong and i'm not a slave... well that's good, i'll go with that, ignorance is bliss.....
And JFK and Oswald both died natural deaths in 1963, and everything has been just fine since then, anyway!
sounds good.
Quote from: Resident Trolli've decided that every problem we have ever discussed on this board is caused by SOCIETY.
They way you say that makes it sound like you're not taking a personal responsibility for those problems.
All the problems that you perceive have as much to do with the ways that you think about the world around you as they actually have to do with the world around you. If you start blaming a fictictious entity, like society, that exists out there, you fall into the trip of thinking that 'out there' isn't an illusion.
Change requires energy. The more profound a change is, the more energy it requires. Getting angry and frustated is good but if you just throw yourself into high energy states without any thought for what happens next then something will just happen. Either you'll get frustrated that nothing is different and go completely off the planet, turning into a burnt-out wacko who can longer hold a rational conversation with anyone, or you'll just give up and settle back into the herd.
The reason that nothing is changing in your world is that the core beliefs (those ones that are locking you into this way of thinking/lokking at things) are remaining untouched by your emotional chaos. You need to pull them out, look at them and be prepared to throw them away (if you so choose). This is frightening, usually painful and (especially the first few times, before you get addicted to it) leaves you feeling like you were smacked over the head. I also occasionally find that things like depth perception usually don't work so well for a couple of days. YMMV.
I can't really tell you how to find it or make your world change but if you're up to it, try meditating on the one thing that you hold to be true above all others. Find people who diasagree with you and look like they have intelligent reasons why they do so (random calls/email to university philosophy departments and/or libraries can sometimes be useful). Try to understand what they're say. Keep going until you can no longer tell what you believe and even your gut can't decide one way or the other. Then sit down and
decide for yourself what you want to believe. Biggest. High. Ever.
When a caterpillar wants to change into a butterfly, it wraps itself up into a cacoon. Inside the caterpillar dissolves itself. The result is not at all even slightly identifyable as a creature - it is just homogenous protein goop. Some magic occurs and the goop re-assembles itself into a butterfly. If you want to change your whole world from being the size of a leaf, you first have to dissolve yourself and trust that you'll reassemble into something that can flutter places you can't even conceive of now.
Good luck.
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Oh yeah, and don't believe anything you read - I'm full of shit too...
you've calmed me down. thanks for the post guido, makes a lot of sense.
Don't get calm.
This happened a few weeks ago to you. It is happening again because She is telling you that it is time to stand up and be counted.
It'll keep happening until you get the message.
If you can't figure out how to get started, try doing as many trivial things differently as you can - change your brand of coffee, brush your teeth differently, catch a different bus, read the principia upside-down, back to front, insde-out or fnordwards.
Start acting different and this'll help get you into the mindset of being prepared for change. Once you do that, stuff will start to happen (so try to pay attention and go with the flow).
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Nope, still full of shit...
k i'll try that. thanks for the advice.
I make it a point to try at least one new food every month.
Last month was tempura ice cream.
This month, I thinking of trying somthing Tai. Or Duck. I've never had duck before.
next month try theiopian babies. i hear teh meat is uber tender from lack of excercise.
i have found happiness in slavery, and so can you.
the problem with opening your eyes too wide is getting them to close again. it''s a real menace.
Ah Slarti, you've gone and mindfucked yourself. At least Guido's pacifying you.
You do have a point though, all this stuff we do (as Discordians), it doesn't work. That's what's great, we're just as hypocritical as those we accuse of hypocrisy. But there lies the strength of our "Discordian" society. We are a bulging paradox, we don't make sense, we aren't even real Discordians.
But the moment anyone listens to me on what Discordia is, they're truly lost.
That one made the quotes file :)
The Discordian samaritan is the one who helps up their fellow who has fallen and then slaps them upside the head for thinking that 'up' is better.
Very true, "up" is simply easier.
nice avatar guido
:)
You're not looking so bad yourself.
hey the pretty kitty dissapeared
The guys who do my hosting have been having a few hardware issues lately. They were planning an upgrade soon - this could be it....
darn that whole hosting thing, people should be fighting over who should have the privelage to give me free hosting.
Say, Slarti, where'd you find that avatar? I wanna see what Agent Elrond says in his thought bubble. :)
without bubble:
(http://www.jackal-logic.com/agent-elrond.jpg)
I never realized that Agent Smith and Elrond are the same actor, or else they're twins.
I don't quite know what to say. But I kind of understand your condition. I can go through periods of massive depression and anger, feeling like pure hell. A lot of things can bring it on. I have pretty fragile emotions, and yes, I cry sometimes. I sometimes want to just die. But Slarti, I try as I can to stay happy and pull through. Maybe it's the antideppressents I'm on, or maybe it's just me. I can go through some serious overloads, and Roger mentioned it as a sort of shell shock of the pineal gland, like from exposure to lots of pain and grey. Anyway you're not alone, man. And you're one of the best minds in my crap generation.
Okay that was awkward.... By the way I saw Duck soup by the Marx brothers last night. Very funny.
Discordianism WORKS. Defnilitily. ?íh, really.
It keeps me happy. It makes me laugh. When I'm confronted with greyness it makes me smile.
Also I giggle from times to times.
..Kallisti..
Cthyga
you know what i don't like about the world today?
i'm in high school. i'm expected to take tons of classes, gets A's in all of them (to my parents, a B is failing), while simultaneously (starting next summer) have a JOB so i can save up for college. This whole job thing doesn't look good. it doesn't agree with the whole 'laziness' thing.
so then, when i'm out of High School, i have to try to get scholarships and get accepted to college. then i have to go to more classes, and this time i really can't fail cuz i'm paying for it...
then after that, i have to scrounge up a resume and get a job from some asswipe who wants to take my VALUABLE skills while paying me as little as possible. then i have to give the government 1/3 of my paycheck (even though that does pay for nice services like police and roads and stuff).
all the while, i have to fill out PAPERWORK!!!
the point i'm trying to make is, humans aren't meant to live like this!!!!!!!! FILLING OUT PAPERWORK AFTER PAPERWORK!!! OVER AND OVER!! FORMS AND FORMS AND FORMS!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAH :cry:
Who says, you HAVE to do it?
You could become a monk in tibet. Or you could discover something u really, really like. You do it more often and at some point discover u r so good at it, u can earn money with it.
Or, you could mindfuck your parents, for a start. Or just tell them to FUCK OFF.
Do YOU WANT to go to college after all??? Or is it only your parents?
And you don't know the future. Perhaps something will happen.
U could die, your parents could die, you could win lotto, find the love of your live, whatever it is Eris has for you.
DON'T PLAN THE FUTURE.
AND STOP WORRYING, FOR GODDES SAKE.
You never know. NEVER. KNOW. YOU.
ENJOY LIFE!!!!!
Enjoy life while you can. No one gets out alive!
Ahhrg..
Slarti, I'm in the same boat as you. The stage in every teenagers life when the powers-that-be begin to stress the importance of becoming a "productive memeber of society" by systematically attempting to freak out us young folk with the "responsibility" of our "duties".
Fuck that. Maybe when I get sick of finding new and interesting ways to enjoy myself I'll join everyone else in holding up the pillars of civilization. Until then, thank Eris there are enough greyfaces around to keep to beast running smoothly, so I don't have to.
Silly Lyall, logging in is for kids.
yeah you guys are right. i think i want to be a sociologist. is there any money in that? or maybe just a psychologist. or a ninja
I got over that when I realised that none of them know what they are 'supposed' to be doing either. For most people, the path of least resistance is whatever they were last told to do (by someone else that didn't know what they were 'supposed' to be doing) and they repeat it to themselves often enough that it becomes a self-justifying faux-truth.
One of the common threads that successful people seem to have is that they do stuff 'cause it is what the want to do, not 'cause they were told to.
Now, if I could only figure out what I actaully want to do...
i just want to sit around try to figure out stuff.
i guess that's philosophy...
Quote from: Slartibartfasti do. we can't just sit here and play word games and complain and then not try to do anything about it.
MINDFUCKS DO NOT WORK PEOPLE!!! NOBODY CARES!!! they'll just flip away to the sports section of the newspaper, thinking 'what weirdos, i'm glad i'm normal.'
MIND FUCKS DO NOT WORK
*shaking head in disappointment/digust* obviously u didn't "get it"
--u need to stop taking life and everything so seriously
--it(discordianism)'s not about the "mindfucks" or who can be the funniest or most obscure; it's about being able to laugh off all the bullshit that goes on in this world, like "turning lemons to lemonade" i guess (ok, lame example i know, but i lack other examples at the moment)
Here, take a lesson from the hippies *hands slartibartfast a blunt* CHIIIIILLLLLLL..... 8) (or should i say peeeace? :lol: )
Quote from: Slartibartfasti do. we can't just sit here and play word games and complain and then not try to do anything about it.
MINDFUCKS DO NOT WORK PEOPLE!!! NOBODY CARES!!! they'll just flip away to the sports section of the newspaper, thinking 'what weirdos, i'm glad i'm normal.'
MIND FUCKS DO NOT WORK
1. I've been saying that for years.
2. When was the last time you TRIED a mind fuck?
3. There are brands without caffiene that taste just as good.
Nothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
hear hear...
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I think it's dangerous when discordians go to college.
I'm quite certain it is.
speaking of which I start summer quarter.
today?
up here june 21st
you taking any interesting classes?
I hope not...
okay.........why?
then people will want to talk to me about school and not about things that i find interesting( wants to become a teacher not talk about going to school)
No no no.......I meant any classes that you find interesting.
Who cares if other people do?
I liked school when the classes were useful and/or fun, but dreaded the dull stuff.
I find everything interesting... it's a blessing.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you just whispered to that girl standing next to you.
Could you repeat it?
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI'm sorry, I didn't hear what you just whispered to that girl standing next to you.
Could you repeat it?
why do girls always what you ask someone else when they want to get together with you?!?!?
I don't know, why do they?
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
computer solitaire.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
computer solitaire.
should have noticed the cards earlier...
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
computer solitaire.
should have noticed the cards earlier...
Are you going to quote everything I say from now on?
Don't you trussssst me?
PS: it's all in the cards.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
computer solitaire.
should have noticed the cards earlier...
Are you going to quote everything I say from now on?
Don't you trussssst me?
PS: it's all in the cards.
with a girl like you I can't trust myself
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI don't know, why do they?
what kind of game are you playing?!?!?
computer solitaire.
should have noticed the cards earlier...
Are you going to quote everything I say from now on?
Don't you trussssst me?
PS: it's all in the cards.
with a girl like you I can't trust myself
I never trust myself under any circumstances.
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
Quote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
That's right. I meant that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably choose the one with caffeine. I had of course never once entertained the thought that someone would actually waste perfectly good caffeine by putting it in a pile of dog shit. :shock:
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
That's right. I meant that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably choose the one with caffeine. I had of course never once entertained the thought that someone would actually waste perfectly good caffeine by putting it in a pile of dog shit. :shock:
well if you had only those choices you'd definitely take the one with more nutritive value... :lol:
Quote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
That's right. I meant that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably choose the one with caffeine. I had of course never once entertained the thought that someone would actually waste perfectly good caffeine by putting it in a pile of dog shit. :shock:
well if you had only those choices you'd definitely take the one with more nutritive value... :lol:
Not me. I'd just do without. I'm a zombie and don't need nutrition anyway.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
That's right. I meant that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably choose the one with caffeine. I had of course never once entertained the thought that someone would actually waste perfectly good caffeine by putting it in a pile of dog shit. :shock:
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot... I try to change that by only makeing up anecdotal evidence.
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomNothing without caffeine tastes as good as anything with caffeine.
I disagree... A friend of mine who at the time was a chemistry major put some caffeine in a pile of dog shit and also offered another freind of ours a choice of caffeinated shit or a glass of Orange juice...
I do believe she mean that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably chose the one with caffeine...
That's right. I meant that if you had two piles of substance "X" and you put caffeine in one and gave people the choice of one or the other they would probably choose the one with caffeine. I had of course never once entertained the thought that someone would actually waste perfectly good caffeine by putting it in a pile of dog shit. :shock:
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot... I try to change that by only makeing up anecdotal evidence.
Wow! I knew the number of made up statistics was high, but had no idea it was
that high. :shock:
I't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
It's exactly 72%. Go ahead, look it up.
I lost my book of spurious facts, so I can't look it up, Medeo. :evil:
72% sounds just about right to me, though.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
not that many around here unfortunatly
All quotes are made up...
...by somebody.
"Past John is always fucking with my program. So I've decided to get back at Future John by fucking with his program."
-(Present) John B., just some guy I know.
-CF
Quote from: Colonel FailureAll quotes are made up...
...by somebody.
"Past John is always fucking with my program. So I've decided to get back at Future John by fucking with his program."
-(Present) John B., just some guy I know.
-CF
thanks for this info ... Was this in reference to the statement about spurious qoutes?!?!?
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
not that many around here unfortunatly
yeah, it was directed at this bit here.
Quote from: Colonel FailureQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
not that many around here unfortunatly
yeah, it was directed at this bit here.
So you know what spurious means huh?!?!?
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: Colonel FailureQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
not that many around here unfortunatly
yeah, it was directed at this bit here.
So you know what spurious means huh?!?!?
Well, yeah.
spu¬?ri¬?ous
adj.
1. Lacking authenticity or validity in essence or origin; not genuine; false.
2. Of illegitimate birth.
3. (Botany.) Similar in appearance but unlike in structure or function. Used of plant parts.
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[From Late Latin spurius, from Latin, illegitimate, probably of Etruscan origin.]
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spuri¬?ous¬?ly adv.
spuri¬?ous¬?ness n.
Point being, once somebody says it or writes it, it's a genuine quote. Technically, it would only be spurious if you attributed it to someone
other than the person who said it.
"My son, ask for thyself another kingdom, for that which I leave is too small for thee."
- George Herbert Walker Bush
Now
that's a spurious quote.
Quote from: Colonel FailureQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: Colonel FailureQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisQuote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisI't even higher depending on the humor of the guy makeing the statistic up...
I was wondering if you also happen to know what percentage of spurious quotes are made up?
not that many around here unfortunatly
yeah, it was directed at this bit here.
So you know what spurious means huh?!?!?
Well, yeah.
spu¬?ri¬?ous
adj.
1. Lacking authenticity or validity in essence or origin; not genuine; false.
2. Of illegitimate birth.
3. (Botany.) Similar in appearance but unlike in structure or function. Used of plant parts.
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[From Late Latin spurius, from Latin, illegitimate, probably of Etruscan origin.]
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spuri¬?ous¬?ly adv.
spuri¬?ous¬?ness n.
Point being, once somebody says it or writes it, it's a genuine quote. Technically, it would only be spurious if you attributed it to someone other than the person who said it.
"My son, ask for thyself another kingdom, for that which I leave is too small for thee."
- George Herbert Walker Bush
Now that's a spurious quote.
well what i was talking about was there was not enough spurious qoutes around here... you seemed to be talking about something else.
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferiswell what i was talking about was there was not enough spurious qoutes around here... you seemed to be talking about something else.
Oh.
*confused*
Hail Eris!
AhemLemme see if I can help with that spurious quote deficiency...
"Make the Most of the Hemp Seed. Sow it everywhere."
-John Ashcroft
Is that better?
Quote from: Colonel FailureQuote from: chaosgraves:agentoferiswell what i was talking about was there was not enough spurious qoutes around here... you seemed to be talking about something else.
Oh.
*confused*
Hail Eris!
Ahem
Lemme see if I can help with that spurious quote deficiency...
"Make the Most of the Hemp Seed. Sow it everywhere."
-John Ashcroft
Is that better?
I like that one....for now!