Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Zombie Space Chicken on December 05, 2003, 08:56:08 pm

Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Zombie Space Chicken on December 05, 2003, 08:56:08 pm
I'm currently in the middle of a book by Hakim Bey called "T.A.Z.: The Temporary Autonomous Zone, Ontological Anarchy, Poetic Terrorism."
I have found this book to be one of the most brilliant writings that I have read in quite some time. Especially the section with Chaos:The Broadsheets of Ontological Anarchism.
Anyone else read this book? Can anyone recommend anything else that he has written?
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Slarti on December 05, 2003, 10:54:58 pm
i've looked over it, it looks really cool. can someone explain this 'ontological anarchism' thing?
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Horab Fibslager on December 05, 2003, 11:09:47 pm
Quote from: Slarti the Name Changer !
i've looked over it, it looks really cool. can someone explain this 'ontological anarchism' thing?


it is all invariably bullshit. hakim bey is one of those blasted futurists.

death to all of em i say!
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: EvilPoet on December 06, 2003, 05:55:45 pm
Quote from: Chickenslayer
Can anyone recommend anything else that he has written?

The Writings of Hakim Bey (http://www.hermetic.com/bey/)

Quote from: Slarti the Name Changer !
can someone explain this 'ontological anarchism' thing?

Ontological Anarchy in a Nutshell (http://deoxy.org/hakim/ontologicalanarchy.htm)
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Slarti on December 06, 2003, 06:19:47 pm
that's supremely awesome. thanks evil poet!
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: EvilPoet on December 06, 2003, 09:36:39 pm
You're very welcome Slarti!
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on December 09, 2003, 03:10:50 am
http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/hakimbey.htm

Check that site out. It has most of Bey's work. And most of it is kopyleft (k).

For alternative news from the USA check out:  http://www.voxfux.com/

They have links to other such sites.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: eumaas on December 09, 2003, 09:32:05 pm
What? NAMBLA Bey? I've never liked any of his stuff.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Caliko on December 10, 2003, 01:54:25 am
isn't Hakim Bey one of Robert Anton Wilson's many pseudonyms?
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Lord_Caramac on December 10, 2003, 01:59:16 pm
Quote from: Caliko
isn't Hakim Bey one of Robert Anton Wilson's many pseudonyms?


Nobody really knows who Hakim Bey is. It doesn't really matter. I like some of his T.A.Z. ideas.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2003, 06:19:52 pm
I dunno...anyone that R.A. Wilson calls "a Blake angel on bad acid" was definitely worth a read. Even though I don't like to believe anything I read, I still found it well worth reading just for the inspiration it gave me and the ideas I got from it.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Zombie Space Chicken on December 10, 2003, 06:21:25 pm
Dammit....forgot to log in...the above was obviously me...
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: EvilPoet on December 10, 2003, 08:30:12 pm
AFAIK - Hakim Bey is also known as Peter Lamborn Wilson.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Caliko on December 10, 2003, 10:31:17 pm
I think Robert Shea and RAW are the same person, and that RAW is one of the two authors of the Principia.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Horab Fibslager on December 11, 2003, 12:04:48 am
naw, raw is one of the members of the illuminati(chicago or berkely chapter) with whom a conspiracy was made by greg hill and kerry thornley(et al) for no particular reason. he may or may not be mad malik from the illuminati letter on page 00072, tho i don think so cuz raw wrote himself into the illuminatus! trilogy btu i don;t think as malik. he also wrote hismelf into the shrodinger's cat trilogy, but it's more obvious in each universe who he is(as opposed to illuminatus!)

robert shea is a different person as well, as evidenced by his seperate bibliography.

the pd was written mostly by greg hill, cept for what he ripped off from others, tho he gets the credit for writing it for having put it all together(notice it's malaclypse the younger's name on teh cover, and not anyone else)
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Ignatz Ratskiwatski on January 09, 2004, 03:54:41 pm
loutrewqaaaasdfvbmn,,,,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000GB0/qid%3D1073660471/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-2473290-0256768
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Slarti on February 17, 2004, 01:14:08 am
http://www.incunabula.org/MP3/#TAZ


4 mp3s that are realllly big that are realllly good. it's a radio interview with Hakim, and then some show he did in '93 that is really good. you definitely need to listen to this stuff.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: EvilPoet on February 20, 2004, 01:52:31 am
Quote from: Slarti las Papas Fritas
http://www.incunabula.org/MP3/#TAZ

4 mp3s that are realllly big that are realllly good. it's a radio interview with Hakim, and then some show he did in '93 that is really good. you definitely need to listen to this stuff.

Thank you for posting this, I enjoyed it very much. Lots
of humor and food for thought. I agree, definitely worth
a listen. :D
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Slarti on February 20, 2004, 01:49:40 pm
np, you drop awesome links all the time too. that is very good though. very thought provoking, i didn't really enjoy the semi-erotic poetry in the middle though. RAW did a great job, as did Hakim.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Tallgeese on March 21, 2004, 02:59:53 am
I got a copy of TAZ as well. There are some interesting things, but his attempts to fit his pedophilia in with his philosophy stick out horribly. He's got some really great ideas, but he's rather incoherent at times. He's no Mal, that's for damn sure.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 21, 2004, 03:01:37 am
I think he wrote his pedophilia piece with Jacko in mind.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Tallgeese on March 21, 2004, 03:02:54 am
perhaps Hakim Bey is Michael Jackson!
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 21, 2004, 03:03:52 am
Quote from: Tallgeese
perhaps Hakim Bey is Michael Jackson!


Nope. Jacko isn't that poetic.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Tallgeese on March 21, 2004, 03:04:55 am
Maybe Jacko's got a cerebral inhibitor when he's in human form, as not to give away any alien characteristics until his final unveiling.
Title: Hakim Bey
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 21, 2004, 03:05:51 am
That could be.