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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Cain on June 10, 2008, 08:05:43 am

Title: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2008, 08:05:43 am
http://paranoidlinux.org/

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Paranoid Linux is an operating system that assumes that its operator is under assault from the government (it was intended for use by Chinese and Syrian dissidents), and it does everything it can to keep your communications and documents a secret. It even throws up a bunch of "chaff" communications that are supposed to disguise the fact that you're doing anything covert. So while you're receiving a political message one character at a time, ParanoidLinux is pretending to surf the Web and fill in questionnaires and flirt in chat-rooms. Meanwhile, one in every five hundred characters you receive is your real message, a needle buried in a huge haystack.
~Cory Doctorow (Little Brother, 2008)

When those words were written, ParanoidLinux was just a fiction. It is our goal to make this a reality. The project officially started on May 14th, and has been growing ever since. We welcome your ideas, contributions, designs, or code. You can find us on freenode's irc server in the #paranoidlinux channel. Hope to see you there!

I think the above quote explains it pretty well.

You can download Cory Doctorow's book here (http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/) if you want to know more.  Its not necessary, but it is a good book, and he is encouraging people to share it.  I also think something along the lines of Paranoid Linux has potential, even though it is Linux.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 10, 2008, 02:32:42 pm
http://paranoidlinux.org/

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Paranoid Linux is an operating system that assumes that its operator is under assault from the government (it was intended for use by Chinese and Syrian dissidents), and it does everything it can to keep your communications and documents a secret. It even throws up a bunch of "chaff" communications that are supposed to disguise the fact that you're doing anything covert. So while you're receiving a political message one character at a time, ParanoidLinux is pretending to surf the Web and fill in questionnaires and flirt in chat-rooms. Meanwhile, one in every five hundred characters you receive is your real message, a needle buried in a huge haystack.
~Cory Doctorow (Little Brother, 2008)

When those words were written, ParanoidLinux was just a fiction. It is our goal to make this a reality. The project officially started on May 14th, and has been growing ever since. We welcome your ideas, contributions, designs, or code. You can find us on freenode's irc server in the #paranoidlinux channel. Hope to see you there!

I think the above quote explains it pretty well.

You can download Cory Doctorow's book here (http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/) if you want to know more.  Its not necessary, but it is a good book, and he is encouraging people to share it.  I also think something along the lines of Paranoid Linux has potential, even though it is Linux.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited by this project... I hope it turns into actual code.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Richter on June 10, 2008, 03:21:28 pm
It's an intersting idea.  Good find!
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 10, 2008, 05:06:27 pm
I can't get the page to load. :(
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 11, 2008, 11:15:57 am
I can't get the page to load. :(

Paranoid Linux fears you :lulz:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 11, 2008, 05:25:12 pm
I can't get the page to load. :(

Paranoid Linux fears you :lulz:
:lulz:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Richter on June 11, 2008, 05:50:31 pm
I keep expecting this to go straight into Pratchett land:

"The operating system was so secure and secretive that it removed all traces of itself as soon as installed.  It would then stand by in case the user might possibly ever need to do something secretive, and then only after several code words in dead languages and a quarter cup of the user's blood had been presented as verification.  Otherwise, it would stew quietly and try to appear as much like a normal terminal as possible.  At least until it finished re-wiring itself a cloaking device. 
Normal useage was horribly slow and obtuse, and influenced early itterations of 'Windows'."
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 11, 2008, 05:53:09 pm
I can't get the page to load. :(

Paranoid Linux fears you :lulz:

NIGEL IS A REPTAR SHILL!
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 12, 2008, 01:20:31 pm
Paranoid Linux makes me think of Skynet in the terminator movies.

14:00hrs: Paranoid Linux sees all humans as a threat and launches a pre emptive strike against us  :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: LMNO on June 19, 2008, 06:00:11 pm
I keep expecting this to go straight into Pratchett land:

"The operating system was so secure and secretive that it removed all traces of itself as soon as installed.  It would then stand by in case the user might possibly ever need to do something secretive, and then only after several code words in dead languages and a quarter cup of the user's blood had been presented as verification.  Otherwise, it would stew quietly and try to appear as much like a normal terminal as possible.  At least until it finished re-wiring itself a cloaking device. 
Normal useage was horribly slow and obtuse, and influenced early itterations of 'Windows'."

That's fucking brilliant, by the way.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: PeregrineBF on June 30, 2008, 07:30:09 am
Install Freenet and TrackMeNot for Firefox. Mostly done.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 04, 2008, 11:43:42 pm
I'm always amazed at the number of people who think those are working just because they installed them.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: PeregrineBF on July 05, 2008, 12:22:47 am
Ok, install, turn on, configure, and use. And set up I2P and TOR for normal web browsing as well. Also, make sure your firewall is configured properly, use Mobloquer/Peer Guardian, and encrypt everything. Pidgin-otr for your instant messages, GPG for e-mail. Web sites are harder, of course, so encourage website admins to enable HTTPS, even just a self-signed cert is good.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 05, 2008, 07:50:17 am
Tor is so goddamned slow I'd rather just bicycle there and say it in person.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: nostalgicBadger on July 05, 2008, 10:11:04 pm
Maybe it's the German in me, but I find the potential (likely) inefficiency of something like this appalling. How much bandwidth and system resources are being wasted when no government is going to care about most of the people using this anyway?
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: PeregrineBF on July 06, 2008, 01:37:23 am
A lot. Promoting universal encryption is a better strategy. *nudges Faust* I require encryption for my e-mail and IMs, I eagerly await the day I can do so with web browsing as well.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Reginald Ret on May 21, 2009, 10:02:59 pm
Link dead, but so is the topic.


Bump for the purpose of annoyance.

related:
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Hat_Linux
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_Hat_Linux
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 22, 2009, 06:07:41 am
Paranoid Linux is teh dead? :x
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Reginald Ret on May 22, 2009, 07:38:39 am
No, its just hiding.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: l1l_g4m3r5 on November 03, 2010, 02:21:04 pm
http://paranoidlinux.org/

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Paranoid Linux is an operating system that assumes that its operator is under assault from the government (it was intended for use by Chinese and Syrian dissidents), and it does everything it can to keep your communications and documents a secret. It even throws up a bunch of "chaff" communications that are supposed to disguise the fact that you're doing anything covert. So while you're receiving a political message one character at a time, ParanoidLinux is pretending to surf the Web and fill in questionnaires and flirt in chat-rooms. Meanwhile, one in every five hundred characters you receive is your real message, a needle buried in a huge haystack.
~Cory Doctorow (Little Brother, 2008)

"I cant acess the site do i need anything to acess it".

When those words were written, ParanoidLinux was just a fiction. It is our goal to make this a reality. The project officially started on May 14th, and has been growing ever since. We welcome your ideas, contributions, designs, or code. You can find us on freenode's irc server in the #paranoidlinux channel. Hope to see you there!

I think the above quote explains it pretty well.

You can download Cory Doctorow's book here (http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/) if you want to know more.  Its not necessary, but it is a good book, and he is encouraging people to share it.  I also think something along the lines of Paranoid Linux has potential, even though it is Linux.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 03, 2010, 02:47:46 pm
http://paranoidlinux.org/

Quote
Paranoid Linux is an operating system that assumes that its operator is under assault from the government (it was intended for use by Chinese and Syrian dissidents), and it does everything it can to keep your communications and documents a secret. It even throws up a bunch of "chaff" communications that are supposed to disguise the fact that you're doing anything covert. So while you're receiving a political message one character at a time, ParanoidLinux is pretending to surf the Web and fill in questionnaires and flirt in chat-rooms. Meanwhile, one in every five hundred characters you receive is your real message, a needle buried in a huge haystack.
~Cory Doctorow (Little Brother, 2008)

When those words were written, ParanoidLinux was just a fiction. It is our goal to make this a reality. The project officially started on May 14th, and has been growing ever since. We welcome your ideas, contributions, designs, or code. You can find us on freenode's irc server in the #paranoidlinux channel. Hope to see you there!

I think the above quote explains it pretty well.

You can download Cory Doctorow's book here (http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/) if you want to know more.  Its not necessary, but it is a good book, and he is encouraging people to share it.  I also think something along the lines of Paranoid Linux has potential, even though it is Linux.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Cain on November 03, 2010, 02:51:49 pm
Yes, God forbid some of us are tired with evangelizing Linux using assholes.

What was I thinking?  Oh yeah, that I'm tired of evangelizing Linux-using assholes.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 03, 2010, 02:59:18 pm
Yes, God forbid some of us are tired with evangelizing Linux using assholes.

What was I thinking?  Oh yeah, that I'm tired of evangelizing Linux-using assholes.

I'm not saying Linux evangelists aren't annoying (they are) but to disparage the OS just because it's used by assholes is a bit short-sighted, really. 90% of the planet's assholes use Windows, but when I disparage Windows it's because it's an unstable, insecure, unsafe, crash-prone, backdoor-ridden heap of antiquated crap, not because the people who use it are either smugly mainstream or herded like cattle into a platform there are better alternatives for. I mean, it isn't really Windows' fault that people are stupid enough to use it, and it isn't Linux' fault that its users are assholes. Debate the platforms, or debate the users. Debating the platform because of the users is like saying Jesus Christ was an asshole just because Fred Phelps is.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Triple Zero on November 03, 2010, 03:55:31 pm
ANYWAY, Liam is correct, "Paranoid Linux" is pretty much vapourware. It's just mentioned in the story, some people started building it but never finished the job.

There is, however, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_Hat_Linux

But that's only the first one I came across. There's a zillion different bunch of Linux distros out there, and some of them are probably bolted damn tight. If you're serious about the security, checking these out and comparing the features should also give you a good idea what sort of things various distros think is important qua security, and especially which security features are most relevant to your particular situation.

For instance complete/total security is impossible or at least really really hard. So, think of a few use cases that you want to defend against. Also mind that TrueCrypt's plausible deniability feature might be hella cool and superclever, if it's going to get you tortured to death just to be sure you burped up the key to the last layer of nested hidden encrypted volumes, you might have wanted to go with a steganographical approach and possibly save yourself some agony.

On the other hand, if it's just for shits and giggles and because "Paranoid Linux" sounds cool, I think "Tinfoil Hat Linux" should suffice ;-)

Others:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives/Ubuntu%20Privacy%20Remix
http://polippix.org/
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on November 03, 2010, 05:11:07 pm
I prefer Damn Vulnerable Linux (http://www.damnvulnerablelinux.org/) myself.

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Damn Vulnerable Linux (DVL) is everything a good Linux distribution isn't. Its developers have spent hours stuffing it with broken, ill-configured, outdated, and exploitable software that makes it vulnerable to attacks.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Triple Zero on November 03, 2010, 05:28:45 pm
:lulz:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Jasper on November 03, 2010, 07:18:40 pm
I love the thought of what an incredible asshole you would have to be to even have that idea. :lulz:
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: GIGGLES on November 04, 2010, 03:15:23 am
CORY DOCTOROW FAIL?

NOOOOOOOO... FOR SRS?

I AM SHOCKED! SHOCKED!
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Epic Programmer on April 02, 2015, 01:30:54 pm
I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2015, 05:45:03 am
I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)

Best first post ever.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: hirley0 on April 03, 2015, 05:56:45 am
wav 305 (http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/audio/MeD/VIR0402B.WAV)

I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)

Best first post ever.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: hirley0 on April 03, 2015, 05:57:55 am
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Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: hirley0 on April 03, 2015, 06:00:05 am
a D 
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2015, 12:13:36 pm
I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)

Project died, I'm afraid.

You could always look at Tinfoil Hat Linux (developed in 2002 though...), Pirate Linux (https://piratelinux.org/) or TAILS (https://tails.boum.org/).
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 18, 2015, 03:04:12 am
Awesome concept though
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: hirley0 on June 03, 2015, 10:30:53 pm
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Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: hirley0 on June 03, 2015, 10:31:45 pm
ad 54581

wav 305 (http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/audio/MeD/VIR0402B.WAV)

I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)

Best first post ever.
Title: Re: Paranoid Linux project
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 04, 2015, 05:10:23 am
ad 54581

wav 305 (http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/audio/MeD/VIR0402B.WAV)

I am so phsyced by this! I can't wait for this to happen!
 :)

Best first post ever.

Yay, Nop is back!