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Principia Discordia => Propaganda Depository => GASM Command => Topic started by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 05:59:36 pm

Title: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 05:59:36 pm
http://ifile.it/zs0wybu

This is a pdf sheet of address label-sized stickers (Avery 8660). Half of them say "Most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" and the other half say "Most women secretly hate men, and most men secretly think they deserve it."


Print these out, and put them up all over the goddamn place. Then report back with stories of how being exposed to this idea has caused men to devolve into women-haters.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 11, 2009, 06:02:19 pm
You're an asshole.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: fomenter on August 11, 2009, 06:04:11 pm
 :lulz:
http://ifile.it/zs0wybu

This is a pdf sheet of address label-sized stickers (Avery 8660). Half of them say "Most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" and the other half say "Most women secretly hate men, and most men secretly think they deserve it."


Print these out, and put them up all over the goddamn place. Then report back with stories of how being exposed to this idea has caused men to devolve into women-haters.
:mittens:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 06:05:53 pm
You're an asshole.

And you're a moron who likes the sound of his own thinking too much.

Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 11, 2009, 06:07:02 pm
You're a moron.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 11, 2009, 06:07:50 pm
NO YUO!

Well, this is a stirring debate.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 06:09:25 pm
You're a moron.

hurrr



Come on, it's no fun when both of us do it. You're not even trying anymore.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 11, 2009, 06:10:37 pm
http://ifile.it/zs0wybu

This is a pdf sheet of address label-sized stickers (Avery 8660). Half of them say "Most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" and the other half say "Most women secretly hate men, and most men secretly think they deserve it."


Print these out, and put them up all over the goddamn place. Then report back with stories of how being exposed to this idea has caused men to devolve into women-haters.

Look out Portland, here I come with my dangerous memes!  :lulz:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 06:11:44 pm
I have observed and interesting phenomena:

Of all the people who have been exposed to the meme, "most men hate women, and most women think they deserve it," nearly every single one have ended up hating fictionpuss.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2009, 06:12:40 pm
11/12ths of fictionpuss deserve it
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 06:14:50 pm
Fucking hell, let's get scientific on this shit.

Anybody who puts these up should get the figures on domestic violence in their area before they put up the stickers, and then a month after.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Verbal Mike on August 11, 2009, 06:29:34 pm
Cainad, unless you make stickering your full-time job, statistical fluctuation will make any effect meaningless. This would only make sense if it's a VERY CONCENTRATED effort of several people over a limited area and a long span of time (say, a year or five), and I don't think anyone here hates fictionpuss quite that bad.

Umm, I mean, DO EEEET!!! FOR SCIENCE!!!!
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 11, 2009, 06:35:36 pm
Cainad, unless you make stickering your full-time job, statistical fluctuation will make any effect meaningless. This would only make sense if it's a VERY CONCENTRATED effort of several people over a limited area and a long span of time (say, a year or five), and I don't think anyone here hates fictionpuss quite that bad.

Umm, I mean, DO EEEET!!! FOR SCIENCE!!!!
If you work in a cake factory, and piss herpes into the cake mix, can you measure the over the statistical fluctuation? No.

Is that a reason/excuse to go ahead and do it anyway because of your inability to measure the results of your actions? No.

Spreading bad ideas is a bad idea.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Verbal Mike on August 11, 2009, 06:42:10 pm
Way to miss the point. Cainad suggested doing science on this. I pointed out a methodological problem with that. End of story.

Also, this memebomb will do more good than bad, if it does anything at all, and you have a very very strange world-view.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Elder Iptuous on August 11, 2009, 06:42:53 pm
Spreading bad ideas is a bad idea.

what?!
pffft.
laem  :|
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 06:51:42 pm
Ideas are not actions.


I really hope I don't have to clarify this any further.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 11, 2009, 07:02:10 pm
Cainad, unless you make stickering your full-time job, statistical fluctuation will make any effect meaningless. This would only make sense if it's a VERY CONCENTRATED effort of several people over a limited area and a long span of time (say, a year or five), and I don't think anyone here hates fictionpuss quite that bad.

 :kingmeh: ...

Umm, I mean, DO EEEET!!! FOR SCIENCE!!!!

:banana:  :mrgreen:

(http://www.jacksofscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mad_scientist.gif)
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 11, 2009, 07:05:17 pm
Way to miss the point. Cainad suggested doing science on this. I pointed out a methodological problem with that. End of story.
I think it's relevant - until such time as models exist which can accurately predict the impact of meme - everything is shades of hypothetical opinion. Maybe the moon is made out of cheese, and maybe reading this will make you kick your granny. The probability of either of those events being true seems so low that it's not really interesting to talk about.

Also, this memebomb will do more good than bad, if it does anything at all,

Prove it or retract your statement.

and you have a very very strange world-view.
I know :-/
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2009, 07:07:38 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 07:07:56 pm
until such time as models exist which can accurately predict the impact of meme - everything is shades of hypothetical opinion.


...And for some reason, you feel your hypothetical opinion is somehow "better" than ours...
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 07:08:30 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.


BRB, gotta go make a lampshade out of a Jew.














Hey, what the--- MEMES!
 :argh!:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Verbal Mike on August 11, 2009, 07:10:47 pm
So... where in the world are there five spags who live within fifteen minutes' walking from one another and are crazy enough to pull this off?

@Fictionpuss: how about you prove your claims that this is harmful? My opinion (not claim or statement of supposed fact) is that this won't make any difference but *might* cause some spags to reasses the way they interact with people. Yours is apparently that people who see this memebomb are likely to become more misogynistic because of it - a much stronger assertion. Also, mine is just my opinion, and I'm not going to tell anybody what to do or not do because of it. Nor am I going to spend any time "proving it". Suck it. Unscientific fuckwit.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2009, 07:12:56 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.


BRB, gotta go make a lampshade out of a Jew.














Hey, what the--- MEMES!
 :argh!:

Incidentally, that idea came to mind not (just) to get to Godwin's Law as quickly as possible, but because I got most of my books on Nazism, fascism, right-wing extremism, Marxism, Communism and anarchist terrorism from a very excellent torrent called "Bad Ideologies".

Also, it would kind of put me out of any possible future work, since my main skill is analysing, dissecting and theorizing on some very bad ideas indeed.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Verbal Mike on August 11, 2009, 07:15:36 pm
On a slightly more serious note, this kind of thinking about dangerous memes is itself incredibly dangerous. Cf. case of that guy Hicham who got (or was going to get?) deported from the UK for studying CIA (?) material on terrorism... If we can't be allowed to deal with dangerous ideas because they're too dangerous, they ironically become much more powerful and capable of causing harm.

(The above is my subjective opinion and I'm not going to cite or "prove" anything, ever. In fact, this is going in my sig now.)
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 11, 2009, 07:18:15 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.
Actually, I don't believe anything close to that. Although it would certainly be funnier if I did. So I'll leave it at then then.

Goodbye, cruel thread!
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2009, 07:20:37 pm
Not sure if its the same guy, but I know a student at Nottingham is getting deported to Algeria.  He was, like me, studying terrorism, and, like everyone who studies terrorism, read the 1996 Al-Qaeda manual, hosted on the US Department of Justice's website.  Unlike everyone else who studies terrorism, he was then accused of accessing "terrorist material", thrown in a cell for several weeks, and is now being forced to leave the country.

Because god forbid we have an expert on terrorism who is a Muslim.  He might prove the clash of the civilizations and the naive idea that Islam is uniquely violent as a crock of shit.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Rod Stewart on August 11, 2009, 07:21:17 pm
I'm gonna put a bunch of these on me tourbus. 

Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2009, 07:21:34 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.
Actually, I don't believe anything close to that. Although it would certainly be funnier if I did. So I'll leave it at then then.

Goodbye, cruel thread!

So you don't believe Nazism is a bad idea, then?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Jenne on August 11, 2009, 07:28:08 pm
Not sure if its the same guy, but I know a student at Nottingham is getting deported to Algeria.  He was, like me, studying terrorism, and, like everyone who studies terrorism, read the 1996 Al-Qaeda manual, hosted on the US Department of Justice's website.  Unlike everyone else who studies terrorism, he was then accused of accessing "terrorist material", thrown in a cell for several weeks, and is now being forced to leave the country.

Because god forbid we have an expert on terrorism who is a Muslim.  He might prove the clash of the civilizations and the naive idea that Islam is uniquely violent as a crock of shit.

My brother-in-law direct from Afghanistan-by-way-of-Pakistan now wants to go to UC Santa Barbara to study poli sci IR...times could get interesting for that little fuck soon enough.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on August 11, 2009, 07:30:42 pm
So according to fictionpuss, spreading ideas about Nazism is bad....even if this is in history textbooks telling us how terrible Nazism is.
Actually, I don't believe anything close to that. Although it would certainly be funnier if I did. So I'll leave it at then then.

Goodbye, cruel thread!

So you don't believe Nazism is a bad idea, then?


 :lulz:


We need a Groucho Marx "You Bet Your Life" smiley.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Richter on August 11, 2009, 07:33:47 pm
Not sure if its the same guy, but I know a student at Nottingham is getting deported to Algeria.  He was, like me, studying terrorism, and, like everyone who studies terrorism, read the 1996 Al-Qaeda manual, hosted on the US Department of Justice's website.  Unlike everyone else who studies terrorism, he was then accused of accessing "terrorist material", thrown in a cell for several weeks, and is now being forced to leave the country.

Isn't that entrapment?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Verbal Mike on August 11, 2009, 07:56:56 pm
Not sure if its the same guy, but I know a student at Nottingham is getting deported to Algeria.  He was, like me, studying terrorism, and, like everyone who studies terrorism, read the 1996 Al-Qaeda manual, hosted on the US Department of Justice's website.  Unlike everyone else who studies terrorism, he was then accused of accessing "terrorist material", thrown in a cell for several weeks, and is now being forced to leave the country.

Isn't that entrapment?
Pff, this is wartime! We don't have time for legalistic bickering!
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cain on August 12, 2009, 06:13:16 am
My brother-in-law direct from Afghanistan-by-way-of-Pakistan now wants to go to UC Santa Barbara to study poli sci IR...times could get interesting for that little fuck soon enough.

Could be.  Usually though, terrorism tends to be its own department, or at least only loosely associated with IR, since there is very little real theoretical crossover between it and IR theory.  If they study criminology or deviant psychology there, it might easily come under those fields instead.

Isn't that entrapment?

No, because the DoJ isn't part of the UK government (yes, this was an American government website) and because he was reported by someone in the IT dept at the University.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Jenne on August 12, 2009, 09:35:33 pm
My brother-in-law direct from Afghanistan-by-way-of-Pakistan now wants to go to UC Santa Barbara to study poli sci IR...times could get interesting for that little fuck soon enough.

Could be.  Usually though, terrorism tends to be its own department, or at least only loosely associated with IR, since there is very little real theoretical crossover between it and IR theory.  If they study criminology or deviant psychology there, it might easily come under those fields instead.




Ah.  I haven't been a part of that department since '93, so I wouldn't know for sure.  I was fairly taken aback when he said he wanted to study there for that particular thing.  Having been poli sci IR for 3 years myself...just found it odd.  Some excellent professors there, though, and damn did I learn a lot.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: the last yatto on August 12, 2009, 10:48:22 pm
piss herpes into the cake mix

 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Pariah on August 12, 2009, 11:27:58 pm
Oh...
 :|
Another thread flaming fictionpuss...
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 17, 2009, 09:20:52 pm
It's not really flaming when everybody's just telling an idiot that they're an idiot.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 18, 2009, 01:08:38 am
I realize I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but god damn this thread makes me giggle. Yes, I know it's lame to laugh at your own thread when it went exactly the way you expected it to.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 18, 2009, 03:31:00 am
I realize I'm probably the only one who feels this way, but god damn this thread makes me giggle. Yes, I know it's lame to laugh at your own thread when it went exactly the way you expected it to.
You're not alone ;-)
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 18, 2009, 03:37:08 am
(http://frtim.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/thumbs-up.jpg)
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 23, 2009, 03:36:17 pm
 :lulz: Holy shit I forgot about this. Good times.

N00bs should piss me off more often; it moves me to create stuff.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Lord Quantum on January 06, 2010, 11:55:12 pm
Ideas are not actions.


I really hope I don't have to clarify this any further.


Actually, could you go to my (former) church and explain this concept in-depth? I said that in a meeting once and
was given a letter a week later informing me that I'm a heretic.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2010, 02:27:06 pm
Sure thing.  Where's it at?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Lord Quantum on January 07, 2010, 04:52:29 pm
3545 Chestnut Dr
Doraville, Ga 30340
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2010, 04:58:31 pm
Wait... a letter?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Iron Sulfide on January 07, 2010, 08:43:11 pm
srsly- your church members sent you a letter? you roll(ed) with some pretty mellow christians, it sounds like.

i had one guy almost beat my ass for saying that the resurrection and the virgin birth were the same metaphor.
he was mostly pissed that i said "metaphor".

Isn't irony wonderful?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Lord Quantum on January 09, 2010, 01:45:13 am
Yeah, in the Churches of Christ excommunication is done through what they call "Marking and Avoiding" which basically means that the leadership of your congregation informs you (and the rest of the congregation) that you are "walking disorderly". This announcement figuratively "marks" you as a heretic and lets everyone know that they should literally avoid all contact with you. Of course, since you have to be informed of this in person, they don't actually mail the letter to you. They read it aloud in a closed door meeting and then hand you the letter. And if you're loony enough to go to another Church of Christ you're supposed to tell the leaders there that you've been marked somewhere else so that can decide whether or not you're allowed to attend church with them.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Freeky on January 09, 2010, 02:17:52 am
Hah.  :lulz:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: BadBeast on April 21, 2010, 10:39:36 am
http://ifile.it/zs0wybu

This is a pdf sheet of address label-sized stickers (Avery 8660). Half of them say "Most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" and the other half say "Most women secretly hate men, and most men secretly think they deserve it."


Print these out, and put them up all over the goddamn place. Then report back with stories of how being exposed to this idea has caused men to devolve into women-haters.

What if the people exposed, are already misogynists? Does the idea reinforce their position?
Or make them more likely to examine their barely suppressed, but ultimately impotent need for sexual validation, from their recently deceased Mothers?  
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 21, 2010, 12:41:40 pm
Where the fuck did Fictionpuss get to anyway?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Triple Zero on April 21, 2010, 04:53:33 pm
I asked the same thing a little while ago, but nobody answered?

FICTIONPPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSS!!11
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 21, 2010, 04:56:36 pm
Did he ninja flounce?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Triple Zero on April 21, 2010, 04:58:13 pm
Maybe he was a government agent and his contract ended?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 21, 2010, 05:15:15 pm
Maybe he beat the noisy neighbours to a pulp and got arrested.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: BadBeast on April 21, 2010, 05:46:45 pm
Maybe he was a government agent and his contract ended?

With extreme prejudice, too, you know what those fuckers are like about contracts!
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 22, 2010, 04:38:03 pm
http://ifile.it/zs0wybu

This is a pdf sheet of address label-sized stickers (Avery 8660). Half of them say "Most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" and the other half say "Most women secretly hate men, and most men secretly think they deserve it."


Print these out, and put them up all over the goddamn place. Then report back with stories of how being exposed to this idea has caused men to devolve into women-haters.

What if the people exposed, are already misogynists? Does the idea reinforce their position?
Or make them more likely to examine their barely suppressed, but ultimately impotent need for sexual validation, from their recently deceased Mothers?  

I dunno, does it? And if it does, is it my fault?
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 05:19:00 pm
Cainad, unless you make stickering your full-time job, statistical fluctuation will make any effect meaningless. This would only make sense if it's a VERY CONCENTRATED effort of several people over a limited area and a long span of time (say, a year or five), and I don't think anyone here hates fictionpuss quite that bad.

Umm, I mean, DO EEEET!!! FOR SCIENCE!!!!
If you work in a cake factory, and piss herpes into the cake mix, can you measure the over the statistical fluctuation? No.

Is that a reason/excuse to go ahead and do it anyway because of your inability to measure the results of your actions? No.

Spreading bad ideas is a bad idea.

I disagree.  One of the oddest parts of the success of the civil rights movement was the TV show All in the Family, the central character of which was an apologist bigot.  He was made to look stupid, just by voicing the opinions of apologist-type bigots everywhere.  It made being a bigot look silly.  It worked.

For a half-hour a night, Monday through Friday, that show broadcast bad ideas.

And it moved race relations forward by about 20 years.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 07, 2011, 06:06:46 pm
<re-reads first page>

Man, I haven't been that big of an ass to anyone just to make my point in ages. :lulz:
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on February 07, 2011, 06:53:05 pm
<re-reads first page>

Man, I haven't been that big of an ass to anyone just to make my point in ages. :lulz:

Meh, I was probably asking for it.  The self-righteous shining knight routine gets old quick.
Bad Ideas!(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/poopeteer-knight.gif)Noooo!


Cainad, unless you make stickering your full-time job, statistical fluctuation will make any effect meaningless. This would only make sense if it's a VERY CONCENTRATED effort of several people over a limited area and a long span of time (say, a year or five), and I don't think anyone here hates fictionpuss quite that bad.

Umm, I mean, DO EEEET!!! FOR SCIENCE!!!!
If you work in a cake factory, and piss herpes into the cake mix, can you measure the over the statistical fluctuation? No.

Is that a reason/excuse to go ahead and do it anyway because of your inability to measure the results of your actions? No.

Spreading bad ideas is a bad idea.

I disagree.  One of the oddest parts of the success of the civil rights movement was the TV show All in the Family, the central character of which was an apologist bigot.  He was made to look stupid, just by voicing the opinions of apologist-type bigots everywhere.  It made being a bigot look silly.  It worked.

For a half-hour a night, Monday through Friday, that show broadcast bad ideas.

And it moved race relations forward by about 20 years.

I think that's different because you're not spreading a bad idea if you're mocking it.  If you want to use that analogy, the stickers were the equivalent of throwing racist propaganda into the world, just to see what sticks.

Context is central.
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/durr.gif)
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 06:55:34 pm
I think that's different because you're not spreading a bad idea if you're mocking it.  If you want to use that analogy, the stickers were the equivalent of throwing racist propaganda into the world, just to see what sticks.

There wasn't much mockery necessary.  The show just showed racists as they really are/were, with their pants down and their idiocy hanging out.

The concept in the OP is no different.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Captain Utopia on February 07, 2011, 07:04:55 pm

Well then, I concede.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 08:45:13 pm
You're an asshole.

And you're a moron who likes the sound of his own thinking too much.

Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.

Sickest burn of the Obama years.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: LMNO on January 10, 2019, 01:13:01 pm
Any chance you have the link to what CU said to start all this?

I could use a few more yuks.


Although, I could just read the e-Democracy thread again.
Title: Re: MISOGYNY STICKERS (a.k.a. the 'Fictionpuss is wrong' thread)
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2019, 04:31:17 pm
Any chance you have the link to what CU said to start all this?

I could use a few more yuks.


Although, I could just read the e-Democracy thread again.

No idea.  I looked at a random thread and there Cainad was being a complete savage.