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Principia Discordia => Think for Yourself, Schmuck! => Horrorology => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2010, 05:42:20 pm

Title: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2010, 05:42:20 pm
I have to say that Julian Assange is currently one of my heroes...Not just because he managed to piss off just about every major power on Earth and then ran like a mad bastard, but because he's a journalist.  A real, live, honest-to-God journalist, doing what journalists are supposed to do.

The purpose of a journalist isn't to entertain you.  That's what gossip columnists and politicians are for.  No, the purpose of a reporter/editor is to drag the Horrible Truth out into the daylight, to see which parts wiggle.  If that's a problem or an embarrassment for the United States and her vassals, then maybe they need to stop doing the sort of shit they will be embarrassed by the public knowledge thereof.

Julian Assange and his crew found the Truth, and they bellowed it from the rooftops.  Ironically enough, nobody would have cared, if the governments involved didn't get so butthurt about it.

The result, of course, was the charges against him.  Very clumsy, though.  Most people are going to sympathize with a guy who gets laid with two Swedes at once, only to have the two women change their mind later, making it look like "retroactive rape".  I'm rather surprised they didn't paint him as a kiddie-fiddler and been done with it...But they didn't, and they botched the smear, and rather than discredit him, they've simply added to the Streisand Effect caused by the above mentioned butthurt.

This all makes you ask yourself how YOU will be treated by your government, given that they have not only abandoned their principles, but actively persecute those that haven't, branding them dangerous radicals, etc.

We have the choice of the voice of Athens, and the voice of Melos.  Both are wrong, and most people aren't willing to listen to anyone else, in this case the voice of Socrates.

Or Kill Me.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2010, 06:22:50 pm
Journalists need to do more Monstering, a la Spider J.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: BadBeast on December 08, 2010, 06:30:42 pm
I have to say that Julian Assange is currently one of my heroes...Not just because he managed to piss off just about every major power on Earth and then ran like a mad bastard, but because he's a journalist.  A real, live, honest-to-God journalist, doing what journalists are supposed to do.

The purpose of a journalist isn't to entertain you.  That's what gossip columnists and politicians are for.  No, the purpose of a reporter/editor is to drag the Horrible Truth out into the daylight, to see which parts wiggle.  If that's a problem or an embarrassment for the United States and her vassals, then maybe they need to stop doing the sort of shit they will be embarrassed by the public knowledge thereof.

Julian Assange and his crew found the Truth, and they bellowed it from the rooftops.  Ironically enough, nobody would have cared, if the governments involved didn't get so butthurt about it.

The result, of course, was the charges against him.  Very clumsy, though.  Most people are going to sympathize with a guy who gets laid with two Swedes at once, only to have the two women change their mind later, making it look like "retroactive rape".  I'm rather surprised they didn't paint him as a kiddie-fiddler and been done with it...But they didn't, and they botched the smear, and rather than discredit him, they've simply added to the Streisand Effect caused by the above mentioned butthurt.

This all makes you ask yourself how YOU will be treated by your government, given that they have not only abandoned their principles, but actively persecute those that haven't, branding them dangerous radicals, etc.

We have the choice of the voice of Athens, and the voice of Melos.  Both are wrong, and most people aren't willing to listen to anyone else, in this case the voice of Socrates.

Or Kill Me.
Love this, and I'm in total agreement. In MW, most people can't decide whether Assange is a Traitor, a Spy, an Anarchist, or a shameless attention Whore. But you nailed it Rog, he a fucking JOURNALIST!  And by being a Journalist, he shows up the rest of the Worlds Press for the spineless, frightened arsekissers they really are!
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2010, 06:34:34 pm
Love this, and I'm in total agreement. In MW, most people can't decide whether Assange is a Traitor, a Spy, an Anarchist, or a shameless attention Whore. But you nailed it Rog, he a fucking JOURNALIST!  And by being a Journalist, he shows up the rest of the Worlds Press for the spineless, frightened arsekissers they really are!

And as the leader of the only actual journalists left, he's the most dangerous man on Earth.  It's small wonder that lickspittles like Memnoch and Terra Mater hate his guts.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Juana on December 08, 2010, 06:38:58 pm
Excellent stuff, Roger. Wish more people were like him 'cause we need more of them and more muckrakers.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2010, 06:42:53 pm
Journalists need to do more Monstering, a la Spider J.

This.

Assange, incidentally, just monstered the world, albeit mildly.

MISTER SWEENEY!
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2010, 06:43:39 pm
Excellent stuff, Roger. Wish more people were like him 'cause we need more of them and more muckrakers.

This is precisely why they are going to make a very public example of him.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Whatever on December 08, 2010, 06:46:00 pm
Damn Roger this is great!  You nailed it!

You know that this proves what you've told us all along, they don't want us to know the truth and they will destroy all of those who tell it.  I doubt if he will survive this.

:mittens:
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Adios on December 08, 2010, 07:34:36 pm
He's a fucking hero of the first order. Sadly, being a hero is usually accompanied by being dead.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Wizard on December 08, 2010, 08:40:40 pm
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He's a fucking hero of the first order. Sadly, being a hero is usually accompanied by being dead.

But he's started something. The kind of thing that continues after one dies. Killing him would be playing right into his hands.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on December 08, 2010, 08:55:20 pm
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He's a fucking hero of the first order. Sadly, being a hero is usually accompanied by being dead.

But he's started something. The kind of thing that continues after one dies. Killing him would be playing right into his hands.

THIS.

Up to this point governments tended to worry about the enemy getting at information... worry about spies SELLING information, defecting with information... but giving it away to the public for free with no personal agenda. That's a whole new threat.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Triple Zero on December 09, 2010, 09:36:33 am
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Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Juana on December 10, 2010, 08:06:38 pm
:mittens:
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Don Coyote on December 11, 2010, 12:01:33 am
That picture is telling me to read transmet.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Requia ☣ on December 11, 2010, 12:40:06 am
Open a newspaper, there is less and less difference between the two every day.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 14, 2010, 06:45:23 am
I finished re-reading Transmetropolitan just yesterday.

Fucking uncanny. More than a few times, a chill went up my spine as I read a page or two that came too close to the Real World.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: BadBeast on June 06, 2017, 04:36:54 am
I finished re-reading Transmetropolitan just yesterday.

Fucking uncanny. More than a few times, a chill went up my spine as I read a page or two that came too close to the Real World.
I'll tell you what's fucking uncanny. Warren Ellis's fictionalised coverage of the 2016 election campaign. 18 years early. And inventing "google glass" for Spider's uber cool glasses. And predicting live streaming internet newscasts. Bumped for relevance. And as an excuse to stick my head around the door and say "Hey everyone". So erm, Hey everyone . . . and L8rs pert8ers.
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: LMNO on June 06, 2017, 12:58:57 pm
Well, you're a blast from the past...
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2017, 01:45:13 am
I finished re-reading Transmetropolitan just yesterday.

Fucking uncanny. More than a few times, a chill went up my spine as I read a page or two that came too close to the Real World.
I'll tell you what's fucking uncanny. Warren Ellis's fictionalised coverage of the 2016 election campaign. 18 years early. And inventing "google glass" for Spider's uber cool glasses. And predicting live streaming internet newscasts. Bumped for relevance. And as an excuse to stick my head around the door and say "Hey everyone". So erm, Hey everyone . . . and L8rs pert8ers.

I always thought the election in that was more "Obama replacing Nixon".
Title: Re: Slow Time in Fat City, part 9: The Last Investigative Journalist
Post by: The Johnny on May 02, 2019, 11:49:32 pm

Bump, just cause we were discussing about journalism degrading into entertainment in Aneristic Illussions.