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Title: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Cramulus on January 04, 2012, 09:28:43 pm
What Makes You Not a Discordian?

I'm curious to hear people's opinions on this.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 04, 2012, 09:57:00 pm
What Makes You Not a Discordian?

I'm curious to hear people's opinions on this.

Being dead.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Faust on January 04, 2012, 10:18:51 pm
Illumination.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: MMMW on January 05, 2012, 12:04:47 am
Conclusions.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 12:11:32 am
Conclusions.

Then nobody in the fucking world is a Discordian, and if there were, they all died trying to decide what to have for dinner.

(See what I did there?)
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Kai on January 05, 2012, 12:12:20 am
When I take things too seriously, then I'm not a Discordian.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 12:13:55 am
When I take things too seriously, then I'm not a Discordian.

For me, I'm either FULL BORE SERIOUS or not serious at all...And I think I'm Discordian in both states.

When I feel that I should be serious because it's expected of me, THAT is when I am in a state of horrible, mortal sin.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on January 05, 2012, 01:30:07 am
When the Monkey takes over.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 01:37:14 am
When the Monkey takes over.

This bears thought.  90%+ people are on monkey-pilot 90%+ of the time, and we consider them Discordians.

It makes you a primate, rather than a human, but does it keep you from being a Discordian?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: AFK on January 05, 2012, 02:26:08 am
When I'm an Accord-ian. 

I dunno if I ever think that I'm not Discordian.  I think fallibility is a perfectly acceptible quality of a Discordian, I suppose you would stop being Discordian if you didn't figure out that you were wrong and think about how to fix it or to change directions, paths, etc.,
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 05, 2012, 06:19:54 am
Whenever I feel like being serious is antithetical to Discordianism.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: MMMW on January 05, 2012, 07:51:38 am
Conclusions.

Then nobody in the fucking world is a Discordian, and if there were, they all died trying to decide what to have for dinner.

(See what I did there?)

I stand corrected. Wait, maybe we are dead. :aaa:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on January 05, 2012, 01:24:27 pm
When the Monkey takes over.

This bears thought.  90%+ people are on monkey-pilot 90%+ of the time, and we consider them Discordians.

It makes you a primate, rather than a human, but does it keep you from being a Discordian?

Hmm.  It may be that I'm just an elitist bastard.  Sure, sure, "Everyone is a Discordian", and all that.  I guess I just feel that a Discordian(LMNO) is someone who knows about the monkey, and tries to be a biped.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 05, 2012, 01:41:54 pm
I think that everyone is 'Discordian' all of the time, because everyone is building their own subjective reality 'ordering things and disordering things'... wobbling their own sacred chao... all of the time. Some Discordians poke through the monkey mind and begin consciously manipulating the ordering/disordering. However, I think that the 'we're all Discordians' tends to be more about all humans being agents of 'Eris'... agents of 'chaos'... simply by virtue of their existence.

Sometimes, I've found myself thinking about 'us vs them'... Discordians vs the Cabbages. Yet, I have never really gotten to know someone without learning that they have their own complete set of Weird. Maybe they aren't sitting on a forum writing philosophical rants, or entries for Intermittens, maybe they aren't consciously thinking about their Black Iron Prison... but they are often holding contrary opinions, doing creative things that inspire them and sometimes pulling of mindfucks for fun, even though they don't call them mindfucks.

For self-reflective 'Discordian philosophers', though, there are a lot of 'anti-discordian' behaviors that could be discussed. Stagnation, for example, stagnation in life, in hobbies, in opinions, in ideas; a complete lack of creative order/disorder or even destructive order/disorder seems antithetical to a lot of 'Discordian philosophy'. Believing that person A's Discordia is False while one's own Discordia is true also seems like a anti-discordian concept. Interestingly, it seems to stretch back almost as far as modern Discordianism.

However, just because those behaviors aren't necessarily in-line with popular Discordian philosophy, it doesn't mean the person isn't a Discordian (any more so than a Catholic isn't a Catholic while they're having sex with the neighbor). All of us have a monkey mind and us vs them seems almost hardwired... but accepting that is also part of Discordianism.

IMO.

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 04:21:54 pm
I think the idea that "everyone is a Discordian" needs to be examined a bit more.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on January 05, 2012, 04:30:56 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: AFK on January 05, 2012, 04:31:18 pm
I think everyone has that potential.  Many are shut-off from it and need some kind of "jail-breaking" process to become aware of it.  Even if they never give it that label of "Discordianism". 
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 05, 2012, 05:29:07 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

 :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 05:30:41 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 05, 2012, 06:25:42 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

"Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator"... isn't that simply another definition of Discordian?  :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on January 05, 2012, 06:34:32 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

You forgot the porcelin garden gnome, and the XXL Snuggie.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 06:40:29 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

You forgot the porcelin garden gnome, and the XXL Snuggie.

That's because I am a clean-living Holy Man™, and there are some perversions I simply will not acknowledge.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2012, 06:41:22 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

You forgot the porcelin garden gnome, and the XXL Snuggie.

"Failure Pants come in one size: Error."
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 06:44:19 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

You forgot the porcelin garden gnome, and the XXL Snuggie.

"Failure Pants come in one size: Error."

:spit:

WHAT
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 05, 2012, 08:13:38 pm
First thing that pops into my head:

"Everyone is Discord.  Few are Discordians."

Pretty sure that was the second thing.  The first one had to do with Lady Gaga, Ru Paul, and a mechanical agitator.

I know you, sir.

You forgot the porcelin garden gnome, and the XXL Snuggie.

"Failure Pants come in one size: Error."

:spit:

WHAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBL0RUJx7-I
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on January 05, 2012, 10:11:22 pm
Completely lacking a sense of humor, I think, qualifies you for non-Discordian membership.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Telarus on January 06, 2012, 06:22:58 am
Completely lacking a sense of humor, I think, qualifies you for non-Discordian membership.

No, see that's what makes US the best One True Religion. We've got a place for _anybody_. Your criteria puts people in one of the Five Orders of Discordia ("THEM"): http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/53.php
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Placid Dingo on January 06, 2012, 03:08:30 pm
I know the Buddhists have some absolutes that refer to the human condition and I made a joke about it on Facebook (can't remember what they were). My comment ended with ... You may be a Buddhist.

A Buddhist friend pulled me up on it and pointed out that I wasnt talking about Buddhists but the condition of all humankind. So when we talk about our understanding of the human condition, the same applies- everyone is a pope, but that's our way of expressing the human condition (autonomy). But if someone rejects that truth and follows another authority, I think it's fair to say there're not a discordian.

But you know every religion does this; you can't be gay/slutty/whatever and still a Christian- but of course, you can. And I think any of our sentences that start with 'you can't be...' are equally doomed.

However, depending on your personal dis orris there's various degrees of doin' it wrong.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 06, 2012, 08:33:05 pm
What Makes You Not a Discordian?

I tried bleach, alcohol, drugs, screaming, sandpaper, acid scrubs, heat guns ... IT WON'T COME OFF!!!

If anyone figures this out, I'll be over there in the corner, rocking gently back and forth.






But seriously,
When the Monkey takes over.
This bears thought.  90%+ people are on monkey-pilot 90%+ of the time, and we consider them Discordians.It makes you a primate, rather than a human, but does it keep you from being a Discordian?

Hmm.  It may be that I'm just an elitist bastard.  Sure, sure, "Everyone is a Discordian", and all that.  I guess I just feel that a Discordian(LMNO) is someone who knows about the monkey, and tries to be a biped.

I don't know. If the monkey takes over, do you stop being a Discordian? Sooner or later you'll realize and the biped gets back behind the steering wheel, and you're still a Discordian.

I would personally say, when the monkey takes over, indefinitely.

Of course that makes it kind of inexact, cause you never know when someone will stay some way forever, and even if you go for a couple of years being a complete and utter shitslinging monkey, then for some reason pop back to bipedalism, I'd agree they stopped being a Discordian for some years.

I'm okay with this inexactness, it's not super-important to have a strict definition for this.

It's just that, even if you're trying your utmost best to be a biped, nobody can manage that all the time. In fact, it can happen quite often, and I don't believe such a person would be a "traffic light Discordian", switching on and off every so often.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: BadBeast on January 06, 2012, 09:05:34 pm
What Makes You Not a Discordian?

I tried bleach, alcohol, drugs, screaming, sandpaper, acid scrubs, heat guns ... IT WON'T COME OFF!!!

If anyone figures this out, I'll be over there in the corner, rocking gently back and forth.






But seriously,
When the Monkey takes over.
This bears thought.  90%+ people are on monkey-pilot 90%+ of the time, and we consider them Discordians.It makes you a primate, rather than a human, but does it keep you from being a Discordian?

Hmm.  It may be that I'm just an elitist bastard.  Sure, sure, "Everyone is a Discordian", and all that.  I guess I just feel that a Discordian(LMNO) is someone who knows about the monkey, and tries to be a biped.

I don't know. If the monkey takes over, do you stop being a Discordian? Sooner or later you'll realize and the biped gets back behind the steering wheel, and you're still a Discordian.

I would personally say, when the monkey takes over, indefinitely.


The Monkey will always take any opportunity to jump in the driving seat. We shouldn't expect any less. That doesn't stop you from being a Discordian. The Monkey, despite everything, wants to "Be like you, ooh ooh". And that's as it should be.

But if the biped defers to the Monkey, gives him the car keys, and then expects to be driven from A-B like it was a fucking Taxi service? Well, that might be outlandishly unconventional, especially for other Monkeys, in a kind of "King Louie" way, but there ain't no room in my Discordia for that kind of stupidity.

Mowgli didn't abandon the Seonee pack to go and live among the Bandar Log, he was dragged off. And he never gave it the old "We be of one blood, you and me" call to the Monkeys who captured him, but to Chil, the Kite. "Mans Red Flower" is not something you can just "give" to Monkeys. It's the same with golden apples. A Monkey would just eat that apple, in order to make some new shit to fling at the other Monkeys.

And that isn't Discordian at all. A Man may lapse into Monkey mode from time, but only a Monkey would want to stay like that.
 
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Slurrealist on January 08, 2012, 08:49:26 pm
If you think you are a Discordian, then probably you are not a Discordian.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 18, 2012, 03:56:35 pm
I would argue that you can be a Discordian inasmuch as someone can be a Christian, but you cannot be a Discordian in the same way that you could be Catholic. A Discordian1 would be a person who believes in some or all of the Discordian belief set and lives by it to some extent, whereas a Discordian2 would be a member of a practicing body with structure and whatnot. Any group of Discordians1 could attempt to create an organization of Discordians2, but by its nature it would not be something that included all Discordians1 and therefore could not be a definitive answer to who is and who is not Discordian, and so they'd end up being something else altogether: Discordianchurch of the hyperbolic metaphor or something.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Telarus on January 19, 2012, 01:31:10 am
The POEE was structured as the all encompassing disorganization.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Golden Applesauce on January 20, 2012, 02:39:47 am
Instead of coming up with a thoughtful reply to this thread, I'm going to spend an hour watching TV.  Then I'm going to go to bed, because I wouldn't want to be late for work tomorrow.

Is not discordian  :sad:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2012, 03:38:42 am
I would argue that you can be a Discordian inasmuch as someone can be a Christian, but you cannot be a Discordian in the same way that you could be Catholic.

You never met Prince Tao Jones.   :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2012, 03:39:11 am
If you think you are a Discordian, then probably you are not a Discordian.

Aren't we just the cutest little elitist?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: BadBeast on January 20, 2012, 04:56:09 am
If you think you are a Discordian, then probably you are not a Discordian.
I think you're mistaking us for that other lot of Discordians, the real ones. We're not the real Discordians.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 20, 2012, 11:26:38 am
I think that everyone is a Discordian in some sense (via POEE if nothing else). However, every cabal may have a completely different concept of what being a Discordian is for them. Some cabals are full of clowns, some are full of philosophers, some are full of scientists... all of them are full of Shit.

Maybe thats it... you're not a Discordian (for some definitions of the word), if you don't realize that you're full of shit.

Hail Eris!  :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 20, 2012, 01:51:27 pm
I think that everyone is a Discordian in some sense (via POEE if nothing else). However, every cabal may have a completely different concept of what being a Discordian is for them. Some cabals are full of clowns, some are full of philosophers, some are full of scientists... all of them are full of Shit.

Maybe thats it... you're not a Discordian (for some definitions of the word), if you don't realize that you're full of shit.

Hail Eris!  :lulz:
I like this one.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Iron Sulfide on January 22, 2012, 10:29:09 pm
The following is a list the top 5 things that make me "less" "discordian":

I miss the punchline, frequently.

I'm awesome at being sarcastic, but have difficulty picking it up in someone else.

In the deepest recesses of my heart, I do believe there is a "point" to it all (not the same, mind you, as "everything happens for a reason")

I call myself a discordian, sometimes.

I, due to habituation, have an easier time doing my mindless, boring job than I do pursuing things I actually enjoy.

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 23, 2012, 12:00:30 am
I don't make enough controversial statements.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: BadBeast on January 23, 2012, 01:00:44 pm
Listening to Discordians explaining how to be Discordian makes me not Discordian. In order to be Discordian, you must Discard what Discordians say, and become a Discardian instead. And being a Guardian of Dis?  Dat is good groundwork for Discordians.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: N E T on January 23, 2012, 01:10:28 pm
What makes you not a Discordian?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LuciferX on March 01, 2012, 10:02:30 pm
 :evilmad: you tell me!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 01, 2012, 10:03:31 pm
What makes you not a Discordian?
  • When you take things too seriously
  • When you try to convince yourself you don't really care about what you really do
  • When you allow a rigid self-concept to interfere with spontaneously being yourself

Or maybe "When you act like someone else to please other people".
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LuciferX on March 01, 2012, 10:10:09 pm
What makes you not a Discordian?
  • When you take things too seriously
  • When you try to convince yourself you don't really care about what you really do
  • When you allow a rigid self-concept to interfere with spontaneously being yourself

Or maybe "When you act like someone else to please other people".

Except for me, I do what I want, even when I don't want to.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on March 01, 2012, 10:52:06 pm
What makes you not a Discordian?
  • When you take things too seriously
  • When you try to convince yourself you don't really care about what you really do
  • When you allow a rigid self-concept to interfere with spontaneously being yourself

Or maybe "When you act like someone else to please other people".

I'd like to amend this to: When you feel like you HAVE to act like you ARE someone else to please other people.

Or maybe not even that, I'm thinking for instance about that story you told earlier today about telling the cop you were a good, church-going man protecting his daughter from evil SATAN worshippers. Technically you were acting like someone else to please that cop, but if that stunt wasn't Discordian, then I don't know what is! ;-)
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: N E T on March 01, 2012, 10:55:27 pm
What makes you not a Discordian?
  • When you take things too seriously
  • When you try to convince yourself you don't really care about what you really do
  • When you allow a rigid self-concept to interfere with spontaneously being yourself

Or maybe "When you act like someone else to please other people".

I'd like to amend this to: When you feel like you HAVE to act like you ARE someone else to please other people.

Or maybe not even that, I'm thinking for instance about that story you told earlier today about telling the cop you were a good, church-going man protecting his daughter from evil SATAN worshippers. Technically you were acting like someone else to please that cop, but if that stunt wasn't Discordian, then I don't know what is! ;-)

Good point.

I think feeling compelled to act like someone else to please others was what Dok was getting at, though.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on March 01, 2012, 11:40:07 pm
Oh, yeah, I should add I totally understood what he was getting at.

Just sometimes useful to point at the thing what makes the difference, you know?

And I'm not sure it lies in "feeling compelled" either, btw.

How about,

When acting like someone else to please other people becomes something that you are, identify with, when the "you" that acts like someone else becomes a person you're okay with.

It's gotten too long but I'm trying to put my finger on it, thinking of extreme situations like oppressive regimes where you have to pretend to be someone else 90% of the day, but still cherish that kernel of your own identity, refusing to become what you're required to pretend to be (and all the way back to the cop that can fuck you over, to social situations with groups of not-really-your-friends, etc).
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: N E T on March 01, 2012, 11:56:09 pm
Oh, yeah, I should add I totally understood what he was getting at.

Just sometimes useful to point at the thing what makes the difference, you know?

For sure.


And I'm not sure it lies in "feeling compelled" either, btw.

How about,

When acting like someone else to please other people becomes something that you are, identify with, when the "you" that acts like someone else becomes a person you're okay with.

Maybe "feeling compelled" isn't right either...

It sounds like you could be describing an actor, but that definitely doesn't preclude someone from being a Discordian.

It's a surprisingly difficult question to answer on a somewhat serious level.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on March 02, 2012, 12:46:41 am
mmm okay, point. How about this:


<all those things said so far> ... and is being a cunt about it.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 02, 2012, 01:28:04 am
Um...wait. I thought none of us are. Isn't that the entire point?

I did log onto the right site here [*checks domain*]...right?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 02, 2012, 01:42:10 am
Um...wait. I thought none of us are. Isn't that the entire point?

I did log onto the right site here [*checks domain*]...right?
None of us are not Discordians?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: N E T on March 02, 2012, 02:15:20 am
Um...wait. I thought none of us are. Isn't that the entire point?

I did log onto the right site here [*checks domain*]...right?
None of us are not Discordians?

Technically.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 02, 2012, 02:26:07 am
Um...wait. I thought none of us are. Isn't that the entire point?

I did log onto the right site here [*checks domain*]...right?
None of us are not Discordians?

Technically.
I'm pretty sure my first post here was "I do not identify as a Discordian."
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 02, 2012, 03:06:14 am
Um...wait. I thought none of us are. Isn't that the entire point?

I did log onto the right site here [*checks domain*]...right?
None of us are not Discordians?

Technically.
I'm pretty sure my first post here was "I do not identify as a Discordian."

Wrong again. You still lose.

There's really no way out of this one.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Don Coyote on March 02, 2012, 03:53:36 am
I was a Discordian long before I read that stupid book.
You are pretty much teh doomzored QG.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2012, 03:48:00 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 02, 2012, 03:50:57 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.
YEAH! THAT!

(Today is a capsie day, apparently.)
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 02, 2012, 04:02:43 pm
What I mean is, it doesn't matter which you choose: even if you slap the Kool-Aid out of their proffered hand, you're still gonna have a sticky mess to clean.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2012, 04:17:12 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.
YEAH! THAT!

(Today is a capsie day, apparently.)

:thanks:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: El Sjaako on March 02, 2012, 04:36:47 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.

Life is unfair...
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2012, 04:38:40 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.

Life is unfair...
       ^
        |
Missing the point ITT.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: El Sjaako on March 02, 2012, 07:43:32 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.

Life is unfair...
       ^
        |
Missing the point ITT.
I thought you were quoting the malcom in the middle song...

More on topic, it's hard to be a discordian in a snuggie. For instance, I can not imagine this man: http://www.mysnuggiestore.com/images/Product/medium/prints_camo.png being discordian.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: AFK on March 02, 2012, 07:50:06 pm
Not the way I wear them. 
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2012, 09:34:20 pm
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.

Life is unfair...
       ^
        |
Missing the point ITT.
I thought you were quoting the malcom in the middle song...

More on topic, it's hard to be a discordian in a snuggie. For instance, I can not imagine this man: http://www.mysnuggiestore.com/images/Product/medium/prints_camo.png being discordian.

I was. But just that line, as it relates to the conversation.

It boils down to "don't tell me who I am or am not".
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 03, 2012, 01:10:51 am
You're not the boss of me, and you're not so big.

Life is unfair...
       ^
        |
Missing the point ITT.
I thought you were quoting the malcom in the middle song...

More on topic, it's hard to be a discordian in a snuggie. For instance, I can not imagine this man:(http://www.mysnuggiestore.com/images/Product/medium/prints_camo.png) being discordian.

Are you for real? Do you know how much stuff you can hide under a snuggie and a dumb smile?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2012, 01:27:14 am
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 03, 2012, 01:50:37 am
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.

and luxurious.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: N E T on March 03, 2012, 06:40:49 am
And then el sjaako bought a tactical snuggie.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Faust on March 03, 2012, 10:21:37 am
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.

and luxurious.

No more then McDonalds is luxury.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: BadBeast on March 03, 2012, 10:36:27 am
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.

and luxurious.

No more then McDonalds is luxury.
Or Crocs are hilarious.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: axod on March 03, 2012, 12:08:37 pm
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.

and luxurious.

No more then McDonalds is luxury.
Or Crocs are hilarious.
Or coffee computes.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 03, 2012, 03:02:08 pm
Well...walking around in public in a snuggie would make everyones day a little weirder...

SnuggieGASM?
No?
Alright, fair point.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: AFK on March 03, 2012, 03:57:23 pm
Also, Snuggies are hilarious.

and luxurious.

No more then McDonalds is luxury.
Or Crocs are hilarious.
Or coffee computes.

Or coffee compotes? 
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on March 03, 2012, 04:44:23 pm
IT'S MORE FUN TO COMPOTE!!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2012, 05:41:29 pm
Well...walking around in public in a snuggie would make everyones day a little weirder...  MORE AWESOME!

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 03, 2012, 06:06:49 pm
Snuggie comercials represent one of the things that i love about america. "mildly inconvenienced when youre being a lazy ass watching tv? Can reach your remote instantly from under your blanket because you didnt pay your heating bill? Well we have just the solution for you!" or "are you tired of stabbing your hand with a paring knife? Sick of embarrassing food related doctors visits?..."
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2012, 06:18:52 pm
I bet more Snuggies have been sold as gag gifts than purchased by people who seriously want to own a Snuggie.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2012, 06:19:54 pm
Snuggie comercials represent one of the things that i love about america. "mildly inconvenienced when youre being a lazy ass watching tv? Can reach your remote instantly from under your blanket because you didnt pay your heating bill? Well we have just the solution for you!" or "are you tired of stabbing your hand with a paring knife? Sick of embarrassing food related doctors visits?..."

I love those commercials!

"Want to tighten a screw, but find ordinary screwdrivers too complicated and hard to use?"
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 03, 2012, 06:21:52 pm
Hey if it works it works. Villager and roommates do that sort of thing occasionally. They do get a lot of use out of the slap chop though.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 03, 2012, 06:46:30 pm
Yeah, that stuffs crazy. I love the nonstick pan commercials, where some suburban mom has somehow superglued brownies into the pan YET AGAIN. The screen goes all grey and she's tosses the pain down like "Fuck brownies, I'm out!"

Commercials are hilariously overdramatic.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 03, 2012, 06:51:08 pm
Thats whats fantastic about them. They make living in a developed country look like a near impossible task. Everyones so fucking frustrated with these things that arent even remotely as frustrating as theyre portrayed.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 03, 2012, 07:55:32 pm
First world prooooblems!
dah-dah-ksh!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 03, 2012, 08:14:09 pm
Snuggie comercials represent one of the things that i love about america. "mildly inconvenienced when youre being a lazy ass watching tv? Can reach your remote instantly from under your blanket because you didnt pay your heating bill? Well we have just the solution for you!" or "are you tired of stabbing your hand with a paring knife? Sick of embarrassing food related doctors visits?..."

I love those commercials!

"Want to tighten a screw, but find ordinary screwdrivers too complicated and hard to use?"

 :lulz:

Now you can use the scroozy, an innovative new product for screwing screws!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2012, 08:38:00 pm
Snuggie comercials represent one of the things that i love about america. "mildly inconvenienced when youre being a lazy ass watching tv? Can reach your remote instantly from under your blanket because you didnt pay your heating bill? Well we have just the solution for you!" or "are you tired of stabbing your hand with a paring knife? Sick of embarrassing food related doctors visits?..."

I love those commercials!

"Want to tighten a screw, but find ordinary screwdrivers too complicated and hard to use?"

 :lulz:

Now you can use the scroozy, an innovative new product for screwing screws!

 :lulz:

"Are ordinary shoelaces just too hard?"
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 03, 2012, 08:43:34 pm
Snuggie comercials represent one of the things that i love about america. "mildly inconvenienced when youre being a lazy ass watching tv? Can reach your remote instantly from under your blanket because you didnt pay your heating bill? Well we have just the solution for you!" or "are you tired of stabbing your hand with a paring knife? Sick of embarrassing food related doctors visits?..."

I love those commercials!

"Want to tighten a screw, but find ordinary screwdrivers too complicated and hard to use?"

 :lulz:

Now you can use the scroozy, an innovative new product for screwing screws!

 :lulz:

"Are ordinary shoelaces just too hard?"

Velcro got you down? Meet the Lace Monster, a new way to strap footwear to your tired, useless feet!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 03, 2012, 11:48:57 pm
Somewhere in this thread is a brilliant postergasm idea, for sure...
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 04, 2012, 12:04:39 am
I was thinking youtube videos :)
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 04, 2012, 12:06:13 am
I was thinking youtube videos :)

 :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: hirley0 on March 04, 2012, 11:33:44 am
11 LAMAT3:33&1/3 TRYING2 stay on top of the Tails:
Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 05:34:13 AM
    Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on March 02, 2012, 05:21:38 AM
        Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
            Okay, so hirley0 is robot with Multiple Personality Disorder? Or...?  :?

        Go with Or...? We shouldn't rush to diagnosis. The soon to be released DSM V pathologises childhood, basically. AS well a lot of adulthood.
    Oops. I didn't realize I was actually getting close to a nerve. I thought hirley was a character someone here created.

% % % %%%-----------------% %%%  %

was a character someone here HOLLYWOOD  created" = Jack Nickleson? played (Um}? the made in
"OREGON" roll in One Flew Over the CoCo's Nest IN 1975 version of 1981
OR. events Ward D. difficult to get Milli Second Li correct
due to imposed delays & other interferences to numerous to mention
The main point | difference between the movie & the FACTs IN Oregon the method used is Lethal Injection. ThaT is/WAS real. & was used in '81 4
or 5 i 4get the month | its part of the I CON E.ron tails omitted HERE?/?


Also, Snuggies are hilarious.
and luxurious.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 04, 2012, 05:04:22 pm
Yeah, that stuffs crazy. I love the nonstick pan commercials, where some suburban mom has somehow superglued brownies into the pan YET AGAIN. The screen goes all grey and she's tosses the pain down like "Fuck brownies, I'm out!"

Commercials are hilariously overdramatic.

Everything about this tickles me.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 04, 2012, 05:16:13 pm
11 LAMAT3:33&1/3 TRYING2 stay on top of the Tails:
Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 05:34:13 AM
    Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on March 02, 2012, 05:21:38 AM
        Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
            Okay, so hirley0 is robot with Multiple Personality Disorder? Or...?  :?

        Go with Or...? We shouldn't rush to diagnosis. The soon to be released DSM V pathologises childhood, basically. AS well a lot of adulthood.
    Oops. I didn't realize I was actually getting close to a nerve. I thought hirley was a character someone here created.

% % % %%%-----------------% %%%  %

was a character someone here HOLLYWOOD  created" = Jack Nickleson? played (Um}? the made in
"OREGON" roll in One Flew Over the CoCo's Nest IN 1975 version of 1981
OR. events Ward D. difficult to get Milli Second Li correct
due to imposed delays & other interferences to numerous to mention
The main point | difference between the movie & the FACTs IN Oregon the method used is Lethal Injection. ThaT is/WAS real. & was used in '81 4
or 5 i 4get the month | its part of the I CON E.ron tails omitted HERE?/?


Also, Snuggies are hilarious.
and luxurious.

I mean, it has nothing to do with reaching the remote or an easy way to shake off the Ho-hos crumbs. I just love being enveloped in soft, warm things.

And pish tosh to the McDonald's comparison! I'm not so much of a snob that a book, a cuppa and a blanket with sleevesisn't enough for me to feel self-pampered for and evening. How about THAT for an answer to the OP: I've lost the game and should give up when I stop feeling a sense of wonderment over small things and start being a nihilist snob who doesn't get warm-fuzzies out of mankind's delightful and harmless ridiculousness. I have to turn in my Pope card when everything fun starts to look like Chicken McNuggets.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 04, 2012, 05:43:25 pm
And you know what? I fucking love those goddamn little apple pies.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 04, 2012, 05:51:01 pm
And you know what? I fucking love those goddamn little apple pies.

Then little apple pies shall become the new bunless tubesteak.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 04, 2012, 06:21:48 pm
I've lost the game and should give up when I stop feeling a sense of wonderment over small things and start being a nihilist snob who doesn't get warm-fuzzies out of mankind's delightful and harmless ridiculousness. I have to turn in my Pope card when everything fun starts to look like Chicken McNuggets.

This should be on a billboard somewhere.
Cynics are hard to be around.
I mean, we're all doomed...but it's still a little funny.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LuciferX on March 05, 2012, 07:41:34 am
And you know what? I fucking love those goddamn little apple pies.

Then little apple pies shall become the new bunless tubesteak.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Faust on March 05, 2012, 09:31:02 am
11 LAMAT3:33&1/3 TRYING2 stay on top of the Tails:
Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 05:34:13 AM
    Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on March 02, 2012, 05:21:38 AM
        Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
            Okay, so hirley0 is robot with Multiple Personality Disorder? Or...?  :?

        Go with Or...? We shouldn't rush to diagnosis. The soon to be released DSM V pathologises childhood, basically. AS well a lot of adulthood.
    Oops. I didn't realize I was actually getting close to a nerve. I thought hirley was a character someone here created.

% % % %%%-----------------% %%%  %

was a character someone here HOLLYWOOD  created" = Jack Nickleson? played (Um}? the made in
"OREGON" roll in One Flew Over the CoCo's Nest IN 1975 version of 1981
OR. events Ward D. difficult to get Milli Second Li correct
due to imposed delays & other interferences to numerous to mention
The main point | difference between the movie & the FACTs IN Oregon the method used is Lethal Injection. ThaT is/WAS real. & was used in '81 4
or 5 i 4get the month | its part of the I CON E.ron tails omitted HERE?/?


Also, Snuggies are hilarious.
and luxurious.

I mean, it has nothing to do with reaching the remote or an easy way to shake off the Ho-hos crumbs. I just love being enveloped in soft, warm things.

And pish tosh to the McDonald's comparison! I'm not so much of a snob that a book, a cuppa and a blanket with sleevesisn't enough for me to feel self-pampered for and evening. How about THAT for an answer to the OP: I've lost the game and should give up when I stop feeling a sense of wonderment over small things and start being a nihilist snob who doesn't get warm-fuzzies out of mankind's delightful and harmless ridiculousness. I have to turn in my Pope card when everything fun starts to look like Chicken McNuggets.

I guess it's an american thing, snuggies are gross. Nothing beats curling up with a book a cuppa and a blanket, Certainly not wearing robes that look like wallmart has started a cult.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 05, 2012, 09:44:30 am
Just thought of something based on nav's comment...

Maybe hopeless nihilism makes a person 'not Discordian'. Not that Discordians must be optimistic or true believers or anything else... but once the world has become meaningless, hopeless and humorless to a person... maybe they're no longer Discordian.

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 11:28:59 am
Right. I mean, everyone has their own definition of The Truth but the way The Truth presents to me, it is the embodiment of the spirit of being untouchable. We are Black Swan anomalies...but wait! before you give yourself airs, or assume contrived non-conformity, all I mean by that is that we are (supposed to be) the few who can laugh at everything: the ones who can eat the chicken nuggets, wash it down with an ice-cold glass of the Kool Aid and say "Ahhhhh! That hit the spot! I'm so disgusted in myself for enjoying that!" and giggle maniacally at our own stupidity.

We are not exempt from humanity and in FACT, once our connection to the mudane human experience is completely severed, we become nothing but pompous, transcendental aliens sneering and making fun of the "lower ranks."

Someone came up with a blanket with sleeves and that makes me giggle. Humans are funny. I'm funny. "I'll but THAT fer a dollar!" I holler.

The "Wal-mart Monk" concept isn't difficult for me to visualize. I can empathize just as much with your perception as I do with the mirthful silliness of the thing. All I'm saying is: push beyond that and find the mirth again. It's not like we're tag-eared sheep, lining up for our inoculations. Find what is genuine to you in a way that utterly disregards the choices offered, which are these: 1. subscribe 2. rebel.

If you spend your life screaming, you waste the whole damned thing with a sore throat and a sense of futility...in which case, regardless of whether or not They've won, you've lost.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:14:42 pm
And you know what? I fucking love those goddamn little apple pies.

Then little apple pies shall become the new bunless tubesteak.

I am totally down with that!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:15:31 pm
Just thought of something based on nav's comment...

Maybe hopeless nihilism makes a person 'not Discordian'. Not that Discordians must be optimistic or true believers or anything else... but once the world has become meaningless, hopeless and humorless to a person... maybe they're no longer Discordian.

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

Did he? Abandon all hope and humor?

I wasn't aware that anyone here knew him that well.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:18:25 pm
11 LAMAT3:33&1/3 TRYING2 stay on top of the Tails:
Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 05:34:13 AM
    Quote from: Deepthroat Chopra on March 02, 2012, 05:21:38 AM
        Quote from: navkat on March 02, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
            Okay, so hirley0 is robot with Multiple Personality Disorder? Or...?  :?

        Go with Or...? We shouldn't rush to diagnosis. The soon to be released DSM V pathologises childhood, basically. AS well a lot of adulthood.
    Oops. I didn't realize I was actually getting close to a nerve. I thought hirley was a character someone here created.

% % % %%%-----------------% %%%  %

was a character someone here HOLLYWOOD  created" = Jack Nickleson? played (Um}? the made in
"OREGON" roll in One Flew Over the CoCo's Nest IN 1975 version of 1981
OR. events Ward D. difficult to get Milli Second Li correct
due to imposed delays & other interferences to numerous to mention
The main point | difference between the movie & the FACTs IN Oregon the method used is Lethal Injection. ThaT is/WAS real. & was used in '81 4
or 5 i 4get the month | its part of the I CON E.ron tails omitted HERE?/?


Also, Snuggies are hilarious.
and luxurious.

I mean, it has nothing to do with reaching the remote or an easy way to shake off the Ho-hos crumbs. I just love being enveloped in soft, warm things.

And pish tosh to the McDonald's comparison! I'm not so much of a snob that a book, a cuppa and a blanket with sleevesisn't enough for me to feel self-pampered for and evening. How about THAT for an answer to the OP: I've lost the game and should give up when I stop feeling a sense of wonderment over small things and start being a nihilist snob who doesn't get warm-fuzzies out of mankind's delightful and harmless ridiculousness. I have to turn in my Pope card when everything fun starts to look like Chicken McNuggets.

I guess it's an american thing, snuggies are gross. Nothing beats curling up with a book a cuppa and a blanket, Certainly not wearing robes that look like wallmart has started a cult.

Christ, what an asshole.  :lulz:
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:20:16 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kz15kiTwhE1qzte3yo1_500.jpg)

The problem I have with the premise of this whole thread is that it's pretty much the same masturbatory self-congratulating tripe as Christians determining who is and is not a "True Christian". Seriously, what is this crap? I honestly thought the crew here was, by and large, intellectually above this kind of nauseating bullshit.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 03:38:59 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:43:07 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.

No, Dok. You and LMNO and all the other 9-5 spags aren't REAL Discordians. Not really for real. Trust the experts.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 03:47:25 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.

No, Dok. You and LMNO and all the other 9-5 spags aren't REAL Discordians. Not really for real. Trust the experts.

So, A REAL Discordian must be a pillar of hope & humor, and if life kicks the shit out of them until they can't laugh (just give that little hiccuping noise people make when you kick them in the gut), then they get booted out or - worse - pitied?

I'm glad I'm a fake Discordian.  It probably doesn't hurt as much when people shake their heads sadly when you stumble.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 03:58:26 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.

No, Dok. You and LMNO and all the other 9-5 spags aren't REAL Discordians. Not really for real. Trust the experts.

So, A REAL Discordian must be a pillar of hope & humor, and if life kicks the shit out of them until they can't laugh (just give that little hiccuping noise people make when you kick them in the gut), then they get booted out or - worse - pitied?

I'm glad I'm a fake Discordian.  It probably doesn't hurt as much when people shake their heads sadly when you stumble.

Yessir, I'm going to stick with the fake Discordians myself, as well. They don't have so many rules.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:01:31 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.

No, Dok. You and LMNO and all the other 9-5 spags aren't REAL Discordians. Not really for real. Trust the experts.

So, A REAL Discordian must be a pillar of hope & humor, and if life kicks the shit out of them until they can't laugh (just give that little hiccuping noise people make when you kick them in the gut), then they get booted out or - worse - pitied?

I'm glad I'm a fake Discordian.  It probably doesn't hurt as much when people shake their heads sadly when you stumble.

Yessir, I'm going to stick with the fake Discordians myself, as well. They don't have so many rules.

It's not the rules, Nigel.  They are there for good reason, as you well know.  It's just that sometimes I get tired.  Sometimes I don't shake the benzos off before noon.  Sometimes I have to slow down.  REAL Discordians don't get tired.  They are supermen, who balance on their pedastles.  If they fall off their plinth, they were obviously the wrong men/women for the job...They might be Baptists or something, trying to play a part.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 04:07:46 pm

I am thinking, particularly, of Mal-2 here, Greg Hill... the crazy bastard that started the whole thing. He ended up a sad drunk, working a 9 to 5 in a big corporation, abandoning all hope and humor. At the end, I don't think he would have called himself Discordian at all.  :sad:

I work a 9-5.  I have not abandoned all hope & humor.

No, Dok. You and LMNO and all the other 9-5 spags aren't REAL Discordians. Not really for real. Trust the experts.

So, A REAL Discordian must be a pillar of hope & humor, and if life kicks the shit out of them until they can't laugh (just give that little hiccuping noise people make when you kick them in the gut), then they get booted out or - worse - pitied?

I'm glad I'm a fake Discordian.  It probably doesn't hurt as much when people shake their heads sadly when you stumble.

Yessir, I'm going to stick with the fake Discordians myself, as well. They don't have so many rules.

It's not the rules, Nigel.  They are there for good reason, as you well know.  It's just that sometimes I get tired.  Sometimes I don't shake the benzos off before noon.  Sometimes I have to slow down.  REAL Discordians don't get tired.  They are supermen, who balance on their pedastles.  If they fall off their plinth, they were obviously the wrong men/women for the job...They might be Baptists or something, trying to play a part.

I'll stay away from that racket, then... I don't have what it takes to stay on a pedestal all the time. At some point I'd be sure to get tired, or sad, or just worn down, or I'd take a job that's not Discordian enough, and then I'd topple off and be revealed for an inadequate sham. I don't want to get ousted from the club, so it's best not to join.

No... better to stay down here with the riff-raff.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:11:39 pm
I'll stay away from that racket, then... I don't have what it takes to stay on a pedestal all the time. At some point I'd be sure to get tired, or sad, or just worn down, or I'd take a job that's not Discordian enough, and then I'd topple off and be revealed for an inadequate sham. I don't want to get ousted from the club, so it's best not to join.

No... better to stay down here with the riff-raff.

Here on the Wrong Side of the Tracks, we don't worry about that shit.  If you get depressed or tired or worried about some gargantuan bills you can't pay, we're still your friends.

We're not shiny, like those people on the pedastles, but we're here for you.  If, you know, we make the grade (we aren't very shiny).  Gallant knows better than to associate with small people, tired people, those of us who can't seem to change our horrible ways...But Goofus knows us, and so does Curly.  And they tell us, at least to those of us that listen, that it's okay to take a weekend off to curl up in bed with a book and just pretend that our problems are somewhere else.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 04:17:16 pm
I'll stay away from that racket, then... I don't have what it takes to stay on a pedestal all the time. At some point I'd be sure to get tired, or sad, or just worn down, or I'd take a job that's not Discordian enough, and then I'd topple off and be revealed for an inadequate sham. I don't want to get ousted from the club, so it's best not to join.

No... better to stay down here with the riff-raff.

Here on the Wrong Side of the Tracks, we don't worry about that shit.  If you get depressed or tired or worried about some gargantuan bills you can't pay, we're still your friends.

We're not shiny, like those people on the pedastles, but we're here for you.  If, you know, we make the grade (we aren't very shiny).  Gallant knows better than to associate with small people, tired people, those of us who can't seem to change our horrible ways...But Goofus knows us, and so does Curly.  And they tell us, at least to those of us that listen, that it's okay to take a weekend off to curl up in bed with a book and just pretend that our problems are somewhere else.

I think I like hanging out with Goofus, and with Curly. Those guys, they don't judge. They don't seem to mind when my hair's a mess and my makeup's all smeared from crying. They don't get critical when I lay on the couch wearing nothing but a fleece monstrosity and watch the remake of The Honeymooners with a bag of McDonald's apple pies like a typical fat American. They never, ever threaten to kick me out of the club when life is just too fucking hard to make jokes.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 04:24:14 pm
Gotta stay shiny.  Gotta stay ahead.  Gotta stay cheerful.  Gotta stay awake.  Look sharp, look happy, shine yourself up.  Be positive, be optimistic.  Be happy.  Be happy.  Grab each day like the joyous moment it is.  Jump out of bed fresh and ready.  Shine.  Smile.  Shine.  Take what the world shoves your way.  Wipe the effluence of your face, shining.  Be the beacon you're meant to be.  Stay on the bright side, the right side.  Keep smiling.  Pin your grin to the insides of your cheeks.  Stay true, stay shiny.  Keep going.  Keep going.

Shine.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:28:04 pm
Gotta stay shiny.  Gotta stay ahead.  Gotta stay cheerful.  Gotta stay awake.  Look sharp, look happy, shine yourself up.  Be positive, be optimistic.  Be happy.  Be happy.  Grab each day like the joyous moment it is.  Jump out of bed fresh and ready.  Shine.  Smile.  Shine.  Take what the world shoves your way.  Wipe the effluence of your face, shining.  Be the beacon you're meant to be.  Stay on the bright side, the right side.  Keep smiling.  Pin your grin to the insides of your cheeks.  Stay true, stay shiny.  Keep going.  Keep going.

Shine.

I'M SMILING!  SEE MY TEETH? 
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 04:31:48 pm
Gotta stay alternative. Gotta stay fresh, gotta stay now. Gotta stay ahead of the curve. Whatever those guys are doing, we need to make sure we're not doing that. Find the new thing, the hip thing, the thing nobody's thought of doing before. Make it funny. Make it funny. Make it funnier. Stay out of the mainstream, stay off the beaten path. That's right, but not too far off; gotta stay visible. Gotta perform, perform, perform for the audience. Can't lose that audience, now, nosirree we can't have that. Don't want to get too alternative, we might lose one and we need to be seen, need to be heard, need to be the cutting-edge for what's weird and modern and happening. But not too weird. Don't want to be offputting. Can't lose that shine, no, never never ever lose that shine. Smile!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:34:46 pm
Gotta stay alternative. Gotta stay fresh, gotta stay now. Gotta stay ahead of the curve. Whatever those guys are doing, we need to make sure we're not doing that. Find the new thing, the hip thing, the thing nobody's thought of doing before. Make it funny. Make it funny. Make it funnier. Stay out of the mainstream, stay off the beaten path. That's right, but not too far off; gotta stay visible. Gotta perform, perform, perform for the audience. Can't lose that audience, now, nosirree we can't have that. Don't want to get too alternative, we might lose one and we need to be seen, need to be heard, need to be the cutting-edge for what's weird and modern and happening. But not too weird. Don't want to be offputting. Can't lose that shine, no, never never ever lose that shine. Smile!

Stay true to your roots.  Worship at the feet of those who have come before you.  They were special; we are not.  Well, maybe a little.  Maybe enough to demand that audience, to play for the crowd, to play for everyone except yourself.  Which is hardly surprising, because if you're yourself, you won't have that audience, you won't be the main character, you'll just be another human.  You might even grow old & die. 

SHINE
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 04:39:10 pm
Isn't it fun to pick your scabs? Peeeeeel the dead skin off in rings around the healed parts first, then finally, just pop that big old thick part right off and watch it bleeeeeed again and again.

Oh, you tell yourself it's healthy, after all: the wound never really got properly cleaned in the first place. That scab itself was a lie: a dried organic pie of hemoglobin, white blood cells and pebbles you didn't have the balls to scrape off when you first skinned that knee. But now...now the picking will fix that...will go back and right those wrongs.

Over and over and over again. Until it leaves a scar.

But everyone knows, scars are GOOD! Scars are a sign of battles won and lost! Battles with enemies foreign and domestic and...and...
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 04:41:23 pm
Be the hero; be the victim; be the narrator; be anything but extras in the back.  Be the center; bet the focus; make sure the spotlight is always on your face.  Find the light; find the words; make them up if you have to.  Make up your face; make up your past; make up your drama.  Make your own adventure more interesting than anyone else's.  Make sure your voice is heard.  Don't bother with content; don't bother with making sense; don't bother with truth.  Get to the front and howl until you drown out the others.  Be the center.  Become the center.  Make the self centered.  Shine.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 04:42:38 pm

Once you lose, you lose. Lose that audience, lose that shine, lose that pedestal, lose, loser. Lost. Realness. Gone. Sad, mundane, not a producer. We hate it when our heroes turn out to be made out of flesh and bone. Old and obscure, a nobody. Not real. Not for realness' sake, anyway. No longer doing the song and dance, not writing, not providing us with wisdom, just living for yourself in the end... is that what you want to be? A nobody? A nine-to-fiver? NO. Get back up on that stage and SHINE.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:47:42 pm
Remember, Kids:  Bad guys are bad guys.  They aren't human.  If they weren't human, they wouldn't be bad guys...They wouldn't oppose what you think is best for everyone.  They wouldn't laugh so much.  They wouldn't try to convince people to laugh at things that aren't funny, things that no right-thinking person would joke about.

And since they aren't human, they have no feelings.  It is perfectly okay to say whatever you like to or about them, either to make your friends laugh or to show how much you really hate how much they're wrong.  It's okay to ignore them.  In fact, it's better to cut off all contact with them, and leave them to their fate, secure in the virtuousness of your own position.

Because they're the BAD GUYS.  They don't SHINE.  They ANTI-SHINE.  So you can just leave them broken in the dirt with the other things you've discarded over the course of your life.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2012, 04:49:53 pm
It's OK to leave your old toys and go find new ones. And new friends, and new gurus. The old ones just weren't fun anymore, anyway. All the shiny parts got rubbed off long ago, and they were all worn out and shabby.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 04:57:41 pm
Whaaaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 04:59:36 pm
Whaaaaaaaaa!

That's how it goes
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
That's how it goes
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 05:00:42 pm
Whaaaaaaaaa!

That's how it goes
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
That's how it goes

SHINE.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 05:10:17 pm
"Everybody knows the dice are loaded
everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.
Everybody knows the war is over
everybody knows that the good guys lost.

Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
for your ribbons and bowwwwws..."
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 05, 2012, 05:45:23 pm
I like how weird the threads around here get.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 05:47:48 pm
You People have the right to go to IHOP and drink directly from all of the syrup dispensers, although you won't be welcomed back.

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 05, 2012, 05:56:05 pm
Dammit, can't We People just do both?!

I enjoy both double shots of syrup AND the slow descent into madness!

Which, unsuprisingly...might not be mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 05:57:53 pm
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 06:01:03 pm
You People have the right to breathe, no matter what They™ say.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 05, 2012, 06:01:39 pm
Possibly related to Boyz in Da Hood?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 06:02:14 pm
You People have the right to breathe, no matter what They™ say.

However, there is Associated Cost.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 06:03:11 pm
You People have the right to breathe, no matter what They™ say.

However, there is Associated Cost.

You, SPECIFICALLY, have the right to ride the wild wombat, if you know what I mean...And I think you do, LMNO1.










1  IF that's your REAL name.

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
You People have the right to breathe, no matter what They™ say.

However, there is Associated Cost.

And your Mileage May Vary.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 06:08:06 pm
You People have the right to use obscure sports terminology in everyday conversation.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 06:11:03 pm
You People have the right to ignore the migratory patterns of Canadian geese.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 06:14:51 pm
You People have a right not to pay attention to the news.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 06:15:18 pm
You People have the right to spin like dervish in the front yard and scare the living piss out of the neighbors.

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 05, 2012, 06:27:17 pm
You People have the right to sell your soul for a paycheck.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 06:29:25 pm
You People have the right to wear a tinfoil derby.  You People also have the right to be Pulp Heroes.  Additionally, and for a limited time, You People have the right to live in the future.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2012, 06:35:06 pm
Do I have the right to feel dumb for not getting it?
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 09:24:17 pm
Do I have the right to feel dumb for not getting it?

There's nothing to get.  I was only riffing.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2012, 09:29:51 pm
Ah. I have a bit of the mindfog today it seems.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2012, 09:30:35 pm
Ah. I have a bit of the mindfog today it seems.

S'okay.  I was gonna tell you, but then the board crashed all fucking day.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2012, 09:31:19 pm
I have the right to randomly have the right neurons not fire. My internet also has the same rights when it swallows pd!
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 05, 2012, 10:02:12 pm
Ah. I have a bit of the mindfog today it seems.

S'okay.  I was gonna tell you, but then the board crashed all fucking day.

I thought that was just my webbernets. Sometimes I use too much of my Sprint "Unlimited Data" plan and they throttle me back down to 1x speed for the rest of the month. I blame Al Gore and the #OWS movement.

If we had only Conservatives in office, it would be a truly FREE MARKET and the Lib'ruls wouldn't be able to pass laws that force corporations to have to tell lies and recoup expenses to keep themselves out of the poorhouse.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Oysters Rockefeller on March 05, 2012, 10:10:19 pm
Corporations are the 99%.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Don Coyote on March 05, 2012, 10:49:55 pm
What Makes You Not a Discordian?

I don't eat hotdogs on Friday.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Sita on March 06, 2012, 02:45:54 am
Gotta stay shiny.  Gotta stay ahead.  Gotta stay cheerful.  Gotta stay awake.  Look sharp, look happy, shine yourself up.  Be positive, be optimistic.  Be happy.  Be happy.  Grab each day like the joyous moment it is.  Jump out of bed fresh and ready.  Shine.  Smile.  Shine.  Take what the world shoves your way.  Wipe the effluence of your face, shining.  Be the beacon you're meant to be.  Stay on the bright side, the right side.  Keep smiling.  Pin your grin to the insides of your cheeks.  Stay true, stay shiny.  Keep going.  Keep going.

Shine.

This depresses the hell out of me.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 06, 2012, 04:41:26 am
Then you must not be a Really Real Discordian for Realness.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2012, 05:41:43 am
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"

They grow here. For reals.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on March 07, 2012, 12:36:19 am
YOUR MOTHER RAISED YOU NOT TO BE A DISCORDIAN AND NOW YOU'VE FOULED IT ALL UP BY COMING HERE. YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 07, 2012, 08:58:27 am
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"

They grow here. For reals.

Boysenberry pie is teh yummeh
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: hirley0 on March 07, 2012, 11:33:09 am
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"
They grow here. For reals.
Boysenberry pie is teh yummeh
Yeah second: 3:33&1/3 1of 3
those are Black{Large that at times have a red tint on the under side,
HAVE a UNieek flavor, that has a strong local following. can be had by
sneaking over the fence on a bright moon lit night Such as tonight
only in the berry season ? Late fall ?/? Aug Sept as  i REMember  /-/
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LuciferX on March 07, 2012, 11:41:22 am
The cellphone no longer resides in the mailbox
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"
They grow here. For reals.
Boysenberry pie is teh yummeh
Yeah second: 3:33&1/3 1of 3
those are Black{Large that at times have a red tint on the under side,
HAVE a UNieek flavor, that has a strong local following. can be had by
sneaking over the fence on a bright moon lit night Such as tonight
only in the berry season ? Late fall ?/? Aug Sept as  i REMember  /-/

Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 07, 2012, 11:41:55 am
Indeed... IIRC its a cross between raspberries, blackberries and some other berry.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on March 07, 2012, 12:41:16 pm
I mean,  "WHAT THAT FUCK IS A FUCKING BOYSENBERRY?!?"
They grow here. For reals.
Boysenberry pie is teh yummeh
Yeah second: 3:33&1/3 1of 3
those are Black{Large that at times have a red tint on the under side,
HAVE a UNieek flavor, that has a strong local following. can be had by
sneaking over the fence on a bright moon lit night Such as tonight
only in the berry season ? Late fall ?/? Aug Sept as  i REMember  /-/

I UNDERSTOOD THAT! 


...And it was quite evocative and poetic.  Now I want to go sneaking over fences at night to poach wild berrys.
Title: Re: What Makes You Not a Discordian?
Post by: navkat on March 07, 2012, 01:09:21 pm
But it was just a dream.