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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 04:02:32 pm

Title: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 04:02:32 pm
Well, it's election day today.  More to the point, tonight is election night, and that means Roger gets his jones on, bigtime.  3 TVs (Fox, CSPAN, MSNBC), so there's RWNs to the left of me, LWNs to the right, and boring-ass non-partisan monkeys in the middle.  5 laptops for talking smack with friends in Germany, Guam, and Okinawa.  Coffee will be on all night.

Some people drink at election parties, but not us.  We are serious about this shit, and only caffiene will do.  By wednesday morning, I'll be stuck to the easy chair, crusted in my own filth, like a junkie waking up with a needle in his arm.  Some people might be disgusted by that, but shut up.  I'm an addict, and I make no bones about it. 

Bets will be made.  Butthurt will be had, especially if the house changes hands (unlikely) or the senate goes further democrat (likely).  But the REAL commotion will, of course, be the presidential race, which I am here and now stating will go to Obama with 300-308 electoral votes.  Nate, if you let me down, you bastard, I will have your guts for garters.

Anyway, no matter who wins, we'll be treated to two supposedly grown men in full election rut.  Their eyes will be squinted, and they will speak nothing but gibberish.  And THAT, my friends, is the real payoff...Watching two alleged homo sapiens act like howler monkeys.

Keep your football, your baseball, and your basketball.  Enjoy them.  But leave me and my election alone together.  We have something special, something we can't explain to those not in love.

Up the Revolution, Gasbags,
Roger
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 06, 2012, 04:23:15 pm
It is my favorite sport. Like the Olympics, it can only happen every four years. Unless you count mid-terms and the Winter Olympics, which.. meh.

I'm just looking forward to slapping the "Don't blame me, I voted for Nixon" sticker on my car tomorrow.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 04:25:33 pm
It is my favorite sport. Like the Olympics, it can only happen every four years. Unless you count mid-terms and the Winter Olympics, which.. meh.

I'm just looking forward to slapping the "Don't blame me, I voted for Nixon" sticker on my car tomorrow.

If there's no decision tonight, I'll be making a "A PLAGUE ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES" sticker for the Toyota.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 06, 2012, 04:29:37 pm
Voting machines in Ohio are already blowing up.
Also, Fox says TEH BLACK PANTHERS ARE GUARDING POLLS IN PHILLY.
And, of course, AZ and TX have their cops out and about looking for UN election monitors to beat up.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 06, 2012, 04:33:09 pm
Also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 04:37:52 pm
The Daily Beast (http://www.havingtroublevoting.com/) has a voting irregularity widget.

I sort of want to shake people. VOTE PROVISIONALLY if you haven't gotten an absentee ballot. VOTE PROVISIONALLY if there's some sort of irregularity.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 06, 2012, 04:52:37 pm
It being Oregon, most everyone I know already voted a week or so ago, and it's been a favorite sport of my fellow Portlanders to say to a near-stranger during casual conversation, "so, vote for Romney?" just for the indignant response.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 05:34:55 pm
Well, Capitol Grilling is offline.  Pretty sure the board owner didn't like us razzing him for voting for Romney, given his "I ONLY EVER VOTE INDEPENDENT/3RD PARTY" schtick.

Funny thing is, he's Tunisian.  I'm sure Romney's America will be very comfortable for him.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 05:46:40 pm
Back on, back off.

Zero must be using the same software they're using in Ohio voting booths.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 06, 2012, 05:48:42 pm
I just want to watch the teabillies flip out and get locked up in the coming weeks.  :fap:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 05:52:09 pm
Whee, let the voting interferance commence!

http://www.plunderbund.com/2012/11/05/true-the-vote-forged-signatures-to-get-observers-at-ohio-polls/

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171030/tea-party-group-blocks-florida-voters-stops-water-handouts-polls#
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 05:55:12 pm
Whee, let the voting interferance commence!

http://www.plunderbund.com/2012/11/05/true-the-vote-forged-signatures-to-get-observers-at-ohio-polls/

Ex post?  Can't see it.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:03:19 pm
:lulz: Voting irregularities up the wahzoo. SO MANY machine malfunctions and registration errors.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:03:50 pm
:lulz: Voting irregularities up the wahzoo. SO MANY machine malfunctions and registration errors.

Would someone post text, please?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 06:06:31 pm
Whee, let the voting interferance commence!

http://www.plunderbund.com/2012/11/05/true-the-vote-forged-signatures-to-get-observers-at-ohio-polls/

Ex post?  Can't see it.


Yesterday we reported that True the Vote was attempting to place observers at precincts in Central Ohio, focusing on African American districts.  We also noted that there might be some problems with the forms they submitted to the Franklin County Board of Elections (FCBOE).
 
The FCBOE met today and determined that True the Vote had likely falsified the forms submitted for general election observers. The new observer forms, filed over the past few days by True the Vote representative (and Hilliard Tea Party Member) Jan Loar, used candidate signatures copied from a previous set of forms filed in early October
 
All but one (Scott Rupert, an independent for U.S. Senate) of the six candidates whose names appeared on the original form had withdrawn permission to use their signatures prior to the submission of today’s forms.   During the BOE meeting Candidate Terri Jamison spoke up to say her name was “forged” on the latest round of forms.
 
The form for appointing observers reads ‘election falsification is a 5th degree felony’.  Election officials have confirmed that there will be a post-election investigation of True the Vote.
 
The forms have been rejected unanimously by all members (Rs and Ds) on the board.  True the Vote observers will not be allowed in Franklin County polling locations tomorrow.  Poll monitoring organizations expect they may still be stationed outside of polling locations.
 
Board member Zachary Manifold told us he was ”amazed that a group that goes to such extreme lengths to claim voting fraud in Ohio would knowingly forge or misuse signatures to try to gain access to Franklin County polling locations.”
 
According to a news release from the Department of Justice their personnel will monitor the election in Franklin County for Voting Rights Act violations.  The Voting Rights Act prohibits discrimination in the election process on the basis of race, color or membership in a minority language group.

Video from today’s BOE meeting is posted below, along with a copy of voting forms filed by True the Vote and letter from one of the candidates asking that her name not be used by True the Vote.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:09:56 pm
Hahahahahaha!

Someone's getting their bits fined off.  Maybe even some time in the hoosegow.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:10:59 pm
Screen cap of voting irregularities:
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md2vpySp6P1qm5ro8o1_500.png)

Second article:
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Update @5:45 pm pm ET: An independent analysis of the list of names challenged by Tampa Vote Fair’s Kimberly Kelley reveals the list is 40 percent black, which compares to 15 percent of registered voters who are black. Political scientists Daniel Smith of University of Florida and Michael Herron of Dartmouth College identified 73 people on the list using voter ID numbers in the Florida voter file. They also found just 16 percent of the voters on the list were registered as Republicans, compared to 33 percent of county voters. “We’re essentially seeing the privitzation of voter suppression,” says Smith, “and that should be highly disconcerting. Now we have private citizens through this organization Tampa Vote Fair doing their own data mining and matching and challenging potential citizens at the polls.”

*****

Tea Party activists in Florida’s largely black and electorally significant Interstate 4 corridor have worked furiously to put a damper on what has been a record-setting turnout thus far. In one of the most striking examples of voter suppression to emerge, Voting Rights Watch obtained a list of several dozen Hillsborough County voters who will be surprised to learn they cannot vote regular ballots thanks to last-minute challenges filed against them.

I’ve requested similar information from Miami-Dade, Orange, Pinellas and Seminole counties, but officials have not responded. A spokesperson for the Secretary of State’s Office, Chris Cate, said the state does not track voter challenges, so there is no way of knowing how widespread these sorts of challenges may be.

In Hillsborough County, seventy-seven people—forty of them in Tampa—won’t be able to file a regular ballot because the True the Vote–affiliated group Tampa Vote Fair has challenged their voting status. Of those, sixty-eight have been challenged because Tampa Vote Fair asserts they are ineligible due to a felony conviction. These people will not know that their vote has been challenged until they reach the polls and are forced to cast a provisional ballot. (Some of them may have already attempted to vote during the early voting period.)

According to documents provided to Voting Rights Watch by Hillsborough County Attorney’s office, all seventy-seven of the voter challenges were filed by Kimberly Kelley, Tampa Vote Fair’s president, and all are dated October 16, 2012—a full week after voter registration ended in Florida. Earlier this year, Kelley sent to the Hillsborough County Supervisor of Elections multiple lists of people she suspected were ineligible to vote because of felony convictions. One of those lists had 1,375 names on it, which the county supervisor forwarded on to the state to investigate, but which turned up no names yet of people improperly registered.

Kelley’s new list is significant in that it is an official under-oath declaration from Tampa Vote Fair that these people should not be allowed to vote. Kelley is putting herself at risk by filing the challenges. If any of the challenges are determined to be frivolous, then Kelley could be charged with a first-degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in prison, for each bogus challenge. The attorney general will make the determination of whether the challenges are frivolous or in good faith, but this is unchartered territory—perhaps the most extreme steps a True the Vote–affiliated group has taken to strip voters of election rights. Hillsborough County managing attorney Mary Helen Farris told me she is not aware of any voter challenges filed in 2008 or 2010.

All of Kelley’s challenges were made by matching state voter registration names and dates of birth with information from the state’s Department of Corrections database. In nine cases, she challenged voters based off them having the wrong addresses, while in the other sixty-eight she accuses of them of being “an adjudicated guilty felon.”

Florida’s laws around felony disenfranchisement and for challenging voters both have roots in a time and space when the state’s lawmakers were purposely trying to suppress black voters. The Brennan Center for Justice’s report “Voter Challengers” says:

    Many states originally enacted challenger laws to block minority voters’ access to the polls. Virginia, for instance, passed its first challenger law in the immediate wake of Reconstruction alongside a host of other suppressive measures, such as poll taxes and literacy tests, aimed at recently freed former slaves. Other states—like Florida, Ohio and Minnesota—similarly passed challenger legislation during the nineteenth century to suppress turnout in black communities.

The Brennan Center recommends that challengers bear the burden of proving a voter is ineligible through documented evidence before a legal challenge can be placed, while giving the presumption of eligibility—the presumption of innocence—to a voter. Brennan also recommends that voters should be shielded from frivolous challenges and given ample time to respond to a challenge before Election Day, as opposed to showing up at the polls and finding out that they can’t file a regular ballot.

The Controversy Over Bottled Water

Kelley’s challenges aren’t the only ones Tampa voters needed to worry about during the early voting period. Last Friday and Saturday, the last two official days of early voting, black voters and NAACP members were upset when Republican poll watchers challenged NAACP members for passing out water and offering chairs to voters standing in long lines in the hot sun.

Black voters have been turning out in record numbers, not only in Tampa but throughout the state. There are reports of people standing in line up to seven hours, many of them elderly and disabled—and at one Orlando site there was a bomb scare.

So NAACP members have been passing out water to help people deal with the heat. A Republican poll watcher reported this activity at the C. Blythe Andrews Jr. polling site in Tampa, a predominantly African-American district, and had the poll clerk stop the water distribution. According to NAACP political action chair Yvette Lewis, the Republican poll watcher accused the teams of bribing voters with the water, much like a challenge filed by a Republican poll watcher Sunday when helpers passed out fried fish.

Lewis said the water ban was made possible by a poll watcher assigned by the Democratic Party (all poll watchers are assigned by the political parties) who capitulated to the Republican poll watcher’s demands, in an effort to “pick and choose their battles.”

True the Vote–affiliated poll watchers filed similar challenges against the NAACP for passing out water in Houston. Right-wing blogger Matthew Vadum, who once wrote that it should be criminal to register low-income people to vote, wrote about the Houston NAACP Water-Gate caper saying:

    Poll watcher Eve Rockford said members of the left-wing so-called civil rights group appeared at the early polling place wearing NAACP-labeled clothing and 50 cases of bottled water. The activists handed out the water bottles to individuals standing in line waiting to vote. They were also “stirring the crowd” and “talking to voters about flying to Ohio to promote President Barack Obama,” said Rockford, who was trained in poll-watching by True the Vote, a prominent electoral integrity organization.

Lewis said the Republican poll watcher stood outside the polling place, “Grinning like, ‘Ha, I control you all, I shut you all down,’ because that’s what it felt like. We had all these people out here to help voters and this one man shut it down.”

But it didn’t seem to stop the flow of voter traffic. Black voter turnout at predominantly black districts hovered around 45 percent, which Lewis said was “very good” compared to 2008. But it also means that there‘s roughly half of remaining black eligible voters who have one more day to vote, tomorrow, which means lines could be even longer.


The early voting number totals are impressive—166,937 in total throughout Hillsborough County, the anchor of the important Interstate 4 corridor that includes Tampa, Orlando and Daytona Beach. In 2008, the total early voting numbers in Hillsborough County totalled 146,563—and that was with four more days of early voting than this year.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:11:55 pm
Screen cap of voting irregularities:
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md2vpySp6P1qm5ro8o1_500.png)

Dammit.  Can't see that, either.   :sad:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:12:40 pm
What. I'll try again.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:16:07 pm
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k557/Age_of_Alejandro/electionirreg10am.png)
How about now?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:18:11 pm
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k557/Age_of_Alejandro/electionirreg10am.png)
How about now?

Nope.  Photobucket's blocked here.

Thank you for trying, Garbo.  It can wait til I'm off of work.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:19:53 pm
Dammit. Sorry, Roger. For future reference, which photo sites can you see?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: President Television on November 06, 2012, 06:20:56 pm
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k557/Age_of_Alejandro/electionirreg10am.png)
How about now?

Wait. How's there an irregularity in Alberta? This was an American election, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:21:47 pm
Dammit. Sorry, Roger. For future reference, which photo sites can you see?

I can see it on PD's site, and there's one or two others.  But most image hosting sites are blocked for me.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 06:22:24 pm
Oh, Arizona...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/05/republican-candidates-robocalls-tell-ariz-democrats-wrong-polling-place/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=743ad08a61-Monday_Day_Election_11_5_2012&utm_medium=email


More than a half dozen Democrats in Scottsdale, Arizona have come forward to say that they received automated telephone calls — or robocalls — from Rep. Jeff Flake’s (R-AZ) Senate campaign that told them to vote in the wrong place.

“It was totally wrong,” lifelong Democrat Mary Crecco told KPNX. “And I feel like it was done purposely.”
 
The robocall, which said it was sponsored by Flake’s campaign, told Crecco to vote at Immanuel Bible Church, but her actual polling place is three miles away at Copper Canyon Elementary.
 




Other Democrats said they were informed that their polling places were up to 11 miles away from where they were supposed to vote.

For its part, the Flake campaign denied that Democratic voters were being targeted, insisting that only households with Republicans voters had been called.

“We had less than 10 voters contact the office with questions,” Flake spokesperson Andrew Wilder said. “The only Democrats who would have received the call should be those that line in a Republican household.”
 
But Crecco argued that no Republicans lived at her residence.

“Allegations like this where people are trying to disrupt the system — in this case Congressman Flake’s team — really are detrimental to the Democratic process,” Arizona Senate candidate Richard Carmona explained to KPNX.
 
A survey released by Public Policy Polling on Sunday found that Flake was leading Carmona by 5 points.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:25:26 pm
Wait. How's there an irregularity in Alberta? This was an American election, if I recall correctly.
The comment says "I should be able to vote in this even though I'm not an American. This stuff is important."
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 06, 2012, 06:27:59 pm
The Spanish version of the Maricopa county (I think?) flier listed the wrong date, even though the English one did so correctly.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: President Television on November 06, 2012, 06:28:42 pm
Wait. How's there an irregularity in Alberta? This was an American election, if I recall correctly.
The comment says "I should be able to vote in this even though I'm not an American. This stuff is important."

Ah, self-reported. That would explain how they've gathered the information this soon to begin with.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 06, 2012, 06:32:07 pm
wtf kind of name is 'True the Vote'?

also, are they claiming that their constituency is the sort that would stand in line for hours to vote, only to be successfully bribed by a bottle of water?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 06:33:00 pm
wtf kind of name is 'True the Vote'?

It sounds better than "NO BLACKS VOTE, PLS.  KTHXBAI".
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 06:38:30 pm
wtf kind of name is 'True the Vote'?

also, are they claiming that their constituency is the sort that would stand in line for hours to vote, only to be successfully bribed by a bottle of water?

Yes.  Yes, they are.  But not just a bottle of water, a bottle of water, and a CHAIR!

How DARE people try to make it livable when the GoP worked so hard to make 7 hour lines?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 06, 2012, 06:40:17 pm
Florida is a fucking mess. My sister isn't being allowed to leave work early to vote so she has enough time between both jobs unless she shows her boss a picture of her ballot. I told her that's super illegal and to call the board of elections immediately.

My mom is working a precinct again, and since Voldemort cut back on polling places, her precinct is supporting 3 districts between 2 cities. 3 different ballots that she has to regulate. The line is about 2 hours long, and people are leaving.


...Rhode Island was easy.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 07:36:09 pm
It being Oregon, most everyone I know already voted a week or so ago, and it's been a favorite sport of my fellow Portlanders to say to a near-stranger during casual conversation, "so, vote for Romney?" just for the indignant response.

Here at work, I am the ONLY member of the management team voting for Obama.

These asstards still think the financial crisis was brought on by people on foodstamps.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2012, 07:36:57 pm
Real men don't drink alcohol or caffeine for election night.

LSD and DMT all the way.  If the fucking machine elves can't make the process less tedious, nothing will.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 06, 2012, 08:53:55 pm
Dammit. Sorry, Roger. For future reference, which photo sites can you see?

I can see it on PD's site, and there's one or two others.  But most image hosting sites are blocked for me.

I've found that if you post the pic on Google+ and then copy the url from the "properties" of the pic, it goes around the nannywall.


As so:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oTNlIO1A5Ic/T-RiTbKE1MI/AAAAAAAAAjE/tCgcir_CoQA/s599/Einstein+YoMama.JPG)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 06, 2012, 08:55:01 pm
Also, I'm gonna go home and vote now.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 09:21:31 pm
No need, citizen.

It's being done for you.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/06/machine-turns-vote-for-obama-into-one-for-romney/#__utma=238145375.1656823558.1344870578.1352224369.1352236522.10&__utmb=238145375.2.10.1352236522&__utmc=238145375&__utmx=-&__utmz=238145375.1352236522.10.8.utmcsr=firstread.nbcnews.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/_news/2012/11/06/14967986-first-thoughts-decision-day&__utmv=238145375.|8=Earned%20By=msnbc%7Cworld%20news=1^12=Landing%20Content=Mixed=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=www.msnbc.msn.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Internal%20to%20Mixed=1&__utmk=31615997
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 06, 2012, 09:30:47 pm
Cable's still out :sad: No TV or Internet coverage of the madness at home for me.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2012, 09:46:39 pm
Breaking news!  The United States has elected a technocratic, out of touch multi-millonaire warmonger as President.  More news at 11.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2012, 09:47:37 pm
Are you all prepared for the motherfucking fury of FANTASTIC LATE POLLING DATA?

I sure as fuck am!
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(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2332/1557782051_033b1efb17_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Sita on November 06, 2012, 09:56:58 pm
Florida is a fucking mess. My sister isn't being allowed to leave work early to vote so she has enough time between both jobs unless she shows her boss a picture of her ballot. I told her that's super illegal and to call the board of elections immediately.

My mom is working a precinct again, and since Voldemort cut back on polling places, her precinct is supporting 3 districts between 2 cities. 3 different ballots that she has to regulate. The line is about 2 hours long, and people are leaving.


...Rhode Island was easy.
That explains the stupid long line we had this morning. And we were there when they opened the doors, which usually has us in and out quick.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 10:03:34 pm
Florida is a fucking mess. My sister isn't being allowed to leave work early to vote so she has enough time between both jobs unless she shows her boss a picture of her ballot. I told her that's super illegal and to call the board of elections immediately.

My mom is working a precinct again, and since Voldemort cut back on polling places, her precinct is supporting 3 districts between 2 cities. 3 different ballots that she has to regulate. The line is about 2 hours long, and people are leaving.


...Rhode Island was easy.
That explains the stupid long line we had this morning. And we were there when they opened the doors, which usually has us in and out quick.

It seems that some states, particularly swing states with Republican governors, have deliberately made things more difficult, and have done things to FUBAR the lines.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 06, 2012, 10:18:44 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yR4fx7tnbk8/UJmMPaXWwbI/AAAAAAAABBQ/HrG7AwNe6pc/s300/junkie.png)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 06, 2012, 10:25:25 pm
Guy's doin' it wrong; I usually inject into my testicles.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Richter on November 06, 2012, 10:29:38 pm
"American means rights squirrel tossers."  - statement of Truth given to exit pollster / hipsters
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 12:47:12 am
Breaking news!  The United States has elected a technocratic, out of touch multi-millonaire warmonger as President.  More news at 11.

That about sums it up.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 12:48:22 am
Quote from: BBC
Based on exit polls, US news organisations have called Vermont for President Barack Obama and Indiana and Kentucky for Republican Mitt Romney.

Exit polls showed Virginia, a critical swing state, locked in a dead heat.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 01:25:30 am
O FUCK O FUCK O FUCK
DO NOT WANT MAGIC UNDERWEAR THEOCRACY KILL KILL KILL...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 01:27:57 am
O FUCK O FUCK O FUCK
DO NOT WANT MAGIC UNDERWEAR THEOCRACY KILL KILL KILL...

Relax.  It's too late to do anything, and too early to call.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 07, 2012, 01:29:00 am
O FUCK O FUCK O FUCK
DO NOT WANT MAGIC UNDERWEAR THEOCRACY KILL KILL KILL...

Relax.  It's too late to do anything, and too early to call.

It's going to be a tight race... which makes me despair for humanity.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 01:34:21 am
JUST...STFU. OR GIVE ME A RIDE TO GODDAM EUROPE.

Yeah, I know it's bad, but not THIS goddamn bad.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: hunter s.durden on November 07, 2012, 01:59:53 am
Voting machines in Ohio are already blowing up.
Also, Fox says TEH BLACK PANTHERS ARE GUARDING POLLS IN PHILLY.
And, of course, AZ and TX have their cops out and about looking for UN election monitors to beat up.

HAHAHA, I just learned about the election monitor thing last night.
FUCK YEAH, WILD WEST MOTHERFUCKERS!
W
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: hunter s.durden on November 07, 2012, 02:01:22 am
O FUCK O FUCK O FUCK
DO NOT WANT MAGIC UNDERWEAR THEOCRACY KILL KILL KILL...

Relax.  It's too late to do anything, and too early to call.

It's going to be a tight race... which makes me despair for humanity.

Randall Terry was on the ballot in my state.
In case you needed more despair for the collection.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 02:02:54 am
O FUCK O FUCK O FUCK
DO NOT WANT MAGIC UNDERWEAR THEOCRACY KILL KILL KILL...

Relax.  It's too late to do anything, and too early to call.

It's going to be a tight race... which makes me despair for humanity.

No it's not.  The media say it's going to be a tight race because then it gets ratings up.  If everyone tuned in and Wolf Fucking Blitzer came out and said "it's a done deal: four more years for Obama", two things would happen:

1) Wingnuts would shriek about liberal media bias, the tyranny of maths etc and not watch CNN anymore, causing CNN to take a rating hit, and

2) everyone else would go "oh, OK" and not sit on the edge of their seat in anticipation.

There's also a third reason why vested interests would like you to believe the race is almost equal, but that's secret.  Oh, OK then, if Obama goes "ooh scary Mormon Underpants in the White House", it gets the dopes who flatter themselves by the name of "Democratic Party activists" all in a bother and to "get the vote out".

Then when Obama wins by a huge margin, they can turn around to everyone else and say "well, that's a mandate if I ever saw one.  Do you really want to go against the will of The People in giving the banks another trillion dollars?"  So they have no reason to deny the race is close whatsoever.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 02:06:50 am
Quote from: BBC
Exit polls showed Mr Romney won Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.

Mr Obama has taken Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington DC.

So far, that translates to

Obama: 123 electoral collage votes

Romney:  153 electoral college votes.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 02:14:02 am
there wasn't any police presence at the polling place battling blue helmets.
i want my money back!  :argh!:

also, it only took about 5 minutes to vote.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 02:18:03 am
You should have turned up, then refused to vote until a Swedish observer was present.  If questioned, refer to "them" stealing your vote, then wink conspiratorally.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 02:24:43 am
well, damn. if i was quicker on my feet, i would have thought to do that!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: hunter s.durden on November 07, 2012, 02:47:22 am
HSD Election coverage:
Unlike Roger, coffee won't do the trick. I need serious chemicals with more than 10 letters to get my magics flowing, namely because I am serious about my war on coherence.
And so, early in the night, the delusions of reference have begun:
Randall Terry is now living in a place called Romney, West Virginia, and he received over 100 hundred votes here in what I must now call "The Mordor of Appalachia"

For those of you unfamiliar with Randall Terry, here's a video of him being turned gay by wizard and fellow politician Vermin Supreme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9nxFLXrKU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9nxFLXrKU)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 02:48:32 am
PA, Wisconsin and New Hampshire just went for Obama.  Electoral vote count is now 143 to 153.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 02:53:39 am
NBC currently has it at 158 v 153 in favor of Obama.  Based on what they are reporting in numbers so far, I think we'll see Obama picking up Ohio and Colorado, he already has Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.  There really is no way for Romney to win.


Also, Scott Brown just lost to Warren.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 02:55:51 am
So the Democrats are goingto pick up, effectively, at least two seats in the Senate.  My candidate, Angus King, won his Senate race here in Maine.  He's an Independent and will lean Left far more oftenthan he will lean right.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 02:58:11 am
Gay Marriage is failing, so far, in Maine.   :argh!:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 03:04:55 am
So far, as expected.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 07, 2012, 03:13:36 am
I hope Grijalva "The Green Mustache" gets into Congress.

Also I hope Bill Beard gets County Recorder. 

Not even shitting you about these guys.  Beard and 'stache combo. :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 07, 2012, 03:16:07 am
Notice they're "calling" states with unpredictable criteria. Some states are called for a candidate with a 10 point lead, others when a candidate has a 5 point lead, and still others are called for a candidate when the OTHER candidate is in the lead. Unpredictable, unless of course their entire purpose is to maintain the appearance of an exact tie as long as possible.

The linchpin is Ohio. Expect that to be "too close to call" until after midnight.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: hunter s.durden on November 07, 2012, 03:18:29 am
So far, as expected.

Such an optimist.
Meatloaf convinced me this will be Mittens' Kingdom
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 03:19:00 am
They have to string it out-- they've already sold the ad time.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 03:22:30 am
Quote from: BBC
In one of the first swing states to fall, Mr Obama won Michigan, repeating his 2008 victory there.

Mr Romney's father George was governor of Michigan in the 1960s and Mitt Romney was born and raised there.

But the president's 2009 rescue of the car industry helped seal the deal with the state's voters, analysts say.

Mr Obama also took Pennsylvania, continuing a Democratic streak dating back to 1992. He also held New Hampshire and Minnesota, states he won in 2008 but which the Republicans hoped to take from him.

Elsewhere, Mr Romney won Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

Mr Obama has taken Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington DC.

Of the states called so far, Indiana switched hands from 2008, when Mr Obama narrowly won it. Mr Obama also failed to hold a single Nebraska electoral vote he won in 2008.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 03:58:27 am
I think we may have a Florida recount in our future.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 04:00:44 am
florida recount is required for 1% or less, right?
how about ohio and virginia? they look pretty damn close, too...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:06:01 am
I'm not sure, but yeah,someone needs to win by more than 1% in Florida to avoid a recount.


West coast is coming in, and according to NBCNews, Obama is 27 electoral votes away from the win.  And Oregon, Nevada, and Iowa are still outstanding.  So Obama just needs Ohio and two of those states and he wins. Romney needs a hail mary at this point.


Romney's toast.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:08:23 am
I'm not sure, but yeah,someone needs to win by more than 1% in Florida to avoid a recount.


West coast is coming in, and according to NBCNews, Obama is 27 electoral votes away from the win.  And Oregon, Nevada, and Iowa are still outstanding.  So Obama just needs Ohio and two of those states and he wins. Romney needs a hail mary at this point.


Romney's toast.

Hell, even with the recount, Obama's gonna get FL, and that's all he needs.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 04:11:33 am
Notice they're "calling" states with unpredictable criteria. Some states are called for a candidate with a 10 point lead, others when a candidate has a 5 point lead, and still others are called for a candidate when the OTHER candidate is in the lead. Unpredictable, unless of course their entire purpose is to maintain the appearance of an exact tie as long as possible.

The linchpin is Ohio. Expect that to be "too close to call" until after midnight.
yeah, i don't get it.
like WI looks really damn close, with only 36% reported in, yet they're calling it...
is it disclosed on any of the various networks what their methods are for making the call?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:15:06 am
It's a combination of exit polls, actual returns, looking at what portions of the state have reported results, etc.


Ohio has been called for Obama.  Game Over!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:16:11 am
...and the funeral on Fox News has begun.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:16:32 am
My parents seemed a bit nervous, but their county went blue, which isn't a surprise. My sister did make it to vote, so she's happy.

I'm just fearing Romney blowing a shit fit and paying a great deal of money for "recounts." That and projections always make me nervous. Shit can change.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: hunter s.durden on November 07, 2012, 04:18:10 am
HSD update:
The first peak is hitting and I'm starting to believe Obama will win based on the board.

It's a shame because I keep watching this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY&feature=relmfu)
of Michael Bolton and wish I could do the Caribbean escape thing.

If I keep my college money it will kill my pirate plans I just made 10 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:21:23 am
My parents seemed a bit nervous, but their county went blue, which isn't a surprise. My sister did make it to vote, so she's happy.

I'm just fearing Romney blowing a shit fit and paying a great deal of money for "recounts." That and projections always make me nervous. Shit can change.


Florida won't matter.  He has 274 already without Florida being called and Colorado, Nevada, and Virginia are still outstanding.  He's won and he's won handily.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:22:46 am
Even Fox News called it.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 04:23:54 am
(http://splitsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/president-obama-laughing.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:24:27 am
AND THE REPUBLICANS START CRYING!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 07, 2012, 04:26:24 am
A bunch of lunatics just ran screaming through the halls of the building I'm holed up in for Internets. Damn near shat myself.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 04:28:47 am
So, it looks like we're going to have popular vote misaligned with electoral college by a narrow margin again, huh?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:29:15 am
Naw.  Cali will rob me of that pleasure.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:29:37 am
Romney apparently sulking and won't say shit to anyone.

:hammer:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:30:11 am
His people are already blaming:

1.  The media, over the 47% thing, and
2.  Hurricane Sandy
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:30:23 am
Fox News has called it but Karl Rove is clearly not a believer.  I think the poor man needs an adult.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:31:03 am
Fox News has called it but Karl Rove is clearly not a believer.  I think the poor man needs an adult.

Well, there ARE a lot of votes to be counted.

He's living in 2000, though.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 04:34:37 am
Naw.  Cali will rob me of that pleasure.

it is fully anticipated that this is so?
damn.
what about faithless electors?  we can still hold out hope for drama there, right? :p
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:35:04 am
HA HA, Fox News is going to grill it's own Decision Desk that's been making their projections.  This is HILARIOUS!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:37:54 am
His people are already blaming:

1.  The media, over the 47% thing, and
2.  Hurricane Sandy

The Northeast was blamed for everything on my end. Apparently we ARE the 47%.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:46:10 am
Balance of Power doesn't look fantastic, but I do think it looks "better."

Both Legitimate Rape and God-Given Rape were trounced, thankfully.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 07, 2012, 04:50:13 am
when's the concession speech? popcorn's getting cold.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 07, 2012, 04:52:20 am
Romney seems to be eating the same bunk Karl Rove is eating so I don't think it will be coming soon.


Also, same sex marriage is now passing in Maine by a fairly comfortable margin. 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:54:25 am
Naw.  Cali will rob me of that pleasure.

it is fully anticipated that this is so?
damn.
what about faithless electors?  we can still hold out hope for drama there, right? :p

Popular vote just about there.

Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada also going to Romney.

So make sure to send the GIM crowd some hankies.

Also, Donald Trump now bellowing some weird shit about revolution.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:54:43 am
when's the concession speech? popcorn's getting cold.

Not going to be one.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:55:46 am
when's the concession speech? popcorn's getting cold.

Not going to be one.

He said he "only prepared a victory speech."
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 04:56:39 am
when's the concession speech? popcorn's getting cold.

Not going to be one.

He said he "only prepared a victory speech."

I think he's just in a state of complete disbelief.

His money < the Black guy.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 07, 2012, 04:59:08 am
Clearly, the Republicans failed because they haven't been batshit crazy enough for the past 12 years.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:03:17 am
Clearly, the Republicans failed because they haven't been batshit crazy enough for the past 12 years.

Some of Romney's people are now saying the "election wasn't right".

 :lulz:

Denial is a wonderful thing.

Oh, and the Southern strategy is finally dead.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 07, 2012, 05:06:37 am
Clearly, the Republicans failed because they haven't been batshit crazy enough for the past 12 years.

Some of Romney's people are now saying the "election wasn't right".

 :lulz:

Denial is a wonderful thing.

Oh, and the Southern strategy is finally dead.

God I fucking hope so. The election may have been close, and I'm not particularly fond of Obama, but if it means that there are finally too few biblethumping Confederates to win a national election, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:10:06 am
Clearly, the Republicans failed because they haven't been batshit crazy enough for the past 12 years.

Some of Romney's people are now saying the "election wasn't right".

 :lulz:

Denial is a wonderful thing.

Oh, and the Southern strategy is finally dead.

God I fucking hope so. The election may have been close, and I'm not particularly fond of Obama, but if it means that there are finally too few biblethumping Confederates to win a national election, I'll take it.

Well, that's about it.  Florida is no longer a given, and without that, you can't win with flyover states.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 05:10:39 am
Romney is refusing to concede Ohio.

And so it begins...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:11:51 am
Romney is refusing to concede Ohio.

And so it begins...

Won't matter.  All the remaining states are going for Obama.  He gets any two of them, he wins.

Romney won't concede AT ALL.  He seems to think if he holds his breath and pouts, that he'll be president.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 05:13:57 am
On behalf of the Green Party,

:holds up hand, looks at anyone who did not vote for Romney or Johnson:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:14:22 am
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/donald_trump_loses_it_calls_for_revolution/

:hammer:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:15:33 am
Colorado called for Obama.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 07, 2012, 05:16:36 am
Quote
    He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

So far I'm seeing about a 1% difference between the two as far as popular votes go. I was not aware 1% was a large number. :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:17:26 am
Nevada to Obama.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:27:34 am
(http://www.zewp.com/dump/photo/obamamobile.gif)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 07, 2012, 05:28:59 am
Quote
    He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

So far I'm seeing about a 1% difference between the two as far as popular votes go. I was not aware 1% was a large number. :lulz:

If thats still the case then these following months will be hilarious
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 05:30:59 am
(http://www.zewp.com/dump/photo/obamamobile.gif)

Holy fucking shit. I choked on NOTHING!

:spittake:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 07, 2012, 05:33:25 am
Quote
    He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

So far I'm seeing about a 1% difference between the two as far as popular votes go. I was not aware 1% was a large number. :lulz:

If thats still the case then these following months will be hilarious

Actually I am wrong. It is significantly less than a 1% difference. Probably less than 10,000 votes. Trump can not math. :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Aucoq on November 07, 2012, 05:34:52 am
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/donald_trump_loses_it_calls_for_revolution/

:hammer:

 :lulz:

"Our nation is totally divided!" needs to be the rally cry of Trump's revolution.  Like totally!

On behalf of the Green Party,

:holds up hand, looks at anyone who did not vote for Romney or Johnson:

I voted Green (and Dem where there wasn't a Green candidate).  But then again this is Texas so you might as well stay home if you're not a bible-thumping conservative.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:37:30 am
Obama now ahead in the popular vote.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on November 07, 2012, 05:52:28 am
Not much of interest has happened, I'm shaking from 7 cups of coffee and no sleep, and my school bus leaves in 13 minutes. This is going to be a great day.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 05:59:30 am
ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND ROMNEY BAILED.

:crankey:

I was SO looking forward to he and Rove humiliating themselves.

TGRR,
Not feeling gracious in victory.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 07, 2012, 06:09:52 am
ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND ROMNEY BAILED.

:crankey:

I was SO looking forward to he and Rove humiliating themselves.

TGRR,
Not feeling gracious in victory.

Change around five sentences in his concession speech, and I suspect it was his victory speech.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Aucoq on November 07, 2012, 06:13:19 am
An old teacher of mine (who thinks the United States' rightful place is as Israel's bitch and, to top it off, is extremely racist) is terribly upset about the results of the election because "now it looks like Israel will have to attack Iran on its own."   :roll:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 06:14:26 am
This night was full of SQUEEEEE and LAWL.

Oh, and via George Takei's facebook:

Quote
Overheard: "And America proves once again, once you go black..."
 
Oh Myyy...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:16:37 am
My aunt is now bitching that Facebook deleted her anti-Obama rant, and that Obama owns the internet, and that we're fascist and that I'm officially a C-U-Next Tuesday and I'm not getting inheritance.

Or something.

 :?

But man, Romney looked like a tired robot, sounded like a tired robot, and could have done that with more pizazz.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 06:20:38 am
An old teacher of mine (who thinks the United States' rightful place is as Israel's bitch and, to top it off, is extremely racist) is terribly upset about the results of the election because "now it looks like Israel will have to attack Iran on its own."   :roll:

Tell him I said he can go volunteer.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 06:21:13 am
My aunt is now bitching that Facebook deleted her anti-Obama rant, and that Obama owns the internet, and that we're fascist and that I'm officially a C-U-Next Tuesday and I'm not getting inheritance.

Or something.

 :?

But man, Romney looked like a tired robot, sounded like a tired robot, and could have done that with more pizazz.

Tell your aunt to go fuck herself.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:30:26 am
My aunt is now bitching that Facebook deleted her anti-Obama rant, and that Obama owns the internet, and that we're fascist and that I'm officially a C-U-Next Tuesday and I'm not getting inheritance.

Or something.

 :?

But man, Romney looked like a tired robot, sounded like a tired robot, and could have done that with more pizazz.

Tell your aunt to go fuck herself.

I won't just yet, because my mother will find a way to bitchslap me through the internets for being disrespectful.

...I'll just let my mom do it for me after she sees the messages I just got.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:34:38 am
"ur a bitchass cunt and ur mother should be ashamed! u and ur stupid college, u think ur so smart compared to me. u know nothing about the eceonmy [sic] and i hope ur mom knows what an embarssment u are!"

...I changed my mind. Sorry mom.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 07, 2012, 06:37:51 am
"ur a bitchass cunt and ur mother should be ashamed! u and ur stupid college, u think ur so smart compared to me. u know nothing about the eceonmy [sic] and i hope ur mom knows what an embarssment u are!"

...I changed my mind. Sorry mom.

Seriously.  "Fuck right off."
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 07, 2012, 06:42:34 am
"ur a bitchass cunt and ur mother should be ashamed! u and ur stupid college, u think ur so smart compared to me. u know nothing about the eceonmy [sic] and i hope ur mom knows what an embarssment u are!"

...I changed my mind. Sorry mom.

your reply should be to just edit her post for spelling and grammar and send it back to her with the corrections.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 07, 2012, 06:46:58 am
"ur a bitchass cunt and ur mother should be ashamed! u and ur stupid college, u think ur so smart compared to me. u know nothing about the eceonmy [sic] and i hope ur mom knows what an embarssment u are!"

...I changed my mind. Sorry mom.

Wow, a bona-fide "Dun' need none of yer bullshit fancy edumacations!" hateshit. Classic.


your reply should be to just edit her post for spelling and grammar and send it back to her with the corrections.

I approve of this.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:47:55 am
She's an alcoholic. I almost forgive her. Almost.

My retort was this,

"I respect you as a family member, as my aunt, and as my mother's sister.  I ask that you return that respect, because it's what Pop [my grandfather/her father] would have wanted."

And left it at that. The high road is the best road when dealing with family.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote
    He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

Inciting violence, advocating the overthrow of the government of the United States....


Ah, the trouble with tribbles.....
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 07:05:43 am
Technically treason.
Technically free speech.
Technically a temper tantrum thrown by a spoiled little racist ginger bastard.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 07, 2012, 08:11:13 am
Im hearing a lot of people blame Gary Johnson for Romney's loss. Oh boy oh boy oh boy.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Aucoq on November 07, 2012, 08:49:16 am
She's an alcoholic. I almost forgive her. Almost.

My retort was this,

"I respect you as a family member, as my aunt, and as my mother's sister.  I ask that you return that respect, because it's what Pop [my grandfather/her father] would have wanted."

And left it at that. The high road is the best road when dealing with family.

Damn I love this reply.  Not only does the high road reinforce that you're the better person, but in my experience being civil instead of returning fire usually infuriates the person even more.  :lol:

Also  :lulz: @ "u and ur stupid college."


Tell him I said he can go volunteer.


I definitely will.  She's a product of South Africa's Apartheid era so having a black president who doesn't kiss the feet of Israel drives her insane.  :lol:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on November 07, 2012, 08:53:14 am
Dear America,
We had a special night together tonight, you and I.
While I was getting shitfaced on caffeine, you voted a bunch of apparent non-morons into public office, voted to legalize same-sex marriage, voted to legalize marijuana and kept Mittens and His Magic Underpants out of the White House for another four years. But on the other hand, the Two Man Con is as strong as ever before. Not many people voted third party, and most of those who did voted for former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, who exploited the fact that nobody knew who the fuck he was or what he did as governor to portray himself as a sort of Ron Paul with a human, progressive face. Nevermind his connections to the Koch brothers, the extremist right-wingers involved in his campaign or that his "non-interventionist" foreign policy not necessarily involved stopping drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan or closing Guantanamo. The Two Man Con now comes with a quirky little monkey to distract those smart-asses who don't fall for the main trick.

Another thing I noticed, America, was all the "experts" saying that this was such a very close race. It wasn't really. This was less close than 1916, 1960, 1976, 2000, 2004, and similar in closeness to 1968. But who wants to watch "welcome to election night on CNN, Obama is going to win and we're going to lead you through 7 hours of Obama winning important swing states"? 1. Unbalanced coverage between the two parties, no matte what their actual support are, will lead to people voting third party. 2. It will lead to accusations of Liberal/Conservative bias. 3. It will lead to less clicks, hits, views and ultimately, less money for those covering it.

You gave the Republitards a light beating tonight, but I'm fairly certain they'll regroup and find a way around the decreasing numbers of angry white men and scare Latinos, angry white women and African-Americans into voting for them. They still have a majority in Congress, anyway.

Dear America,
Hope is for presidents,
and dreams are for people who are sleeping.

See you in four years.
Love,
McCarthyesque Leninist
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Aucoq on November 07, 2012, 09:26:53 am
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd233/AndrogynousRockStar/Romney.jpg)

Well this guy certainly one-upped the people who try to shame you for not voting.   :lol:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 12:29:33 pm
Quote
    He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

So far I'm seeing about a 1% difference between the two as far as popular votes go. I was not aware 1% was a large number. :lulz:

It's also worth noting that in 2000 the situation was reversed, with Gore winning the popular vote and Bush being made President.

Also, I'd just like to take this time to point out I fucking called it.  Not even close.  Romney got trounced.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 12:57:13 pm
Wise Cain is wise.

And yes, it really felt like it was the media who were pushing the "too close to call" narrative as far as they could.

I thought this was relevant:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/math.png)

Rollover text: "As of this writing, the only thing 'razor thin' or 'too close to call' is the gap between the consensus poll forecaset and the result."
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 07, 2012, 01:58:20 pm
Naw.  Cali will rob me of that pleasure.

it is fully anticipated that this is so?
damn.
what about faithless electors?  we can still hold out hope for drama there, right? :p

Popular vote just about there.

Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada also going to Romney.

So make sure to send the GIM crowd some hankies.

Also, Donald Trump now bellowing some weird shit about revolution.

heh.... i haven't been there in ages.  i'll have to check in to investigate the froth.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 07, 2012, 02:08:32 pm
(http://i47.tinypic.com/35jb7g9.jpg)

No comment.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 07, 2012, 02:36:22 pm
Our politician- results went as expected. Obama lost my county, Feinestine is going back to Washington, Costa the blue dog is going back to Washington and so is Devin Nunes the super Republican (at least he didn't run unopposed this time). Prop thirty passed (education - rich people pay more taxes and our sales tax go up) and thirty eight went down (lowering everybody's taxes, but especially rich people's). So, more money for schools, there's no $150 jump in tuition for next semester, and $500 back in my pocket from this semester!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 07, 2012, 02:37:11 pm
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/07/karl_rove_on_fox_news_the_five_stages_of_conservative_grief.html
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 02:40:39 pm
I'm getting threatened, "MIDTERMS ARE COMING! MIDTERMS ARE COMING!"

Well, at least he has a better grasp of how shit works than the rest of the, "THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE FASCIST COMMUNIST MUSLIM TERRORIST I'M MOVING TO CANADA" crowd.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 02:44:50 pm
"ur a bitchass cunt and ur mother should be ashamed! u and ur stupid college, u think ur so smart compared to me. u know nothing about the eceonmy [sic] and i hope ur mom knows what an embarssment u are!"

...I changed my mind. Sorry mom.

your reply should be to just edit her post for spelling and grammar and send it back to her with the corrections.

I used to do that with the notes my boss left by the time clock ("DO NOT ASK FOR THANKGIVING OFF OR YOU CUOLD LOOSE YOUR JOB").
In red ink. Too bad facebook doesn't have red.  :lol:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 02:54:50 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img502/2379/87986399.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/3407/32576113.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img213/8040/54698844897374513983816.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 02:59:31 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img502/2379/87986399.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/3407/32576113.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img213/8040/54698844897374513983816.jpg)


Why do they hate FASHION!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 07, 2012, 03:27:03 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img502/2379/87986399.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/3407/32576113.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img213/8040/54698844897374513983816.jpg)


Why do they hate FASHION!

Because The Gays like fashion ergo, fashion is Satinic.(sic)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 07, 2012, 03:31:05 pm
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd233/AndrogynousRockStar/Romney.jpg)

Well this guy certainly one-upped the people who try to shame you for not voting.   :lol:

Ah yes, the FEMA death camp people. I met one of these recently. Actually, I've known them for years and I thought that they were pretty cool and easy going but one afternoon, they went off into 'they' want to take 'our' guns followed by the FEMA thing.

Turns out the 'camp' photograph touted by Glen Beck and others is genuine. It is a genuine photo of a camp in North Korea.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on November 07, 2012, 04:39:36 pm
I fell asleep just after Arizona was called by the BBC.

Half an hour later Ohio was called.

Why the shitcocking fuck on the one night I wanted to stay awake and be Insomnia Girl do I pass out from the sleepy?

Very pleased that God's Gift Rape and Legitimate Rape got trounced.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 04:42:09 pm
A whole lot of rich white people crying. (I wonder how much the hot chicks cost them?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20230802
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 07, 2012, 04:54:34 pm
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3rl4UoOW1qgg325o1_500.jpg)
:lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 04:58:19 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 05:02:29 pm
Not to mention the possibility of a new state. We could really witness the firepower of a fully-armed and operational Republican House. They could be big enough dicks and reject Puerto Rico's statehood IF that makes it to fruition.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Epimetheus on November 07, 2012, 05:11:28 pm
Didn't know we had a president, I thought we were an autonomous collective.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0 )
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on November 07, 2012, 05:44:17 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.

This is what is screwing them over. Being seen as a exlusive club of rich old angry white men means they lose the Latino vote.

They also are unpopular with young women.. Cant think why tho /sarcasm
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 06:03:45 pm
A whole lot of rich white people crying. (I wonder how much the hot chicks cost them?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20230802

I think I might die of pleasure.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on November 07, 2012, 06:21:35 pm
A whole lot of rich white people crying. (I wonder how much the hot chicks cost them?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20230802

I think I might die of pleasure.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

 :lol: I love the end frame.

I....don't get it though. Maybe it's my general sense of apathy, but if ROMNEY had won, yea I'd be pretty disappointed in people and would have concerns about womens' rights, gay rights, among other things, which I think would be legitimate to an extent at least, but I don't see the wailing and gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair and "OH GOD DOOMSDAY IS UPON US". While I may be somewhat emotionally invested in certain values I have and believe that Romney stands for the opposite of most of them, I don't see the emotional devastation and "OH NO WE JUST ELECTED HITLER 2!"
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 07, 2012, 06:23:41 pm
A whole lot of rich white people crying. (I wonder how much the hot chicks cost them?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20230802

I think I might die of pleasure.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

 :lol: I love the end frame.

I....don't get it though. Maybe it's my general sense of apathy, but if ROMNEY had won, yea I'd be pretty disappointed in people and would have concerns about womens' rights, gay rights, among other things, which I think would be legitimate to an extent at least, but I don't see the wailing and gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair and "OH GOD DOOMSDAY IS UPON US". While I may be somewhat emotionally invested in certain values I have and believe that Romney stands for the opposite of most of them, I don't see the emotional devastation and "OH NO WE JUST ELECTED HITLER 2!"

BECAUSE OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SOCIALIST BLACK GUY WHO DOESN'T WEAR BIGASS FLAG PINS AND WILL BRING DOWN GODS JUDGEMENT ON THIS WHOLE COUNTRY BY NOT BEING MEAN ENOUGH TO GAY PEOPLE
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 06:28:27 pm
This is frighteningly awful.  A sliver of Horrormirth, but mostly I feel contempt.

http://jezebel.com/5958490/twitter-racists-react-to-that-nigger-getting-reelected/gallery/1

A collection of tweets calling Obama a nigger.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:30:15 pm
This is frighteningly awful.  A sliver of Horrormirth, but mostly I feel contempt.

http://jezebel.com/5958490/twitter-racists-react-to-that-nigger-getting-reelected/gallery/1

A collection of tweets calling Obama a nigger.

You act like you're surprised.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 06:37:25 pm
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3rl4UoOW1qgg325o1_500.jpg)
:lulz:

Is that legit?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 07, 2012, 06:38:24 pm
No, but still funny.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 06:38:34 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.

I'm already hearing that Johnson Nadered Ohio.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 06:40:59 pm
This is frighteningly awful.  A sliver of Horrormirth, but mostly I feel contempt.

http://jezebel.com/5958490/twitter-racists-react-to-that-nigger-getting-reelected/gallery/1

A collection of tweets calling Obama a nigger.

You act like you're surprised.

What weirds me out is how young all these people seem to be. Straight up racism seems so... old-fashioned.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 07, 2012, 06:44:37 pm
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 06:45:07 pm
A whole lot of rich white people crying. (I wonder how much the hot chicks cost them?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20230802

I think I might die of pleasure.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

 :lol: I love the end frame.

I....don't get it though. Maybe it's my general sense of apathy, but if ROMNEY had won, yea I'd be pretty disappointed in people and would have concerns about womens' rights, gay rights, among other things, which I think would be legitimate to an extent at least, but I don't see the wailing and gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair and "OH GOD DOOMSDAY IS UPON US". While I may be somewhat emotionally invested in certain values I have and believe that Romney stands for the opposite of most of them, I don't see the emotional devastation and "OH NO WE JUST ELECTED HITLER 2!"

The problem is that the only thing the Republicans have really said was "It can't be Obama, he'll ruin this country." If you tell yourself something often enough you'll believe it. These people have basically brainwashed themselves into thinking that of all people Mitt Romney was the Republic's last best hope for survival. Now they expect a full rejection of the constitution, and the United States of America to become the United Soviet Socialist States of America. Some of them expect they'll wind up in FEMA trains and FEMA camps and FEMA coffins now too, I'm sure. I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 06:48:20 pm
You would think, but you also have the benefit of growing up north of the Mason-Dixon.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 06:51:48 pm
You would think, but you also have the benefit of growing up north of the Mason-Dixon.

Yeah, seems so. At least one of those tweets advocated attacking the North.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 06:53:13 pm
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 06:55:45 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 07:01:09 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.

Maybe we should paint it pink and only let Team Vodka in.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 07, 2012, 07:02:43 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.

Maybe we should paint it pink and only let Team Vodka in.

BUT THAT WOULD MAKE THE US FUCKIN FAGGOTS!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 07, 2012, 07:03:44 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.

Maybe we should paint it pink and only let Team Vodka in.

BUT THAT WOULD MAKE THE US FUCKIN FAGGOTS!

EXACTLY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE CELIBATE FAGGOTS!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 07, 2012, 07:04:30 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.

Maybe we should paint it pink and only let Team Vodka in.

BUT THAT WOULD MAKE THE US FUCKIN FAGGOTS!

EXACTLY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE CELIBATE FAGGOTS!

:lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 07, 2012, 07:06:16 pm
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.
These kids are also the ones who often believe in a post-racial society.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2012, 07:23:32 pm
I love how racists think "it's called the WHITE House" and variations thereof is terribly witty.

Maybe we should paint it pink and only let Team Vodka in.


I'm LMNO, and I approve of this message.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2012, 07:36:34 pm
Immortal Technique (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeze78iUxac)'s approach is designed to rile up wingnuts even further:

Quote
I paint the White House black and park my car on the lawn
Marry a Muslim girl and fuck her five times a day (WHAT?)
Every time right before we shower and pray (HA!)

Also worth listening to for such great lines as:

Quote
I got a hundred shooters with me, Rugers shoot you through the kidney
Stand in front of the judge and lie quicker than Scooter Libby
I'm runnin through the city - dear God
If I merk the racist Rush Limbaugh I wonder would you forgive me? (Huh?)
Somebody told me Glenn Beck is the Klan's Over
See ya, time to let him see a damn soldier
Flip your Landrover, I told ya I blam toasters
Gun pop off like the mouth of Ann Coulter
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 08:49:09 pm
You would think, but you also have the benefit of growing up north of the Mason-Dixon.

Yeah, seems so. At least one of those tweets advocated attacking the North.

My friends and I just discussed this, should someone actually CONSIDER a 2nd Civil War.

1: The "Liberal Northeast" is the most populated part of the nation. It would take everyone in every red state to take up arms to even try.
2: We may not have as many "guns" but we have the most National Guard presence. Rhode Island, for instance, is where the Guard started AND has the 2nd largest presence of guardsmen IN THE NATION. We have arsenals full of goodies.
3: They would have to be exceptionally stupid to even TRY to raise an army.
4: Navy? Yeah, we got them too, and a lot of Coast Guard and generally angry fishermen.

Seriously, if they haven't already, I'm waiting for someone to go, "We should burn all their universities!" Because well, someone tried to insult me for going to a "liberal arts college." Because liberal arts means liberal government. Or something...good thing I actually go to a research university.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 07, 2012, 08:55:50 pm
So, Linda McMahon spent 76 million dollars in CT on a congressional and a senate run....and lost.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 07, 2012, 08:59:29 pm
So, Linda McMahon spent 76 million dollars in CT on a congressional and a senate run....and lost.

 :lulz:

She didn't lose. She got slaughtered.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 07, 2012, 09:05:32 pm
So, Linda McMahon spent 76 million dollars in CT on a congressional and a senate run....and lost.

 :lulz:

She didn't lose. She got slaughtered.

In a weird way, this pleased me more than Romney not winning. I was talking to one of my clients today about the trouncing of McMahon and she said "Why didn't McMahon just take the 76 million and establish a foundation to achieve whatever social good she claimed to provide without having to run for office?"

Interesting point. Linda McMahon carpet bombed our mailbox with expensive glossy flyers and choked up our tv with ads all of which DID NOT WORK. Nor did her trick of pretending to be pro-Obama. Given that there's only 8 million people in CT, she could have just given everyone a million dollars and saved 68 million. Boom! Poverty over.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 07, 2012, 10:17:24 pm
There's some perspective for you. If politics was about the good of the American people, the rich motherfuckers who drop millions on campaigns would be putting them instead into college funds, food banks, and financial aid charities for people struggling to pay their mortgages. It's about consolidating power, not benefiting the people.

Of you look at the insane distribution of wealth in the US and how much the rich have compared to the poor, it becomes immediately readily apparent that poverty and lack of education could be absolutely wiped out with a tiny fraction of the altruism that the rich claim to have. For example, a six million dollar fund would feed, clothe, house, and educate (K-PhD) every resident of the State of Washington into perpetuity, but although the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has given away something like $26,000,000 since inception, that's not on the list.

Economically speaking, the only reason to maintain such an enormous wealth disparity is that our economic system is dependent on an extreme economic disparity in order to maintain the power and wealth concentration of the elite. It's not a very functional economic system, unless the function we're hoping for is widespread poverty.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 07, 2012, 10:18:38 pm
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3rl4UoOW1qgg325o1_500.jpg)
:lulz:

 :lulz: That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 08, 2012, 12:39:03 am
So, Linda McMahon spent 76 million dollars in CT on a congressional and a senate run....and lost.

 :lulz:

She didn't lose. She got slaughtered.

In a weird way, this pleased me more than Romney not winning. I was talking to one of my clients today about the trouncing of McMahon and she said "Why didn't McMahon just take the 76 million and establish a foundation to achieve whatever social good she claimed to provide without having to run for office?"

Interesting point. Linda McMahon carpet bombed our mailbox with expensive glossy flyers and choked up our tv with ads all of which DID NOT WORK. Nor did her trick of pretending to be pro-Obama. Given that there's only 8 million people in CT, she could have just given everyone a million dollars and saved 68 million. Boom! Poverty over.

Thanks...  Rephrasing that a bit for FB...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 08, 2012, 02:01:24 am
that would have take 8 trillion dollars...
am i missing humor, or was that just a miscalculation?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 08, 2012, 02:20:27 am
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.

WTF went wrong?  :x
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 08, 2012, 02:32:11 am
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.

WTF went wrong?  :x

it's an uphill battle getting discrimination/survival machines to ignore a visually obvious discriminant.  it is my opinion that bigotry is not something that can 'be overcome', but requires continuous active effort to mitigate, and always will.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 08, 2012, 02:40:24 am
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.

WTF went wrong?  :x

it's an uphill battle getting discrimination/survival machines to ignore a visually obvious discriminant.  it is my opinion that bigotry is not something that can 'be overcome', but requires continuous active effort to mitigate, and always will.

It's taught though, for the most part, isn't it?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 08, 2012, 02:47:26 am
Yeah, well, there's been studies that show that, for the first time in a long time, people under thirty are less tolerant of racial differences than people over thirty.

Well, that's depressing.

WTF went wrong?  :x

it's an uphill battle getting discrimination/survival machines to ignore a visually obvious discriminant.  it is my opinion that bigotry is not something that can 'be overcome', but requires continuous active effort to mitigate, and always will.

It's taught though, for the most part, isn't it?

i've heard people say that studies indicate that it is. however, i haven't really looked into that myself.
based on my experience, and experience of seeing children raised, and now raising some myself, i would say no.  avoidance of applying biases to an obvious visual discriminant is what must be taught.  it seems evident enough to me that i would have above average skepticism when reading claims that this is not so....
of course, i accept that i'm frequently wrong.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 02:58:24 am
All bigotry is taught, although Ippy's right on the money for teenagers/adults. There's no "I'm not a bigot anymore!" pill you can take. It's a constant effort to examine your views/their origin. It's a kind of jail breaking, imo.

IMO, part of the reason it persists (at least for white people) is because it's to our economic advantage to continue to force PoC out of decent positions (THEY TEK OWR JERBS!).
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 03:08:25 am
Also, on topic: http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
Other than the fact that most of Mitten's supporters are white, I'm not sure why it has to be "white people", but anyway, some of the pictures are still funny/absurd.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: ńͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on November 08, 2012, 03:23:47 am
Conservatives react to Obama's re-election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 03:30:28 am
BEST. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Epimetheus on November 08, 2012, 04:36:30 am
"Romney Sings Concession"
catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0q2eGAjyGg
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 08, 2012, 05:35:26 am
that would have take 8 trillion dollars...
am i missing humor, or was that just a miscalculation?

 :pwned:    <--- that's me getting pwned by simple math (in this clip, played by the late Bruce Lee)

 :lulz: :lulz:

So yeah...  :lulz:




Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bu☆ns on November 08, 2012, 06:40:57 am
Now that the fun party is over can we now focus the critical eye back at the prez:

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

I just found this after checking out alty's graphic on FB...
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/390106_382324195185679_649854656_n.jpg

Anyone have any other good similar resources?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 10:04:43 am
I don't, but you could add to that "what about Africa?"

Most African leaders are deeply disappointed in Obama.  Bush, for whatever reason, pumped a load of money into the continent, into development and aid programs, education...leaders had hoped given Obama's heritage, he would also take a great interest in the continent.  Instead, Obama has only shown interest in where military bases are going to go.

Of course, I suspect most American voters don't care about Africa (5% of American voters named foreign policy as their top concern...something like 57% of those thought Obama was better than Romney on that), but it could be used to shame some liberals.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 11:48:04 am
So, an interesting correlation has been noted in the UK.

By and large, Tory party members loathe Romney.  The reasons for this are partly political, and partly petty.  Politically, they see Romney is a shameless opportunist who had no plan for paying off the US public debt - no plan that would work anyway.  He was needlessly antagonist towards China, a major British trading partner and possible future EU arms client.  He seemed uninterested and unknowledgeable about the European financial crisis - except using it as a stick to beat his political enemies with.

In addition to that, he came over here, abused our hospitality in order to cast doubt on our ability to put on the Games and annoyed the Prime Minister.  That's the function of the Tory Right, not smarmy foreigners.  He's their Prime Minister to abuse, Romney needs to get in line and wait for his turn.

Not to say they're keen on the Kenyan Marxist Usurper...but they find him a known quantity, and his excesses to be considerably less than Romney's.

Yet, a quick reading of the Telegraph Blogs section will quickly show that right wing pundits, on the other hand, were hugely enthusiastic about a Romney Presidency.  They couldn't shut up about how Romney would thrash the moochers, belittle the global warming scientists, bring back Morality and Law And Order and other fantastical tales.

Why the difference?

Well, it's a matter of incentives.  The Tory base have little to gain from a Romney presidency, despite his apparent love of the "special relationship".  Said relationship doesn't exactly bring trade benefits to the UK, you know.  In fact, maintaining said relationship can end up making a Prime Minister deeply unpopular with their own voters, such as happened to Tony Blair.  This can tarnish an entire party as being "lapdogs" of a foreign regime - as it did with Blair (though the likes of Denis MacShane running around the place abusing everyone to the left of Attila the Hun as "pro-Saddam" and then publically rimming Bibi did not help matters), which would be very unfortunate for the Conservatives, who are typically more nationalist than internationalist in outlook and voting base.

However, Telegraph writers and similar can, if they play up the posh accent and semi-respectable academic credentials enough, get a gig on the US Wingnut Welfare Scheme - a system that subsidises the lifestyles of those who are willing to become propagandists for the GOP with a variety of interesting writing and speaking jobs, or think tank positions for the more academically inclined.  It is this route that Christopher Hitchens (sort of) and Niall Ferguson have trod, that Melanie Phillips and James Dellingpole are desperately trying to tread, and that the Telegraph blog crowd are hoping to be considered for.

Que bono?  should be an obvious question to ask when considering any question involving people.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 11:58:44 am
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 12:01:42 pm
American politics, thy name is Spite:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20247097

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Barack Obama has returned to Washington focused on broaching an impasse with Republicans over the deficit reduction deal needed to avoid a fiscal crisis.

The newly reelected US president faces a fiscal "cliff" of spending cuts and tax rises unless agreement is reached.

The Republicans retained control of the House of Representatives on Tuesday, but failed to take the Senate.

House Speaker John Boehner hinted at the possibility of a compromise if the president agreed to tax reform.

Mr Boehner, who negotiated with Mr Obama over a so-called "grand bargain" of spending cuts and new revenues in 2011, said he would accept new revenue-raising as part of a tax reform deal.

Even before he flew with his family from their Chicago base to Andrews Air Force Base in Washington on Wednesday evening, Mr Obama had phoned the speaker to emphasise the need to reach a budget compromise when Congress returns next week.

In other words, cut taxes on those earning $250,000 or more, or the borrowing limit stays in place and the economy is fucked.

The GOP have no reason not to go for this.  They lost the election, and are riding high on butthurt and nihilism.  They can't force the issue in the Senate, but they sure as hell can stall things in the House.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 08, 2012, 02:08:16 pm
I love how the GOP is saying that the House remaining in control because of "voter choice" and not because of absolutely insane gerrymandering.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 02:43:25 pm
http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/07/inside-the-secret-world-of-quants-and-data-crunchers-who-helped-obama-win/2/

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A large portion of the cash raised online came through an intricate, metric-driven e-mail campaign in which dozens of fundraising appeals went out each day. Here again, data collection and analysis were paramount. Many of the e-mails sent to supporters were just tests, with different subject lines, senders and messages. Inside the campaign, there were office pools on which combination would raise the most money, and often the pools got it wrong. Michelle Obama’s e-mails performed best in the spring, and at times, campaign boss Messina performed better than Vice President Joe Biden. In many cases, the top performers raised 10 times as much money for the campaign as the underperformers.

Chicago discovered that people who signed up for the campaign’s Quick Donate program, which allowed repeat giving online or via text message without having to re-enter credit-card information, gave about four times as much as other donors. So the program was expanded and incentivized. By the end of October, Quick Donate had become a big part of the campaign’s messaging to supporters, and first-time donors were offered a free bumper sticker to sign up.

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The magic tricks that opened wallets were then repurposed to turn out votes. The analytics team used four streams of polling data to build a detailed picture of voters in key states. In the past month, said one official, the analytics team had polling data from about 29,000 people in Ohio alone — a whopping sample that composed nearly half of 1% of all voters there — allowing for deep dives into exactly where each demographic and regional group was trending at any given moment. This was a huge advantage: when polls started to slip after the first debate, they could check to see which voters were changing sides and which were not.

It was this database that helped steady campaign aides in October’s choppy waters, assuring them that most of the Ohioans in motion were not Obama backers but likely Romney supporters whom Romney had lost because of his September blunders. “We were much calmer than others,” said one of the officials. The polling and voter-contact data were processed and reprocessed nightly to account for every imaginable scenario. “We ran the election 66,000 times every night,” said a senior official, describing the computer simulations the campaign ran to figure out Obama’s odds of winning each swing state. “And every morning we got the spit-out — here are your chances of winning these states. And that is how we allocated resources.”

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Data helped drive the campaign’s ad buying too. Rather than rely on outside media consultants to decide where ads should run, Messina based his purchases on the massive internal data sets. “We were able to put our target voters through some really complicated modeling, to say, O.K., if Miami-Dade women under 35 are the targets, [here is] how to reach them,” said one official. As a result, the campaign bought ads to air during unconventional programming, like Sons of Anarchy, The Walking Dead and Don’t Trust the B—- in Apt. 23, skirting the traditional route of buying ads next to local news programming. How much more efficient was the Obama campaign of 2012 than 2008 at ad buying? Chicago has a number for that: “On TV we were able to buy 14% more efficiently … to make sure we were talking to our persuadable voters,” the same official said.

The numbers also led the campaign to escort their man down roads not usually taken in the late stages of a presidential campaign. In August, Obama decided to answer questions on the social news website Reddit, which many of the President’s senior aides did not know about. “Why did we put Barack Obama on Reddit?” an official asked rhetorically. “Because a whole bunch of our turnout targets were on Reddit.”


Also worth noting - Obama's team built their own data-driven systems, which allowed for them to be repurposed and adjusted for other purposes (like voting metrics), whereas Team Romney relied on off-the-shelf products provided by corporate backers, which usually only did one thing, and badly (but looked real pretty on their Apple Macs, I'm sure).
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 08, 2012, 02:52:37 pm
I'm so glad I'm not getting those emails anymore.

Anyways, why is it that every Republican is accusing Democratic voters of being jobless leeches now? I just had to embarrass two people I know into making actual apologies.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 02:56:04 pm
Because ressenitment.

Basically, losers have to make themselves feel better, so they claim to be morally superior to those who defeated them.  Nietzsche talked about this a lot, in relation to Christian morals, which makes it an even better fit for the modern GOP supporter than their actual behaviour.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 08, 2012, 03:02:05 pm
Cain, in relation to money: One of the takeaways being pushed is that tons of anonymous money was spent on the election, but it didn't really push the results one way or the other (for example, Romney spent massively in the swing states that he lost). 

If this is true, it either implies that the Citizens United decision wasn't as bad as we thought and money doesn't have as much influence as assumed, or that it simply takes an imbalance of spending in order to make a difference, which only serves to escalate the amount of money spent per election.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 03:13:18 pm
A lot of the stuff about Citizens United was hot air, yes.  The US Presidential system was awash in money well before this decision was made, spending normally only shifts about 1% of the vote, maximum, and the two candidates are usually far closer in economic policy than most people want to admit, meaning they get a roughly equal share of spending money.

However, the more pernicious aspects of Citizens United are the ones which are not getting much press, how large employers are pressuring their employees to vote in particular ways, using corporate funds to create propaganda which is then handed out to employees who are required to read it, having them turn up for ersatz political rallies and so on.

That's rather similar to how voting works in Russia.  Except the Russian system has more dead Chechens.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 08, 2012, 03:45:17 pm
Wow, the butthurt...

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 08, 2012, 04:09:08 pm
Wow, the butthurt...

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html

Like many all Libertarians, he believes in Freedom, as long as you agree with him.

Wow, also I seriously hope he really does all that, so that he becomes that crazy guy who's 86'd from Wal-Mart.
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 08, 2012, 04:16:38 pm
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.

I get chronic pains in various parts of my body.

I should mention this to my doctor.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 04:20:18 pm
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.
California also just revamped our three strikes law - if it's not a violent crime, you don't get life. Thank god. That will help a lot on that front.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 08, 2012, 04:38:54 pm
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.
California also just revamped our three strikes law - if it's not a violent crime, you don't get life. Thank god. That will help a lot on that front.

Oh my god, I'm so glad to see people starting to re-examine that whole system. Three strikes laws and mandatory minimum sentences are among the most unjust aspects of the American justice system. When I hear "tough on crime" in a political campaign I automatically translate it to "in the pocket of the for-profit prison lobby" and I hope that others are beginning to as well.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 08, 2012, 04:39:32 pm
http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Enjoy.

 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 04:47:51 pm
Hahaha

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/the-strategy-that-paved-a-winning-path/2012/11/07/0a1201c8-2769-11e2-b2a0-ae18d6159439_print.html

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Within hours, on the advice of his messaging shop and with the blessing of his foreign policy advisers, Romney approved a statement that accused Obama of sympathizing with anti-American interests in the Muslim world. It was sent out shortly after 10 p.m.

By sunrise the next day, it was clear to Romney that they had acted too quickly. The campaign learned that four Americans had been killed in an attack on a U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. Even to some Republicans, Romney’s hasty statement looked insensitive.

“We screwed up, guys,” Romney told aides on a conference call that morning, according to multiple people on the call. “This is not good.”

His advisers told him that, if he took back his statement, the neoconservative wing of the party would “take his head off.”

How you gonna stand up to the Ayatollahs when you can't stand up to the extra chromosome wing of the GOP, Romney?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 04:47:51 pm
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.
California also just revamped our three strikes law - if it's not a violent crime, you don't get life. Thank god. That will help a lot on that front.

Oh my god, I'm so glad to see people starting to re-examine that whole system. Three strikes laws and mandatory minimum sentences are among the most unjust aspects of the American justice system. When I hear "tough on crime" in a political campaign I automatically translate it to "in the pocket of the for-profit prison lobby" and I hope that others are beginning to as well.
Yeah, I was pleased as fuck to see it in the ballot. I don't remember what the margin was, though.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 08, 2012, 04:50:31 pm
http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Enjoy.

 :horrormirth:

I can't anymore. I can only see that word so many times in one sitting.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 08, 2012, 04:52:31 pm
http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Enjoy.

 :horrormirth:
:vom: :horrormirth:


Hahaha

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/the-strategy-that-paved-a-winning-path/2012/11/07/0a1201c8-2769-11e2-b2a0-ae18d6159439_print.html

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Within hours, on the advice of his messaging shop and with the blessing of his foreign policy advisers, Romney approved a statement that accused Obama of sympathizing with anti-American interests in the Muslim world. It was sent out shortly after 10 p.m.

By sunrise the next day, it was clear to Romney that they had acted too quickly. The campaign learned that four Americans had been killed in an attack on a U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. Even to some Republicans, Romney’s hasty statement looked insensitive.

“We screwed up, guys,” Romney told aides on a conference call that morning, according to multiple people on the call. “This is not good.”

His advisers told him that, if he took back his statement, the neoconservative wing of the party would “take his head off.”

How you gonna stand up to the Ayatollahs when you can't stand up to the extra chromosome wing of the GOP, Romney?
:lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 04:54:57 pm
http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Enjoy.

 :horrormirth:

I can't anymore. I can only see that word so many times in one sitting.

I don't know, the rant about him being bad at golf and bowing to the Prince of Saudi Arabia is pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 08, 2012, 04:57:05 pm
http://electionresultbutthurt.tumblr.com/

Enjoy.

 :horrormirth:

I can't anymore. I can only see that word so many times in one sitting.

I don't know, the rant about him being bad at golf and bowing to the Prince of Saudi Arabia is pretty hilarious.

True, but there's just so much sewage to wade through.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 08, 2012, 05:04:35 pm
Ahh...someone always brings up Karma. What I love about that is that the people who make those posts show not even the slightest inkling of Hindu or Buddhist notions on the subject. They then compound the hilarity with:


"If X person does something I don't like/understand, I hope karma fucks them up the ass and gives them cancer."

 :golfclap: Congratulations, you have taken a philosophical question about cause & effect relationships, welded it to a vengeful monotheistic deity that karmic religions lack and then invoked aforementioned phantom to destroy your enemy. Theologically sound and very healthy I'm sure.

 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 08, 2012, 05:11:11 pm
The bad at golf one made me lawl.

I mean, because it's such a white "sport".
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 08, 2012, 05:14:10 pm
I almost forgot, it looks like the massive Prayerfest-for-Romney oddly... didn't work.

Either that, or it did work, and God thinks Mitt's a douche, as well.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 08, 2012, 05:21:15 pm
Mrs Mang had the whole 'You can't vote Obama if you're a Christian' insanity thrown at her recently. Many moons ago, Mrs M (as a teen) went to a Baptist church....but she got better.

Anyways, a new woman working in her office went to that same church some time ago, so there are people they both know in common. The mistake this woman made was assuming that:

a) Mrs Mang was a Christian.
b) That her political views were 'traditional' if we use the word traditional is the sense of 'divinely sanctioned racism & homophobia'.

So, new girl kept bringing up politics and the election and Mrs Mang kept dodging the issue. I told her that, if she didn't shut this woman down, she will believe you are a 'project' to get you back into church. Well, Mrs Mang kept her cool for a good while but the office noob was unable to decode her non-committal responses as a polite way of saying STFU. 

Last week, Mrs Mang exploded epically   :lol: Every time the woman would try to object, Mrs Mang was 'nope, shut up, I'm still talking' swatting Baptist memes out of the air like King Kong and the biplanes. It was a glorious combination of frustration and logic that stunned this woman into silence.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 05:25:21 pm
There seems to be an interesting conceit that Obama gets 95-97% of the black vote because blacks are the real racists, voting for one of their own over the best candidate.

Except, uh, this is the exact same percentage of black voters who vote for Democrats in every Presidential election.  LRN 2 POLISCI, RACIST-N00BS
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 08, 2012, 05:33:49 pm
BEST LOL EVER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw&list=UUXMAhWuXdTCH9iE69YPmGFA
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 08, 2012, 05:34:35 pm
There seems to be an interesting conceit that Obama gets 95-97% of the black vote because blacks are the real racists, voting for one of their own over the best candidate.

Except, uh, this is the exact same percentage of black voters who vote for Democrats in every Presidential election.  LRN 2 POLISCI, RACIST-N00BS

It's all about the butthurt whimpering.  It's more than I ever dreamed I'd be treated to.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 08, 2012, 05:44:54 pm
There seems to be an interesting conceit that Obama gets 95-97% of the black vote because blacks are the real racists, voting for one of their own over the best candidate.

Except, uh, this is the exact same percentage of black voters who vote for Democrats in every Presidential election.  LRN 2 POLISCI, RACIST-N00BS

That's because the blacks are getting free phones.

Or something.

I dunno.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 08, 2012, 05:47:42 pm
BEST LOL EVER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw&list=UUXMAhWuXdTCH9iE69YPmGFA

24 minutes of no video. Just listening to some white trash woman go off.  :lulz: If I wanted that, I'd just call my aunt.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 05:48:44 pm
There seems to be an interesting conceit that Obama gets 95-97% of the black vote because blacks are the real racists, voting for one of their own over the best candidate.

Except, uh, this is the exact same percentage of black voters who vote for Democrats in every Presidential election.  LRN 2 POLISCI, RACIST-N00BS

That's because the blacks are getting free phones.

Or something.

I dunno.

(http://i.imgur.com/jnG4n.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 08, 2012, 05:54:27 pm
I gotta say, the best butthurt of the entire election is over at freerepublic.com.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 06:07:32 pm
It always is.

I'll see if I can sign up as L30n Tr0tsky and mock them again.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 08, 2012, 06:17:07 pm
OOOOOH. YES.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bruno on November 08, 2012, 07:42:23 pm
Wow, the butthurt...

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html


Quote
funny (127) interesting (2) cool (3)

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 08, 2012, 10:01:07 pm
I gotta say, the best butthurt of the entire election is over at freerepublic.com.

First post I saw:

Quote
This is a time for Howard Roarke, not Henry Reardon (yet)
Thu Nov 8 14:00:59 2012 · by HannibalHamlinJr
self / The Fountainhead | self | self
Hey team - I'm going to make a suggestion. That now is not the time to be sloppily bandying about Atlas Shrugged. It's a pretty clear concept, and I don't think it's good to be calling 'not buying newspapers' the same thing as 'shrugging.' It's the left's job to mutiliate words and concepts, not ours. But instead of harping on that, I'm going to take another road. "I don't believe it matters to me- that they're going to destroy it. Maybe it hurts so much that I don't even know I'm hurt. But I don't think so. If you want...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 08, 2012, 10:01:46 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-race-slipped-away-from-romney.html

Ohhh....now wait a minute...

"More than that, Mr. Romney had spent so much money winning the nomination that he was low on cash; aides, seeing the problem taking shape, had once considered accepting federal financing for the campaign rather than rely on private donations."

So the 'successful businessman' representing that party that constantly reminds us of how bad the govt is and how it hurts free enterprise, considered getting funding from the uhh....federal government.

Well, if someone can constantly twist themselves into so many ideological positions, perhaps Mr Romney can find work as a yoga teacher?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 10:07:33 pm
The Freepers are also convinced Obama conned and vote-stuffed his way to electoral victory.

Their evidence?  Obama did not win states with strict voter ID laws.

Of course, that voter ID laws are the bugbear of Republican politicians, which would require a mostly Republican state to pass, meaning most of the state is ideologically predisposed to dislike Obama and not vote for him, is apparently not what happened at all, oh no.  Also no evidence of pro-Obama states in the last election that suddenly turned Republican due to voter ID.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 12:22:20 am
Huh, that's funny.

RI has voter ID laws, and he won our state by like, 70%.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 09, 2012, 01:12:32 am
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.

I get chronic pains in various parts of my body.

I should mention this to my doctor.


If Mass's law is set up anything like Maine's, you should have no problem whatsoever.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:01:34 am
Somewhat more importantly...

Marijuana legalization won in Colorado, with 50,000 more votes than Obama.  Massachusetts legalized medical pot. Washington legalized pot AND gay marriage. Detroit decriminalized pot. A few other places either legalized gay marriage or at least prevented pre-emptive gay marriage bans.

The less people that get put in prison as a result of the drug war (which Obama has ramped up since the Bush years) the better, since said war has an incredibly outsized impact on minorities and the poorest segments of society.

I get chronic pains in various parts of my body.

I should mention this to my doctor.


If Mass's law is set up anything like Maine's, you should have no problem whatsoever.

Law's only a day old sir.

Anyway, meant to be more of a joke than anything else, even though I actually do have chronic pain (I suck it up, attacks usually only last a couple of minutes) and I enjoy a bit of the shmoke. I'll wait for full legalization if I can, since I can buy alcohol, which, judging from the progression of marijuana legislation here should be in 2020. Considering that I only smoke about twice a year, I can risk getting the equivalent of 8 traffic tickets between now and then.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:05:14 am
It did just occur to me though, that I haven't smoked at all in 2012, unless that time that I smoked in winter was in January.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:08:11 am
PopeTom and I just had a revelation.

Karl Rove spend 365 million dollars on his failed Super-PAC.

There are 311 million people in the US.

He could have given EVERY CENSUSED AMERICA A DOLLAR AND A QUARTER.
 :horrormirth:


*EDITED FOR FAILMATH*
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:09:52 am
PopeTom and I just had a revelation.

Karl Rove spend 365 million dollars on his failed Super-PAC.

There are 311 million people in the US.

He could have given EVERY CENSUSED AMERICA A MILLION DOLLARS, AND STILL HAD CHANGE TO SPARE.

 :horrormirth:

That's called wealth redistribution. Wasting money is a better use.

Even though, if we all had a million dollars, we'd be more likely to vote for Romney.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:12:49 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:16:21 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!

But still, if all of the billionaires pulled their money together and bribed all of us with something substantial, you would see a Republican landslide.

Twid,
my excuse is Guinness
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 09, 2012, 03:20:28 am
I gotta say, the best butthurt of the entire election is over at freerepublic.com.

This was the first thing I saw.

Quote
1. TAX STRIKE

If you are self-employed, stop paying quarterlies and DO NOT FILE next April. Boehner rolled over this morning and announced that the "Republicans" are gung-ho to raise taxes. They can only raise taxes on you if you pay taxes. Don't pay. DO NOT FILE.

IF YOU ARE NOT SELF-EMPLOYED and your employer withholds your taxes, all you have to do is increase THE NUMBER OF EXEMPTIONS YOU CLAIM. Exemptions are NOT just wife-and-kids. People who make large charitable donations kick up their exemptions, as do people with big mortgages. In theory, there is no maximum to the number of exemptions you can claim, but 9 is considered to be the "normal" maximum. Go to your human resources / payroll department tomorrow and tell them you want to increase your exemptions and thus decrease your withholding as much as possible. Then, next April, DO NOT FILE.

There is exactly ONE non-violent remedy left to you, and that is a tax strike. If you do not do this, you are guaranteeing, and I mean 1000% guaranteeing, that there will be a massive hot war and genocide in the United States within the next decade. Go find a good teenaged boy. Look into his eyes, and then understand that if we do not starve the Putsch Regime in Washington, that boy will almost certainly die in the war.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:21:39 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!

But still, if all of the billionaires pulled their money together and bribed all of us with something substantial, you would see a Republican landslide.

Twid,
my excuse is Guinness

He could have given each state 7.8 million dollars.
He could have paid every teacher in America's salary for 10 years.
He could have bailed out every foreclosing house.
He could have fixed the levees in NOLA.
He could have put it as a down payment toward the billions of damage Sandy cost...


...he decorated a fucking presidential campaign with it.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2012, 03:23:30 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!

But still, if all of the billionaires pulled their money together and bribed all of us with something substantial, you would see a Republican landslide.

Twid,
my excuse is Guinness

He could have given each state 7.8 million dollars.
He could have paid every teacher in America's salary for 10 years.
He could have bailed out every foreclosing house.
He could have fixed the levees in NOLA.
He could have put it as a down payment toward the billions of damage Sandy cost...


...he decorated a fucking LOSING presidential campaign with it.

Fixed that for you.

No charge.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:27:11 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!

But still, if all of the billionaires pulled their money together and bribed all of us with something substantial, you would see a Republican landslide.

Twid,
my excuse is Guinness

He could have given each state 7.8 million dollars.
He could have paid every teacher in America's salary for 10 years.
He could have bailed out every foreclosing house.
He could have fixed the levees in NOLA.
He could have put it as a down payment toward the billions of damage Sandy cost...


...he decorated a fucking LOSING presidential campaign with it.

Fixed that for you.

No charge.

A waste of money is still a waste of money.

A waste of a lot of fucking money on this level should be punished, at least with harpies and the type of shame Catholicism and Jewish mothers inflict.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:29:22 am
PopeTom just figured he could have supported NASA for 24 years.

 :horrormirth:

But you know, he wanted to "help" the people, but distribution of wealth is bad.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 09, 2012, 03:32:07 am
PopeTom just figured he could have supported NASA for 24 years.

 :horrormirth:

But you know, he wanted to "help" the people, but distribution of wealth is bad.

Balls.  Lots of printers and producers got a chunk of that money.  People were employed.

Moral:  Nothing is so fucking stupid that nothing good comes of it1.







1  With the obvious exceptions of NASCAR, Seguin TX, and carbuncles.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 03:32:52 am
PopeTom just figured he could have supported NASA for 24 years.

 :horrormirth:

But you know, he wanted to "help" the people, but distribution of wealth is bad.

Ok, this made me wicked angry right here, but we all know my thoughts on space exploration, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:49:17 am
PopeTom just figured he could have supported NASA for 24 years.

 :horrormirth:

But you know, he wanted to "help" the people, but distribution of wealth is bad.

Balls.  Lots of printers and producers got a chunk of that money.  People were employed.

Moral:  Nothing is so fucking stupid that nothing good comes of it1.







1  With the obvious exceptions of NASCAR, Seguin TX, and carbuncles.

:spittake:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 04:50:46 am
I'mma just leave this here:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 09, 2012, 04:57:43 am
I'mma just leave this here:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/

Next time I see a dentist and they ask about the grinding....
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 09, 2012, 05:00:40 am
Actually, my math was way off because I'm wicked tired, and it would actually be a buck twenty-five.

But still! THAT'S A CUPPA COFFEE PER AMERICAN!

 :argh!: Damn you arithmetic! I made the same error because I went to bed at 2:30am Wed morning and then tried to post here after a long ass, soul draining client.

Still, when you figure that Rove spent 365 million, Linda 'Why does no one love me?' McMahon spent 76. The casino guy, Adelson gave 70 million. That's just three obvious ones off the top of my head aside from all the Super PAC money. Can you imagine having so much money that when you fork out 70 million for NOTHING, you actually don't miss it?

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 05:01:15 am
BUT MOST OF HIS EMPLOYEES ARE HISPANIC AND THERE IS A TSUNAMI COMING AND HE HAS TO FEED HIS FAMILY

Oh, well...no worrying about the 22 families affected by the lay offs, jerkwad.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 09, 2012, 05:04:44 am
BUT MOST OF HIS EMPLOYEES ARE HISPANIC AND THERE IS A TSUNAMI COMING AND HE HAS TO FEED HIS FAMILY

Oh, well...no worrying about the 22 families affected by the lay offs, jerkwad.

You have to fire 22 people to feed your family? HOW MUCH FUCKING FOOD DO YOU EAT!!????

So, he hires mostly Hispanic workers and won't explain what kind of business he has. Whut?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 05:11:04 am
BUT MOST OF HIS EMPLOYEES ARE HISPANIC AND THERE IS A TSUNAMI COMING AND HE HAS TO FEED HIS FAMILY

Oh, well...no worrying about the 22 families affected by the lay offs, jerkwad.

You have to fire 22 people to feed your family? HOW MUCH FUCKING FOOD DO YOU EAT!!????

So, he hires mostly Hispanic workers and won't explain what kind of business he has. Whut?

lolvegas.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 09, 2012, 06:14:06 am
PopeTom and I just had a revelation.

Karl Rove spend 365 million dollars on his failed Super-PAC.

There are 311 million people in the US.

He could have given EVERY CENSUSED AMERICA A DOLLAR AND A QUARTER.
 :horrormirth:


*EDITED FOR FAILMATH*

 :lulz: I did the same failmath while drunk the other night, no worries.

But when you consider the amount spent on the election and that every million dollars could generate $60,000 in annual dividends if conservatively invested (staying clear of high-yield, high-risk investments) it gets a little upsetting to realize that the same money could have provided 360,000 people with health insurance forever, or sent 180,000 people to college every year. Forever.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 09, 2012, 06:23:02 am
I'mma just leave this here:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/

Dude is lying his ass off. IF he actually laid anyone off, he was going to do it anyway because his business is tanking and blaming Obama is just an excuse.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 09, 2012, 03:06:58 pm
I had that thought too. It's apparently a recorded phone call. He won't give a name or business..sounds like just butthurt propaganda to me.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 09, 2012, 04:13:28 pm
The bottom line of it all is this - when you consider how much money was spent on the campaigns, added to the amount of tax revenues not being collected from major companies and then coupled with the enormous waste perpetrated by the same companies* you realize that America can quite easily afford decent healthcare, education & infrastructure for everyone.


*Eg: Halliburton during the Iraq war racked up all sorts of interesting invoices. $45 for a 6 pack of coke. $100 per bag of laundry. $7000 pm for a lease on an ordinary car. The empty convoys they ran. The trucks they had the army destroy when they broke down. Change an oil filter? No, blow that fucker up and request a new one for $80k. Not to mention that they got a $1billion tax REBATEthis year. 

Or there's tech companies like Apple & Google who fucking LOVE LOVE LOVE the loopholes. Apple kindly paid less than 2% tax on all their foreign sales.

But no. America is broke. We just can't figure out how to make Social Security work anymore.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 09, 2012, 04:37:10 pm
PopeTom just figured he could have supported NASA for 24 years.

 :horrormirth:

But you know, he wanted to "help" the people, but distribution of wealth is bad.

Balls.  Lots of printers and producers got a chunk of that money.  People were employed.

Moral:  Nothing is so fucking stupid that nothing good comes of it1.







1  With the obvious exceptions of NASCAR, Seguin TX, and carbuncles.

:spittake:

AMEN.

I'm still trying to figure out what actually took place here. (http://seguingazette.com/article_89355c18-2a69-11e2-bf2a-0019bb2963f4.html) Boggles the mind.  :horrormirth:

I'mma just leave this here:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/

Dude is lying his ass off. IF he actually laid anyone off, he was going to do it anyway because his business is tanking and blaming Obama is just an excuse.

He just 100% guaranteed he's going to be paying out unemployment, didn't he?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 09, 2012, 05:48:10 pm
The bottom line of it all is this - when you consider how much money was spent on the campaigns, added to the amount of tax revenues not being collected from major companies and then coupled with the enormous waste perpetrated by the same companies* you realize that America can quite easily afford decent healthcare, education & infrastructure for everyone.


*Eg: Halliburton during the Iraq war racked up all sorts of interesting invoices. $45 for a 6 pack of coke. $100 per bag of laundry. $7000 pm for a lease on an ordinary car. The empty convoys they ran. The trucks they had the army destroy when they broke down. Change an oil filter? No, blow that fucker up and put request a new one for $80k. Not to mention that they got a $1billion tax REBATEthis year. 

Or there's tech companies like Apple & Google who fucking LOVE LOVE LOVE the loopholes. Apple kindly paid less than 2% tax on all their foreign sales.

But no. America is broke. We just can't figure out how to make Social Security work anymore.
Yep. It's pretty disgusting.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 09, 2012, 07:53:41 pm
Ace of Spades has more on the Republican web effort

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php

Quote
From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of "rah-rahs" and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like "Has this been stress tested?", "Is there redundancy in place?" and "What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?", among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 09, 2012, 07:56:36 pm
"What's a DOS?  That sounds suspiciously Mexican..."
      \
 :mullet:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 09, 2012, 08:26:35 pm
Just read an interesting Krugman piece that mentioned a poll showing that a majority of young people preferred "socialism" to "enterprise", and suggested that this is an unintended consequence of reframing the social saftey net as "socialism". 

A kid looks around at social security, a progressive tax code, and a repiblican-proposed healthcare system and thinks, "if this is Socialism, I guess it's not so bad."
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on November 09, 2012, 09:04:43 pm
Just read an interesting Krugman piece that mentioned a poll showing that a majority of young people preferred "socialism" to "enterprise", and suggested that this is an unintended consequence of reframing the social saftey net as "socialism". 

A kid looks around at social security, a progressive tax code, and a repiblican-proposed healthcare system and thinks, "if this is Socialism, I guess it's not so bad."
In Norway, that's a crazy free market capitalist wet dream.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 09, 2012, 10:10:18 pm
Just read an interesting Krugman piece that mentioned a poll showing that a majority of young people preferred "socialism" to "enterprise", and suggested that this is an unintended consequence of reframing the social saftey net as "socialism". 

A kid looks around at social security, a progressive tax code, and a repiblican-proposed healthcare system and thinks, "if this is Socialism, I guess it's not so bad."

That is a great point!  :lulz: Also, unintended consequences.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 10, 2012, 04:16:02 am
Shit just keeps getting better!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false


You know, I learned in like, grade school civics that a threat on the life of the POTUS is an act of treason. I guess they forgot to include that little tidbit on the standardized tests after NCLB passed.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2012, 04:34:21 am
Shit just keeps getting better!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false


You know, I learned in like, grade school civics that a threat on the life of the POTUS is an act of treason. I guess they forgot to include that little tidbit on the standardized tests after NCLB passed.

Expressing a hope that the President gets assassinated is not a threat, though.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 10, 2012, 05:32:10 am
How about saying someone needs to?

http://www.freep.com/article/20120908/NEWS15/120908012/Secret-Service-investigates-Ohio-teen-s-tweet-about-Obama
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 12:08:12 pm
If the Secret Service have got nothing better to do than investigate patent bullshit on Twitter, they obviously need another job.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 10, 2012, 12:18:53 pm
On the other hand, it's pretty hilarious to think about random ignorant cletii getting visits from the Secret Service over some patent bullshit on twitter.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2012, 04:24:19 pm


Ace of Spades has more on the Republican web effort

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php

Quote
From the very start there were warning signs. After signing up, you were invited to take part in nightly conference calls. The calls were more of the slick marketing speech type than helpful training sessions. There was a lot of "rah-rahs" and lofty talk about how this would change the ballgame.

Working primarily as a web developer, I had some serious questions. Things like "Has this been stress tested?", "Is there redundancy in place?" and "What steps have been taken to combat a coordinated DDOS attack or the like?", among others. These types of questions were brushed aside (truth be told, they never took one of my questions). They assured us that the system had been relentlessly tested and would be a tremendous success.

That article was extremely interesting in light of the unusually low turnout among older voters. We had high youth turnout and I wondered what on earth happened to keep those normally avidly voting oldsters at home. Sounds like this might have been a contributor, which is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 08:17:13 pm
The butthurt continues:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md8whs3Mml1rkc4gco1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2012, 08:32:08 pm
The butthurt continues:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md8whs3Mml1rkc4gco1_400.jpg)

Guess who has a Facebook page and a forum?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/114941581953393/
hxxp://theshootingbench.yuku.com/directory#.UJ65D4U_1Gc
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 08:53:48 pm
"If you're turning down customers on the basis of people's voting preferences, than you are too stupid to own a business.  Capitalism is the American Way".

Someone stick that on a poster and I'll slap it all over his page.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 08:55:52 pm
Also, Mark Ames makes a persuasive case that Gary Johnson was a Republican gambit to split the Obama vote:

http://nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/gary-johnson-swindle

Quote
One statistic: The road-widening cost the state $345 million, which Gov. Johnson covered by tapping a federal bond program giving the state 20 years to pay back the interest. So the "principled" budget-conscious libertarian governor and libertarian businessman went crawling to the federal government to rack up a giant credit card bill, then dumped the $345 million construction cost on "Robert the Bruce, King of the Scots" Once you realize Johnson is a conventional hard-right Republican, it’s not surprising that the people running his campaign are some of the GOP’s nastiest dirty tricksters.

Exhibit A: Roger Stone, a self-described "GOP hitman" with a giant tattoo of Richard Nixon’s face etched across his back. Roger Stone —the skeeziest, meanest, most flamboyant and most Russian-nihilistic of any Republican dirty trickster working the field going back a few decades, the Satanic Zelig of Republican black ops, who’s had a hand in just about every major GOP election crime you’ve heard of, and lots more you haven’t heard of. Everyone seems to have forgotten already, but last spring, Roger Stone made a big public stink about how he’s fed up with the Republican Party and the two-party stranglehold, and joined Gary Johnson’s Libertarian Party campaign. Pro bono. Because democratic idealism and principles are what Roger Stone is all about.

Let’s see if this makes any sense in the context of Roger Stone’s record. Starting with the 1972 Nixon re-election campaign, when a hippie-bashing college student named Roger Stone joined Nixon’s dirty tricks team, and impressed them with stunts like planting a fake check from the Socialist Party in a rival’s campaign fund kitty, then leaking that story to the press... Or planting a spy in Hubert Humphrey’s campaign and seeing to it that his spy becomes Hubert Humphrey’s favorite driver on the campaign trail...

Roger Stone had a hand in the "Willie Horton" ad; he masterminded the Florida "yuppie riot" on James Baker’s behalf, halting the recount long enough to let William Rehnquist decide the elections; and although he won’t admit it on record yet, Roger Stone is most likely responsible for destroying Dan Rather’s career by planting the fake National Guard documents on his producer.

That’s a small sampler, but it’s enough to make anyone with a functioning brain realize that when Roger Stone’s says he’s suddenly decided he’s had a political awakening and he’s now a hardcore libertarian doing volunteer "pro bono" political consulting for Gary Johnson’s campaign... you better assume he’s not telling you the whole story. The whole story is absurd, but obviously Roger Stone is onto something by offering the media such a hack storyline, knowing that precisely because it’s so Hollywood unreal, the Manhattan media elites will swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2012, 09:07:04 pm
I'm pretty sure it's totally illegal to deny service to people based on their political affiliation.

I'm also pretty sure that's code for is "if you're Black or Hispanic we don't want your kind"
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bruno on November 10, 2012, 09:54:45 pm
I'm pretty sure it's totally illegal to deny service to people based on their political affiliation.

I'm also pretty sure that's code for is "if you're Black or Hispanic we don't want your kind"

Definitely illegal in California, due to the Unruh Civil Rights Act, but I can't find anything federal, or Arizonan stating that it is illegal for businesses to discriminate over political affiliation.

https://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service


ETA: might be a legitimate safety concern if he's not sure he can trust the judgement of some of his patrons if someone were to come in there saying nice things about the president.

Could be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 10, 2012, 10:16:39 pm
On the other hand, it's pretty hilarious to think about random ignorant cletii getting visits from the Secret Service over some patent bullshit on twitter.

And then, "ERMAHGERD TEH GUVMINT!"
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 10, 2012, 11:03:04 pm
The butthurt continues:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md8whs3Mml1rkc4gco1_400.jpg)

Poster should read: If you voted for Barack Obama, you elected a democratic president that relaxed gun laws.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 10, 2012, 11:28:12 pm
And then...Applebee's threatens to fire employees and freezes hiring.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/09/1173181/applebees-ceo-obamacare/?mobile=nc
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 11:31:29 pm
You know, if Applebees had thrown their weight behind, say, a universal payer system during the process in 2010 and that had passed, then there wouldn't be a burden on their profit margin at all, and they would save millions every year.

Yet I am fairly sure that Tankel would think such a system is a socialist abomination.  My only reaction:  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 11:46:31 pm
A depressing dose of reality from Ian Welsh (http://www.ianwelsh.net/reality-about-americas-future/):

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Now that the silly season is over, let’s be really clear where events are headed.

1) Obama is reelected.  He never needs your vote ever again. What he does need, to become as rich as Bill Clinton, is people to buy his speeches.  If you don’t have 500K or so hanging around to pay for an ex-POTUS speech, you are no longer part of his constituency.  Practically speaking, he needs to make sure people in the financial industry have the money and inclination to make him rich once he’s no longer President.

2) Idiot triumphalism aside, the electoral count was deceptive.  The Republicans didn’t lose by that much in key electoral states.  The Democrats are not cruising for 20 years of control of the Presidency.  There will be a Republican president again, that is an existential certainty.  The Republicans didn’t want this election very much, and did not really push for it.  There are good reasons for that.

3) The Republican party are reactionaries, who want to repeal the 20th century.  The Democrats are conservatives.  There is no major left wing party in the US.  Since avowed left-wingers won’t even vote for third parties in states where Democrats will win for sure, like New York, third parties can be written off for the time being, especially on the left.  If there is a third party which will rise, it will be on the right.

4) The Republicans and the Democrats agree on many issues, disagreeing mostly on social issues.  Even on social issues, the differences are in the margins.  Obama deported more Hispanics than Bush, but is ok with letting college educated young Hispanics stay, which was enough to buy the Hispanic vote, since they came here to build a better future for their children.  Obama overruled his drug administration’s scientists to make sure that Plan B did not become an OTC medication, because as a father he would want to know.  (Of course, if an underage female needs Plan B, in a lot of cases it will be because her father or other family member raped her.)  Obama signed an executive order saying that federal money could not be used for abortion.

5) On civil liberties, as opposed to social issues, there is no real space between the two parties.  Obama has increased surveillance, arrogated the right to kill American citizens without a trial, and instituted more cases against whistle blowers than any President in history.

6) Obama wants a Grand Bargain.  This will mean some nominal tax increases on the rich, and a pile of cuts to the middle class and the poor, especially the young.  SS & Medicare will be cut.

7) Bush tried to cut SS, he failed.  Obama will succeed, cutting SS and Medicare is something only a Democrat can do.  Moreover he will make Dems vote for it, and the Republicans will only give him enough votes to pass, most of them will vote against it, thus making Republicans the party of SS and Medicare.  There will also be massive cuts to the federal bureaucracy and even further cuts to programs like food stamps (which continues to exist only because farmers want it.)

8 ) Obama is, thus, moving to austerity. The economy will be ok till he gets what he wants, then it will crater.  Give it two years, after the mid-terms, you’re toast.

9) Americans have decided they want catastrophe.  There is NO significant force in US society pushing against having a disaster.

10) The US is trying to become a petro-state through fracking.  It won’t help most Americans, and it will do massive environmental damage.  It will also accelerate global warming.  Yes, Obama is better on global warming than Republicans, but he’s not enough better to matter, he is, in fact, making it worse.  Your grandchildren will ritually curse your very names.

11) America will have another major war within 10 years.  That’s what empires in decline do.  It could be with Saudi Arabia, it could be with China, it could be with someone else.  It will happen, because a President will be in a bind, and think “I’ve got this big military, why don’t I use it to solve my problems?”

12) Inequality will continue to increase, with dips during recessions.  Wages and wealth of ordinary Americans will continue to drop.  There will be a small housing recovery, due to massive Fed intervention, keeping homes off the market and deliberate destruction of homes, but it will not get back to a bubble.

13) The Fiscal Cliff will most likely be averted this time, but it will happen again after the next financial crash.  If that one is avoided, it will happen again.  At some point, it won’t be averted.  The US will have no choice at that point but to move to full war footing.  If you don’t get a big war before that point, you will then.

14) The fiscal cliffs won’t be avoided forever because the rich aren’t really going to tax themselves at the necessary rates. If they do that, they don’t get ahead.  Every collapse, they have to bailed out by someone else, if they aren’t, they’re destroyed.  They know this.  The key financial assets they held, at the depth of the crash, before the Fed started accepting them, were worth 10 cents on the dollar at best.

15) Europe is not going to fix its problems until the Euro collapses.  There will likely be civil wars, Spain is one obvious place it may happen.  Greece is almost certainly going to be taken over by the Golden Dawn, who aren’t even neo-Nazis, but rather the real thing: straight up Nazis.  The rich would rather deal with Nazis than with the left.  That isn’t going to work out for them, but they don’t realize that.

16) In the 20s the Europeans relied on America to be the engine of growth, that didn’t work out.  In the current day, the world is relying on China to be the engine of economic growth, and that isn’t going to work out either.

17) After the fiscal cliff that isn’t managed, and after the big war, the US will have a full fledged economic collapse, on the order of Russia after the USSR collapsed, but worse because most Americans don’t actually own their houses (they have mortgages), don’t have gardens where they can grow food, and don’t have good public transit.

18) History is mutable.  This is now the glide path.  It is most likely.  The details can change, but the endgame is virtually certain.  Since no one in the US wants to stop collapse and catastrophe, it will happen.

19) After it happens, the current generation in power will be thrown out on their asses by the young, who will have to fix America.  We’ll see if they have what it takes to do it.  Expect them to be very cruel to the old, who they will view as having screwed up everything and put the entire bill on them.  Among other things, expect an end to so-called intellectual property (a misnomer), expect the financial class to be gutted and expect a radical rewrite of bankruptcy laws.

20) This is an optimistic scenario.  The less optimistic (but possibly realistic) scenario has a “charismatic leader” of some variety take over and institute a dictatorship of some variety.  Many Americans will be begging for such a figure to arise, feeling that only a strong man can make the country work again.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Salty on November 11, 2012, 12:34:37 am
It's only times like these that I regret having a child.

Do you suppose he's right about youth hating older people? Are people smart enough to place blame like that? Or will they do what thu have to do without thinking about who got them there?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 11, 2012, 12:35:33 am
Good News everyone, Obama officially has won Florida.  No hanging chads, no recounts, and even better, Florida didn't fucking matter this year!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 12:36:06 am
It's only times like these that I regret having a child.

Do you suppose he's right about youth hating older people? Are people smart enough to place blame like that? Or will they do what thu have to do without thinking about who got them there?

Take it all with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Salty on November 11, 2012, 12:40:01 am
It's only times like these that I regret having a child.

Do you suppose he's right about youth hating older people? Are people smart enough to place blame like that? Or will they do what thu have to do without thinking about who got them there?

Take it all with a grain of salt.

Naturally. I feel that, especially in times of hardship and struggle, people find a way. We are tenacious in that way. Like a stubborn fungal infection.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 12:47:05 am
It's only times like these that I regret having a child.

Do you suppose he's right about youth hating older people? Are people smart enough to place blame like that? Or will they do what thu have to do without thinking about who got them there?

Take it all with a grain of salt.

Naturally. I feel that, especially in times of hardship and struggle, people find a way. We are tenacious in that way. Like a stubborn fungal infection.

Of the scrote. Exactly. Not even Gold Bond will get rid of us.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 11, 2012, 12:49:19 am
Eh, younger generations have, and always will, blame the older generations for the ills of society.  It's just the nature of the beast.


Besides, it is perfectly logical if you think about it.  What's progress?  Making things better, which means things had to be worse before the improvements. 


That's not to discount or discredit the gigantic piles of shit we have to wade through today, but I think no matter what, there will always be a natural tension between the young and the old.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Salty on November 11, 2012, 01:04:59 am
I got this image in my head when I read that of mohawked street-punks in the very Robo-Cop-like future that bear down on elderly couples carrying grocery bags with lead pipes screaming: WHY DIDN'T YOU REALIZE THAT AUSTERITY WAS AS POINTLESS AS IT WAS STUPID.

I felt fear because I might be one of those old people, and elation because they really, really deserve it.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 11, 2012, 01:28:02 am
The butthurt continues:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md8whs3Mml1rkc4gco1_400.jpg

Poster should read: If you voted for Barack Obama, you elected a democratic president that relaxed gun laws.

He has certainly helped the gun industry by being useful as some menacing spectre, prompting sales.
and he certainly has made no moves thus far to tighten gun laws.
... but how has he relaxed them?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 11, 2012, 01:42:52 am
Mitt Romney's facebook page seems to be losing about a thousand likes an hour. :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Epimetheus on November 11, 2012, 02:08:26 am
Mitt Romney's facebook page seems to be losing about a thousand likes an hour. :lulz:

:lol: A friend mentioned that. It's like -2 per second.
Obama's is about +1 per sec
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Salty on November 11, 2012, 02:14:31 am
Mitt Romney's facebook page seems to be losing about a thousand likes an hour. :lulz:

:lol: A friend mentioned that. It's like -2 per second.
Obama's is about +1 per sec

Man, America really loves a winner.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 11, 2012, 03:56:52 am
SHe's "not racist". But she's fired. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 11, 2012, 04:21:08 am
The butthurt continues:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md8whs3Mml1rkc4gco1_400.jpg

Poster should read: If you voted for Barack Obama, you elected a democratic president that relaxed gun laws.

He has certainly helped the gun industry by being useful as some menacing spectre, prompting sales.
and he certainly has made no moves thus far to tighten gun laws.
... but how has he relaxed them?

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-vs-romney-gun-control-2012-9

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the only gun-control laws he has signed as president have been to expand gun rights – allowing guns on national park lands and Amtrak trains.

Romney, on the other hand, signed a permanent assault weapons ban for the state of MA while he was governor.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2012, 09:14:53 am
It's only times like these that I regret having a child.

Do you suppose he's right about youth hating older people? Are people smart enough to place blame like that? Or will they do what thu have to do without thinking about who got them there?

Look at the reaction to the 2008 banking crisis.

I believe that should answer your question.

And there is an already pre-existing sentiment of "boomers dun fucked everything up".  We've seen it occasionally on this forum, where the quality of thinking is generally higher than that of the median voter.

That doesn't mean it will necessarily happen.  The future isn't written in stone after all*.  It just doesn't look good. 


*My favoured candidate for a "man on a horse", General Petraeus, has been brought low, for example.  Having an affair with his biographer, who then attempted to hack his emails?  Prospects for riding in and saving the USA by carrying out "political population-centric COIN" are certainly much lower now.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Suu on November 11, 2012, 03:48:40 pm
I just broke brains by showing the Lifeline Assistance Program was created by Reagan, not Obama.

Seriously, it stunned this Libertarian cunt into silence.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2012, 04:28:59 pm
The myth of Reagan is all powerful.  Reagan was the closest friend to Israel (despite cutting off strategic aid and voting to condemn them in the UN on several occasions).  Reagan cut taxes (well, except for all those stealth taxes he actually raised).  Reagan deplored Nixon's deal with China (until he changed his mind).  Reagan tirelessly supported freedom movements around the world (except when he refused to embargo Poland in response to the brutal crackdown on Solidarity).  Reagan never cut and run (except from Lebanon).  Reagan never compromised with rogue regimes (except all that backroom negotiation with Iran) and stood steadfast against the demands of the Soviet Union (except when he negotiated arms treaties with Gorbachev).  Reagan stood for strong national security (apart from detesting nuclear weapons) and for cracking down on terrorists (who he considered criminals and should be fought by legal means).

You can see why Reagan is such an inspiration to modern conservatives.  They know nothing about him.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 04:56:20 pm
SHe's "not racist". But she's fired. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html

I think she's an idiot, but I also have a problem with the mob mentality that accompanied this story. She and thousands (at a guess) of other ignorant rednecks have said stupid, racist, threatening shit about the President on networking media sites... haven't we been laughing about this for the last four years? But people jumped on this particular stupid redneck, formed a screaming monkey mob, and engaged in what I could only describe as harrassing behavior until she was fired.

What concerns me about our (by which I mean the Left's) acceptance of this completely shitty sequence of events is that we are making a statement that we find it morally and ethically acceptable to take someone's words off an ostensibly hidden portion of the Internet, take them to their boss, and apply pressure to get them fired, even after the words were removed and no longer visible to even the limited audience they were intended for.

We all know (or should know) that Facebook isn't really private, regardless of privacy settings that prevent bosses or strangers from seeing the retarded and often overly personal crap we post there. However, I feel that this crosses a big line, and I am actually outright horrified at the general Liberal endorsement of actions that can and you better believe will be used against all of us in the future... especially when you consider that we have things like states that allow employers to fire women for using birth control.

Ook ook, motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Internet Jesus on November 11, 2012, 05:27:09 pm
SHe's "not racist". But she's fired. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html

I think she's an idiot, but I also have a problem with the mob mentality that accompanied this story. She and thousands (at a guess) of other ignorant rednecks have said stupid, racist, threatening shit about the President on networking media sites... haven't we been laughing about this for the last four years? But people jumped on this particular stupid redneck, formed a screaming monkey mob, and engaged in what I could only describe as harrassing behavior until she was fired.

What concerns me about our (by which I mean the Left's) acceptance of this completely shitty sequence of events is that we are making a statement that we find it morally and ethically acceptable to take someone's words off an ostensibly hidden portion of the Internet, take them to their boss, and apply pressure to get them fired, even after the words were removed and no longer visible to even the limited audience they were intended for.

We all know (or should know) that Facebook isn't really private, regardless of privacy settings that prevent bosses or strangers from seeing the retarded and often overly personal crap we post there. However, I feel that this crosses a big line, and I am actually outright horrified at the general Liberal endorsement of actions that can and you better believe will be used against all of us in the future... especially when you consider that we have things like states that allow employers to fire women for using birth control.

Ook ook, motherfuckers.

You're ultimately right, Nigel, but how are the stupid among us going to get that 1. there's nothing private on the interwebs and 2. While political expression is free, there are some things you just don't broadcast to the world, if a few examples aren't made?

Not that for the current breed of conservative any lesson can ever be learned but hey, hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 06:54:14 pm
SHe's "not racist". But she's fired. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/denise-helms-california-woman-hopes-obama-is-assassinated_n_2104184.html

I think she's an idiot, but I also have a problem with the mob mentality that accompanied this story. She and thousands (at a guess) of other ignorant rednecks have said stupid, racist, threatening shit about the President on networking media sites... haven't we been laughing about this for the last four years? But people jumped on this particular stupid redneck, formed a screaming monkey mob, and engaged in what I could only describe as harrassing behavior until she was fired.

What concerns me about our (by which I mean the Left's) acceptance of this completely shitty sequence of events is that we are making a statement that we find it morally and ethically acceptable to take someone's words off an ostensibly hidden portion of the Internet, take them to their boss, and apply pressure to get them fired, even after the words were removed and no longer visible to even the limited audience they were intended for.

We all know (or should know) that Facebook isn't really private, regardless of privacy settings that prevent bosses or strangers from seeing the retarded and often overly personal crap we post there. However, I feel that this crosses a big line, and I am actually outright horrified at the general Liberal endorsement of actions that can and you better believe will be used against all of us in the future... especially when you consider that we have things like states that allow employers to fire women for using birth control.

Ook ook, motherfuckers.

You're ultimately right, Nigel, but how are the stupid among us going to get that 1. there's nothing private on the interwebs and 2. While political expression is free, there are some things you just don't broadcast to the world, if a few examples aren't made?

Not that for the current breed of conservative any lesson can ever be learned but hey, hope springs eternal.

I have a feeling a few examples are going to be made, very swiftly over the next few weeks.

The thing is, the stupid among us are us, because by screeching in support of this we are tightening the noose a little tighter around out own necks. She said Nigger! She said she hoped the President is assassinated! Burn the witch! And the next time a Republican President is elected, it'll be liberals losing their jobs to the same kinds of mobs, but with different party colors, and they won't even have to say nigger.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 11, 2012, 07:02:11 pm
You make a very good point, Nigel. 

Huh.I hadn't thought of it that way.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2012, 07:39:47 pm
Short-sighted and stupid grants of power seem to be a hallmark of American politics for the last few decades.

I won't be surprised if in 2016, we see people arguing "you have to vote for Hillary Clinton...else President Ryan will have you assassinated by a drone!"  And then people will line up and dutifully pull a lever for Clinton, instead of thinking whether a system that relies on the good character on the person in office is actually a desirable state of affairs or not.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 08:44:01 pm
A frustrating element of even trying to discuss this with most people is that, relevant to something LMNO said the other day, most people can't stay on the topic of the moral and ethical ramifications of both the mob mentality and the media intervention, and keep slipping over to focus on the rightness of her actions or the actions of her employer.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 11, 2012, 09:18:18 pm
Yeah, the mobbish response to her post bothered me a little. She deserves to be roundly mocked for being a disgusting human being, but firing her (and the way Jezebel went and informed the schools of a bunch of kids who said things like this, which has resulted in discipline for them) is worrisome.

The myth of Reagan is all powerful.  Reagan was the closest friend to Israel (despite cutting off strategic aid and voting to condemn them in the UN on several occasions).  Reagan cut taxes (well, except for all those stealth taxes he actually raised).  Reagan deplored Nixon's deal with China (until he changed his mind).  Reagan tirelessly supported freedom movements around the world (except when he refused to embargo Poland in response to the brutal crackdown on Solidarity).  Reagan never cut and run (except from Lebanon).  Reagan never compromised with rogue regimes (except all that backroom negotiation with Iran) and stood steadfast against the demands of the Soviet Union (except when he negotiated arms treaties with Gorbachev).  Reagan stood for strong national security (apart from detesting nuclear weapons) and for cracking down on terrorists (who he considered criminals and should be fought by legal means).

You can see why Reagan is such an inspiration to modern conservatives.  They know nothing about him.
:lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 11, 2012, 09:34:00 pm
Yeah, now that it's been pointed out, this is totally messed up. 


But there's still a big part of my brainmeat that's like "TEACH THOSE RACIST MORONS A LESSON! YEAH!"  It seems like racism is coming back (or at least is less reviled), and I wouldn't begin to know where to start teaching people not to be ignorant jackasses without some form of tangible punishment, at least not in the US, that would work.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 11, 2012, 09:55:30 pm
Yeah, now that it's been pointed out, this is totally messed up. 


But there's still a big part of my brainmeat that's like "TEACH THOSE RACIST MORONS A LESSON! YEAH!"  It seems like racism is coming back (or at least is less reviled), and I wouldn't begin to know where to start teaching people not to be ignorant jackasses without some form of tangible punishment, at least not in the US, that would work.

Another problem with that response is that punishing people for being racist just makes them more racist.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Freeky on November 11, 2012, 09:56:39 pm
Yeah, now that it's been pointed out, this is totally messed up. 


But there's still a big part of my brainmeat that's like "TEACH THOSE RACIST MORONS A LESSON! YEAH!"  It seems like racism is coming back (or at least is less reviled), and I wouldn't begin to know where to start teaching people not to be ignorant jackasses without some form of tangible punishment, at least not in the US, that would work.

Another problem with that response is that punishing people for being racist just makes them more racist.

There is that, too. 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: President Television on November 11, 2012, 10:44:10 pm
I definitely saw an ugly side to Jezebel's approach to the racist twitters. On the one hand, yeah, racists are scumbags, but on the other, they really aren't worth becoming the self-appointed civilian thought police over. And ultimately, that's what it smacked of to me. Punishing the kids for a deviation from acceptable thought, even if said deviation was thoroughly reprehensible. It's like arresting people for making rape jokes.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 11, 2012, 11:48:26 pm
I definitely saw an ugly side to Jezebel's approach to the racist twitters. On the one hand, yeah, racists are scumbags, but on the other, they really aren't worth becoming the self-appointed civilian thought police over. And ultimately, that's what it smacked of to me. Punishing the kids for a deviation from acceptable thought, even if said deviation was thoroughly reprehensible. It's like arresting people for making rape jokes.

It's weird, if a bunch of people just went and fucked with those kid's facebooks a bit, even if it made their life a living hell for a few days, I wouldn't have a problem with it because internet, get tuff, ect. Its only when authority(the school, the woman's job) becomes involved that it feels like punishing a thought crime.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2012, 01:47:50 am
I definitely saw an ugly side to Jezebel's approach to the racist twitters. On the one hand, yeah, racists are scumbags, but on the other, they really aren't worth becoming the self-appointed civilian thought police over. And ultimately, that's what it smacked of to me. Punishing the kids for a deviation from acceptable thought, even if said deviation was thoroughly reprehensible. It's like arresting people for making rape jokes.

It's weird, if a bunch of people just went and fucked with those kid's facebooks a bit, even if it made their life a living hell for a few days, I wouldn't have a problem with it because internet, get tuff, ect. Its only when authority(the school, the woman's job) becomes involved that it feels like punishing a thought crime.

Yeah, exactly. Kind of the old saw about the punishment suiting the crime, and all that. Oh, someone was a douche on the internet! Well, how about let's mock them on the internet? Fits the crime!

Sure, if someone makes what sounds like a threat to the President, they should get a knock on the door from the Secret Service. That's their job. But mobbing their boss with boycott threats is out of fucking line.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2012, 01:52:25 am
You know, the other part of that is, it used to be that we'd have some Facebook friend say something fucking idiotic and we'd screencap it, blot out their name, and be all "get a load of this moron!", not "Somebody is wrong on the Internet, everybody contact her employer!"
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2012, 06:50:10 am
The UK has gone down this route, and it's not pretty.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2012, 01:19:13 pm
Wonkette gives us an update (http://feeds.wonkette.com/click.phdo?i=db5317b81864105f18217d2ebdf2efc4) on CEOs throwing tantrums over Obama being re-elected:

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Papa John’s Pizza


John Schnatter, founder of Papa John’s pizza, is LIVID and he is NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. You want his employees to have health care coverage? Well FINE, he’ll GIVE them health care coverage but it will cost you do-gooder liberals ten cents more per pizza, does that make you HAPPY? Actually, it might make you happy. We at Wonkette have concluded that we will pay ten cents more per pizza if it will ensure that the person making it is able to see a doctor when he gets sick. And we wonder why this didn’t happen sooner, if all it took was ten cents more per pizza to get employee health care coverage. Is that really all it costs? Ten cents per pizza? If so, then maybe the CEO of Papa John’s should have done this a long time ago. But again, this attitude is why we are not the CEO of a multi-billion dollar pizza company.

Olive Garden / Red Lobster

The CEO of this company is a real ball buster, and he is NOT going to make YOU pay ten cents more for a plate of noodles, no way Jose. That is a solution for pussies. This CEO is just going to cut back on employees’ hours so that they work 29 hours per week instead of 30, exempting them from health care coverage mandate. So the next time you go to Olive Garden or the Red Lobster, rest assured that your server is not going to have health care coverage. There, does that make you feel better?

Hurricane Grill and Wings, and also some Denny’s and Dairy Queen Franchises

John Metz is nobody’s fool, so John Metz, CEO and owner of Hurricane Grill and Wings as well as some Denny’s and Dairy Queen franchises, is going to pass the cost of Obamacare onto the employees AND the customer. “If I leave the prices the same, but, say on the menu that there is a five-percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it, and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare,” Metz told The Huffington Post. Metz is a WINNER, you guys, and WINNERS do not pay for the health care coverage costs of others. They make you, the customer pay for it (SUCKER) and if you don’t want to, then YOU get to be a winner and make the waitress pay for it.

Applebee’s

Obamacare is going to cost Applebee’s “some millions of dollars” according to CEO Zane Tankel. Will these “some millions of dollars” be an increase in costs per year? Per month? Per restaurant? We don’t know, and it’s not important. What IS important is that Applebee’s will not be able to build more restaurants, or create more low-wage go-nowhere jobs, THANKS OBAMA. The solution to these costs is for the CEO to take a hit on his $9.6 million dollar per year salary lay off employees.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 17, 2012, 04:16:48 pm
Ahh Papa John....you make billions of dollars a year and the Obamacare cost will only come to $8million which you could so easily afford. Oh, instead of giving away 2 million free pizzas as part of a celebrity endorsement, how about giving that money to your employees? No, wait...it's the $250 million class action lawsuit is what you're really worried about paying for.

 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 17, 2012, 04:22:56 pm
I enjoy reading these stories, because now I know where I will never, ever spend money again.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 17, 2012, 05:19:39 pm
right....
how do they think mixing politics in with their business with the public at large, when the public is partisan and evenly split could possibly be a good idea?
fucking idiots

hm.. have there been any reaction news stories about companies hiring irrationally due to confidence that obama was a brilliant choice?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2012, 06:49:38 pm
That's too bad, I used to like Dairy Queen. Oh well.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 17, 2012, 06:58:39 pm
Well crap. I guess it's time to support local eateries (until they turn out to be assholes aswell)

THANKS A LOT OBAMA
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 17, 2012, 07:49:26 pm
Local eateries tend to have better pizza anyway.  Papa John's is crap. 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2012, 07:55:49 pm
right....
how do they think mixing politics in with their business with the public at large, when the public is partisan and evenly split could possibly be a good idea?
fucking idiots

hm.. have there been any reaction news stories about companies hiring irrationally due to confidence that obama was a brilliant choice?

No, but job creation did increase in the months leading up to Obama's re-election, when it was abundantly clear Romney didn't stand a chance in hell of winning.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 17, 2012, 09:04:18 pm
I just broke brains by showing the Lifeline Assistance Program was created by Reagan, not Obama.

Seriously, it stunned this Libertarian cunt into silence.

I use that to get ridof Libertarians on facebook. They send me a nasty PM, unfriend me and go right on posting about Obamaphones.  :lulz: :lulz:

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Let's see - I showed you a video where people aren't getting ONE phone - they're getting SEVERAL. #oops

Then I mentioned people who maybe shouldn't be receiving entitlements and you say it's "racist" - why is that Stella? I didn't mention race, now did I? #oops

It just so happens that the people I know who abuse the system are white and as far as those at WalMart etc, could be white black or brown. But I'm a racist. Got it. Jim Crow and shit, right on.

You on the other hand are either a moron or a liar - I suspect both. Have fun with your like-minded buddies. Adios!

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 17, 2012, 09:07:37 pm
Yeah, now that it's been pointed out, this is totally messed up. 


But there's still a big part of my brainmeat that's like "TEACH THOSE RACIST MORONS A LESSON! YEAH!"  It seems like racism is coming back (or at least is less reviled), and I wouldn't begin to know where to start teaching people not to be ignorant jackasses without some form of tangible punishment, at least not in the US, that would work.

Another problem with that response is that punishing people for being racist just makes them more racist.

This.
It gives them "martyrs".
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 17, 2012, 09:15:22 pm
Local eateries tend to have better pizza anyway.  Papa John's is crap.

2 cups warm water
4-6 cups flour
salt
sugar
yeast...
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Don Coyote on November 17, 2012, 09:18:48 pm
Local eateries tend to have better pizza anyway.  Papa John's is crap.

2 cups warm water
4-6 cups flour
salt
sugar
yeast...

Home made pizza is best pizza ever.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2012, 09:33:47 pm
It IS. Although my local chain is pretty fucking good, too.


I enjoy reading these stories, because now I know where I will never, ever spend money again.
Ditto.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bruno on November 17, 2012, 09:50:58 pm
It's been a while since I bought a Papa John's pizza, but the next time I do I will be sure to pay in dimes.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2012, 09:54:07 pm
And the servers will spit in your pizza.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bruno on November 17, 2012, 10:05:22 pm
Rolls of dimes!

I'm not a total douche.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2012, 10:28:16 pm
It's been a while since I bought a Papa John's pizza, but the next time I do I will be sure to pay in dimes.  :lulz:

 :? This will send a message how?

Maybe if everyone mailed a dime to the CEO it would send a message.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 17, 2012, 10:31:32 pm
As long as the CEO is getting a steady stream of dimes he won't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks.


That's why he can spout stupid shit at will. 
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Bruno on November 17, 2012, 10:38:44 pm
These are both good points, but boycotting them would hurt employees, too.

On the other hand it creates more jobs in the places you do spend money.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: AFK on November 17, 2012, 10:47:07 pm
Well and also spending money at locally owned eateries is more likely to keep money within and building the local economy. 


But honestly, at least with the Papa John's guy, he seems like he's just being a loud blowhard asshat.  The best thing to do is not to give him that National stage bullhorn.  (I'm talking to you American media asshats!)



Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2012, 11:44:19 pm
I'd rather know. We never eat Papa John's anyway, as their food is shit and we have an excellent local chain right next door, but I'd rather know who to boycott.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2012, 11:44:25 pm
Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2012, 12:15:23 am
I just broke brains by showing the Lifeline Assistance Program was created by Reagan, not Obama.

Seriously, it stunned this Libertarian cunt into silence.

I use that to get ridof Libertarians on facebook. They send me a nasty PM, unfriend me and go right on posting about Obamaphones.  :lulz: :lulz:

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Let's see - I showed you a video where people aren't getting ONE phone - they're getting SEVERAL. #oops

Then I mentioned people who maybe shouldn't be receiving entitlements and you say it's "racist" - why is that Stella? I didn't mention race, now did I? #oops

It just so happens that the people I know who abuse the system are white and as far as those at WalMart etc, could be white black or brown. But I'm a racist. Got it. Jim Crow and shit, right on.

You on the other hand are either a moron or a liar - I suspect both. Have fun with your like-minded buddies. Adios!

Best part: that government project was started under Bush.  You know, the once and former God Emperor sent to save Humanity, who failed so badly that he has been wiped entirely from the modern conservative memory.

Consistent conservatives, like Daniel Larison, criticized Bush for the program at the time and criticized Obama for continuing it, and then criticized conservative propagandists who tried to make out that Obama started the whole thing.  But the likes of Daniel Larison are very rare, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 18, 2012, 02:44:21 am
Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
DUDE. I like that idea.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 18, 2012, 03:46:54 am
I just broke brains by showing the Lifeline Assistance Program was created by Reagan, not Obama.

Seriously, it stunned this Libertarian cunt into silence.

I use that to get ridof Libertarians on facebook. They send me a nasty PM, unfriend me and go right on posting about Obamaphones.  :lulz: :lulz:

Quote
Let's see - I showed you a video where people aren't getting ONE phone - they're getting SEVERAL. #oops

Then I mentioned people who maybe shouldn't be receiving entitlements and you say it's "racist" - why is that Stella? I didn't mention race, now did I? #oops

It just so happens that the people I know who abuse the system are white and as far as those at WalMart etc, could be white black or brown. But I'm a racist. Got it. Jim Crow and shit, right on.

You on the other hand are either a moron or a liar - I suspect both. Have fun with your like-minded buddies. Adios!

Best part: that government project was started under Bush.  You know, the once and former God Emperor sent to save Humanity, who failed so badly that he has been wiped entirely from the modern conservative memory.

Consistent conservatives, like Daniel Larison, criticized Bush for the program at the time and criticized Obama for continuing it, and then criticized conservative propagandists who tried to make out that Obama started the whole thing.  But the likes of Daniel Larison are very rare, unfortunately.

When I was arguing with that guy I did some googling and found that some of this Lifeline stuff started under Reaganchrist.

Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
DUDE. I like that idea.

Get me a mailing addy.  :lulz:

I posted a link on facebook the other day saying that there was a black Friday boycott planned for WalMart.

Somebody asked me how that helps WalMart employees. WELL, LET'S SEE:

They're typically doing the work of at least three people (ever notice how WallyWerld always has 20 odd registers and never more than 3 or 4 open?) and they aren't paid commission, so the less sold, the easier it is for them to earn their cheapass paycheck

~AND~

Black Friday is living hell at ANY retail establishment. It sucks at RADIOSHACK.

So even if not enough people boycott to make a dent (which they won't) EVERY MOTHERFUCKER THAT STAYS AWAY MAKES THE DAY THAT MUCH EASIER.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Luna on November 18, 2012, 01:29:58 pm
Shit, I never shop on Black Friday, anyway...  Stores are full of assholes who will kill a motherfucker for a buck off a toaster, and I'm still in an "I just stuffed myself so full of turkey I can't move" happy place.  I've worked retail, having to call security to bust up a fistfight over the last whateverthefuck is a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 18, 2012, 03:59:18 pm
Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
DUDE. I like that idea.

Corporate headquarters:

John Schatter
2002 Papa John's Blvd
Louisville, KY USA 40299
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 18, 2012, 04:03:23 pm
Shit, I never shop on Black Friday, anyway...  Stores are full of assholes who will kill a motherfucker for a buck off a toaster, and I'm still in an "I just stuffed myself so full of turkey I can't move" happy place.  I've worked retail, having to call security to bust up a fistfight over the last whateverthefuck is a pain in the ass.

I hate to even leave my house between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Although, since I celebrate the solstice, there's this hilariously surreal post-Yule gap where I'm all relieved it's over and everyone else is still all stressing about Christmas, it's pretty hilarious. On Christmas I used to hang out with my best friend who is Jewish, but now that she's married a Catholic I need to find some other heathen unbeliever to hang out with.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mangrove on November 18, 2012, 04:28:50 pm
Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
DUDE. I like that idea.

Corporate headquarters:

John Schatter
2002 Papa John's Blvd
Louisville, KY USA 40299

Better Ingredients, Better Pizza, Papa John's! Mediocre Ingredients, Worse Ethics, Papa John's!
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 18, 2012, 06:08:06 pm
I think I found me my Christmas unbeliever. Pickles the Clown, host of Fight Night, also does not celebrate the holiday, and instead likes to spend it drinking at his house watching TV.

:awesome:
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: LMNO on November 19, 2012, 02:21:21 pm
It pleases me that corporate-owned food chains have really crappy food, which means I'd never go there in the first place.  Easiest. Boycott. Ever.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 19, 2012, 03:01:02 pm
I think I found me my Christmas unbeliever. Pickles the Clown, host of Fight Night, also does not celebrate the holiday, and instead likes to spend it drinking at his house watching TV.

:awesome:
I look forward to moving out, hopefully far enough away that I am not forced to celebrate it. The only semi-redeeming thing about the holiday season is pecan puffs
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Juana on November 19, 2012, 03:02:22 pm
Boycotting them won't really hurt employees, though, because people who won't eat there will simply eat elsewhere and the jobs will be redistributed.

My thought is that if everyone who isn't eating there anymore sent the CEO a dime, he would have a physical manifestation of how much business he was losing. It would be a satisfyingly insulting way of flipping him off. :lol:
DUDE. I like that idea.

Corporate headquarters:

John Schatter
2002 Papa John's Blvd
Louisville, KY USA 40299
This afternoon, I will find a dime for every time in the last five years we have gotten pizza from the local chain instead of them.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2012, 04:12:00 am
I am not sure they even have them in Portland, so I've never been there, but I will send them a single, symbolic dime in the morning.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: SexyFish on August 06, 2013, 03:58:44 am
): ): ): ): ):
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on August 16, 2016, 02:41:07 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.

I'd like to think I called current events.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2016, 04:15:58 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.

I'd like to think I called current events.

Horning in on the prophecy biz, eh?
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Junkenstein on August 16, 2016, 06:59:46 pm
The question is, what will the aftermath of trump be like in either event?

He wins and sets a precedent for a future shitshow and people to be crazy.

He loses but did quite well so future candidates try their arm with the same shit and a few refinements. Next candidate ends up being Conrad black or similar.

Seriously, name a candidate that can't fly with this shit. If Don rickles tried it he'd at least do as well as this.

Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: Cain on August 16, 2016, 07:17:36 pm
If you felt the meltdown in 2009 was epic, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Romney's defeat can be spun any way by any faction in the GOP, meaning the answer will invariably come back to "MOAR IDEOLOGICAL PURITY", meaning the Tea Party may end up looking like the moderate wing of the party compared to what is coming.

I'd like to think I called current events.

Horning in on the prophecy biz, eh?

I figured you'd kneecap Nate Silver first.

The question is, what will the aftermath of trump be like in either event?

He wins and sets a precedent for a future shitshow and people to be crazy.

He loses but did quite well so future candidates try their arm with the same shit and a few refinements. Next candidate ends up being Conrad black or similar.

Seriously, name a candidate that can't fly with this shit. If Don rickles tried it he'd at least do as well as this.

Trump is, probably unknowingly, turning the Republican Party into the party of overt white nationalism.  That's where this ends up.
Title: Re: Election Night. Gimme My Fix.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 16, 2016, 08:37:09 pm

I figured you'd kneecap Nate Silver first.


Oh, I have plans for that fucker.  Just as soon as he steps on his dick in a suitably triumphant fashion.