Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 04:52:44 pm

Title: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 04:52:44 pm
As requested.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 04, 2016, 05:14:37 pm
I like this bar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 05:38:51 pm
Of course you do.  Everyone loves this bar.  And in return the bar loves you - it even loves the uneducated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 04, 2016, 07:22:39 pm
I misread the title as "open bra" I'm just here for the tits  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 07:34:16 pm
#MakeBrasGreatAgain
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 08:13:56 pm
This bar is a winner.  Total winner.  Yuge winner.  This bar is gonna win so much.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 08:35:49 pm
All Drumpfing aside, I'm experimenting with "smart drugs".  This should be interesting...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 08:49:00 pm
Which ones?  Did you read the latest Slate Star Codex about the Nootropics survey?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 04, 2016, 08:49:22 pm
All Drumpfing aside, I'm experimenting with "smart drugs".  This should be interesting...

Never experimented with nootropics personally but I would definitely be interested to hear about your experiences.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 08:51:56 pm
Never experimented with nootropics personally but I would definitely be interested to hear about your experiences.

Which ones?  Did you read the latest Slate Star Codex about the Nootropics survey?

Modafinil and derivatives.  It's actually mostly so I don't feel completely shattered come 3am on my night shift, and can function somewhat normally on the day I transition between night shift and normal sleep patterns, but it has also been mentioned as a potential "smart drug" before now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2016, 09:52:44 pm
This bar is honestly going to hell. The pagans are pouring into the bar… It’s far worse than anybody knows.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 09:55:31 pm
It's not enough to take out the pagans... We have to Go after their families, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2016, 09:59:27 pm
When Paganism sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems...they're bringing patchouli, they're bringing athames. They're eclectics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 04, 2016, 10:10:57 pm
When Paganism sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems...they're bringing patchouli, they're bringing athames. They're eclectics.

And I assume some of them are good people!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 10:16:01 pm
We're going to build a big, you know, an enormous Ignore button. It'll be huge. hUUUUGE. The biggest. And we'll get the pagans to pay for it. I'll make them pay for it. And they'll do it. Because I'm a leader. And that's what leaders do.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2016, 12:59:03 am
As requested.


:love:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2016, 01:00:57 am
As requested.


:love:

I actually really wanted that to be a big red bloody dripping heart, but I guess this will do.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on March 05, 2016, 09:50:43 pm
On it!

(http://i.imgur.com/zEvjZoV.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2016, 04:00:16 pm
I didn't get into the grad program.

I guess I have a year to sort myself off and try again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 07, 2016, 06:37:18 pm
Life is long.

Not that you need the advice, but maybe a year off to deal with your grief and adjust to your new realities will do you good. I hope that doesn't sound ridiculously condescending, I only say it because that's pretty much how I dealt with my dad's death and though I made plenty of awful choices during that time, in the end it did me a fuck-ton of good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2016, 12:59:51 am
Life is long.

Not that you need the advice, but maybe a year off to deal with your grief and adjust to your new realities will do you good. I hope that doesn't sound ridiculously condescending, I only say it because that's pretty much how I dealt with my dad's death and though I made plenty of awful choices during that time, in the end it did me a fuck-ton of good.

I think that diving into grad school would have been fine for me, but in some ways I'm grateful to have the reprieve. I can use it to take some post-bacc classes I'll need anyway, get some publication credits, and also to refine my research interests a little.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2016, 01:03:28 am
Sadly, the gap year means that I'll have to get a job, and start making loan payments. I'm fortunate to only owe for the first two years, at least.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 08, 2016, 01:24:59 am
Sorry to hear that Nigel, though as ECH mentions, there are still some upsides to it.

It's all drama at work tonight.  I rode in on the Drama Llama, I fed the Drama Llama, and then I set the Drama Llama on fire, in front of a crowd of awed onlookers.

Basically, student was being kinda shitty, using sickies to get off school, being a bit crap over the weekend.  My manager informs me his guests cannot stay long tonight.  His guests, upon being informed this, throw the most undignified hissy fit since Justin Bieber was informed he couldn't smoke in his hotel room.  It ended up in one of the students having a meltdown in front of, accusing me of stalking and trying to persecute him because I wanted his friend to die and that I had, apparently, upset the nation of Israel.

Needless to say, even though this occured over the space of 20 minutes, it's taken about 2 hours to write up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2016, 02:23:55 am
It rained ridiculous-sized hail cannonballs on us today.  :sadbanana:

So we all stayed inside and pretended to be busy.  :banana:

On the plus side, I am now about 20% done emptying my predecessor's immense pile of shit out of my office.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 08, 2016, 03:11:03 am
Sorry to hear that Nigel, though as ECH mentions, there are still some upsides to it.

It's all drama at work tonight.  I rode in on the Drama Llama, I fed the Drama Llama, and then I set the Drama Llama on fire, in front of a crowd of awed onlookers.

Basically, student was being kinda shitty, using sickies to get off school, being a bit crap over the weekend.  My manager informs me his guests cannot stay long tonight.  His guests, upon being informed this, throw the most undignified hissy fit since Justin Bieber was informed he couldn't smoke in his hotel room.  It ended up in one of the students having a meltdown in front of, accusing me of stalking and trying to persecute him because I wanted his friend to die and that I had, apparently, upset the nation of Israel.

Needless to say, even though this occured over the space of 20 minutes, it's taken about 2 hours to write up.

I am amaze. :aaa:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 08, 2016, 03:47:02 am
I just wrote a long email to my boss.  I am fairly confident this will be dealt with - interestingly, this school actually does enforce its rules, even if it is lacking in every other area, and the bureaucratic processes it goes through take forever.

According to the school nurse, whom I regularly exchange gossip with, the delusional student is well known for his anger management issues and, in her medical opinion, should be in a specialist school. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 08, 2016, 03:49:05 am
That's a thing.  I imagine if/when the student gets dealt with, it'll be another meltdown, by the logic presented.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2016, 05:50:38 am
Sorry to hear that Nigel, though as ECH mentions, there are still some upsides to it.

It's all drama at work tonight.  I rode in on the Drama Llama, I fed the Drama Llama, and then I set the Drama Llama on fire, in front of a crowd of awed onlookers.

Basically, student was being kinda shitty, using sickies to get off school, being a bit crap over the weekend.  My manager informs me his guests cannot stay long tonight.  His guests, upon being informed this, throw the most undignified hissy fit since Justin Bieber was informed he couldn't smoke in his hotel room.  It ended up in one of the students having a meltdown in front of, accusing me of stalking and trying to persecute him because I wanted his friend to die and that I had, apparently, upset the nation of Israel.

Needless to say, even though this occured over the space of 20 minutes, it's taken about 2 hours to write up.

Wow.  :lulz: This sounds like it should have had "Teenage Dirtbag" playing in the background.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 08, 2016, 05:53:34 am
Got some vacation time in for wed-fri and I'm off on the weekend. Going home to see the fam and have a birthday on Thr. Also set up a hot date for Tuesday night with an old friend I've not seen for way too long. I can get to Racine by about midnight after work, a 4 hour drive. So of course I get a hellish spring sinus cold come on.  :sad:

Ah well. Hopefully it will clear up by tomorrow night.

I'll check in here a few times I'm sure, but going to be kinda scarce for the week. Still REALLY thinking about a few threads, most notably LMNO's "what's it all for"
one. There's a distinction I think between "being Discordian" and being "a Discordian" as well as between Discordianism and (The?) Discordian Society that bear some thought. I'm not sure where to make distinctions exactly, but it's something I'm chewing on here and there.

If something important comes up just hit me on FB. I'm going to go try and have the time of my life with a bunch of rhinovirus replicating in my mucus membranes.

This fuckn' planet man...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Brother Mythos on March 08, 2016, 11:41:57 am
I didn't get into the grad program.

I guess I have a year to sort myself off and try again.

I’m sorry to read your grad school plans have been delayed, Nigel.

The best advice I can give is simple: Don’t give up. Review your options. Revise your plans.

For what it’s worth, I encountered a delay in completing my formal education too. Today, my biggest regret is not the delay, but that I didn’t make better use of my time while I was not in school. But, from what you’ve written, I’m certain you won’t make that mistake.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 08, 2016, 04:19:25 pm
I'm back from four days in shameless consumer land Universal Orlando, and I loved every second of it. Seven of my closest friends, Harry Potter World, Springfield, and OH, I got to hang out with Squid and Mr. Squid over a quick beer!

HI PD.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2016, 04:22:22 pm
I'm back from four days in shameless consumer land Universal Orlando, and I loved every second of it. Seven of my closest friends, Harry Potter World, Springfield, and OH, I got to hang out with Squid and Mr. Squid over a quick beer!

HI PD.

Did Squid kill you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 08, 2016, 04:51:41 pm
I'm back from four days in shameless consumer land Universal Orlando, and I loved every second of it. Seven of my closest friends, Harry Potter World, Springfield, and OH, I got to hang out with Squid and Mr. Squid over a quick beer!

HI PD.

Did Squid kill you?

No, but she was carrying a wand that looked suspiciously uhm, authentic, in comparison to the HP ones, and later that night I blew my nose and a chunk of swordfish came out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 08, 2016, 06:17:03 pm
I didn't get into the grad program.

I guess I have a year to sort myself off and try again.

I’m sorry to read your grad school plans have been delayed, Nigel.

The best advice I can give is simple: Don’t give up. Review your options. Revise your plans.

For what it’s worth, I encountered a delay in completing my formal education too. Today, my biggest regret is not the delay, but that I didn’t make better use of my time while I was not in school. But, from what you’ve written, I’m certain you won’t make that mistake.

Thank you!

I'm not as broken up about it as I might be, for a lot of reasons. Reason #1, of course, is that not getting into a graduate program is pretty damn trivial by comparison to the fact that my son isn't here. Reason #2 is that it gives me breathing room, time, as ECH mentioned, to grieve. Time also to see what shape this amazing new relationship I'm in will take now, especially with a new child joining our household.

Also, I was not originally planning on applying to grad school this year, I was going to wait because taking classes and applying to grad school is a whole lot to deal with at the same time. Plus my application will be stronger after I publish my thesis.

Lastly, I can take this time to sort out some post-bacc classes, finish pre-med requirements, gain some paid work experience and possibly get myself another publication, as well as talk to people at OHSU and try to find someone who is a good match for my research interests.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 09, 2016, 05:19:10 am
So, for the moment, the only actually reliable internet access I have is at work.

Urgh.  Good thing I'm doing all this overtime (tonight is 7 out of the last 9 nights that I have worked).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 06:27:53 pm
I fucking love when some alt is used to hijack one of my threads and talk past me.  OKAY, YOU WIN!  :lulz:

This is why I do my writing elsewhere these days.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 07:04:57 pm
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 09, 2016, 07:15:50 pm
Kids these days, getting side-tracked.  No sense of focus, I tell you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 07:41:43 pm
Kids these days, getting side-tracked.  No sense of focus, I tell you.

Yeeeah, right. Most folks here have been studiously ignoring me since the end of December. 

I'm okay with that, provided they don't expect to ever speak with me on FB or IRL.   :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 09, 2016, 09:03:16 pm
I fucking love when some alt is used to hijack one of my threads and talk past me.  OKAY, YOU WIN!  :lulz:

This is why I do my writing elsewhere these days.

I miss Roger rants :( They make my brain feel funny.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 09:42:08 pm
I fucking love when some alt is used to hijack one of my threads and talk past me.  OKAY, YOU WIN!  :lulz:

This is why I do my writing elsewhere these days.

I miss Roger rants :( They make my brain feel funny.

Once upon a time, long long ago and far away, the previous board owner, speaking for herself and the mods, told me "we would like you to rant here, but not to otherwise post."   That ended well. 

Granted, that was a lot more blatant than the sorta-shunning and snubs recently, but still, a snub is a snub.  And I would feel as if I had betrayed my principles if I did not overreact.  I will not write or rant for people that despise me to the point where I am deliberately spoken past in conversation, among other things.  I am, despite appearances, not a trained monkey.

So someone else can do the ranting.  Here, at any rate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 09, 2016, 10:07:09 pm
Hard to imagine how they thought that would end well for them...

I know you're gonna do whatever you feel is right - just felt I should break from my mostly-lurker status to say that I appreciate your perspective on a lot of things.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 10:12:44 pm
Hard to imagine how they thought that would end well for them...

I know you're gonna do whatever you feel is right - just felt I should break from my mostly-lurker status to say that I appreciate your perspective on a lot of things.

Thank you.  That means a lot right now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 09, 2016, 10:17:59 pm
Sorry for making the SGITR worse.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 10:24:08 pm
Sorry for making the SGITR worse.

S'ok.  I'll get over the whole thing.  It's just that I really hate that fucker.  There's no way that was an accident.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2016, 10:26:09 pm
Look, we can we all be the SGitR? That I will tell you. We're doing it, ok? And I understand what you're saying, I hear it all the time. People call me and say "Is it really as bad as you say?". That's what they are asking me, its unbelievable. The SGiTR numbers are in big trouble, that I can tell you. But we are going to do it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 09, 2016, 10:34:06 pm
Oh, no you di'int.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2016, 12:36:26 am
Oh, no you di'int.

I felt that it was kind of a moral imperative.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2016, 12:56:04 am
So I've been called into a meeting, on a day I'm not at work, to discuss Monday night's incident.

I swear to God, if they are going to try and put this back on me, I will burn every last one of them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2016, 12:57:24 am
So I've been called into a meeting, on a day I'm not at work, to discuss Monday night's incident.

I swear to God, if they are going to try and put this back on me, I will burn every last one of them.

I'd keep the gasoline out, if I were you.  I can smell this coming.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2016, 01:00:39 am
Maybe.

On the other hand, we're running a skeleton crew and one of the staff recently got signed off for stress (if the rumours are true).  I'm basically the most senior, in terms of time with the company, member of staff they have right now.  If I go, it leaves all but 1 shift understaffed.

But they're pretty unpredictable at the best of times, so I'm not taking chances.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2016, 03:37:38 am
Maybe.

On the other hand, we're running a skeleton crew and one of the staff recently got signed off for stress (if the rumours are true).  I'm basically the most senior, in terms of time with the company, member of staff they have right now.  If I go, it leaves all but 1 shift understaffed.

But they're pretty unpredictable at the best of times, so I'm not taking chances.

Do not expect survival-based behavior from crazy people.  It's why they're crazy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Sung Low on March 10, 2016, 03:55:03 am
I met someone I connected with. I fucked it up by being needy and doubtful. Still, I feel glad that I met this person.


also, cheers TGGR for posting THIS GEM http://bennycent.ytmnd.com/





Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2016, 04:07:27 am
I met someone I connected with. I fucked it up by being needy and doubtful. Still, I feel glad that I met this person.


also, cheers TGGR for posting THIS GEM http://bennycent.ytmnd.com/

Is it just kinda fucked, or proper fucked?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2016, 02:53:05 pm
Maybe.

On the other hand, we're running a skeleton crew and one of the staff recently got signed off for stress (if the rumours are true).  I'm basically the most senior, in terms of time with the company, member of staff they have right now.  If I go, it leaves all but 1 shift understaffed.

But they're pretty unpredictable at the best of times, so I'm not taking chances.

Do not expect survival-based behavior from crazy people.  It's why they're crazy.

Indeed.

Looks like one of the students is already suing them for other reasons, and so they want to cover their backs, based on the meeting I just had.

Maybe.  But we'll see.

Worst comes to worst, I'll point out I was being interviewed after my 4th overnight shift, on less than 4 hours of sleep, if they want to try and come at me.  And then I'll throw a year of bad decision-making in their faces.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Sung Low on March 10, 2016, 05:09:55 pm
I met someone I connected with. I fucked it up by being needy and doubtful. Still, I feel glad that I met this person.


also, cheers TGGR for posting THIS GEM http://bennycent.ytmnd.com/

Is it just kinda fucked, or proper fucked?

Not proper fucked, in that I think we'd still get along if we met up. I just got scared about how real it seemed, if that makes sense, and backed off. Now it's possible she's not even in the same country. It was some of the easiest, natural and honest conversations I've had with someone.

I met an intelligent, funny, generous and straight talking person who feels that big love, and my emotionally stunted self said retreat. I am genuinely happy that I met her, though. Even if I messed up something potentially good, I also felt some true love and wouldn't change that.


For clarity, this was last summer but I'll be damned if it doesn't still chew on me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2016, 06:22:50 pm
Our legislature is once again "considering" allowing completely unrestricted electronic billboards anywhere in Arizona.  Which is full of observatories.

Also, the people pushing the bill want to put up a couple of dozen of them along the sides of the grand canyon, making it as romantic as Niagara Falls became after it was surrounded by hi-rise buildings.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2016, 06:41:29 pm
"Science" is merely hating god put into action.

And nothing says scenic like "five star resort full of obnoxious fucking tourists".
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 10, 2016, 06:49:20 pm
I finally was gonna migrate all my shit from my old mac to my new mac, and my old mac is now unresponsive. Grrrr.

In less frustrating news, I learned a new word today, which I think I will have a LOT of use for. "Hoon". https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hooning
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 10, 2016, 06:52:01 pm
I got invited to join an elite scientist forum. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on March 10, 2016, 08:19:41 pm
I finally was gonna migrate all my shit from my old mac to my new mac, and my old mac is now unresponsive. Grrrr.

In less frustrating news, I learned a new word today, which I think I will have a LOT of use for. "Hoon". https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hooning

Can confirm, New Zealanders regularly "go for a hoon".
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 10, 2016, 08:56:02 pm
I finally was gonna migrate all my shit from my old mac to my new mac, and my old mac is now unresponsive. Grrrr.

In less frustrating news, I learned a new word today, which I think I will have a LOT of use for. "Hoon". https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hooning

Can confirm, New Zealanders regularly "go for a hoon".

What's the origin of the word? I was speculating that it's an onomatopoeia because it does sound roughly like the sound made by rednecks yelling from a passing pickup.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on March 11, 2016, 03:26:43 am
I got invited to join an elite scientist forum. :lulz:

Is it filled with engineers?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on March 11, 2016, 03:52:28 am
Oh great, my dad thinks vaccines are made from babies now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Brother Mythos on March 11, 2016, 06:03:05 am
I got invited to join an elite scientist forum. :lulz:

Congratulations, Nigel!

It looks like your career is progressing nicely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 11, 2016, 07:27:56 am
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pergamos on March 11, 2016, 08:02:49 am
Oh great, my dad thinks vaccines are made from babies now.

It's actually the other way round.  Either that or they lied in school when they told me how babies were made...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on March 11, 2016, 09:30:04 am
I finally was gonna migrate all my shit from my old mac to my new mac, and my old mac is now unresponsive. Grrrr.

In less frustrating news, I learned a new word today, which I think I will have a LOT of use for. "Hoon". https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hooning

Can confirm, New Zealanders regularly "go for a hoon".

What's the origin of the word? I was speculating that it's an onomatopoeia because it does sound roughly like the sound made by rednecks yelling from a passing pickup.
I'd say shortened "hooligan" sounds right. Also just sounds right when shouted. For science I tried:

"Look at him, fucking hoon"
"Fucking hoon's going to get himself killed"

Both are surprisingly satisfying.

Also, I love this, it's just written for the police;

Quote
In New South Wales, the word "hoon" is actually contained in the name of the legislation - the Road Transport Legislation Amendment (Car Hoons) Act 2008 enacted in July 2008 - which introduced new measures against street racing and increased fines.
"Tell me the fucking law that says I can't do that!"
"Fucking Car Hoons 2008 Son! Get in the van."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 11, 2016, 01:17:10 pm
Is "Hoon" the new "Spag"?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2016, 05:37:51 pm
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

Congratulations and good luck!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2016, 05:55:59 pm
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

Strikes me you'll make a hell of a father. Congrats and good luck!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2016, 09:30:20 pm
I got invited to join an elite scientist forum. :lulz:

Is it filled with engineers?

Not that I could see. I don't think they're invited to the party.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2016, 09:30:57 pm
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

OMG!!!  :mittens:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2016, 09:31:55 pm
I finally was gonna migrate all my shit from my old mac to my new mac, and my old mac is now unresponsive. Grrrr.

In less frustrating news, I learned a new word today, which I think I will have a LOT of use for. "Hoon". https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hooning

Can confirm, New Zealanders regularly "go for a hoon".

What's the origin of the word? I was speculating that it's an onomatopoeia because it does sound roughly like the sound made by rednecks yelling from a passing pickup.
I'd say shortened "hooligan" sounds right. Also just sounds right when shouted. For science I tried:

"Look at him, fucking hoon"
"Fucking hoon's going to get himself killed"

Both are surprisingly satisfying.

Also, I love this, it's just written for the police;

Quote
In New South Wales, the word "hoon" is actually contained in the name of the legislation - the Road Transport Legislation Amendment (Car Hoons) Act 2008 enacted in July 2008 - which introduced new measures against street racing and increased fines.
"Tell me the fucking law that says I can't do that!"
"Fucking Car Hoons 2008 Son! Get in the van."

 :lulz: Awesome.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 11, 2016, 11:58:55 pm
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

That was the second worst part when I had the monkey.

Also, OMG GOOD LUCK!  CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 12, 2016, 03:29:42 am
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

That was the second worst part when I had the monkey.

Also, OMG GOOD LUCK!  CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Dare I ask?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 12, 2016, 08:35:14 pm
I'm so anxious for a baby update!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 12, 2016, 11:10:00 pm
Still no baby. This little girl is stubborn. ECHGF was 2cm dilated BEFORE they scraped the membrane on thursday so I feel like it should have happened by now but I'm neither a doctor nor a baby so what do I know?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on March 13, 2016, 01:15:10 am
Good luck man, hope it goes as smoothly as it can.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on March 13, 2016, 01:27:03 am
Wow! Congrats on your baby almost being here, ECH, and hope everything goes really well!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2016, 01:44:29 am
Still no baby. This little girl is stubborn. ECHGF was 2cm dilated BEFORE they scraped the membrane on thursday so I feel like it should have happened by now but I'm neither a doctor nor a baby so what do I know?

What we really need is the input of a baby doctor.

Seriously though, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 13, 2016, 04:44:11 am
So our OB/GYN "stripped the membrane" today. So supposedly baby girl will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.

That was the second worst part when I had the monkey.

Also, OMG GOOD LUCK!  CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Dare I ask?

The worst was when he actually came out. 

Still hoping the best for you and ECHGF!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 13, 2016, 06:43:35 am
Still no baby. This little girl is stubborn. ECHGF was 2cm dilated BEFORE they scraped the membrane on thursday so I feel like it should have happened by now but I'm neither a doctor nor a baby so what do I know?

Babies and labor can be very particular; it's hard to make it happen until the moment when the fetus gives that unknown signal that starts the cascade of cellular events that leads to labor. Women walk around a few cm dilated for weeks sometimes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 13, 2016, 04:29:28 pm
Still no baby. This little girl is stubborn. ECHGF was 2cm dilated BEFORE they scraped the membrane on thursday so I feel like it should have happened by now but I'm neither a doctor nor a baby so what do I know?

Babies and labor can be very particular; it's hard to make it happen until the moment when the fetus gives that unknown signal that starts the cascade of cellular events that leads to labor. Women walk around a few cm dilated for weeks sometimes.

Can confirm: I was at 3 for the last month or more with both kiddos.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 14, 2016, 11:51:03 am
So, this weekend I wound up in a devil's threesome, abetting trespass on tribal land, and gaining unauthorized entry onto a naval base.

I know nobody wants to hear about anyone else's sex life, but that's just one of those sentences that's too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 14, 2016, 01:31:00 pm
I've heard of a devils threesome, what sex acts are abetting trespass on tribal land and gaining unauthorized entry onto a naval base? I googled the latter and now I'm on a list.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 14, 2016, 03:21:04 pm
Pretty sure those are sex acts, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 14, 2016, 04:18:52 pm
Pretty sure those are sex acts, too.

Being put on a list is my favorite one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2016, 05:55:58 pm
My Nannywall just told me "PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA IS NOT SAFE".

Why, thank you, Nannywall, I was blissfully ignorant of that until you opened your big fat mouth.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 14, 2016, 10:46:15 pm
No that was a call to arms, it means our enemies are moving towards the servers. "This website is not safe, do what you must to defend it"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 12:00:19 am
So, after a week of modafinil usage, here are my initial impressions:

- It works.  I feel less tired and more alert and mentally able throughout the night
- it's pretty subtle in its actual effects.  There's not much in the way of a "high" or extra energy that one would get from, say, drinking a can of Red Bull
- the tiredness is still there, if I pay attention.  However, it feels like it is in the back of my mind, compartmentalized, and so can be ignored
- the appetite reduction properties are much the same.  I can eat before work, then go the full 12 hours at work on nothing more than a fancy skinny latte and some sugarfree drinks.  I'm aware I should feel hungry, but it's a feeling I can put aside and ignore
- I'm pretty sure this isn't just a placebo effect, though it could be
- there's not much difference between the dosages.  150-200 both seem fine, though the lower one does seem to wear off a bit earlier
- I've been taking it along with food an hour before my shift.  My shift is 12 and 1/2 hours long.  I have no problems getting to sleep afterwards.
- I haven't noticed any cognitive enhancement properties.  This could be just because my job is that braindead simple, however.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2016, 12:39:31 am
No that was a call to arms, it means our enemies are moving towards the servers. "This website is not safe, do what you must to defend it"

It would be like invading Britain.  You either become British or go mad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: rong on March 15, 2016, 12:46:32 am
So, after a week of modafinil usage, here are my initial impressions:

- It works.  I feel less tired and more alert and mentally able throughout the night
- it's pretty subtle in its actual effects.  There's not much in the way of a "high" or extra energy that one would get from, say, drinking a can of Red Bull
- the tiredness is still there, if I pay attention.  However, it feels like it is in the back of my mind, compartmentalized, and so can be ignored
- the appetite reduction properties are much the same.  I can eat before work, then go the full 12 hours at work on nothing more than a fancy skinny latte and some sugarfree drinks.  I'm aware I should feel hungry, but it's a feeling I can put aside and ignore
- I'm pretty sure this isn't just a placebo effect, though it could be
- there's not much difference between the dosages.  150-200 both seem fine, though the lower one does seem to wear off a bit earlier
- I've been taking it along with food an hour before my shift.  My shift is 12 and 1/2 hours long.  I have no problems getting to sleep afterwards.
- I haven't noticed any cognitive enhancement properties.  This could be just because my job is that braindead simple, however.

do you find you are sleeping an appropriate length of time?  i work rotating shifts - 12 hrs, 4 on, 4 off, alternating days and nights, so like: 4 days of dayshift, 7AM-7PM, 4 days off, 4 midnights 7PM-7AM, 4 days off - repeat.  I love the schedule - 2 day weekends are for suckas - but lately - I can't seem to sleep more than a few hours during the day when I'm on midnights and the transition from midnights back to days kicks my ass pretty hard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 12:51:34 am
The transition days are always a PITA, yeah.  I just accept that, on that day, I'm going to get 4 hours of sleep, get up, feel like shit and try to have a normal day - even if I spend most of it collapsed in front of a TV, drinking coffee.

I've always been good about trying to maximise my sleep time when I'm working, so, unless something goes horribly wrong I always get at least 7 good hours of sleep during the day.  The occasional illness, stomach bug, police disco extravaganza right outside the building etc sometimes prevent this, but as a rule, I am for 8 hours of sleep as a preference, 7 as a minimum.

As far as I can tell, the modafinil doesn't disrupt my sleep at all.  I had a rough day today sleep wise - lots of waking up and falling back asleep - but I don't think it's necessarily related, as there were no problems on the other days I used it. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: rong on March 15, 2016, 12:59:52 am
do you take the modafinil like, say, a cup of coffee - that is, when you know you'll need to stay awake for a while-  or is it more like a supplement that you take on a routine, regular schedule
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 01:48:19 am
I only take it on the nights I'm working.  Apparently you do build a tolerance up to it, so I figure best only to use it when needed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on March 15, 2016, 01:54:52 am
This is weird, SWIM was just inquiring about suvorexant, which I think is an orexin antagonist, for sleeping.  I don't know practically anything about this receptor, curiosity now piqued.
*scratches chin *
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2016, 02:14:20 am
I have been eating clam chowder 2 meals a day since Friday.

I feel a great and terrible spirit moving me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2016, 02:57:08 am
SEND THE CDC!  SEND THE BOMB SQUAD!   :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 03:32:40 am
I've never actually tried clam chowder.  There must be somewhere in London that delivers...

Bwahaha, 5 seconds on Google and I already have a place (https://deliveroo.co.uk/menu/london/soho/randall-&-aubin)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2016, 03:47:35 am
I've never actually tried clam chowder.  There must be somewhere in London that delivers...

Bwahaha, 5 seconds on Google and I already have a place (https://deliveroo.co.uk/menu/london/soho/randall-&-aubin)

It's amazing.  But it does things to your guts.  Horrible, horrible things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 03:52:39 am
Depending how much weight I've lost this week, I may have to try.  And everything does terrible things to my gut, so I think I'll be fine.  Or at least, no worse than usual :p
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 15, 2016, 08:47:01 am
"PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA IS NOT SAFE"


Newsfeed?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 15, 2016, 11:58:27 am
I've never actually tried clam chowder.  There must be somewhere in London that delivers...

Bwahaha, 5 seconds on Google and I already have a place (https://deliveroo.co.uk/menu/london/soho/randall-&-aubin)

It's amazing.  But it does things to your guts.  Horrible, horrible things.

It's basically cream, flour, and shellfish.  Maybe a potato.  WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 15, 2016, 01:58:35 pm
My Nannywall just told me "PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA IS NOT SAFE".

Why, thank you, Nannywall, I was blissfully ignorant of that until you opened your big fat mouth.

My office nannywall blocked it as "Cult/Occult." I have no complaints.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 03:17:12 pm
I've never actually tried clam chowder.  There must be somewhere in London that delivers...

Bwahaha, 5 seconds on Google and I already have a place (https://deliveroo.co.uk/menu/london/soho/randall-&-aubin)

It's amazing.  But it does things to your guts.  Horrible, horrible things.

It's basically cream, flour, and shellfish.  Maybe a potato.  WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

The Irish could put a bomb in it.

Taking modafinil on my transition day seems to be a working tactic thus far.  I've now been up 23 hours, and normally I'd be cursing and hating myself and desperately trying to not fall asleep.  Instead, I'm finally watching The Man In The High Castle and feeling relatively decent.

We'll see if this holds until 22:00.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 15, 2016, 03:48:20 pm
Some asshats in the Common Sense FB group are REALLY MAD that I don't agree with anarchism as a political philosophy and are trying to sell me on it. They are mostly doing this by calling me an idiot and insisting that they have read books that have all the answers to my stupid plebeian questions.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 15, 2016, 05:50:24 pm
That's the downside of books - You'll find any answer to any stupid plebeian question written by some idiot somewhere. Book burning? Yeah, call me controversial but I reckon you should probably burn most of them :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2016, 08:38:37 pm
I'm trying to study for my neurophysiology final, but I'm having  the problem of just not caring anymore.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2016, 10:13:37 pm
Held onto 2200.  Don't feel great...but I feel better than I would if I had tried this with no chemical assistance, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2016, 12:23:00 am
Some asshats in the Common Sense FB group are REALLY MAD that I don't agree with anarchism as a political philosophy and are trying to sell me on it. They are mostly doing this by calling me an idiot and insisting that they have read books that have all the answers to my stupid plebeian questions.

I'd like to thank you for adding me to that zoo.  It's been months of entertainment.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 16, 2016, 04:08:43 am
Some asshats in the Common Sense FB group are REALLY MAD that I don't agree with anarchism as a political philosophy and are trying to sell me on it. They are mostly doing this by calling me an idiot and insisting that they have read books that have all the answers to my stupid plebeian questions.

I'd like to thank you for adding me to that zoo.  It's been months of entertainment.   :lulz:

It's sort of like the best ball pit ever, only instead of finding the occasional turd amidst the balls, it's mostly just turds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 16, 2016, 09:02:21 am
Of course we will overcome the tragedy of the commons with good intentions, it's just common sense.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 16, 2016, 09:23:12 pm
Welp, since the UK is banning all drugs that are not specifically allowed, as of next month (no exaggeration, this is exactly what the law in question does), and modafinil is not allowed, I've just ordered a buttload of pills on the internets.

I mean, this law will probably fall apart at some point, given how insanely stupid it is....but I don't want to be the test case, you know?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 16, 2016, 11:24:43 pm
So the baby is still stuck on the starting block a nd I've almost burned through the time I had allotted to be out of work. My employers are super cool about it, they've told me that I can have as much time as I need, not to stress about being gone from work, and it sounds like they might even give me a week PTO to cover some of it even though I technically wouldn't have any PTO to use until a year from my promotion to management, which was only about 6 weeks ago. Whatever isn't accounted for by that I can make up to them with a few weeks of creative scheduling, probably, but I still do have to go back to work sometime and I do still have to pay rent and bills and while I very much appreciate not having to worry about being out of a job or ending up on the street, I still feel like I shouldn't have to creatively mortgage my time just to be able to take care of my partner during a difficult last week of pregnancy and have a few days at home bonding with my new born baby and helping my partner recuperate.

So basically, fuck this entire pack of hind-tit-sucking halfwits of a country for not having a goddamned paid family leave plan like, oh, every other at-least-marginally-functioning nation-state on the ENTIRE PLANET except for PNG. That's it, us and PNG. Good fucking job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2016, 11:57:26 pm
Of course we will overcome the tragedy of the commons with good intentions, it's just common sense.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2016, 11:58:07 pm
So the baby is still stuck on the starting block a nd I've almost burned through the time I had allotted to be out of work. My employers are super cool about it, they've told me that I can have as much time as I need, not to stress about being gone from work, and it sounds like they might even give me a week PTO to cover some of it even though I technically wouldn't have any PTO to use until a year from my promotion to management, which was only about 6 weeks ago. Whatever isn't accounted for by that I can make up to them with a few weeks of creative scheduling, probably, but I still do have to go back to work sometime and I do still have to pay rent and bills and while I very much appreciate not having to worry about being out of a job or ending up on the street, I still feel like I shouldn't have to creatively mortgage my time just to be able to take care of my partner during a difficult last week of pregnancy and have a few days at home bonding with my new born baby and helping my partner recuperate.

So basically, fuck this entire pack of hind-tit-sucking halfwits of a country for not having a goddamned paid family leave plan like, oh, every other at-least-marginally-functioning nation-state on the ENTIRE PLANET except for PNG. That's it, us and PNG. Good fucking job.

SERIOUSLY THIS. SO FUCKING HARD.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2016, 11:58:30 pm
Some asshats in the Common Sense FB group are REALLY MAD that I don't agree with anarchism as a political philosophy and are trying to sell me on it. They are mostly doing this by calling me an idiot and insisting that they have read books that have all the answers to my stupid plebeian questions.

I'd like to thank you for adding me to that zoo.  It's been months of entertainment.   :lulz:

It's sort of like the best ball pit ever, only instead of finding the occasional turd amidst the balls, it's mostly just turds.

This also basically describes the entirety of Facebook.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2016, 11:59:20 pm
Took my final. Probably did fine. Met with my advisor; I am on for staying in her lab for the next year, until I get into grad school or whatever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 12:39:40 am
So the baby is still stuck on the starting block a nd I've almost burned through the time I had allotted to be out of work. My employers are super cool about it, they've told me that I can have as much time as I need, not to stress about being gone from work, and it sounds like they might even give me a week PTO to cover some of it even though I technically wouldn't have any PTO to use until a year from my promotion to management, which was only about 6 weeks ago. Whatever isn't accounted for by that I can make up to them with a few weeks of creative scheduling, probably, but I still do have to go back to work sometime and I do still have to pay rent and bills and while I very much appreciate not having to worry about being out of a job or ending up on the street, I still feel like I shouldn't have to creatively mortgage my time just to be able to take care of my partner during a difficult last week of pregnancy and have a few days at home bonding with my new born baby and helping my partner recuperate.

So basically, fuck this entire pack of hind-tit-sucking halfwits of a country for not having a goddamned paid family leave plan like, oh, every other at-least-marginally-functioning nation-state on the ENTIRE PLANET except for PNG. That's it, us and PNG. Good fucking job.

This is exactly the sort of thing that allowed a few trips to Europe to turn me into a full-out socialist.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Nast on March 17, 2016, 12:42:00 am
Is Facebook dead lately or am I just really unpopular? I remember when I used to get a bunch of new notifications everyday, but now it's like barely a few each week.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 12:53:31 am
Is Facebook dead lately or am I just really unpopular? I remember when I used to get a bunch of new notifications everyday, but now it's like barely a few each week.

who are you on FB?  I can add you to some groups that are more fun than you really wanted.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 03:03:15 am
Oh, right.  Never mind.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Nast on March 17, 2016, 04:32:06 am
Oh, right.  Never mind.   :lulz:

Sorry for the delay! I wasn't ignoring you. PM and friend request sent.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 04:55:17 am
Oh, right.  Never mind.   :lulz:

Sorry for the delay! I wasn't ignoring you. PM and friend request sent.

I just accepted about 20 friend requests, most of whom are socks of people I have offended.  Hang on a sec.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 05:01:30 am
Right, I added you to FA.

The very first thing you should never do is fuck with Cindy.  She and Mike are preggers and she's a bit of a berserker right now.

Other than that, go nuts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2016, 05:07:11 am
Stella and Cainad are there, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Nast on March 17, 2016, 05:22:46 am
Am currently scoping out what mire of internet horror I have come across again. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 17, 2016, 05:45:14 pm
Is Facebook dead lately or am I just really unpopular? I remember when I used to get a bunch of new notifications everyday, but now it's like barely a few each week.

I don't even know because Facebook changed its algorithms a few weeks ago such that it is now useless for anything but groups. My feed is such a clusterfuck that I gave up on it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2016, 12:05:33 am
35 Mw laser is busted.

I am staying overnight on the mountain to fix it, because I am apparently the gigantic laser repair dude.  The EM guys are afraid of it because it's 480VAC instead of the 230VAC they're used to.

THE METHODS OF FUCKING THOSE TWO VOLTAGES UP - AND THE PENALTIES FOR DOING SO - ARE IDENTICAL.

Superstition, even up here.  I could cry, I really could.

Also, finally met the big boss, and he is apparently Jim's slightly more aware twin.  Except that he isn't a religious nut and doesn't hate me.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 18, 2016, 01:19:21 am
Soooo, does anyone remember a thread where someone here had an amazing skill, wherein (that?) they were able to convert any mundane statement, paragraph, or story into corporate mumbo jumbo?

I pretty much only had the time and attention span for this single thread link request. I'll add to my shitposts when I have the time and have fallen off my ego cliff this week.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: President Television on March 18, 2016, 01:24:30 am
Soooo, does anyone remember a thread where someone here had an amazing skill, wherein (that?) they were able to convert any mundane statement, paragraph, or story into corporate mumbo jumbo?

I pretty much only had the time and attention span for this single thread link request. I'll add to my shitposts when I have the time and have fallen off my ego cliff this week.

I don't know what thread it was, but I do know it was LMNO that could do it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 18, 2016, 01:28:08 am
If that is the case, then I have a wedding proposal for LMNO (Yes, very homo), and I may now have a more effective way of searching for de fread. Thank ye kindly!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 18, 2016, 01:42:53 am
I just bumped the thread.  The handiwork was V3X's.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 18, 2016, 02:55:40 am
I just bumped the thread.  The handiwork was V3X's.

Aha! Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2016, 03:03:25 am
Stupid laser with it's stupid interlocks and stupid redundant safeguards and stupid astronomers.

The moon NEEDS Mr Dickbuttz on it.  I fail to see how this is not inherently obvious.

Anyway, fucking thing is lasering stuff.  I still have to hang around all night to make sure that it continues to laser stupid stuff that isn't the moon.  Also, not driving 70 miles on the highway on Saint Boghopper Day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 18, 2016, 09:15:09 am
So lemme get this straight - you (Roger the trustworthy) now have the capability to fire MOTHERFUCKEN LAZORZ AT THE MOTHERFUCKEN MOON??   :? :eek: :fap: :horrormirth:  8)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 18, 2016, 12:10:24 pm
I just bumped the thread.  The handiwork was V3X's.

Aha! Thank you very much!

There might be a few more kicking around.  I'll see what I can find.

Ah.  Yes, the thread where Roger asked me to compose a memo full of buzzwords, with no meaning whatsoever.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=31365.0
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 18, 2016, 05:23:19 pm
I just bumped the thread.  The handiwork was V3X's.

Aha! Thank you very much!

There might be a few more kicking around.  I'll see what I can find.

Ah.  Yes, the thread where Roger asked me to compose a memo full of buzzwords, with no meaning whatsoever.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=31365.0

With the combination of both threads, it hurts to talk on the phone today due to uncontrollable laughter. I am now being asked to take a drug test.

Fucking GOLD. May implement this into my work emails here and there. Will definitely let you guys know how it turns out. You guys are literally infinite, original entertainment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2016, 05:28:25 pm
So lemme get this straight - you (Roger the trustworthy) now have the capability to fire MOTHERFUCKEN LAZORZ AT THE MOTHERFUCKEN MOON??   :? :eek: :fap: :horrormirth:  8)

35 megawatts of love for all of you.

But they tell me no.  They tell me my love is wrong.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 18, 2016, 05:33:27 pm
THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND OUR LOVE
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2016, 09:31:44 pm
Science cannot explain accordions.  There is nothing in their internal workings that would produce such a hideous noise.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 19, 2016, 02:41:53 am
Science cannot explain accordions.  There is nothing in their internal workings that would produce such a hideous noise.

Tiny, immortal pixies on stretcher racks. Darkest secret of the entire Accordian Society  :fnord:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 19, 2016, 02:53:16 am
I don't want to speak too soon....but it looks like my internet is finally fixed  :fap:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 19, 2016, 02:56:16 am
I don't want to speak too soon....but it looks like my internet is finally fixed  :fap:

That's good! I've heard that Internets tend to turn into horrible little bastards and start spraying all over the place if you don't get them fixed in time. :p
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2016, 04:03:11 am
I don't want to speak too soon....but it looks like my internet is finally fixed  :fap:

Woot!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2016, 04:21:18 am
step 1: idiot on fb claims there is no 'black' or 'white' in skin, it's colorless and something about being exposed to a lot of sun.
step 2: post link to melanin on wikipedia
step 3: get called a bitch and a harpy, idiot claims he didn't say what he said
step 4: repeat what he said

Victory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on March 19, 2016, 05:23:41 am
Observation: drunk people are, by and large, boring as hell.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Nast on March 19, 2016, 05:52:46 am
Observation: drunk people are, by and large, boring as hell.

SERIOUSLY.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2016, 06:09:58 am
Observation: drunk people are, by and large, boring as hell.

If you're with the right people, you can ignore this if you yourself are drunk.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on March 19, 2016, 06:24:13 am
Oh hell, most of the time I'M the drunk one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2016, 06:51:22 am
Oh hell, most of the time I'M the drunk one.

I used to do that, but the hangovers are more pain than the drunk is fun, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 19, 2016, 04:09:44 pm
Observation: drunk people are, by and large, boring as hell.

Especially when they are the only other person around.
And watching them stumble to the bathroom is probably the most depressing thing you can ever watch.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Salty on March 19, 2016, 07:24:52 pm
I wanted to own a bar for such a long time. A bar where there are no TVs, old country music overhead, and maybe very small, a bar and a row of tables behind it. Very, very soft, cushy stools. The Soft Stool.

Then I realized I hate being around drunk people when I'm not and sometimes when I am.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 19, 2016, 10:28:31 pm
BREAKING NEWS:

It is not so easy to find a push-up bra in larger cup sizes.

 :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2016, 01:49:13 am
I think there's a tendency to smother oneself, or at least what's know in the scene I run in as "titloaf".
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2016, 02:36:49 am
BREAKING NEWS:

It is not so easy to find a push-up bra in larger cup sizes.

 :sad:

Nope.  I had the best luck with Victoria's Secret, their Angel Dreams Push-Up is AMAZING and equally EXPENSIVE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2016, 03:18:28 am
I think there's a tendency to smother oneself, or at least what's know in the scene I run in as "titloaf".

I just want something that gives the appropriate degree of cleavage in a vintage swing-style dress. I usually prefer Natori but they're basically like, DD? We aren't helping you with that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2016, 03:19:07 am
BREAKING NEWS:

It is not so easy to find a push-up bra in larger cup sizes.

 :sad:

Nope.  I had the best luck with Victoria's Secret, their Angel Dreams Push-Up is AMAZING and equally EXPENSIVE.

I was eyeballing their stuff, I used to wear it all the time but haven't in a few years. I will probably end up giving them a try.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2016, 07:07:06 am
After waiting almost all night for a student to return:

"OK, I'm going to have to print off the fire list now."
Press print button.
Computer responds.
No less than 5 seconds later the student in question returns.
I silently scowl, and update the list again

 :x
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 02:16:36 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.



Unrelated:

Question about the forum that is too small to make a thread for in the recommended site section: If I edit a post or comment, does it show as a new reply notification for the thread to everyone else? I had made a post that had gotten very little replies after editing the main post. It's completely understandable if nobody posted because they weren't interested in the thread. I just didn't want the lack of activity to be because of a lack of understanding of the notification mechanics. Didn't know if it was better to make a new post in the thread, or edit the OP for aesthetics (bruh).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 20, 2016, 02:34:32 pm
It wont generate a new notification if its edited, if you're using it as repository style its common for people to edit the original post to add in more information, and post an update message to refresh the thread.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 02:40:52 pm
It wont generate a new notification if its edited, if you're using it as repository style its common for people to edit the original post to add in more information, and post an update message to refresh the thread.

Noted for the future. Thank you, sir!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2016, 06:15:34 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2016, 06:25:49 pm
I wanted to own a bar for such a long time. A bar where there are no TVs, old country music overhead, and maybe very small, a bar and a row of tables behind it. Very, very soft, cushy stools. The Soft Stool.

Then I realized I hate being around drunk people when I'm not and sometimes when I am.

Bars without TV are the best kind of bars, and sorely needed around here. The Beech, the Free House, and the Red Fox are all TV-less, but that's what, three bars out of the 150 or so that are local to us?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 06:50:36 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2016, 07:19:32 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.

It's not hard to find pretty bras in my size; Natori, Curvy Kate, and Freya all make very nice bras. It's just hard to find pretty push-up bras in my size because apparently most manufacturers assume that if our cups runneth over, we're never going to want to accentuate them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 08:31:52 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.

It's not hard to find pretty bras in my size; Natori, Curvy Kate, and Freya all make very nice bras. It's just hard to find pretty push-up bras in my size because apparently most manufacturers assume that if our cups runneth over, we're never going to want to accentuate them.

I gotchya. I'm quite sure it was a push-up, but I'll find out for certain. I may have been unclear because I was speaking on the basis that specifically mentioned bras we were talking about were push-up.

Also, if it's not technically a push-up, they used a technique other than extra lower padding to... uhh... accentuate them. Her girls are definitely more accentuated in this bra than in her others.

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, and she simply got a DD bra instead and put it on the biggest clip setting, pushin' 'em up and out the lazy consumer way.

Also heard of the toilet paper trick (Am I remembering shit from romantic comedies now? FUCK).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2016, 08:45:09 pm
Please don't tell me you're telling a woman who has breasts how a push-up bra works.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 08:55:04 pm
Please don't tell me you're telling a woman who has breasts how a push-up bra works.

God no. Wtf. As far as I knew, the main way a push-up bra works was with extra lower padding. I was pointing out that if the bra wasn't using that, that it probably used a method I wasn't familiar with. If anything, it was prompting her womanly know-how.

EDIT:

Hell, I thought I was making my subject ignorance quite clear, almost humorously so. I figured it would be funny to see a subject-ignorant guy take a jab at random female-centered knowledge.
Like "Oh, silly boy, you can't wear red shoes with a green dress" or some other shit I wouldn't fucking know.

EDIT 2: Stab* Not Jab

Jab makes it seem like I was somehow contrary to someone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 20, 2016, 10:09:04 pm
Please don't tell me you're telling a woman who has breasts how a push-up bra works.

God no. Wtf.

Speaking as a misanthrope with a taste for carnage, this disappoints me.  Like this --->   :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 20, 2016, 10:17:07 pm
I wanted to own a bar for such a long time. A bar where there are no TVs, old country music overhead, and maybe very small, a bar and a row of tables behind it. Very, very soft, cushy stools. The Soft Stool.

Then I realized I hate being around drunk people when I'm not and sometimes when I am.

Bars without TV are the best kind of bars, and sorely needed around here. The Beech, the Free House, and the Red Fox are all TV-less, but that's what, three bars out of the 150 or so that are local to us?


I know it's a bit of a jaunt from where you are but I'm pretty sure I don't remember the Slingshot Lounge having TVs. Almost positive, because that was my go-to watering hole UNLESS I was trying to watch a sports on TV, then I had to go to Tom's.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 20, 2016, 10:23:07 pm
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on March 20, 2016, 10:37:29 pm
Please don't tell me you're telling a woman who has breasts how a push-up bra works.

God no. Wtf.

Speaking as a misanthrope with a taste for carnage, this disappoints me.  Like this --->   :sad:

I mean, I can embody my Holy Name™ and generate tears and shit stains, but I thought we were trying to avoid that shit? If you want egotistical troll personalities who start shit with subtle condescension, I can set up new accounts, but only as long as we promise to be spags for the cause when the [dried-shit powder] settles.

We can get angry, and we can break stuff. But I don't want to actually cause real problems. I like this place, and I like its alternative opinions. I like the alternative perspectives, and I like the creativity. And I want to be able to come back here when I want.

But most of all, I LOVE the people here. We might disagree on some things politically and sterf, but that's fine with me.



Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

Congratulations! My Girlfriend's recent nephew was about the same size.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 20, 2016, 10:52:56 pm
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

YAY!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2016, 10:53:11 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.

It's not hard to find pretty bras in my size; Natori, Curvy Kate, and Freya all make very nice bras. It's just hard to find pretty push-up bras in my size because apparently most manufacturers assume that if our cups runneth over, we're never going to want to accentuate them.

Right?!  It's like they're all, "Oh, they're tits are probably pretty droopy and always have been cuz they're so big, they're probably used to it and we don't need to make pushup bras that size."

Also, I've never heard of those brands.  I'm going to check them out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 20, 2016, 11:10:29 pm
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

Congratulations man, welcome to the new addition to your family.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2016, 11:14:05 pm
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

MORE CONGRATULATIONS! :D
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 21, 2016, 02:07:27 am
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

Congratulations man, welcome to the new addition to your family.

YES YES AWESOME DOUBLEPLUS YES.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2016, 02:19:23 am
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

Congratulations, man!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 21, 2016, 02:24:03 am
Oh, and our beautiful healthy baby girl was born Friday morning. 6lbs 12oz, 19 inches long, fortunate to mostly look like her mother.

Hooray!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 21, 2016, 06:53:36 am
Congrats ECH!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on March 21, 2016, 12:02:26 pm
Good Stuff ECH. Do a good job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2016, 07:36:20 pm
Congratulations ECH!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on March 21, 2016, 11:32:49 pm
ECH - tip of the hat and congrats!


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On the home front, my computers are becoming unable to deal with all this fritzy HTML5 and whathaveyou.  That would have been acceptable, however, they're also all constantly crashing and requiring deep ram resets that have me dis/reassembling the machines multiple times for them to even respond, at all, to a hard boot.  I may fade away slightly as I tear them apart to figure some kind of solution.  Currently force-feeding them a few megabytes, I dunno.  Stupid computers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 22, 2016, 04:59:55 am
Parenthood is already hilarious.

I could FEEL all the testosterone drain from my body. All I want to do is lay on the couch with a baby on my bare belly and watch old disney animated movies or nature specials narrated by David Attenborough. I find myself suddenly enjoying classical music. I've been eating lots of salad.

I can't wait to see how my newfound mental state confuses my coworkers.

I also definitely need to work on getting out of the restaurant business for real this time. I know I'll probably have to suck it up for another 6 months to a year but it's definitely time to find something less stressful and less "this job will swallow your life whole". I find myself suddenly and starkly unwilling to devote that much of my time and energy to anything that isn't my family.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: rong on March 22, 2016, 07:31:40 pm
sweet sweet caysh (https://www.facebook.com/RepresentUs/videos/1313577795322755/)
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Post by: LuciferX on March 22, 2016, 08:22:53 pm
I got to read that page for 10 secs before browser crash, seemed like healthy fun ;)

ECH:  Looking glorious!  (please to remember adding deh protein to der leafy greens = moar energy?)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 22, 2016, 09:42:40 pm


I mean, I can embody my Holy Name™ and generate tears and shit stains, but I thought we were trying to avoid that shit?

It's a nostalgia thing, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2016, 09:58:28 pm
Parenthood is already hilarious.

I could FEEL all the testosterone drain from my body. All I want to do is lay on the couch with a baby on my bare belly and watch old disney animated movies or nature specials narrated by David Attenborough. I find myself suddenly enjoying classical music. I've been eating lots of salad.

I can't wait to see how my newfound mental state confuses my coworkers.

I also definitely need to work on getting out of the restaurant business for real this time. I know I'll probably have to suck it up for another 6 months to a year but it's definitely time to find something less stressful and less "this job will swallow your life whole". I find myself suddenly and starkly unwilling to devote that much of my time and energy to anything that isn't my family.

Yep, you nailed it; your prolactin levels are skyrocketing and your testosterone levels are falling in response as your body prepares you for papahood. It's awesome! It's amazing to me that for such a long time medical science assumed that only women have hormonal changes in response to becoming parents, when dads also have all these shifts that prepare them for nurturing and parental protection (prolactin also mediates protective behavior).

Family is so great. I'm glad you're enjoying yours. :)

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2016, 10:03:10 pm
I wanted to own a bar for such a long time. A bar where there are no TVs, old country music overhead, and maybe very small, a bar and a row of tables behind it. Very, very soft, cushy stools. The Soft Stool.

Then I realized I hate being around drunk people when I'm not and sometimes when I am.

Bars without TV are the best kind of bars, and sorely needed around here. The Beech, the Free House, and the Red Fox are all TV-less, but that's what, three bars out of the 150 or so that are local to us?


I know it's a bit of a jaunt from where you are but I'm pretty sure I don't remember the Slingshot Lounge having TVs. Almost positive, because that was my go-to watering hole UNLESS I was trying to watch a sports on TV, then I had to go to Tom's.

The Slingshot is great, although way out of stumbling range. I think you're right about there not being TVs there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2016, 10:05:07 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.

It's not hard to find pretty bras in my size; Natori, Curvy Kate, and Freya all make very nice bras. It's just hard to find pretty push-up bras in my size because apparently most manufacturers assume that if our cups runneth over, we're never going to want to accentuate them.

I gotchya. I'm quite sure it was a push-up, but I'll find out for certain. I may have been unclear because I was speaking on the basis that specifically mentioned bras we were talking about were push-up.

Also, if it's not technically a push-up, they used a technique other than extra lower padding to... uhh... accentuate them. Her girls are definitely more accentuated in this bra than in her others.

Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, and she simply got a DD bra instead and put it on the biggest clip setting, pushin' 'em up and out the lazy consumer way.

Also heard of the toilet paper trick (Am I remembering shit from romantic comedies now? FUCK).

Push up bras may be padded or not padded; they're just sewn so as to push the breasts up and together so you get cleavage.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 22, 2016, 10:06:27 pm
The girlfriend complained of the same thing a lot, Nigel. Pretty sure Choppa's suggestion was mentioned at some point in conversation shortly before the issue was resolved.


Yeah, but have you seen their styles this year? <shudder> Neon yellow and pink... WTF.

Unfortunately (or fortunately), not all of their styles come in DD, either, so I was weeding through fugly after fugly hoping for a hit on the non-fugly. I may yet find something good, but I actually prefer more upscale brands like Freya.

Yeah, that sounds uber bad. She's got one that's dark blue (Navy? Idk, I'm a dude.) with white polka dots and some lacy stuff on it. Looks pretty damn good. I'll get some info on the brand, etc. later and get back to yuh. She's a DDD and has mostly bad looking bras, but does have some pretty damn good ones. She usually doesn't have too much trouble finding the good ones, though.

It's not hard to find pretty bras in my size; Natori, Curvy Kate, and Freya all make very nice bras. It's just hard to find pretty push-up bras in my size because apparently most manufacturers assume that if our cups runneth over, we're never going to want to accentuate them.

Right?!  It's like they're all, "Oh, they're tits are probably pretty droopy and always have been cuz they're so big, they're probably used to it and we don't need to make pushup bras that size."

Also, I've never heard of those brands.  I'm going to check them out.

Amazon has really good deals on them sometimes. And they're super pretty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 23, 2016, 08:48:19 pm
I am going to complain about this here because I can't complain about it anywhere else because it makes me sound ungrateful and might hurt people's feelings.

I have one friend who texts me every day to ask "How are you doing today?". Several others text me every few days with the same question. The net result is that not a single day goes by without having to answer that question at least twice.

The problem is that the answer is never going to be "OK" or "good", and every time they ask, I think about it, and if I was doing kind of OK somehow, it pulls me out of OK and sends me back to bad. If I'm not in an OK space I can't really answer honestly. These people are not equipped for that. Most therapists aren't equipped for it. I don't mind them checking in but I want them to stop asking me how I'm doing. I want to stop having to carefully formulate answers that don't include how many hours I have been thinking about things they don't want to hear about.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on March 23, 2016, 09:22:22 pm
At the risk of hurting feelings, I think it's fair to say that your's may have priority.  You are right, they are probably not equipped, which should come as no surprise to them.  If you did not feel like communicating this to people, that should be more than understandable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 24, 2016, 09:17:51 am
There's always an awkwardness dealing with someone's grief for me. Maybe for a lot of people. Having been a griever on occasion, I'm not sure anything anyone said would have helped but it didn't stop them trying. I don't remember anyone saying anything that made me feel worse, I mean I've hit bottom, right? Nowhere left to go from there. At least I knew those people cared, even if I didn't care if they did, right then.

You're right, tho. The constant "How you holding up?" shit gets old fast. Especially when I realize that I'd just managed to think about something else for the first time in days and now I'm right back there, with a side order of guilt cos I forgot for a second but then the triggers aren't limited to just people asking how I am. In the grand scheme of things they're a drop in the ocean.

Anyone who takes the hump cos you're -something out of character- with them at a time like this, doesn't really deserve much in the way of consideration IMO.
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Post by: Junkenstein on March 24, 2016, 11:36:43 am
Pretty much that. It's probably coming from a well intentioned place but I doubt that they have any idea how to help beyond "being there". It may be a little smothering, but I assure you the alternative (No-one calling, generally giving a shit) is far worse.

The good thing here is that people care, they're just hut and confused too so it's not being expressed very well.



In other news, I have news. Unfortunately, I am waiting on details that won't exist until the end of the month at the earliest. Those details determine whether said news is very good or horribly bad. I have literally no better option than "Hurry up and wait".

Schrodinger's news.
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Post by: Freeky on March 24, 2016, 10:12:48 pm
That's the worst kind of news, at least until you know whether the news is good or very very bad.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2016, 12:43:05 am

In other news, I have news. Unfortunately, I am waiting on details that won't exist until the end of the month at the earliest. Those details determine whether said news is very good or horribly bad. I have literally no better option than "Hurry up and wait".

Schrodinger's news.

The part they never tell you about Schrodinger's Cat is that sometimes there's more than one box and sometimes there's more than one cat.  And maybe there's more boxes that cats.  Maybe.  Unless there isn't.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2016, 01:52:42 am
Interesting note:

All of the mosaic-capable telescopes, when not working a tasked project, are now doing a globular search with a radius of 30,000 light years, specifically looking for exoplanets in the habitable zones.  Planets judged to be outside of habitable zones are noted and filed, but not really examined.

It's worth noting that the DOE and NASA are spending a lot of money to do this.

The following is absolute speculation, and nothing but:

1.  The magickle get-you-there drive that NASA isn't talking about much these days may be a thing, and
2.  Someone feels a burning need to find exoplanets.

It's worth noting that there is no reason the hypothetical NASA drive has to reach orbit - or even take off - before starting its thing.  what this means is that carried mass is much less of a concern.
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Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 25, 2016, 08:15:09 am
Interesting note:

All of the mosaic-capable telescopes, when not working a tasked project, are now doing a globular search with a radius of 30,000 light years, specifically looking for exoplanets in the habitable zones.  Planets judged to be outside of habitable zones are noted and filed, but not really examined.

It's worth noting that the DOE and NASA are spending a lot of money to do this.

The following is absolute speculation, and nothing but:

1.  The magickle get-you-there drive that NASA isn't talking about much these days may be a thing, and
2.  Someone feels a burning need to find exoplanets.

It's worth noting that there is no reason the hypothetical NASA drive has to reach orbit - or even take off - before starting its thing.  what this means is that carried mass is much less of a concern.

That's interesting. I guess someone at NASA figures we're gonna need another planet to fuck up soon.

In other news I have the flu. Just in time for Easter.
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Post by: LMNO on March 25, 2016, 12:24:57 pm
Sign me up to leave Planet Trump TM.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2016, 05:00:24 pm
Sign me up to leave Planet Trump TM.

I don't think you and I would be eligible.   :lulz:
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Post by: LMNO on March 25, 2016, 05:21:52 pm
Motherfucker.
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Post by: Hoopla! on March 25, 2016, 05:25:39 pm
Sign me up to leave Planet Trump TM.

I don't think you and I would be eligible.   :lulz:

Now the Illuminati makes a lot more sense. They're not trying to rule THIS world at all.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2016, 06:05:20 pm
Sign me up to leave Planet Trump TM.

I don't think you and I would be eligible.   :lulz:

Now the Illuminati makes a lot more sense. They're not trying to rule THIS world at all.

 :lulz:

Like I said, the above was absolute speculation.
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Post by: Sung Low on March 26, 2016, 12:19:54 am
Well, I took the long road, but I think I've broken the back of this city. There's still the occasional spasm, but I should be able to get some peace now.
I'm going to try and write up a piece about it later but for now I just want to say, I'm glad that you guys are alive on this planet.
 

 
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2016, 12:30:47 am
Thanks for the words of support, guys.

The last couple of days have been mostly not too bad, in the "OK, if it's going to be like this I can probably live through it" way. It was not so much like that for a while.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2016, 12:37:23 am
ON A 100% DIFFERENT NOTE

I went to my online banking to pay my mortgage this morning, and found to my GREAT surprise that I had full and total access to and control over all of my ex-husband's accounts with that fine institution. Now, keep in mind that we separated in 2008, divorced in 2010, and have only ever had two joint accounts there: a home equity line of credit, and a shared savings account. The home equity line of credit has been closed for years, and we went in together and separated our accounts no less than 7 years ago.

They just got new software, and through some kind of glitch, apparently the new software thinks that I own all his accounts. The first person I talked to tried to claim it was my fault for not removing him from my accounts (he's not on any of my accounts), the second person I talked to said that it was a glitch and asked me if I was sure whether he also had access to MY accounts because "in most cases only one person has access to the other person's accounts" (was that supposed to make it better?) and the third person looked spooked and told me I should write a letter to the branch manager "so they'll take it seriously". All of this just heightened my desire to get all of my money out of there ASAP, which I did.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2016, 12:39:25 am
Oh and they also told him that he never removed me from his accounts.



I was never on his accounts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2016, 12:40:50 am
I sometimes think my bank is annoying because of how overly zealous they are with security measures and blocking access if they think your details may have been compromised.

Then I hear horror stories like this and I think "no, my bank's pretty good."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2016, 12:46:05 am
I sometimes think my bank is annoying because of how overly zealous they are with security measures and blocking access if they think your details may have been compromised.

Then I hear horror stories like this and I think "no, my bank's pretty good."

Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Also, my bank has fucked up so many times that it's almost like an abusive relationship that makes you scratch your head and wonder why I stayed for so long.
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Post by: Freeky on March 26, 2016, 12:59:34 am
Good luck with your future banking!  That sounds horrormirthy.  Or maybe ragemirthy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2016, 01:16:24 am
So, my assassin character in Requiem just one-shot one of the most powerful characters in the game.

See this bastard:

(http://i.imgur.com/VWKPQ2r.jpg?1)

This is Lokil.  In ordinary, unmodded Skyrim, Lokil is about as difficult as any other vampire to kill, which is to say, not difficult at all.  A couple of hits from a smithed silver blade will take him down, no problems.

Requiem, of course, changes this.  Because the Dawnguard questline, for whom Lokil is a starting boss, is considered high level quest material, Lokil is instead a level 80 battlemage decked out in enchanted ebony armour, meaning he looks more like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/papNoh9.jpg?1)

Because this is Requiem, this adds in additional problems.  Ebony armour has huge bonuses to defending against arrows.  Undead are immune to poison, so put them daggers away.  As a battlemage, he has a massive magicka pool, so he's mostly immune to illusion too.  His armour has fire resist enchants, one of the key weaknesses of a vampire.  Up close he wields an ebony mace (in other words, he will tear through your armour) and he casts Frost Cloak at the start of combat, so say goodbye to your stamina, and your ability to move.  Restoration can still take him out, dual casting sunfire at him does have an appropriate effect, but eh, restoration.  Lokil is a notorious check on character progress, and as you can see from this video (https://youtu.be/4GFZdkGHM-w?list=PLai4iMIISmH9c_HcNz8vWXIVIb2B5wUkH&t=479), even skilled barbarians have problems taking him out.

Assassin type characters, especially assassin archers, are generally considered the weakest build in the late game.

Turns out though if you shoot him in the head with three exploding dragonbone arrows of fire, from a fully tempered ebony bow, with full perks in sneak and archery, he dies pretty hard.  As does everything else around him, since these are basically fireballs attached to an arrow.  In the face.  Repeatedly.

I can only conclude everyone who played an assassin before me is retarded, as I'm kicking ass in the late game. 
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Post by: Junkenstein on March 26, 2016, 05:45:05 am
Reminds me of an old favourite tactic from the Baldurs gate days - Everyone with bows and arrows of bombardment. Literally unlimited fireballs to the face turning every encounter in the game into a joke given that most things died to 1 and even tough bosses topped out at 3 or so with a couple of plot exceptions. When in doubt, fireballs. If still in doubt, more fireballs.

The days when an RPG can correctly show the effects of scorched earth warfare will be amusing.



What was giving the other guy so much trouble? 2h combat in skyrim was fairly simplistic but pretty effective. Requiem tweak?
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Post by: Faust on March 26, 2016, 09:56:35 am
It's really hard not to give a snarky summary of Batman V's superman. I mean its juvenile escapism, like most super hero movies, but it’s also really dour.
The first Hundred hours or so aren't great, but those last 10 minutes with Wonder Woman are quite good.
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Post by: Cain on March 26, 2016, 12:02:19 pm
Reminds me of an old favourite tactic from the Baldurs gate days - Everyone with bows and arrows of bombardment. Literally unlimited fireballs to the face turning every encounter in the game into a joke given that most things died to 1 and even tough bosses topped out at 3 or so with a couple of plot exceptions. When in doubt, fireballs. If still in doubt, more fireballs.

The days when an RPG can correctly show the effects of scorched earth warfare will be amusing.



What was giving the other guy so much trouble? 2h combat in skyrim was fairly simplistic but pretty effective. Requiem tweak?

Yeah, I did exactly the same.  Focus fire is a hell of a drug.

Requiem has a lot of combat tweaks, so it's hard to say.  Barbarian is a high risk, high gain kind of playstyle.  You either roflstomp the enemy, or they roflstomp you.  Another factor may have been using swords against heavy armour - no penetration bonus, if you don't specialize into greatswords (he was specializing into warhammers).  Up close combat with Lokil is a death sentence, even with Nord frost resistances, and especially also in evasion armour.  Dawnbreaker on a Nord, with a potion of Frost Resist, and Magic Resist, and in heavy armour, with a shield, would be more effective (Daedric weapons = 50% AP before any other bonuses apply, also counts as silver, also does 50 fire damage per strike, with the possibility of a +2500 fire damage attack). 2H is a lot slower in Requiem too, due to the Mass Effect system - weapon and armor weight actually matter, and there is a very noticeable difference in speed tiers between bladed, axe and blunt weapons.  That tradeoff is balanced not only by higher overall damage, but also AP bonuses, hence why Lokil can OHK with his own mace.

But then people also told me Dragon Priests would be hard with the same character type, and I strolled up to one, with Dawnbreaker in one hand, Goldbrand in the other, chugged a "resist everything" potion (snowberries + mudcrab chitin + purple flowers give you all elemental resistances), a resist magic potion, a potion of ably fighting (+40% 1h damage) and used the Shadow Shield illusion spell to up my attack rate.  Oh, and become ethereal shout to close the gap without being hit.  3 dual power attacks and there was a dead dragon priest.

I just think people think they can sit in the shadows with an untempered, mid tier bow (Nightingale at best) and steel tier arrows, and sneak attack everything and crush the game, like they did in vanilla.  Nope, you need to do some enchanting and smithing before that becomes the case.  The tools are there...you just have to figure them out.  Daedra hearts for poisons make dragons a joke...ebony+ tier arrows with shock enchants make automatons a joke.  Dawnbreaker makes undead a joke.  There you go, 90% of the late game, solved.
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Post by: Cain on March 26, 2016, 12:03:34 pm
It's really hard not to give a snarky summary of Batman V's superman. I mean its juvenile escapism, like most super hero movies, but it’s also really dour.
The first Hundred hours or so aren't great, but those last 10 minutes with Wonder Woman are quite good.

That seems to be pretty much everyone's impressions.  It's a long trainwreck of a film without much in the way of redeeming plot or even exciting visuals, then Wonder Woman makes it less insufferable, then it ends.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 26, 2016, 01:04:17 pm
It's really hard not to give a snarky summary of Batman V's superman. I mean its juvenile escapism, like most super hero movies, but it’s also really dour.
The first Hundred hours or so aren't great, but those last 10 minutes with Wonder Woman are quite good.

What I don't get about the whole thing is why everyone is stringing up Ben Affleck when it's Zach Snyder that's been churning out soulless stylized crap movie after movie for the better part of a decade.
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Post by: Faust on March 26, 2016, 01:20:49 pm
That seems to be pretty much everyone's impressions.  It's a long trainwreck of a film without much in the way of redeeming plot or even exciting visuals, then Wonder Woman makes it less insufferable, then it ends.
Yes, that’s it exactly.
What I don't get about the whole thing is why everyone is stringing up Ben Affleck when it's Zach Snyder that's been churning out soulless stylized crap movie after movie for the better part of a decade.

Yeah, a bad characterisation of batman would still have been some kind of characterisation, the characters themselves are simply absent from the film, the actors did what they could with a soulless story and boring dialog. I still like the idea of Ben Affleck as batman, because this film doesn't actually give anything of note to do that you could judge the performance on.
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Post by: Freeky on March 27, 2016, 03:39:13 am
I have two weeks to make sure 1850 pts of Orks are table quality painted and wysiwyg built. 

I have maybe 350 pts that are the above, and the rest is bits.

FUCK.
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Post by: Faust on March 27, 2016, 09:05:43 am
The painting is the most fun part. But yeah 1850pt army is going to feel like Malasian wallet factory work doing them in that timeline.
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Post by: Freeky on March 27, 2016, 06:10:38 pm
My favorite part is conversion.  I have a whole unit of bikes that are converted Deffkoptas, and a couple converted from Fantasy's Empire dudes where they're riding the horses. 
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Post by: Cain on March 27, 2016, 06:12:32 pm
Lokil confirmed scrub tier: now with video evidence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KYdEnkMITY&feature=youtu.be).  Includes graphic scenes of dead scrub vampires being teabagged.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on March 27, 2016, 06:17:24 pm
Lokil confirmed scrub tier: now with video evidence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KYdEnkMITY&feature=youtu.be).  Includes graphic scenes of dead scrub vampires being teabagged.

 :lulz:  Well that seemed easy enough.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 27, 2016, 06:18:07 pm
Solitary doesn't work if it's 2 to cell.


http://www.npr.org/2016/03/24/470824303/doubling-up-prisoners-in-solitary-creates-deadly-consequences?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
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Post by: Cain on March 27, 2016, 06:23:01 pm
One would think that rather defeats the point of solitary confinement, no?
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 27, 2016, 06:31:37 pm
One would think that rather defeats the point of solitary confinement, no?

I think they're trying to create tiers of woe, if you'll pardon the expression.

Creating a Darwinian hell level to create the perfect monster.  2 men go in, one comes out.

Sort of like the goldfish experiment I posted back in 2003.
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Post by: Cain on March 27, 2016, 06:44:01 pm
Yeah, we've done similar over here.

I think possibly the best example was when we started putting Asian men convincted of petty, non-violent, first time criminal offences in the same cells as actually convincted racist/Neo-Nazi killers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2016, 11:11:24 pm
High winds on the mountain today.  60 MPH, with gusts up to 95 MPH.

It's a festival.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on March 29, 2016, 12:12:29 pm
One would think that rather defeats the point of solitary confinement, no?

I think they're trying to create tiers of woe, if you'll pardon the expression.

Creating a Darwinian hell level to create the perfect monster.  2 men go in, one comes out.

Sort of like the goldfish experiment I posted back in 2003.

My only surprise is that this shit hasn't been turned into a TV show.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 29, 2016, 03:12:25 pm
Been playing around with css, trying to make the metal gear codec without images or javascript

http://radiocodac.azurewebsites.net/ptt
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cramulus on March 29, 2016, 03:55:05 pm
What's up, cats? I was just going through my archives and bumped into the video I took at the 2008 Day of Discord meatup in Rhode Island. Wow, what a bunch of spags! Got me thinkin about this place. I wanted to swing by and check in - see how everybody's doing. It's weird how this bizarre blend of community and personal spirituality sticks with you. I could use a shot of crazy - the good kind - in my life.

Stuff's good over here with me. I'm working in Manhattan now, which is stupid, but it's a living. Living with my girlfriend in Sleepy Hollow, the most haunted town in America and possibly the solar system.

I signed up to be the GM of this larp in Connecticut. That pretty much consumed my life for about 2 years. It was exhilarating but ultimately very draining and frustrating. At the end of the last season I stepped down as GM, and am now about to embark as a regular NPC. Which is gonna be hard, as the game is probably in its death spiral--hard to watch stuff you love go to shit. But you also can't fight destiny. If it's gonna die, it's gonna die.

Occasionally I like to go through old journals. My active membership at PD represents a time of transition for me - moving from a hippy dippy magical headspace into the more straight-faced conventional world of the suck-ass adult commuter. As much as I cringe at the past me, I can't help but feel I lost some vitality and spontaneity since then. So partly out of nostalgia, partly out of aspiration, partly 'cause I miss the fuck out of you cats, greetings and beatings. have some sauce.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QNtn2bCnUA8r0jWexDYxobuGhC5DJGhsEx7ZWbgtLwXFoXtJzdye3eHqocCuO7Y56bMBkuRzniV0u2wbaDw7zDYzyNYO14NkLCsaVV4yGQZgX_65kqhRL-nZZnC-mv7N7iHiNz54a1WgDRRygTmvFoVHqszgurMbYVLvT08rncqoDvEV4UP6IgbrI5qJqxirjnN1SphyASA1ggRcPqjj_YGeTw1Bao1KKpFv06KoGWy7MxLZs4pY03FSha_I5QbGvkQBC8Kj0NFJdtjZdoPKeRU3Ky9sjTmvv2QT4jBrCNcccNU3LuKuwIena0Z-0rdze74uA_xzqMUbtl4IEAmzhyIPZwmPUMxrRFMc-xjGfiA__NvkWJ2r7_mbuv-NCj77MaFPVyzUerW42WGfiNyG-szIyBgCYpZqvfW-B4Sql8OEQa6pAmWMNrJ0ItMO0Hht5SFtaFecqc2WhHpkXIoSYiYEFDto5dO09mO0wPSJ-NqRmaD_rXbiEnGd_kqqGaDyABCL2rAOKTfQQVxY1bbjhJn2f6LoDeDDx5ZLKvy1x5URl4agellVMkK6g6PyJCjCQLoxwA=w298-h529-no)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on March 29, 2016, 04:01:49 pm
Shit! It's Cram!

Hide the turps and get the cage!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2016, 04:31:55 pm
What's up, cats? I was just going through my archives and bumped into the video I took at the 2008 Day of Discord meatup in Rhode Island. Wow, what a bunch of spags! Got me thinkin about this place. I wanted to swing by and check in - see how everybody's doing. It's weird how this bizarre blend of community and personal spirituality sticks with you. I could use a shot of crazy - the good kind - in my life.

Stuff's good over here with me. I'm working in Manhattan now, which is stupid, but it's a living. Living with my girlfriend in Sleepy Hollow, the most haunted town in America and possibly the solar system.

I signed up to be the GM of this larp in Connecticut. That pretty much consumed my life for about 2 years. It was exhilarating but ultimately very draining and frustrating. At the end of the last season I stepped down as GM, and am now about to embark as a regular NPC. Which is gonna be hard, as the game is probably in its death spiral--hard to watch stuff you love go to shit. But you also can't fight destiny. If it's gonna die, it's gonna die.

Occasionally I like to go through old journals. My active membership at PD represents a time of transition for me - moving from a hippy dippy magical headspace into the more straight-faced conventional world of the suck-ass adult commuter. As much as I cringe at the past me, I can't help but feel I lost some vitality and spontaneity since then. So partly out of nostalgia, partly out of aspiration, partly 'cause I miss the fuck out of you cats, greetings and beatings. have some sauce.


sup, Cram.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cramulus on March 29, 2016, 04:36:44 pm
By the way Rog, you look great with hair. I didn't know you had that capability--I figured all your follicles had been scoured off by scalpal volanic activity by now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2016, 04:42:01 pm
By the way Rog, you look great with hair. I didn't know you had that capability--I figured all your follicles had been scoured off by scalpal volanic activity by now.

Thanks.  It's a brain fungus thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 29, 2016, 04:43:17 pm
Heya Cram, good to see you here.

I think my father has a bottle of that hot sauce.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on March 29, 2016, 05:40:59 pm
Hi Cram, welcome back.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 29, 2016, 06:54:26 pm
Been awake 31 hours.  Trying to reset my sleeping times to something approaching normal, as opposed to sometime between 4-6am that has been happening this week.

So looking forward to the day I can quit this job.  Not long now...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 29, 2016, 06:58:20 pm
Cram!

There's another cookie delivery happening sometime in the next month or so, you should get in on that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cramulus on March 29, 2016, 08:18:48 pm
There's a WHAT
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2016, 08:37:37 pm
There's a WHAT

DEATH COOKIES
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 29, 2016, 11:00:32 pm
There's a WHAT

DEATH COOKIES

NOBODY DIED LAST TIME.

Anyway, even that one time the guy only got shot at. Completely different.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2016, 01:31:23 am
My cousin Rob, the son of Bill (the hardcase world war 2 vet), whom I remember as a leather-jacketed teenag hot-rodder who always had time for his 11 year old nerd cousin, died today from a heart attack.  He was 52.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 30, 2016, 02:55:13 am
Aw, shit. Sorry, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2016, 02:55:39 am
Aw, shit. Sorry, man.

Thank you.  This has not been a very good year for anyone, I think.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 30, 2016, 11:05:13 am
Sorry about your cousin, Roger.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 30, 2016, 05:28:45 pm
Condolences, man. We're getting to that age where any conversation with someone we haven't seen for six months begins with a role call of friends who've died since we last saw each other. I used to overhear the old guys doing this in the street and it struck me as depressing. Now I look in the mirror and one of those old guys is staring back at me and it's twice as depressing.

Show me the god that decided the best place for me was a rapidly decaying monkey and I'll happily stab him in the face, til he's praying to himself for mercy.  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2016, 05:31:15 pm
Thanks, guys.  I wasn't close to him, except for that 36 year old memory.  Still.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 30, 2016, 08:17:12 pm
Thanks, guys.  I wasn't close to him, except for that 36 year old memory.  Still.

I've lost an aunt I barely knew as well this last month. It was weird because though family it barely registered against the din of tragic death from here and elsewhere. All I can really say is I plan to move back to my hometown in a couple months to spend more time with my dad and bros because these last couple months have caused a serious shift in my priorities.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2016, 09:18:23 pm
It's 50 fucking degrees outside and I'm in a blizzard.  An honest to god blizzard and I am comfortable in a lightweight hoodie.

Mountains are weird.  I don't pretend to understand them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 30, 2016, 10:13:48 pm
It's 50 fucking degrees outside and I'm in a blizzard.  An honest to god blizzard and I am comfortable in a lightweight hoodie.

Mountains are weird.  I don't pretend to understand them.

In the Holy words of the great R.J. Dio:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxOPvLg7o0
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 30, 2016, 10:22:52 pm
It's 50 fucking degrees outside and I'm in a blizzard.  An honest to god blizzard and I am comfortable in a lightweight hoodie.

Mountains are weird.  I don't pretend to understand them.

You know what I don't understand?  How this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIrDthcTjYM&feature=youtu.be) got back up the mountain.

Plz explain mountain magic, Roger.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2016, 10:25:04 pm
It's 50 fucking degrees outside and I'm in a blizzard.  An honest to god blizzard and I am comfortable in a lightweight hoodie.

Mountains are weird.  I don't pretend to understand them.

You know what I don't understand?  How this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIrDthcTjYM&feature=youtu.be) got back up the mountain.

Plz explain mountain magic, Roger.

I can't.  It is mysterious and terrifying, and not for the likes of you and I to understand.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2016, 01:42:46 am
Can someone let me know when PD stabilizes?  It's plonked on me 3 times, trying to write the same post.  The rest of my interbutts are functioning normally.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2016, 03:27:44 am
Well, the first week of the term is, as always, a stressful shitshow. Complicated by the fact that my mind is more often than  not clouded by grief.

But I'm gonna make some GMOs, so at least there's something to look forward to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on March 31, 2016, 08:32:27 am
Can someone let me know when PD stabilizes?  It's plonked on me 3 times, trying to write the same post.  The rest of my interbutts are functioning normally.

Forum should be ok, we're not showing any errors from last night. Its possible that it's a DNS error which would explain some sites working and others not.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2016, 01:09:01 pm
I've not had any problems...except actually connecting to my internet this morning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 31, 2016, 04:31:22 pm
I just bought tickets to a Copa America match where I will make good on the once-in-a-lifetime chance to see Lionel Messi destroy the competition live and in person. Good seats, too. It was horribly irresponsible of me in a financial sense but you can't put a price on being able to tell your kid "yeah, you don't remember but you saw him play once" about someone like that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 31, 2016, 04:37:28 pm
Also, I randomly ran into an old buddy a few days ago. Not ordinarily noteworthy, but the last time I saw this particular friend was in the Bahamas at AUTEC where he worked when I was working on the ship so it was one of those small world coincidences that your mind tells you feels like fate.

And my mind was right, because he's offered to get me in with Dunlap in a few months when the GF and I have a routine down with the baby and she feels comfortable handling things on her own for a month at a time. It'd at least double my income and more importantly I would fucking love the job. Ocean tugs running between the west coast, Alaska, and Hawaii. Unlimited food budget. Great union with great benefits. Small crew. And and extra $20/hr on top of my day rate for any time I have to spend helping to load/unload cargo when we're in port. I'm trying not to be too over the moon about it until I actually have my TWIC card in hand and am headed to the union hall but I'm really fucking stoked.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2016, 04:53:45 pm
Also, I randomly ran into an old buddy a few days ago. Not ordinarily noteworthy, but the last time I saw this particular friend was in the Bahamas at AUTEC where he worked when I was working on the ship so it was one of those small world coincidences that your mind tells you feels like fate.

And my mind was right, because he's offered to get me in with Dunlap in a few months when the GF and I have a routine down with the baby and she feels comfortable handling things on her own for a month at a time. It'd at least double my income and more importantly I would fucking love the job. Ocean tugs running between the west coast, Alaska, and Hawaii. Unlimited food budget. Great union with great benefits. Small crew. And and extra $20/hr on top of my day rate for any time I have to spend helping to load/unload cargo when we're in port. I'm trying not to be too over the moon about it until I actually have my TWIC card in hand and am headed to the union hall but I'm really fucking stoked.

Good on ya!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 31, 2016, 05:31:34 pm
Also also, it's finally my weekend after 8 brutal days in a row including the hardest day I've spent in a restaurant since the time I tore my rotator cuff on friday of July 4th weekend and had to work one-armed until sunday. And it's going to be 70 degrees and sunny today and tomorrow. Today, we buy a baby carrier and a stroller and test them out with a walk to the little secret beach down by the end of the Port of Everett property. Tomorrow, if all works well, we take Joey for her first real excursion, probably to Lake Goodwin where I might even get stupid enough to go in the water.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on March 31, 2016, 07:42:10 pm
Welcome to the New Normal.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2016, 09:45:46 pm
It's snowing again.  My feet are cold.  This is BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 01, 2016, 03:37:00 am
Also also, it's finally my weekend after 8 brutal days in a row including the hardest day I've spent in a restaurant since the time I tore my rotator cuff on friday of July 4th weekend and had to work one-armed until sunday. And it's going to be 70 degrees and sunny today and tomorrow. Today, we buy a baby carrier and a stroller and test them out with a walk to the little secret beach down by the end of the Port of Everett property. Tomorrow, if all works well, we take Joey for her first real excursion, probably to Lake Goodwin where I might even get stupid enough to go in the water.

Awww. :) Those first outings are so sweet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on April 01, 2016, 09:51:32 pm
Does anyone remember, circa '09, if there was a connection between PD and a particular news show host's decision to shave their head?  It's spring cleaning time for my mind (feel free not to dispel my illusions if I may still have use for them).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2016, 10:09:46 pm
Does anyone remember, circa '09, if there was a connection between PD and a particular news show host's decision to shave their head?  It's spring cleaning time for my mind (feel free not to dispel my illusions if I may still have use for them).

No, you're thinking of Britney Spears
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on April 02, 2016, 12:21:49 am
Right on, it's all starting to make sense again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on April 02, 2016, 01:22:07 am
Whelp, true to form, been too long with the same manager so they decided I needed a new one.  #7 now.  This time not in the building, so I'm extra easy to get rid of when "resource actions" hit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 02, 2016, 02:46:23 am
Whelp, true to form, been too long with the same manager so they decided I needed a new one.  #7 now.  This time not in the building, so I'm extra easy to get rid of when "resource actions" hit.

I don't understand your workplace.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on April 02, 2016, 05:23:11 am
Whelp, true to form, been too long with the same manager so they decided I needed a new one.  #7 now.  This time not in the building, so I'm extra easy to get rid of when "resource actions" hit.

I don't understand your workplace.

It's trying hard to be a place of sales people selling things that make themselves and services provided by nobody.  Now, it also makes software that can do most of that, but that part of the company doesn't talk to my part.  If it did I wouldn't have a job anyway and the company would make much more sense.


It also thinks all problems with clients can be fixed by shuffling personnel resources around to different managers. 

 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 03, 2016, 01:46:08 am
If anyone's available to proofread 94 pages of nonsense...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on April 03, 2016, 03:50:09 pm
If anyone's available to proofread 94 pages of nonsense...

I can do some if you like. Probably don't have the time for all 94 if you want it on some kind of timescale. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 03, 2016, 04:59:24 pm
If anyone's available to proofread 94 pages of nonsense...

I can do some if you like. Probably don't have the time for all 94 if you want it on some kind of timescale.

If you could give me some quick answers on legibility (not content) that would be really helpful. There are some pages turned 90 degrees and I'm comfortable reading them, but I can also read upside down without giving myself a headache so I'm probably a bad judge.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 03, 2016, 07:39:31 pm
As work gets slower throughout the day, I may be able to dedicate some time to proofreading as well. The only information I need to know is, how SFW is it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 04, 2016, 11:22:56 am
If anyone's available to proofread 94 pages of nonsense...

Fling a copy this way too please.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 04, 2016, 01:00:04 pm
As work gets slower throughout the day, I may be able to dedicate some time to proofreading as well. The only information I need to know is, how SFW is it?

There are some image heavy pages and some swears in large enough type that a boss-type person could potentially read them over your shoulder.

For those of you who get the link, you'll have to actually download the pdf because only the first 14 pages are displaying online.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 04, 2016, 02:26:56 pm
It's all working fine for me online. Where do you want comments etc to go to?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 04, 2016, 02:56:21 pm
It's all working fine for me online. Where do you want comments etc to go to?

PM or in the Holy Nonsense thread in the Project Board?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 04, 2016, 03:44:44 pm
It's all working fine for me online. Where do you want comments etc to go to?

PM or in the Holy Nonsense thread in the Project Board?

Ah. Yes. I am a fool.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on April 05, 2016, 09:51:20 pm
Keyboard's shorted on the laptop.  Going in.  Can't see anything, though I detect hints of Cabernet.  I'm going to dismantle the logic board and give it some fresh air.  Hope that works.

Update:  Command key, possibly shift key, are acting like they're stuck, breaking all the others.  The problem nearly seems mechanical.  Morale sucks.  Tomorrow's presentation will all be in hardcopy, I think I'm coming to terms with that.

Update:  make that only half-hardcopy, keyboard is back online - hooray!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2016, 05:21:00 am
Northrop-Grumman is now involved in the exoplanet search, at the solar telescope, as of this month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Worlds_Mission



Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2016, 06:53:52 am
Well, you have to admit, the discovery of advanced alien life would be a boon to the arms industry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on April 06, 2016, 10:06:00 am
And, for back-breeding livestock to invigorate the heart of our game-hunting reserves.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 06, 2016, 12:35:23 pm
Due to news that is still unable to be determined if good or bad, I'm taking a sideways view and setting up another company in the interim.

I am also fucking terrible at naming things. So, if you can think of a decent name that doesn't actually mean anything or indicate anything at all about what the company does, let's hear it. I may very well use it.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on April 06, 2016, 03:12:42 pm
The Company, Inc. ?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2016, 03:20:17 pm
The Umbrella Corporation
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2016, 03:43:38 pm
United Technical Solutions
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 06, 2016, 04:22:11 pm
United Technical Solutions

Current leader.
The Company, Inc. ?

Taken.
The Umbrella Corporation
Likely to get me sued. I've spent/am spending enough time with courts and lawyers as it stands.

Others that are annoyingly taken involve many variants of "Illuminati" ("Who did the work" "The Illuminati". I am quite irritated that I can't use that) and multiple variants of "Hired goons".
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2016, 04:25:24 pm
Well, you have to admit, the discovery of advanced alien life would be a boon to the arms industry.

Well, yeah   :lulz:

It's more like they're getting paid to test their own optics, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2016, 04:25:56 pm
Due to news that is still unable to be determined if good or bad, I'm taking a sideways view and setting up another company in the interim.

I am also fucking terrible at naming things. So, if you can think of a decent name that doesn't actually mean anything or indicate anything at all about what the company does, let's hear it. I may very well use it.

The Boys.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 06, 2016, 04:31:28 pm
OI YEW CUNTS, INC.

REASONABLE MEN WITH CROWBARS CORP.

WOTBUGGEROFF LMT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2016, 04:35:24 pm
MR CHOP AND SCRATCH, LTD.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2016, 04:58:38 pm
REASONABLE MEN WITH CROWBARS CORP.

Winner
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Salty on April 06, 2016, 05:31:06 pm
Yo.

Been awhile since I didn't just ninja post...soooooooo here I am.

My number 1 favorite thing about Portland are the fruit trees and the weed. My least favorite thing is nothing because this place is way, way, WAY better than Alaska. I am so glad to finally be out of there.

The Boy's mom agreed to move out of AK about a year ago, I came here early and am now just waiting for her to get down here, should be end of May.

Another great thing about Portland is access to mental health care. It's been nice/rocky, but it looks like I've got PTSD. Probably have had it since I was about 5-7. Going to try some meds to keep things stable, but I don't know if they'll allow it what with all the weed. I guess I find out today.

It's nice to have a name for the thing that fucks you up and makes you yell. Naming the demon before exorcism kinds thing.

Anyway, it's nice to see you freaks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2016, 05:32:23 pm
yaay!  hi!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Salty on April 06, 2016, 05:45:04 pm
yaay!  hi!
Heeeeeeey, yay!
:noodledance:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 06, 2016, 06:19:26 pm
MR CHOP AND SCRATCH, LTD.

OH LOOK WHO KNOWS THE PROPER ABBREVIATION FOR LIMITED, LMT.

FUCK YOU LMNO, INC.

SUP ALTY SPECIALTIES
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 06, 2016, 06:19:58 pm
Yo.

Been awhile since I didn't just ninja post...soooooooo here I am.

My number 1 favorite thing about Portland are the fruit trees and the weed. My least favorite thing is nothing because this place is way, way, WAY better than Alaska. I am so glad to finally be out of there.

The Boy's mom agreed to move out of AK about a year ago, I came here early and am now just waiting for her to get down here, should be end of May.

Another great thing about Portland is access to mental health care. It's been nice/rocky, but it looks like I've got PTSD. Probably have had it since I was about 5-7. Going to try some meds to keep things stable, but I don't know if they'll allow it what with all the weed. I guess I find out today.

It's nice to have a name for the thing that fucks you up and makes you yell. Naming the demon before exorcism kinds thing.

Anyway, it's nice to see you freaks.

Heeeey Alty! Are there any nut-like foods that don't kill you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 06, 2016, 07:07:08 pm
REASONABLE MEN WITH CROWBARS CORP.

Winner

Tempting, if only for the logo designs that it would inspire. It's also tempting to abbreviate that to "People with Crowbars" and then ruthlessly mimic Pricewaterhousecoopers designs.

Currently between UTS and The Boys (I am unreasonable annoyed that I can't take Hired goons). Will have at least these 3 in the hat.


And Alty lives! This is good. The PTSD less so, but I hope that you're keeping well man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2016, 07:25:59 pm
MR CHOP AND SCRATCH, LTD.

OH LOOK WHO KNOWS THE PROPER ABBREVIATION FOR LIMITED, LMT.

FUCK YOU LMNO, INC.

SUP ALTY SPECIALTIES

EOC EAT MY SHIT, LLC
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 06, 2016, 07:58:32 pm
MR CHOP AND SCRATCH, LTD.

OH LOOK WHO KNOWS THE PROPER ABBREVIATION FOR LIMITED, LMT.

FUCK YOU LMNO, INC.

SUP ALTY SPECIALTIES

EOC EAT MY SHIT, LLC

 :lulz:

I like this one. I think you should consider it Junkie.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on April 06, 2016, 08:17:21 pm
DG&NR, VIII
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Salty on April 06, 2016, 09:14:50 pm
GOGIRA,

Only the nuts that are seeds. Haven't gotten to an allergist yet. Perhaps there is no allergy, perhaps there is only my belief in an allergy. But, being safe, seeds. Sunflower butter is delicious. The Boy doesn't accept it though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2016, 09:16:11 pm
First there is an allergy

Then there is a belief in an allergy

Then there is the thought of an allergy

Or something, IDK.  Making up significant sounding Buddhist koans is harder than it looks.  Those little bald guys really earn their yak butter green tea.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 06, 2016, 09:36:16 pm
GOGIRA,

Only the nuts that are seeds. Haven't gotten to an allergist yet. Perhaps there is no allergy, perhaps there is only my belief in an allergy. But, being safe, seeds. Sunflower butter is delicious. The Boy doesn't accept it though.

Seeds I can do!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on April 06, 2016, 09:51:24 pm
ERMAHGERB ALTY!  HAI!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2016, 10:08:26 pm
That point when you realize you're halfway through a response to a thread written by someone who ignores you completely. 

 :lulz:


*does not hit "post"*
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2016, 03:37:22 am
After a successful career of assassinating things in Requiem that everyone asserted would be extremely difficult/impossible to assassinate, including: dragons, centurions, enchanted spheres, non-teleporting draugr, ebony vampires and named dragon priests, I though I was enough of a badass to assassinate Thunder, the unique storm atronach that guards the Atronach Stone.

I was wrong.

So very wrong.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2016, 03:41:16 am
In completely unrelated news, Darkwater Crossing is now entirely depopulated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 07, 2016, 04:37:57 am
In completely unrelated news, Darkwater Crossing is now entirely depopulated.

Is this a place in a game, or is it a game unto itself?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 07, 2016, 04:40:18 am
I realized that I forgot about PD for a couple of days, so here I am all logged on and shit, making my presence known.

It's going to be kind of a brutal term I think.


Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2016, 04:41:30 am
In completely unrelated news, Darkwater Crossing is now entirely depopulated.

Is this a place in a game, or is it a game unto itself?

It's the nearest settlement to the Atronach Stone. 

I'm now going to see if it's possible to lure Thunder to a city.  For science, of course.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 12:56:59 pm
I realized that I forgot about PD for a couple of days, so here I am all logged on and shit, making my presence known.

It's going to be kind of a brutal term I think.

 :wave:

We'll be here.  We always are.  We're like herpes, in that way.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 05:37:37 pm
(a+b)(a-b) = a2-b2+1

That's all I got to say about You People.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 09:35:10 pm
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2016/04/07/near-isis-front-us-marine-artillerymen-fire-everyday/82748578/

So, my son is in that group (we were told he was being deployed to Kuwait).  The guy that got killed was my son's boss.  So far, Ian is pretty frosty about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 10:24:16 pm
Well, then.

I guess I know where I stand.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 08, 2016, 10:25:21 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 10:27:56 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 10:56:46 pm
QG has the right to use any of my stuff, as per our normal agreement. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 08, 2016, 11:02:07 pm
Fuck. Hope it calms down there soon man. Or at least for him to get through cleanly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 08, 2016, 11:20:49 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

I make a point of never watching that shit, just on the off chance that my brother ends up in that particular sandbox anytime soon. Can I send cookies their way?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 11:24:59 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

I make a point of never watching that shit, just on the off chance that my brother ends up in that particular sandbox anytime soon. Can I send cookies their way?

Unfortunately, I don't have a means by which to send him anything yet.  This was all kept secret until a day or two ago, so I don't have a mailing address.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2016, 11:25:13 pm
Fuck. Hope it calms down there soon man. Or at least for him to get through cleanly.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Zenpatista on April 09, 2016, 12:02:57 am
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2016/04/07/near-isis-front-us-marine-artillerymen-fire-everyday/82748578/

So, my son is in that group (we were told he was being deployed to Kuwait).  The guy that got killed was my son's boss.  So far, Ian is pretty frosty about the whole thing.

Jesus. Hoping for the best. It's a travesty that they didn't even tell you. Is that sort of thing typical? I guess he must not have gotten much notice either.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 09, 2016, 12:59:49 am
Yeah, the Pentagon has been super fucking shitty with regards to telling people where their relatives actually are.  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2016, 01:28:00 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 09, 2016, 02:32:15 am
I am, as always, in awe of the beings such as your son Roger, who allow us to live how we do, and put forth their own existence as collateral.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 09, 2016, 04:02:27 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

I make a point of never watching that shit, just on the off chance that my brother ends up in that particular sandbox anytime soon. Can I send cookies their way?

Unfortunately, I don't have a means by which to send him anything yet.  This was all kept secret until a day or two ago, so I don't have a mailing address.

If and when, ping me. I know shipping restrictions can be pretty tight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:09:53 am
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2016/04/07/near-isis-front-us-marine-artillerymen-fire-everyday/82748578/

So, my son is in that group (we were told he was being deployed to Kuwait).  The guy that got killed was my son's boss.  So far, Ian is pretty frosty about the whole thing.

Jesus. Hoping for the best. It's a travesty that they didn't even tell you. Is that sort of thing typical? I guess he must not have gotten much notice either.

It's an operational security thing.  If it gave them the chance to sneak in and fuck Mosul up really badly while everyone's watching Donald Trump beat his chest, so much the better.  Better chance of success, and a better chance of my kid staying in one piece.  Loose lips, etc.

My problem is that the operation has one of those media-ready names, Operation <adjective><patriotic noun> names (Operation Inherent Resolve in this case), which tells me we're going to fuck it up badly.

Of course, as the British can tell you, the two ways to get the public behind an unpopular war is a great big victory or a tragic forlorn hope defeat.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:11:16 am
I am, as always, in awe of the beings such as your son Roger, who allow us to live how we do, and put forth their own existence as collateral.

By holding down brown people while we take their shit, if we're going to speak plainly.

Although in this case, it looks like an honest attempt to defeat ISIS by forcing an actual head on confrontation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:12:03 am
Yeah, the Pentagon has been super fucking shitty with regards to telling people where their relatives actually are.  :sad:

I could have gone without knowing that his flank support consists entirely of Iraqi infantry, on both sides.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:12:46 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:13:11 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

I make a point of never watching that shit, just on the off chance that my brother ends up in that particular sandbox anytime soon. Can I send cookies their way?

Unfortunately, I don't have a means by which to send him anything yet.  This was all kept secret until a day or two ago, so I don't have a mailing address.

If and when, ping me. I know shipping restrictions can be pretty tight.

I will certainly do so.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2016, 05:24:48 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.

What's a battery staff table? 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:33:08 am
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.

What's a battery staff table?

The guys that plot the solutions for the artillery fire (ie, tells the guns where to aim).  He runs the communications side of it, both radio and electronic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on April 09, 2016, 08:23:11 am
Fuck, Roger. Just saw this on FaceSpace. Hoping for the best, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 09, 2016, 02:05:58 pm
Sup weirdos, what'd I miss?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2016, 04:31:12 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.

What's a battery staff table?

The guys that plot the solutions for the artillery fire (ie, tells the guns where to aim).  He runs the communications side of it, both radio and electronic.

Neat!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2016, 05:52:17 pm
Fuck, Roger. Just saw this on FaceSpace. Hoping for the best, man.

well, this is a family thing, so I'm gonna worry the way MY parents worried, which is how THEIR parents worried, all the day back to the word dot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Salty on April 10, 2016, 01:02:02 am
I don't get as angry as I used to, that's a fact. Too much, too hot, for too long.

But then somebody will do or say something to/about my family, and all the old fires burn as hot as ever.

How are you gonna say some shit about a grieving mother? How are you gonna be catty and cowardly about somebody who hasn't taken a literal shit on your face? I just don't get it.

God damn, nothing gets me into the mood for violence like that. Except these God damned Harleys that come out of the new motorcycle shop next to me work.

TO HELL WITH AMERICA.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 10, 2016, 01:54:06 am
Well nvm. I caught myself up on what's been happening.

I passed basic, I can spoon feed myself now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2016, 02:12:26 am
Well nvm. I caught myself up on what's been happening.

I passed basic, I can spoon feed myself now.

Have you learnt to eat soup with a knife (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nagl#Authored) yet?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 10, 2016, 02:19:58 am
No, but I can eat an mre one handed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on April 10, 2016, 06:55:26 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.

Good to hear he's staff, not so good to hear it's Iraqi infantry supportin the flanks. On the bright side, it's still spring, so at least the weather won't be as shitty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2016, 08:02:53 pm
I read "Iraqi infantry supporting flanks" as "No support on flanks" to all intents and purposes. I really hope I'm wrong about that as it sounds like enough of a shitshow as it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 10, 2016, 08:37:07 pm
Sorry to hear that Roger. I hope he's alright in the end.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2016, 11:03:03 pm
I read "Iraqi infantry supporting flanks" as "No support on flanks" to all intents and purposes. I really hope I'm wrong about that as it sounds like enough of a shitshow as it is.

Ian says they've held up okay so far, given that all they have to do is hold their positions, and they have bloody great 155 MM cannon that has line of sight in support.

I still don't like it much, but they should be okay as long as they don't have to advance.  They're pulling a Montgomery...Sit on their supply lines and make them come to you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2016, 11:03:52 pm
Shit, I'm sorry to hear that Roger.

Thanks.  Ian himself is doing fine, it's just a bit of a shock finding out he's been in combat for 19 days when we had expected him to be sitting in a pile of sand fleas in Kuwait.  Needless to say, his mother is beside herself, having seen what ISIS does to prisoners.

Good to hear Ian is doing okay.

He's on the battery staff table, he only gets hurt if the whole unit gets wiped.  But thank you.

Good to hear he's staff, not so good to hear it's Iraqi infantry supportin the flanks. On the bright side, it's still spring, so at least the weather won't be as shitty.

Yeah, the weather is probably one of the big reasons they chose to do this when they did.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2016, 11:04:29 pm
Sorry to hear that Roger. I hope he's alright in the end.

Thank you.

At any rate, he's now in the family club, if you'll pardon the expression.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 11, 2016, 01:19:30 am
Any book that wants me to read it is not a book I want to read.

Any book that wants me to buy it is also a book I don't want to read.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 11, 2016, 03:04:12 am
Any book that wants me to read it is not a book I want to read.

Any book that wants me to buy it is also a book I don't want to read.

So, what happened with the military thing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 11, 2016, 05:22:05 am
well, shit.  The whole thing's balls up.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/07/mosul-siege-stalled-as-iraqi-army-once-again-flees-when-bullets-fly-say-sources.html

The good news is I've talked to my son the day after the date of the article, and his mob was (as of Friday) still sitting tight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2016, 10:09:56 am
Well, shit.

It's not much of a silver lining but at least there was this:

Quote
For those trapped inside Mosul, hope for liberation has been put on hold. On Tuesday, some 18 civilians were executed by ISIS after being charged with “collaborating with the Baghdad government,” a day after the group publically slaughtered 14 of its own fighters under similar accusations.

With any luck they'll keep that up. If I recall my history correctly killing your own rarely does you any favours in the long run.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Sung Low on April 11, 2016, 11:39:22 am
Roger, I hope your son gets through this shit relatively intact.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2016, 01:42:47 pm
It may be small comfort, but Shiite militias have also mobilised for Mosul.  Unlike the Iraqi Army, these guys have little choice about running or giving up, so they will hold position no matter what.  Despite Iraqi government protests to the contrary, Kurdish news agencies are reporting that the al-Hashd al-Shaabi, the umbrella militia organization set up to combat ISIS, are present in large numbers.

I mean, you wouldn't invite a lot of these guys to dinner, Kata'ib Hezbollah, Badr Brigade etc....but I trust in their willingness to fight, their training and their equipment (which is apparently being sourced from Iran and the USA).  No doubt the Awakening Council have thrown fighters into the mix as well, and despite their Sunni backgrounds, they're also marked for death by ISIS.

Allegedly there are also significant Peshmerga forces in the area, though I don't think they're participating in Mosul itself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2016, 01:51:36 pm
Finally met up with my former co-worker for drinks, after nearly 4 months of trying, due to insane schedules between the two of us (she now works an 8-5 job, no weekends.  Not that I'm jealous or anything...).  Drinks and catching up were good, especially in the "actually not a complete shithole" part of London she works in now.

It's just...I'm not entirely sure what is going on.  I like C, but when we were both working, it was always strictly professional between us.  We got on well, and she is an intelligent and attractive woman.  I wasn't entirely getting that professional vibe last night and, once my dissertation is over, she wants to "make a day" of going out somewhere in London.

So, not sure where this is going, but I'm not complaining.  Even if I'm reading things entirely wrong, getting out from this shithole section of town, where the latest gossip is invariably the latest murder, may not be the worst plan.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 11, 2016, 01:51:41 pm
Fingers crossed for your family, Roger.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 11, 2016, 03:23:27 pm
My niece is gonna be a big sister!
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Post by: Freeky on April 11, 2016, 06:29:35 pm
Finally met up with my former co-worker for drinks, after nearly 4 months of trying, due to insane schedules between the two of us (she now works an 8-5 job, no weekends.  Not that I'm jealous or anything...).  Drinks and catching up were good, especially in the "actually not a complete shithole" part of London she works in now.

It's just...I'm not entirely sure what is going on.  I like C, but when we were both working, it was always strictly professional between us.  We got on well, and she is an intelligent and attractive woman.  I wasn't entirely getting that professional vibe last night and, once my dissertation is over, she wants to "make a day" of going out somewhere in London.

So, not sure where this is going, but I'm not complaining.  Even if I'm reading things entirely wrong, getting out from this shithole section of town, where the latest gossip is invariably the latest murder, may not be the worst plan.

It's nice to hear something nice happen.  Huzzah!
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 11, 2016, 08:26:47 pm
It may be small comfort, but Shiite militias have also mobilised for Mosul.  Unlike the Iraqi Army, these guys have little choice about running or giving up, so they will hold position no matter what.  Despite Iraqi government protests to the contrary, Kurdish news agencies are reporting that the al-Hashd al-Shaabi, the umbrella militia organization set up to combat ISIS, are present in large numbers.

I mean, you wouldn't invite a lot of these guys to dinner, Kata'ib Hezbollah, Badr Brigade etc....but I trust in their willingness to fight, their training and their equipment (which is apparently being sourced from Iran and the USA).  No doubt the Awakening Council have thrown fighters into the mix as well, and despite their Sunni backgrounds, they're also marked for death by ISIS.

Allegedly there are also significant Peshmerga forces in the area, though I don't think they're participating in Mosul itself.

It is actually a comfort.  Between that news, a butt-pile of air support, and a dozen 155 MM tubes, I feel mostly okay about this.

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Post by: Meunster on April 12, 2016, 02:14:59 am
Any book that wants me to read it is not a book I want to read.

Any book that wants me to buy it is also a book I don't want to read.

So, what happened with the military thing?

I'm in it. In my AIT now.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 12, 2016, 03:08:44 am
Any book that wants me to read it is not a book I want to read.

Any book that wants me to buy it is also a book I don't want to read.

So, what happened with the military thing?

I'm in it. In my AIT now.

woot.  Congratulations on getting through basic.  It's more or less downhill from here, and when you get to you permanent duty station, it's more or less nine to five.
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Post by: Cain on April 12, 2016, 06:49:25 am
It may be small comfort, but Shiite militias have also mobilised for Mosul.  Unlike the Iraqi Army, these guys have little choice about running or giving up, so they will hold position no matter what.  Despite Iraqi government protests to the contrary, Kurdish news agencies are reporting that the al-Hashd al-Shaabi, the umbrella militia organization set up to combat ISIS, are present in large numbers.

I mean, you wouldn't invite a lot of these guys to dinner, Kata'ib Hezbollah, Badr Brigade etc....but I trust in their willingness to fight, their training and their equipment (which is apparently being sourced from Iran and the USA).  No doubt the Awakening Council have thrown fighters into the mix as well, and despite their Sunni backgrounds, they're also marked for death by ISIS.

Allegedly there are also significant Peshmerga forces in the area, though I don't think they're participating in Mosul itself.

It is actually a comfort.  Between that news, a butt-pile of air support, and a dozen 155 MM tubes, I feel mostly okay about this.

It's a messy situation over there, but outside of being out of the country, he's probably in the best place possible. If I had to choose...it's honestly probably where I'd go, even as a civilian (safer than Baghdad, that's for sure).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 13, 2016, 02:59:48 am
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?
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Post by: Pergamos on April 13, 2016, 06:13:57 am
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

I know it's not homicide, but a soldier's job does include potentially killing people.  So I'd say in your situation there is no real upper limit on thinking about killing other people. 
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 13, 2016, 12:08:12 pm
Still awaiting details to determine how good/bad Schroedinger's news is. Short update suggests end of the month-ish. Also indicates potential good/bad is a bit larger than initially anticipated.

So, pretty much carry on regardless and try not to think about it.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 13, 2016, 12:46:28 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on April 13, 2016, 01:54:41 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 13, 2016, 02:33:03 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.

I was focusing on the suicide side of it, I don't know what the guidelines are for homicidal ideation, or where the line between "fuck that guy I hate him" and actual "homicidal thoughts" is. The rule of thumb for most psychological disturbances is "does it interfere with your ability to get shit done, make you miserable, or endanger yourself or someone else?" (I am not a doctor, ymmv, etc.)

I'm kind of morbidly curious how your murder fantasies work, but I wouldn't want to make things worse by asking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on April 13, 2016, 02:42:58 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.

If they are not fantasies any more but you aren't comfortable with them being called plans then find the nice middle ground and call them contingencies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on April 13, 2016, 03:10:42 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.

I was focusing on the suicide side of it, I don't know what the guidelines are for homicidal ideation, or where the line between "fuck that guy I hate him" and actual "homicidal thoughts" is. The rule of thumb for most psychological disturbances is "does it interfere with your ability to get shit done, make you miserable, or endanger yourself or someone else?" (I am not a doctor, ymmv, etc.)

I'm kind of morbidly curious how your murder fantasies work, but I wouldn't want to make things worse by asking.

Bludgeoning with a hammer is the most common. Consequently, I have had some (i think) good ideas for a commercial for hammers. Not a specific brand of hammers, mind you, just hammers in general, like those commercials for milk, beef, or pork.

I do have suicidal thoughts sometimes, but lately I've taken more of a "I can take it or leave it" attitude towards life. In my current suicide "plan" I am significantly older and make it look like an accident, preferably a hilarious one. Jetpack experiment gone awry, or something.

The problem is, there really just isn't anything that I want to do, and all I see in my future is a bunch of stuff I don't want to do. So if I never get around to doing all that stuff I don't want to do anyway, then oh well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on April 13, 2016, 03:17:29 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.

If they are not fantasies any more but you aren't comfortable with them being called plans then find the nice middle ground and call them contingencies.

It's good to keep your options open. Entropy is all about reduction of options.

The hard part of the math is deciding where the system boundaries are. Am I a closed system?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 13, 2016, 10:22:41 pm
If you are a person interested in the Notes on an Inconvenient Universe essay series, you may be one of the six people who downloaded the bad version of the booklet. New version is up in the propaganda depository with corrections, and an online/postergasm version has been added, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on April 13, 2016, 11:35:29 pm
I used to fantasize about bludgeoning people with hammers, then I (stupidly) skimmed through a video of someone actually bludgeoning someone with a hammer... that cured me of my hammer fantasies.

Mind you, I still fantasize about killing people, but now I strangle them in my mind.

Don't watch videos of people bludgeoning others with hammers. Don't even skim You will regret it. I did.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on April 13, 2016, 11:36:34 pm
Also, Roger, I hope Ian is doing well.
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Post by: Salty on April 14, 2016, 12:01:35 am
I used to fantasize about bludgeoning people with hammers, then I (stupidly) skimmed through a video of someone actually bludgeoning someone with a hammer... that cured me of my hammer fantasies.

Mind you, I still fantasize about killing people, but now I strangle them in my mind.

Don't watch videos of people bludgeoning others with hammers. Don't even skim You will regret it. I did.

Was it those Ukranian kids? That video changed any notion I had about fun on the internet. I thought I was tough, and I love gore in movies. Not the same, not at all. Nobody could ever capture the truth of a ruptured face in replicating it. The truth of the thing is too horrible.
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Post by: Hoopla! on April 14, 2016, 12:37:30 am
I used to fantasize about bludgeoning people with hammers, then I (stupidly) skimmed through a video of someone actually bludgeoning someone with a hammer... that cured me of my hammer fantasies.

Mind you, I still fantasize about killing people, but now I strangle them in my mind.

Don't watch videos of people bludgeoning others with hammers. Don't even skim You will regret it. I did.

Was it those Ukranian kids? That video changed any notion I had about fun on the internet. I thought I was tough, and I love gore in movies. Not the same, not at all. Nobody could ever capture the truth of a ruptured face in replicating it. The truth of the thing is too horrible.

Yep, that was it exactly. I saw pretty much 15 seconds of a 7 minute video and regretted it.
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Post by: Meunster on April 14, 2016, 01:28:13 am
Least it wasn't the hammer and nuts one.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 14, 2016, 01:36:20 am
Also, Roger, I hope Ian is doing well.

Right now, no news is good news.

Thanks, though.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 14, 2016, 03:43:35 am
So.  Wasabi jello.

They said I was mad.
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Post by: Freeky on April 14, 2016, 06:11:23 am
So.  Wasabi jello.

They said I was mad.

That sounds facsinating.  And awful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on April 14, 2016, 01:02:54 pm
I just gotta know if you put wasabi into a previously flavored Jello, or if you made neutral gelatin with wasabi added.

Because I'd love to try the latter.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 14, 2016, 02:51:04 pm
I just gotta know if you put wasabi into a previously flavored Jello, or if you made neutral gelatin with wasabi added.

Because I'd love to try the latter.

Would wasabi make friends with lime jello?
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Post by: LMNO on April 14, 2016, 03:25:45 pm
I'm thinking almost any amount of sugar would be awful.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 14, 2016, 03:35:58 pm
So.  Wasabi jello.

They said I was mad.

Please provide further details. This sounds like a wonderful gift to pass around.
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Post by: Trivial on April 14, 2016, 04:17:25 pm
So, town has a kkk problem again.  Jerks burning crosses.  Co-worker is blaming Sanders and Obama because socialism.
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Post by: LMNO on April 14, 2016, 04:27:36 pm
So, town has a kkk problem again.  Jerks burning crosses.  Co-worker is blaming Sanders and Obama because socialism.

(http://www.sott.net/image/s9/186961/full/cognitive_dissonance.png)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on April 14, 2016, 04:43:15 pm
So, town has a kkk problem again.  Jerks burning crosses.  Co-worker is blaming Sanders and Obama because socialism.
(http://www.sott.net/image/s9/186961/full/cognitive_dissonance.png)

Yeah I couldn't respond, except with some sort of expression of wtf.

He's getting nuttier after he learned I am moving to a new team.  So this might get fun.
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Post by: Cain on April 14, 2016, 04:46:07 pm
lol

So, the longest standing member of my department, excluding my manager, moved to another department last week.  This makes me the most senior member of staff, in term of time spent at the company.  A whole 16 months worth of it.

Also, the next most senior person after me just handed in her notice.

I, of course, will be looking for work elsewhere once my dissertation is handed in, at the end of this month.  This will leave the company entirely with its February 2016 intake, and whatever new staff they manage to scrounge up.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 14, 2016, 05:12:00 pm
Get the fuck out of there. The place will probably be on fire by the end of May and it will be halfway through June before they bother to deal with it.
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Post by: Trivial on April 14, 2016, 06:23:39 pm
I can imagine the roof gone and windows broken, and people worrying about keys.
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Post by: Cain on April 14, 2016, 06:55:39 pm
Probably.

My plan for the next 3 weeks is simple:

Today: die from lack of sleep.
Next two days: do some writing
Next 3 nights: work, do some writing.
Have day off, die from lack of sleep.
Write 1000 words a day, every day, for the next 10 days because I'm on holiday.
Send dissertation over a week early.
Collapse for a few days.
Update CV, Linkedin profile etc
Apply for jobs.
Report this place to various inspection bodies for its complete disregard for the law.
Laugh.
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Post by: Pergamos on April 14, 2016, 07:12:06 pm
How often is too often to think about suicide/homicide?

Daily or almost daily is potentially an indication of serious mental illness. If you have a plan, that's cause for immediate intervention.

Shit.

I asked a friend once if he ever had murder fantasies,he said he did and it was always in front of people and everyone approved, totally socially acceptable and zero consequences. I told him I did too, but it was in secret, and involved getting rid of the body. Then I thought to myself "Hmm... My murder fantasies may not be quite  enough like fantasies, and a little too much like plans." They have gotten significantly less frequent lately, though. So that's a good sign.

I was focusing on the suicide side of it, I don't know what the guidelines are for homicidal ideation, or where the line between "fuck that guy I hate him" and actual "homicidal thoughts" is. The rule of thumb for most psychological disturbances is "does it interfere with your ability to get shit done, make you miserable, or endanger yourself or someone else?" (I am not a doctor, ymmv, etc.)

I'm kind of morbidly curious how your murder fantasies work, but I wouldn't want to make things worse by asking.

I'd say the difference lies i how detailed it is.  Fuck that guy I hate him is not a murder fantasy, nor is "I wish that guy would die"  "I want to shoot that guy" is on the verge "I can get a gun at the gun show and it wont be connected to me and I know a good place to get rid of the body" is a murder fantasy (almost a murder plan)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 15, 2016, 11:37:04 am
Schroedinger's news has been resolved and it's totally good.

I am currently doing an impression of an 19C miner who just struck gold covered in oil. 
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Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on April 15, 2016, 12:26:00 pm
Schroedinger's news has been resolved and it's totally good.

I am currently doing an impression of an 19C miner who just struck gold covered in oil.

Congratulations!
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 15, 2016, 01:56:39 pm
Schroedinger's news has been resolved and it's totally good.

I am currently doing an impression of an 19C miner who just struck gold covered in oil.

So then your series of shady umbrella companies is just going to be for fun?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on April 15, 2016, 02:58:30 pm
Schroedinger's news has been resolved and it's totally good.

I am currently doing an impression of an 19C miner who just struck gold covered in oil.

So then your series of shady umbrella companies is just going to be for fun?

Fun and profit.

News was actually somewhat unrelated to business shenanigans. Will throw up the tale when I get a few minutes into the usual thread.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 16, 2016, 08:05:02 pm
Slab city still a thing?

I'm looking for a good vacation spot. Suppose I could go check out the weirdness in Austin. Or pilgrimage to the meat locker.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 16, 2016, 08:35:45 pm
Slab city still a thing?

I'm looking for a good vacation spot. Suppose I could go check out the weirdness in Austin. Or pilgrimage to the meat locker.

Any suggestions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Lure,_North_Carolina

The Biltmore Estate is about an hour's drive away from there, which is something everyone should probably see in their lifetime.
Also, don't know if you want cheap or expensive spots.

Also, not sure if I'm over-thinking this or if I have suppressed homo-thoughts, but there seems to be a pattern in the vocabulary in your question.

"Slab," "meat locker," and "Austin." ~ All eerily related to (And highly populated with?) meat and dicks. Wasn't sure if the question was prompting for vacation spots particularly high in those as well. Because I can help with that, too.
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Post by: Meunster on April 16, 2016, 09:11:27 pm
Yes.  spots with a lot of dicks please. Either pretentious or rude. Preferably not both.

Been looking for an anarch collective to hit up on the way. But they are all either dead or so underground I'll need an irc client.

Cheap is what I'm going for.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 16, 2016, 09:54:47 pm
Yes.  spots with a lot of dicks please. Either pretentious or rude. Preferably not both.

Been looking for an anarch collective to hit up on the way. But they are all either dead or so underground I'll need an irc client.

Cheap is what I'm going for.

Lake Lure is in North Carolina. If you're looking for an anarch collective there, you'll find that most of the members might have both of their teef.
In Long Beach Island New Jersey you'll find a low tide that will singe your nose hairs, but a population that is generally sensible, and polite. But if you leave the island, you find pretentious and rude.
Myrtle Beach will have pretentious.
Ohio, you will find rude. Not that you'd wanna come here for vacation, unless you like forests with no wildlife.
What type of environment and climate do you currently live in? So I know what kind of places to avoid mentioning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 16, 2016, 10:07:55 pm
Well. Dicks and high weirdness.

The only 2 things I want in life.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 16, 2016, 10:55:38 pm
Well. Dicks and high weirdness.

The only 2 things I want in life.

Those are growing demographics these days.

Also, I think I've found the perfect gif image to represent the discordians referenced in the Chao te Ching.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26FPqut4lzK3AECEo/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 16, 2016, 11:41:03 pm
But where can I find a congregation of weird dicks?
Besides a zoo.

Hard to find weirdos cause they always go to those red door alley houses around 1am every other Sunday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 12:07:07 am
But where can I find a congregation of weird dicks?
Besides a zoo.

Hard to find weirdos cause they always go to those red door alley houses around 1am every other Sunday.

Oh, that's Ohio. Endless supply, really.
Also, populated parts of Indiana, if I recall. Central United States is jam-packed full of freaky dicks. Short ones. Tall ones. Thick ones. Mostly harry ones.
And they'll all look at you like you insulted their mother if you pretend to have ideas.

And half of them will fuck you in the ass if given the chance. But they'll all deny it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on April 17, 2016, 12:28:52 am
Think we're off track.

I'm looking for dicks that enjoy being around. Like you guys.

Plus I'm from the mid west. Their dive bars are pretty bad and their warehouse raves have cops prebuilt in.

Where's the best gay bar in america? That'd be a good place to go on vacation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 12:43:10 am
Think we're off track.

I'm looking for dicks that enjoy being around. Like you guys.

Plus I'm from the mid west. Their dive bars are pretty bad and their warehouse raves have cops prebuilt in.

Where's the best gay bar in america? That'd be a good place to go on vacation.

I have a circle of friends that are functionally the same as Gay bars. But they're not dicks. They're just stupid.

If you want people like those found in this basket of poop daggers, then you'll only find them in generally anonymous zones like this one. Well, more like just under the radar. Not anonymous.
As has been mentioned in every Discordian text, they don't exactly like making themselves known, personally.They "Learn to Shut Your Fucking Mouth" a lot of the time. And the ones that don't, are like me, and just aren't old enough and lack the self-control, and tend to be boring or exhausting to be around.
And these people probably wouldn't even know what a Discordian was, or who Eris is. But they are Discordians, through and through.

As far as I can tell, they are also found, scattered, anywhere. In places you wouldn't expect. Like fucking Tucson.
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Post by: LuciferX on April 17, 2016, 06:36:33 am
(http://i.imgur.com/35Vzb5k.jpg)
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Post by: Salty on April 17, 2016, 09:34:08 pm
I am writing an essay for a Nature/Science writing course. Subject: Space Travel. Thesis: Human's shouldn't be allowed to do it for the good on the universe. I feel I'm on solid ground here.

For one thing, people are awful. Actually, that's the only thing.
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Post by: Emo Howard on April 17, 2016, 09:50:43 pm
I had a guy threaten to sue me today because I wouldn't let him put 500 gallons of diesel fuel into two giant non-D.O.T. approved tanks sitting on the back of his flat bed truck. Then the manager on duty called me and told me to let him do it, ruining all my fun.

Reclaimed some of said lost fun when the fire department showed up, then lost some of it again when they totally didn't make him stop.  :?
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Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 09:55:10 pm
I am writing an essay for a Nature/Science writing course. Subject: Space Travel. Thesis: Human's shouldn't be allowed to do it for the good on the universe. I feel I'm on solid ground here.

For one thing, people are awful. Actually, that's the only thing.

At least you'll have plenty of sources to choose from. The internet. History books. Atlas Shrugged. You name it.

I had a guy threaten to sue me today because I wouldn't let him put 500 gallons of diesel fuel into two giant non-D.O.T. approved tanks sitting on the back of his flat bed truck. Then the manager on duty called me and told me to let him do it, ruining all my fun.

Reclaimed some of said lost fun when the fire department showed up, then lost some of it again when they totally didn't make him stop.  :?

^^^ Possible Attention Grabber for Essay?  :lulz:
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Post by: Emo Howard on April 17, 2016, 10:06:48 pm
I have a feeling this story isn't over yet. The guy clearly thought of himself as a Very Important Businessmantm.

I just hope the manager doesn't get fired for approving something that was probably illegal. He's a pretty nice guy.
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Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 10:22:42 pm
I have a feeling this story isn't over yet. The guy clearly thought of himself as a Very Important Businessmantm.

I just hope the manager doesn't get fired for approving something that was probably illegal. He's a pretty nice guy.

When a container isn't DOT approved, does that usually indicate that the gasoline will be chemically altered and ruined? Or that the container's integrity is in danger? My initial thought was more toward the latter.

Also, part of me feels like this happens all the time, based on the behavior that you've described.

EDIT: I meant Diesel fuel
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Post by: Emo Howard on April 17, 2016, 10:29:28 pm
I'm not sure how much of a safety issue it is, an environmental hazard for sure if one or both of those tanks were to fall off the truck, but I suspect it's mainly a labeling issue.
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Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 10:34:37 pm
I'm not sure how much of a safety issue it is, an environmental hazard for sure if one or both of those tanks were to fall off the truck, but I suspect it's mainly a labeling issue.

Oh, ok. Sounds like they suspected the same thing, and have been conditioned to ignore process in that case. But that's still risky as fuck. If he is nice, we'll hope the manager knows what he's doing.

Interested in the follow-up, for sure.
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Post by: Emo Howard on April 17, 2016, 10:41:17 pm
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

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Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 10:59:32 pm
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

Waaaaaa? Based on the semantics, that would imply that they tried to pass THE BIBLE as a law?

"Section4, Article 21 B: 'Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.'"
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Post by: PoFP on April 17, 2016, 11:02:39 pm
Although, most likely something along these lines is what people would be worried about in that case:

"Section 2 Article 9.C

No man whose testicles have been crushed or whose organ has been cut off may become a member of the Assembly of God."
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Post by: rong on April 18, 2016, 12:07:11 am
Think we're off track.

I'm looking for dicks that enjoy being around. Like you guys.

Plus I'm from the mid west. Their dive bars are pretty bad and their warehouse raves have cops prebuilt in.

Where's the best gay bar in america? That'd be a good place to go on vacation.

Can't say for certain, but there is a good chance it is in Minneapolis
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Post by: LuciferX on April 18, 2016, 12:17:52 am
Well, to be completely frank...
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Post by: LuciferX on April 18, 2016, 12:26:26 am
I had a guy threaten to sue me today because I wouldn't let him put 500 gallons of diesel fuel into two giant non-D.O.T. approved tanks sitting on the back of his flat bed truck. Then the manager on duty called me and told me to let him do it, ruining all my fun.

Reclaimed some of said lost fun when the fire department showed up, then lost some of it again when they totally didn't make him stop.  :?

Fingers crossed that the diesel is powering generators for a free party =)
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Post by: Freeky on April 18, 2016, 08:51:21 am
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

I actually said out loud "What the shit?" when I read this.  I do not understand your people.
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Post by: PoFP on April 18, 2016, 02:54:38 pm
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

I actually said out loud "What the shit?" when I read this.  I do not understand your people.

Hills, trees, valleys, and God, as far as their eyes can see.

I'm really not that surprised.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 18, 2016, 04:46:40 pm
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

Your customer is nuts. 
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Post by: Emo Howard on April 19, 2016, 04:33:36 am
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

Your customer is nuts. 

Possibly. I suspect he may be the person, or one of the people leaving Jack Chick tracts in the bathroom.
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Post by: Don Coyote on April 19, 2016, 04:24:15 pm
Some days I think I should have taken my wife's name.
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Post by: Hoopla! on April 19, 2016, 04:32:50 pm
Also, today I learned from a customer that the governor of Tennessee VETOED THE BIBLE!

I thought he just vetoed a bill to make the Bible the official state book of Tennessee, but the customer corrected me, and I understand now that the governor did, in fact veto the Bible.

Your customer is nuts. 

Possibly. I suspect he may be the person, or one of the people leaving Jack Chick tracts in the bathroom.

I'd like to put a little money on that.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 19, 2016, 04:57:21 pm
Which way and how much?

Best odds on the internet or your money stolen.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 21, 2016, 04:02:08 am
Got to hand out some (long overdue) promotions I arranged.

It was a really good day.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 22, 2016, 11:23:56 pm
There is a swarm of killer bees in my building's air vents.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 22, 2016, 11:31:46 pm
There is a swarm of killer bees in my building's air vents.

Dammit, Roger, I'm trying to STOP adding things to the book...
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 23, 2016, 03:35:32 am
There is a swarm of killer bees in my building's air vents.

Dammit, Roger, I'm trying to STOP adding things to the book...

I can't help it.  I died and went to heaven.   :lulz:
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Post by: Cain on April 23, 2016, 06:40:00 am
There is a swarm of killer bees in my building's air vents.

Wu Tang Clan aint nothing to fuck with.
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Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 23, 2016, 06:46:32 pm
Interesting note:

All of the mosaic-capable telescopes, when not working a tasked project, are now doing a globular search with a radius of 30,000 light years, specifically looking for exoplanets in the habitable zones.  Planets judged to be outside of habitable zones are noted and filed, but not really examined.

It's worth noting that the DOE and NASA are spending a lot of money to do this.

The following is absolute speculation, and nothing but:

1.  The magickle get-you-there drive that NASA isn't talking about much these days may be a thing, and
2.  Someone feels a burning need to find exoplanets.

It's worth noting that there is no reason the hypothetical NASA drive has to reach orbit - or even take off - before starting its thing.  what this means is that carried mass is much less of a concern.

Took myself a sabbatical and now catching up so as to get back on the bus here. Came across this bit and Holy fucking shit!! If TGRR'S speculation here is true then everything is about to change.. again!

buy Aerospace stock and get ready to dump your "rare earth" materials positions.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 23, 2016, 06:58:02 pm
Interesting note:

All of the mosaic-capable telescopes, when not working a tasked project, are now doing a globular search with a radius of 30,000 light years, specifically looking for exoplanets in the habitable zones.  Planets judged to be outside of habitable zones are noted and filed, but not really examined.

It's worth noting that the DOE and NASA are spending a lot of money to do this.

The following is absolute speculation, and nothing but:

1.  The magickle get-you-there drive that NASA isn't talking about much these days may be a thing, and
2.  Someone feels a burning need to find exoplanets.

It's worth noting that there is no reason the hypothetical NASA drive has to reach orbit - or even take off - before starting its thing.  what this means is that carried mass is much less of a concern.

Took myself a sabbatical and now catching up so as to get back on the bus here. Came across this bit and Holy fucking shit!! If TGRR'S speculation here is true then everything is about to change.. again!

buy Aerospace stock and get ready to dump your "rare earth" materials positions.

I wouldn't dump rare earths just yet. Still gotta build the ships that get there.
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Post by: PoFP on April 23, 2016, 08:33:26 pm
If I ever happen to say anything Holy™ at any point in my life, tell them George W. Bush said it. That guy gets a bad wrap.
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Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 23, 2016, 10:23:35 pm
Interesting note:

All of the mosaic-capable telescopes, when not working a tasked project, are now doing a globular search with a radius of 30,000 light years, specifically looking for exoplanets in the habitable zones.  Planets judged to be outside of habitable zones are noted and filed, but not really examined.

It's worth noting that the DOE and NASA are spending a lot of money to do this.

The following is absolute speculation, and nothing but:

1.  The magickle get-you-there drive that NASA isn't talking about much these days may be a thing, and
2.  Someone feels a burning need to find exoplanets.

It's worth noting that there is no reason the hypothetical NASA drive has to reach orbit - or even take off - before starting its thing.  what this means is that carried mass is much less of a concern.

Took myself a sabbatical and now catching up so as to get back on the bus here. Came across this bit and Holy fucking shit!! If TGRR'S speculation here is true then everything is about to change.. again!

buy Aerospace stock and get ready to dump your "rare earth" materials positions.

I wouldn't dump rare earths just yet. Still gotta build the ships that get there.

Yeah... plus a supply boom in a high enough demand market isn't necessarily going to bottom prices out, but they might drop sharply in anticipation of the temporary glut.

Now if you want to pull a variation of the Nero maneuver with a hint of alleged Rothschild you might buy craploads through proxy companies (heavy on just the right insurance fund baskets all) in the lead up to the very first "ship coming in" and have made arrangements for a "tragic mishap" that prevents return of the supply then the market would almost surely frenzy and likely allow you to pick a rather high peak indeed to offload on. The key would be in having the insurers of the project expect to see market gains for their funds exceeding the actual liability payout and to "disable" the project after successful collection, but before successful return, and so make it a priority to salvage and also stimulate "legitimate" demand to supply the recovery project and put a fairly solid demand floor under the initial bubble.


I mean hay Q.G. how you been? As you can see I'm in a story plotting mood myself.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 23, 2016, 10:48:18 pm
I am about to fucking Office Space this goddamned printer, that's what's up. The third print booklet is giving it some kind of aneurysm, and I can't figure out WHAT part or WHY and FUCK EVERYTHING JUST PRINT.
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Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 24, 2016, 12:54:21 am
I am about to fucking Office Space this goddamned printer, that's what's up. The third print booklet is giving it some kind of aneurysm, and I can't figure out WHAT part or WHY and FUCK EVERYTHING JUST PRINT.

Hm.. entirely outside of my profoundly limited expertise, but if you do get your gangland love going be sure to take before and after pics and send them to the company along with a neatly clipped power cable. Send it to HR not Custy Serv. That should get it noticed.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 24, 2016, 01:21:42 am
I am about to fucking Office Space this goddamned printer, that's what's up. The third print booklet is giving it some kind of aneurysm, and I can't figure out WHAT part or WHY and FUCK EVERYTHING JUST PRINT.

Hm.. entirely outside of my profoundly limited expertise, but if you do get your gangland love going be sure to take before and after pics and send them to the company along with a neatly clipped power cable. Send it to HR not Custy Serv. That should get it noticed.

Printing from the other machine worked for no discernible reason. Printers are officially both magic and evil.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 24, 2016, 04:52:53 am
If I ever happen to say anything Holy™ at any point in my life, tell them George W. Bush said it. That guy gets a bad wrap.

Yeah, he only killed a few million people to line his buddies' pockets.
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Post by: Pergamos on April 24, 2016, 08:27:17 am
If I ever happen to say anything Holy™ at any point in my life, tell them George W. Bush said it. That guy gets a bad wrap.

Yeah, he only killed a few million people to line his buddies' pockets.

Isn't that par for the course for presidents?
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Post by: PoFP on April 24, 2016, 01:05:11 pm
If I ever happen to say anything Holy™ at any point in my life, tell them George W. Bush said it. That guy gets a bad wrap.

Yeah, he only killed a few million people to line his buddies' pockets.

Oh, I never said his bad wrap (Is it actually "rap?" This is bugging the fuck out of me) wasn't justified. I just know that we've been handing out freebies to bad leaders in history books for centuries, and I was just nominating him for the next one.

I think it would look a lot better to the next alien race that finds us if we give people like him more freebies. If they think we're funny, they might not eat us.
And then there's the off chance that they're right, and Bush is a reptilian, in which case giving him a freebie can't hurt.
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Post by: Freeky on April 24, 2016, 11:20:10 pm
Me and the monkey went swimming .  It was nice.  And cold.  But the weather is warming up, so it didn't matter.
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Post by: Meunster on April 25, 2016, 01:09:09 am
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.
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Post by: Pergamos on April 25, 2016, 07:22:40 am
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

Intentionally missing the obvious?
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Post by: Don Coyote on April 25, 2016, 02:06:12 pm
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

The military has a high chance of GIVING you mental health issues.
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Post by: PoFP on April 25, 2016, 03:29:21 pm
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

The military has a high chance of GIVING you mental health issues.

Then it sounds like their mental health care isn't all that great after all.  :lulz:

Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

Intentionally missing the obvious?


I think so  :lulz:
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Post by: Cain on April 25, 2016, 04:17:48 pm
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

Except officers.
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Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 25, 2016, 09:50:11 pm
What'd i miss?
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 26, 2016, 01:15:56 am
What'd i miss?

Discordia shat the bed again.   :lulz:
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Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 26, 2016, 02:06:24 am
Apparently the army has great mental health care.
Weird considering they don't let anyone with mental problems in.

Soldiers commit suicide at a higher rate than the general population. It's very bad for PR, and they will put you under 24/7 guard if you have any indications that you might be even slightly depressed or unstable.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 26, 2016, 12:09:56 pm
Managed to catch the current Mark Thomas show and had some fun at the meet and greet after it finished. Remarkably nice chap. I'm only slightly annoyed that I didn't know there was a meet and greet otherwise I would have turned up with a package of Big Words.

One of the good things that came out of this was that the "Walking the wall" show (hiking along the Israeli/Palestinian barrier) will be coming out on DVD along with 2 other shows. That's fucking great as that show in particular still stands out as one of his best works. Strongly recommended if you have any interest in the area just for the perspective provided alone. The various tales that spin off from it cover pretty much every emotion going.

In summary: met an idol and was not disappointed.
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Post by: Da6s on April 26, 2016, 08:51:47 pm
Somehow my 2 day training I'm conducting in Chicago in two weeks is now a 6 day training in both Chicago & Texas.

I would say I'm stressed, but I feel that would require more time than I currently have.

Anyone know of any fun bars or great food in Dallas?
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Post by: LuciferX on April 26, 2016, 09:06:08 pm
Got some kind of eschatological reunion coming up mid-may, where we are to meet different versions of ourselves from across time: 90% from the past (plus offspring), 10% impressionable snot faced punks from the future.  I have half a mind to attend and was wondering what kind of literature I could disseminate.  It would be a good vector.
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Post by: Cain on April 26, 2016, 09:07:17 pm
Managed to catch the current Mark Thomas show and had some fun at the meet and greet after it finished. Remarkably nice chap. I'm only slightly annoyed that I didn't know there was a meet and greet otherwise I would have turned up with a package of Big Words.

One of the good things that came out of this was that the "Walking the wall" show (hiking along the Israeli/Palestinian barrier) will be coming out on DVD along with 2 other shows. That's fucking great as that show in particular still stands out as one of his best works. Strongly recommended if you have any interest in the area just for the perspective provided alone. The various tales that spin off from it cover pretty much every emotion going.

In summary: met an idol and was not disappointed.

He seems like a decent guy, glad to hear he lives up to the expectation.
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Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 26, 2016, 09:52:17 pm
What'd i miss?

Discordia shat the bed again.   :lulz:

And we're left with the messy sheets?
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 27, 2016, 10:44:27 am
What'd i miss?

Discordia shat the bed again.   :lulz:

And we're left with the messy sheets?

Did you expect anything different? And it's Waffles! It Lives! How's life treating you man?
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 27, 2016, 10:47:17 am
Managed to catch the current Mark Thomas show and had some fun at the meet and greet after it finished. Remarkably nice chap. I'm only slightly annoyed that I didn't know there was a meet and greet otherwise I would have turned up with a package of Big Words.

One of the good things that came out of this was that the "Walking the wall" show (hiking along the Israeli/Palestinian barrier) will be coming out on DVD along with 2 other shows. That's fucking great as that show in particular still stands out as one of his best works. Strongly recommended if you have any interest in the area just for the perspective provided alone. The various tales that spin off from it cover pretty much every emotion going.

In summary: met an idol and was not disappointed.

He seems like a decent guy, glad to hear he lives up to the expectation.

You can't help but like anyone who describes Osborne as "Looking like he's proud of having a wank into a butler's face".
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Post by: EK WAFFLR on April 27, 2016, 09:22:51 pm
What'd i miss?

Discordia shat the bed again.   :lulz:

And we're left with the messy sheets?

Did you expect anything different? And it's Waffles! It Lives! How's life treating you man?

Hi there! Life's being a bitch right now, but it'll pass.

Or rather, the state is. Apparently I owe approx £1800 in back taxes. To be paid by August 31st. I'm getting married on September 3rd, so the timing is wonderful! 

Other than that though, I can't complain. :)
How're you?
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Post by: Freeky on April 27, 2016, 11:42:18 pm
Holy shit, congratulations!
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2016, 01:37:19 am
Apparently I owe approx £1800 in back taxes. To be paid by August 31st.

:rogpipe:

Quote
I'm getting married on September 3rd,

:banana:


Quote
so the timing is wonderful! 


:rogpipe:
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Post by: Freeky on April 29, 2016, 01:57:40 am
I'm trying to read about The Turner Diaries on wikipedia.  I don't understand anything.  For instance,

Quote
The "System" begins by implementing many new repressive laws on various forms of hate; by repealing laws against rape as rape laws are often viewed as "racist" and also imply that gender exists on a biological level, by making it a "hate crime" for white people to defend themselves from crime by non-whites even after all weapons are confiscated,
 

what does this even mean?  Are they using words in new and improved ways?  Have I suddenly turned stupid?
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 02:01:01 am
You're reading the convoluted logic of a committed Neo-Nazi trying to convince the world that he is being oppressed.  Of course it's not going to make sense.
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 02:02:28 am
Incidentally, I have a paper which at least in part deals with the role of the Turner Diaries in lone wolf terrorism.  I can PM you it, if you want

I literally just opened it to reference what I had previously written on the topic for my dissertation, so it's no problem.
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Post by: Freeky on April 29, 2016, 02:16:06 am
Incidentally, I have a paper which at least in part deals with the role of the Turner Diaries in lone wolf terrorism.  I can PM you it, if you want

I literally just opened it to reference what I had previously written on the topic for my dissertation, so it's no problem.

 Sure.  I was getting interested in it from your posts on fb, actually.
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 02:20:46 am
Incidentally, I have a paper which at least in part deals with the role of the Turner Diaries in lone wolf terrorism.  I can PM you it, if you want

I literally just opened it to reference what I had previously written on the topic for my dissertation, so it's no problem.

 Sure.  I was getting interested in it from your posts on fb, actually.

Ah, OK!  Long story short: The Turner Diaries is shitty Nazi fiction about how brave Aryan freedom fighters will eliminate the non-whites and Jews who secretly rule the world, in glorious cleansing nuclear fire but not before a whole bunch of terrorist attacks to frighten them into submission.  It's inspired a bunch of terrorists, including The Order (1980s Odinist terrorist group), Timothy McVeigh (found with the book, the FBI building bombing closely resembles his attack) and David Copeland (British nailbomber, attacked notable gay, black and Bengali areas of London).

PM on its way.
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Post by: Freeky on April 29, 2016, 02:27:17 am
Sweet, thanks! 

This book sounds awful.  I mean, duh, but still.
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 02:30:21 am
It has no artistic merit whatsoever, which is probably unsurprising given its content. Amusingly though, the publisher who owns it is Jewish.
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Post by: Freeky on April 29, 2016, 02:52:09 am
Are you for real?  Oh man.   :lulz:
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 03:05:17 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce#The_Turner_Diaries

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In 1996 Pierce sold the rights to The Turner Diaries to the Jewish publisher Lyle Stuart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Stuart

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Lyle Stuart (August 11, 1922 – June 24, 2006) was an American author and independent publisher of controversial books. Born Lionel Simon, Stuart worked as a newsman for years before launching his publishing firm, Lyle Stuart, Inc.

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He made headlines in 1997 with his then-current Barricade Books, by reissuing The Turner Diaries, a novel thought to have been the inspiration behind Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the Murrah building. He was a strong advocate of freedom of the press, and believed it was important for people to be able to read and make up their own minds (in the introduction he wrote to his reissue of The Turner Diaries, he made clear how strongly he opposed the viewpoint expressed in the book).
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Post by: Freeky on April 29, 2016, 03:34:09 am
Hm.  Well, at least he knew what it was.  Also, his view on freedom of speech is legit.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2016, 11:31:14 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce#The_Turner_Diaries

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In 1996 Pierce sold the rights to The Turner Diaries to the Jewish publisher Lyle Stuart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Stuart

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Lyle Stuart (August 11, 1922 – June 24, 2006) was an American author and independent publisher of controversial books. Born Lionel Simon, Stuart worked as a newsman for years before launching his publishing firm, Lyle Stuart, Inc.

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He made headlines in 1997 with his then-current Barricade Books, by reissuing The Turner Diaries, a novel thought to have been the inspiration behind Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the Murrah building. He was a strong advocate of freedom of the press, and believed it was important for people to be able to read and make up their own minds (in the introduction he wrote to his reissue of The Turner Diaries, he made clear how strongly he opposed the viewpoint expressed in the book).

Does your version have that intro? That actually sounds worth reading. The book, not so much but it could at least be turned into a contest of "Who can read this shit aloud for the longest with a straight face".
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Post by: Cain on April 29, 2016, 01:04:59 pm
Nope, I have a pdf which has apparently been scrubbed of Jewish influence.
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2016, 01:14:29 pm
I think the term is actually "Cleansed".

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Post by: LMNO on April 29, 2016, 01:17:47 pm
In a solution?
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Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2016, 01:41:58 pm
"The last solution you'll ever need"


I'll be under the pier all week.
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Post by: Sung Low on April 29, 2016, 10:17:58 pm
I done took some limbs  :argh!: :lulz:
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Post by: Pergamos on April 29, 2016, 10:31:50 pm
I am in Safford AZ.  It is  very strange place, a significant portion of the buildings seem to have vanished, but the signs referring to them have not.
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Post by: Cain on April 30, 2016, 03:07:54 pm
So...my mother works as a matron at a boarding school (far away from the one I'm currently at).

At wakeup call this morning, she found one of the students dead.  How was not mentioned to me, but because of the age and sudden nature, there will possibly be an inquest.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 30, 2016, 06:23:19 pm
So...my mother works as a matron at a boarding school (far away from the one I'm currently at).

At wakeup call this morning, she found one of the students dead.  How was not mentioned to me, but because of the age and sudden nature, there will possibly be an inquest.

Whoa. How's she dealing with it?
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Post by: Cain on April 30, 2016, 06:37:01 pm
Shaken up obviously, but my father's there and the school has offered counselling.

I'm just hoping that the coroner can do his job and the family can get some closure.  The school is relatively well known, and as the person in the primary care position, she'd be in the firing line if there was any stitch-up (and she has dealt with suicidal students, students on drugs and students with serious mental disorders before, so I don't believe for a minute she didn't exercise due diligence) or if the media felt like it was a slow news day and wanted to cause a clickbait/social media frenzy, as they are sometimes wont to do.
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Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 30, 2016, 08:45:39 pm
PeeDee, I have lost 20 pounds (1.8 Celsius) between January and the beginning of April, unintentionally. I am led to believe that this represents a potentially serious health concern. I'm going through the rigamarole of getting to see a primary care physician, but if I went to an urgent care clinic would they be able to get bloodwork done faster? Also, do I have some kind of cancer-AIDS?
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Post by: Salty on April 30, 2016, 08:55:39 pm
PeeDee, I have lost 20 pounds (1.8 Celsius) between January and the beginning of April, unintentionally. I am led to believe that this represents a potentially serious health concern. I'm going through the rigamarole of getting to see a primary care physician, but if I went to an urgent care clinic would they be able to get bloodwork done faster? Also, do I have some kind of cancer-AIDS?

My understanding is that both urgent care and primary care have to send stuff to a lab, maybe the same lab, depending on location.

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope it's just a tapeworm or some other horrible, treatable parasite.
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Post by: Salty on April 30, 2016, 08:56:39 pm
So...my mother works as a matron at a boarding school (far away from the one I'm currently at).

At wakeup call this morning, she found one of the students dead.  How was not mentioned to me, but because of the age and sudden nature, there will possibly be an inquest.

That's terrible. I'll bet she is on point all the time, hope she comes through it ok.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 30, 2016, 09:14:05 pm
PeeDee, I have lost 20 pounds (1.8 Celsius) between January and the beginning of April, unintentionally. I am led to believe that this represents a potentially serious health concern. I'm going through the rigamarole of getting to see a primary care physician, but if I went to an urgent care clinic would they be able to get bloodwork done faster? Also, do I have some kind of cancer-AIDS?

Given the timeframe of the weight loss, I wouldn't stress about the waiting to get tests done part unless you're talking weeks to even see a doctor. (Not medical advice, I am not a physician, etc.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 30, 2016, 09:29:34 pm
PeeDee, I have lost 20 pounds (1.8 Celsius) between January and the beginning of April, unintentionally. I am led to believe that this represents a potentially serious health concern. I'm going through the rigamarole of getting to see a primary care physician, but if I went to an urgent care clinic would they be able to get bloodwork done faster? Also, do I have some kind of cancer-AIDS?

My understanding is that both urgent care and primary care have to send stuff to a lab, maybe the same lab, depending on location.

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope it's just a tapeworm or some other horrible, treatable parasite.

Given the timeframe of the weight loss, I wouldn't stress about the waiting to get tests done part unless you're talking weeks to even see a doctor. (Not medical advice, I am not a physician, etc.)

Much thanks. I definitely expect any nearby clinics to send blood to the same lab, I'm just starting to get antsy. I missed my appointment on Friday and was rescheduled for next Friday.

I didn't really notice a problem until it started affecting my martial arts training. I got weaker and weaker, and then I started vomiting after heavy calisthenics. Not going back until I know where the fuck my already meager muscles went.
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Post by: PoFP on April 30, 2016, 11:06:37 pm
Well, Cainad. I've checked WebMD, and it appears you're probably going to be fine. Except for the fact that you're probably going to die a long, painful death. My condolences.
I'd make preparations soon.



On the topic of health, should it be of any concern that I've eaten a meatball sub that had a foam plate melted to it in the microwave? Peeling off the part of the bread that had the foam on it was going to take too long, so I just left it on there. I just remembered that people told me the foam is toxic.
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Post by: Freeky on May 01, 2016, 12:42:43 am
Holy shit, Cainad and Cain.  Hope things go okay.
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Post by: PoFP on May 01, 2016, 01:11:24 am
So...my mother works as a matron at a boarding school (far away from the one I'm currently at).

At wakeup call this morning, she found one of the students dead.  How was not mentioned to me, but because of the age and sudden nature, there will possibly be an inquest.

Fuck, I missed this. I'm sorry Cain. I hope your mother is fine. And I hope they find out what happened.






Cainad: You said it was unintentional, but are you sure there were no moderate changes to your diet? Reduction or removal of anything specific? Also, my weight is incredibly unstable. I gain or lose 20 lbs bi-monthly, depending entirely on absolutely no pattern I can identify. My first thought wouldn't be to assume a serious problem. But difference in age may explain that. I'm 20. I don't know how old you are.
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Post by: Cain on May 01, 2016, 01:37:56 am
Thanks all.
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Post by: Cain on May 01, 2016, 11:13:28 pm
Dissertation done, final conclusion and abstract aside.  Both of which can and will be done tonight.  That just leaves the bibliography and proof-read tomorrow before sending it off.
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Post by: LuciferX on May 03, 2016, 02:36:58 am
Computer went kaboom today.  Bye bye innerspace.
(http://i.imgur.com/09Zf4ZQ.jpg)
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2016, 03:31:07 am
Roger:  "The mount on the laser is kinda wonky, so if it swings your way, try to dodge the beam."

Operator:  "..."

I love my job.
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Post by: Cain on May 03, 2016, 05:48:05 pm
Oh god, I may be in love with Libre Office.

When cutting and pasting from my first draft dissertation (I'm rearranging the paragraphs for better continuity) it automatically transfers and corrects the citations with no work on my part.

Word probably does this too, but for the amount of money Word costs, I would expect nothing less.  Libre Office, on the other hand, is completely free.
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Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 03, 2016, 06:53:54 pm
Oh god, I may be in love with Libre Office.

When cutting and pasting from my first draft dissertation (I'm rearranging the paragraphs for better continuity) it automatically transfers and corrects the citations with no work on my part.

Word probably does this too, but for the amount of money Word costs, I would expect nothing less.  Libre Office, on the other hand, is completely free.

One issue I've had with it is sometimes the clipboard gets "stuck" (you paste something from another Libre Office document, then try to copy something from literally anything else and it just pastes the first thing).
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Post by: Cain on May 03, 2016, 08:19:14 pm
Huh, that kinda sucks.  I fortunately didn't run into that problem.

Also, just officially submitted it.  6 days early too.  Should hear back in 3 weeks or so.
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Post by: LMNO on May 03, 2016, 08:25:32 pm
Sweet!  Well done, sir!
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Post by: Cain on May 03, 2016, 08:36:40 pm
Yeah, now I can chill for 2 days before going back to work.

And then, I can actually look for other work.
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Post by: Freeky on May 03, 2016, 09:49:37 pm
Great success, Cain!
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Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 03, 2016, 10:17:02 pm
So I'm in the process of clearing out and cleaning my shitty efficiency apartment of 4 years worth of collected stuff. By the end of May I'll be unofficial but very welcome roommate at several residences and using my dad's mailing address for important docs. This last 5 weeks or so I've been entirely fucking off and dealing with the horribly toxic inner world I hadn't even realized I'd built up over the last few years working for those bastards. It's the closest thing I've had to a real vacation in my adult life, sad as that is to say, and I'm finally feeling decompressed and ready to try figuring out my next moves.

My physical health has taken a hard slide down these last couple years and as with my mentality I barely noticed how far things had slid until I broke away from my employer. About 2 years ago I was in the best cardiovascular condition of my life from walking about 15 miles a day on average duty for 1st shift. After I switched to 2nd shift in an attempt to both expand my experience and get out of the toxic company politics the cardio dropped off as I started driving a delivery route and handling the wash and dry operations by myself into the evenings. Now after not really exerting myself physically for a month+ I'm pretty sure I'll die if I don't make my body my top priority. I'll die anyway, but I'd like to know what being really healthy feels like before then.



Also congratulations Cain!

Also Cainad, hang in there man. It sounds pretty bad sir. If your appetite has remained steady, but you otherwise have those symptoms, it is definitely something to have checked. I hope the best for you.
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Post by: Cain on May 03, 2016, 10:23:22 pm
Thanks, and glad to hear things are going better for you.  I hear you on the body thing...now that I'm done with all my studies, I'm going to concentrate on dropping (even more) weight, then look for work elsewhere.  Working nights, along with the stress of this place, along with the stress of my degree, was a hell of a lot to handle.  Now the most important thing is resolved, and I can take care of the other two much more easily.
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Post by: LuciferX on May 04, 2016, 12:47:21 am
Congratulations Cain! 

-- 

On the home front, all vehicles require repair.  Main laptop is current priority.  Not happy about prospects, need to replace logic board, again.  OS was seven years old and won't talk to the new ones. I may have to choose between being either entirely stuck in the past, or the future.  I resent this, deeply.

If anyone has dealt with this recently I'd love to hear about it. 
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Post by: Freeky on May 04, 2016, 05:23:06 am
I was donating plama today and the needle kept slipping around and it ended up "infiltrating," (exactly what I'm not sure) but now I have a horrible bruise and it better be better by Friday because I need that 8th donation of the month bonus.  Stupid veins and blood and stuff.
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Post by: Freeky on May 04, 2016, 06:03:52 am
http://www.kongregate.com/games/KaMiZoTo_Creator/there-is-no-game?haref=HP_FRB_there-is-no-game

This is VERY amusing.  It takes about 5-10 minutes to play.  Also, this guy's voice is hawt.
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Post by: Da6s on May 04, 2016, 10:24:13 pm
Bought my first new car on Monday. Brought her home yesterday. 2016 Subaru Forrester. Was expecting the process to take all month. It only took about 3 hours.

Had finished paying one loan off. Now the car loan is for the same amount. In debt again, but eh, this car ideally will last me 10 - 15 years. Hell, the honda accord that was at the end of it's life before i gave it up for the navy made it 9 years & 140k miles with me, so I'm optimistic.

Dad's treatments are done. Now he's on pills until next Sept. I'm driving to CO over memorial day weekend for 2 weeks. While there, I'm going to decide if I can live with myself by being 22 hours away again & mainly driving back to TN 2 times a year for a few weeks so I see the parents more, & potentially moving back when/if his health deteriorates. Was planning to stay close, but then allergy season broke me. If I opt to move back to paradise, I'll make my exodus sometime in July. Ideally it would've been 4th of july, but I now have Garbage tickets in Knoxville July 18th, and since I've a shirley manson obsession anyways, that may warrant another few weeks.

2017 is going to be a helluva year. I turn 30, 2 weddings (one which will be AWESOME in london), mardi gras, & climbing trolltunga.
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Post by: Freeky on May 05, 2016, 02:50:28 am
Why does black floor tile cost so damn much?  The cheapest I've found so far is about $2.50/sqft.  Do they think no one will buy black glazed ceramic, and so all black tile must be porcelain or natural stone?
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Post by: Trivial on May 05, 2016, 05:04:46 am
Why does black floor tile cost so damn much?  The cheapest I've found so far is about $2.50/sqft.  Do they think no one will buy black glazed ceramic, and so all black tile must be porcelain or natural stone?

High demand from satanists.
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Post by: Trivial on May 05, 2016, 05:06:29 am
My cube mate's brain broke when Ted Cruz picked Fiorina, and now with Ted out of the race he's stopped talking politics completely.

Still talks about Fluoride, but no more politics.  It's nice.
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Post by: Freeky on May 05, 2016, 07:02:26 am
Why does black floor tile cost so damn much?  The cheapest I've found so far is about $2.50/sqft.  Do they think no one will buy black glazed ceramic, and so all black tile must be porcelain or natural stone?

High demand from satanists.

 :lol:
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Post by: LMNO on May 05, 2016, 01:10:18 pm
http://www.kongregate.com/games/KaMiZoTo_Creator/there-is-no-game?haref=HP_FRB_there-is-no-game

This is VERY amusing.  It takes about 5-10 minutes to play.  Also, this guy's voice is hawt.

I had time to play.  Is gentle fun.
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Post by: LuciferX on May 05, 2016, 08:40:02 pm
New (used) computer costs same as logic board.  Fixing it myself.  Mercury in retrograde.
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Post by: Trivial on May 05, 2016, 10:10:55 pm
Woo the FBI are in town.
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Post by: Freeky on May 06, 2016, 07:50:32 am
Woo the FBI are in town.

That's always fun and never somehow frightening and threatening. 
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Post by: Cain on May 06, 2016, 05:29:51 pm
Woo the FBI are in town.

Are these the cool FBI psychologists who look like they walked out of a fashion catalogue, or are they the likely corrupt Italian-American FBI agents who looked like they walked out of a back-alley boxing club and are likely combatting alcoholism, a record of violence against suspects and are probably secretly feeding intelligence to the enemy because the cool CIA agents are the designated heroes?
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Post by: Trivial on May 06, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
Which ones are the ones wearing black pants an jackets that say FBI?

*edit*  I forgot the hazmat crew.  Where do the hazmat guys fit?
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Post by: Trivial on May 06, 2016, 06:45:35 pm
I am on a new floor and there's a guy that is ranting like old cube mate.  Damnit they're everywhere.
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Post by: Cain on May 06, 2016, 08:46:52 pm
Which ones are the ones wearing black pants an jackets that say FBI?

*edit*  I forgot the hazmat crew.  Where do the hazmat guys fit?

They sound like these guys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwwKxEUu72Q).
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Post by: PoFP on May 08, 2016, 01:32:34 pm
Does anyone have a link to the thread where everyone made up positive, corporate vocabulary for awful things? I saw the thread awhile ago and had some funny thoughts. Now I can't find it.
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Post by: Emo Howard on May 08, 2016, 02:57:24 pm
So, the trash cans at the gas station I work at are an absolute disaster. Wider at the bottom than at the top, all kinds of inside corners, and rivets that hold on the signs on the outside poke through, all of which snag the trash bag, and rip it when trying to pull out the bags which are often stuffed beyond capacity with cups nearly full of beverages, construction waste (pieces of lumber, and/or cinder blocks), and tobacco spit bottles, and the contents of a few ashtrays. Whenever we pull them out, the bag disintegrates, and we have to stuff the bag into another bag before we can load it into the cart, and pick the spilled garbage up and put it back in the bag. Invariably getting ourselves thoroughly coated in garbage juice. THE REQUIRED VINYL GLOVES DO NOTHING!!!

As I was taking out the trash last night, it occurred to me that it seemed like these trash cans were never designed to be used as trash cans, but rather trash can holders, and that somewhere out there was a trash can that fits down inside these things. So I did some research, and I think I have found them.

http://www.forteproductsolutions.com/c-store-and-gas-station-equipment/pump-island-equipment/contourtm-all-in-one-wastewindshield-service-center/

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8001289   Hard Plastic InnerLiner   Black   39 Gallon   18.5”W x 12.0”D x 31.0”H

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forte-Product-Solutions-39-Gal-Hard-Plastic-Inner-Liner-/391365313950?hash=item5b1f30c59e

One of the websites I found that sold them referred to them as "optional plastic liner".  Not fucking optional, guys.


NOT. FUCKING. OPTIONAL.
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Post by: rong on May 08, 2016, 03:55:55 pm
maybe putting some tape or something over the rivets would reduce the snagging?
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Post by: Cain on May 08, 2016, 05:08:51 pm
Emo Howard, it seems like your work is eating from the trashcan of trashcan ideology.
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Post by: LuciferX on May 08, 2016, 07:32:46 pm
All plastic trash bags now coated by the state with un-tearable cloth fabric, recycled from courier pouches, optional faux ostrich finish by
Galiano
, while supplies last.

I suspect the plastic liner otherwise has a tendency of becoming it's own stand-alone trash can (that's what mine looks like)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 08, 2016, 07:51:48 pm
So, the trash cans at the gas station I work at are an absolute disaster. Wider at the bottom than at the top, all kinds of inside corners, and rivets that hold on the signs on the outside poke through, all of which snag the trash bag, and rip it when trying to pull out the bags which are often stuffed beyond capacity with cups nearly full of beverages, construction waste (pieces of lumber, and/or cinder blocks), and tobacco spit bottles, and the contents of a few ashtrays. Whenever we pull them out, the bag disintegrates, and we have to stuff the bag into another bag before we can load it into the cart, and pick the spilled garbage up and put it back in the bag. Invariably getting ourselves thoroughly coated in garbage juice. THE REQUIRED VINYL GLOVES DO NOTHING!!!

As I was taking out the trash last night, it occurred to me that it seemed like these trash cans were never designed to be used as trash cans, but rather trash can holders, and that somewhere out there was a trash can that fits down inside these things. So I did some research, and I think I have found them.

http://www.forteproductsolutions.com/c-store-and-gas-station-equipment/pump-island-equipment/contourtm-all-in-one-wastewindshield-service-center/

Quote
8001289   Hard Plastic InnerLiner   Black   39 Gallon   18.5”W x 12.0”D x 31.0”H

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forte-Product-Solutions-39-Gal-Hard-Plastic-Inner-Liner-/391365313950?hash=item5b1f30c59e

One of the websites I found that sold them referred to them as "optional plastic liner".  Not fucking optional, guys.


NOT. FUCKING. OPTIONAL.

All plastic trash bags now coated by the state with un-tearable cloth fabric, recycled from courier pouches, optional faux ostrich finish by
Galiano
, while supplies last.

I suspect the plastic liner otherwise has a tendency of becoming it's own stand-alone trash can (that's what mine looks like)

Yeah, the restaurant I used to work at was so cheap when it came to supplies that we used the liners and the cans, both, as trash cans because we were running out of trash cans.

Fortunately for us, the back patio of the restaurant was raised to the height of the dumpster that was right in front of the patio, so all we had to do was dump the shit.

Then I worked at a movie theater that didn't have liners at all. That yummy buttery, soda-y soup got on your shoes every time. You couldn't buy trash bags strong enough.

Emo Howard, it seems like your work is eating from the trashcan of trashcan ideology.

Also, Zizek reference?
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Post by: Cain on May 08, 2016, 09:12:10 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Gx2hVhR.gif)

(http://res.cloudinary.com/science-net/image/fetch//https://s3.amazonaws.com/5cienceimages/4ca98f44d70d08237456f2d05874dea5.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 08, 2016, 09:40:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Gx2hVhR.gif)

(http://res.cloudinary.com/science-net/image/fetch//https://s3.amazonaws.com/5cienceimages/4ca98f44d70d08237456f2d05874dea5.gif)

 :lulz: Ok, thought so.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 09, 2016, 05:54:46 am
Does anyone have a link to the thread where everyone made up positive, corporate vocabulary for awful things? I saw the thread awhile ago and had some funny thoughts. Now I can't find it.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36846.0
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 09, 2016, 12:09:09 pm
Does anyone have a link to the thread where everyone made up positive, corporate vocabulary for awful things? I saw the thread awhile ago and had some funny thoughts. Now I can't find it.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36846.0

This was a wonderful thread. Unfortunately, this is not the one I was referring to. It is similar, though.

The one I was looking for focused on transforming vocabulary like "Child labor camps" into "Youth Employed Cost Centers" or something much much funnier.

I appreciate the help, though. I may look for it again when I have time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on May 09, 2016, 02:03:54 pm
maybe putting some tape or something over the rivets would reduce the snagging?

I thought about doing something like that, though out of the 3 major problems, the rivets are the least worst. The department manager has talked about running out the trash twice per day instead of just once, which would probably solve the problem. If they're 3/4 full or less, I don't have any trouble with them, But I am also a 6 ft. tall male of average strength. Height and strength are both major advantages in this task.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on May 09, 2016, 02:23:42 pm
Emo Howard, it seems like your work is eating from the trashcan of trashcan ideology.

I just wonder if this was simple oversight, or if they did the math, and decided that the savings of $150 from not getting the five liners outweighed the labor savings of 15 minutes per day over the service life of 5 or so years of the equipment. By my math, that works out to about $50,000.

Also, there's the safety issue of having an employee spending 15 more minutes per day distracted and struggling, standing between two lanes of fairly high volume traffic of people who seem more focused on getting their fuel point discounts than they are on not driving like idiots.

But we got those shiny yellow vests, so I guess it's all good.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on May 09, 2016, 02:26:58 pm
All plastic trash bags now coated by the state with un-tearable cloth fabric, recycled from courier pouches, optional faux ostrich finish by
Galiano
, while supplies last.

I suspect the plastic liner otherwise has a tendency of becoming it's own stand-alone trash can (that's what mine looks like)

True. These are really trash can holders moreso than actual trash cans. *




*actual trash can "optional"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 09, 2016, 08:00:11 pm
Oh so Khan is the new London mayor.  How long before Deerborn memes become repurposed to London memes?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 09, 2016, 09:22:28 pm
All plastic trash bags now coated by the state with un-tearable cloth fabric, recycled from courier pouches, optional faux ostrich finish by
Galiano
, while supplies last.

I suspect the plastic liner otherwise has a tendency of becoming it's own stand-alone trash can (that's what mine looks like)

True. These are really trash can holders moreso than actual trash cans. *




*actual trash can "optional"

Design team suggested keeping outer can and reshaping inner can to be wider on top than bottom.  Can't stand alone.   Extra outer space to maybe fit more site-specific needs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 11, 2016, 04:44:50 am
Which ones are the ones wearing black pants an jackets that say FBI?

*edit*  I forgot the hazmat crew.  Where do the hazmat guys fit?

They sound like these guys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwwKxEUu72Q).

http://www.thonline.com/news/dubuque/article_46bf6d2a-ddc9-54a3-8bee-3c01572cbaa9.html (http://www.thonline.com/news/dubuque/article_46bf6d2a-ddc9-54a3-8bee-3c01572cbaa9.html)

Ice Pirates!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 03:43:02 pm
Let me know what you guys think about this train of thought before I post it on social media:

An explanation of all those Common Core v Traditional Arithmetic complaints:

Let’s say you’re in a cooking class, one which is graded by a teacher.

You spend a semester learning how to sharpen, hold, and slice with a six-inch chef’s knife.

You have a test where you must dice an onion.

You peel an onion and throw it into a food processor.

Even though you end up with a diced onion, you didn’t use any skills you were taught that semester, and the teacher says you did it “wrong”.

You complain that the onion ended up diced, and argue that using a knife is stupid.



 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2016, 03:58:57 pm
Not that I know too much about Common Core...but it sounds about right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 11, 2016, 04:12:50 pm
Let me know what you guys think about this train of thought before I post it on social media:

An explanation of all those Common Core v Traditional Arithmetic complaints:

Let’s say you’re in a cooking class, one which is graded by a teacher.

You spend a semester learning how to sharpen, hold, and slice with a six-inch chef’s knife.

You have a test where you must dice an onion.

You peel an onion and throw it into a food processor.

Even though you end up with a diced onion, you didn’t use any skills you were taught that semester, and the teacher says you did it “wrong”.

You complain that the onion ended up diced, and argue that using a knife is stupid.



 

Because I just woke up, and haven't been good at making connections recently, I don't get it.  But then, I was finishing high school when common core became a thing, so I don't really know what it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2016, 04:13:50 pm
Based on my understanding, it's more about focusing on the techniques to get correct answers than getting correct answers themselves.  Basically "show your work" turned up to 11.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 11, 2016, 04:18:19 pm
Shouldn't the two be equally emphasized?  Is that a dumb question?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 04:20:14 pm
Pretty much that.

"Learning how to use a knife" = Common Core techniques designed to help people think about how math works.
"Food Processor" = Traditional Arithmetic that produces the correct answer, but doesn't use the CC techniques.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 04:23:07 pm
Shouldn't the two be equally emphasized?  Is that a dumb question?

I'm not an advocate, but apparently the purpose is to teach kids how to use math that aren't going to be math or science majors.

You can memorize 12x13, but figuring out how much 37% off of a $53 purchase is both more useful and more flexible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 11, 2016, 04:25:08 pm
So in your metaphor, you're saying that using the knife == common core and processor == arithmetic?

Having done a (very) brief look into the principles behind CC then this seems like a good analogy. Maybe it needs a little more at the end to tie it all together? Something along the lines of Common Core is teaching us to use a knife, not dice an onion.

EDIT: Whether common core actually achieves these aims appears to be a whole nother discussion which I don't know a lot about.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 04:27:00 pm
Right.  I often make the mistake of not explicitly stating the conclusion.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 11, 2016, 04:27:31 pm
Shouldn't the two be equally emphasized?  Is that a dumb question?

I'm not an advocate, but apparently the purpose is to teach kids how to use math that aren't going to be math or science majors.

You can memorize 12x13, but figuring out how much 37% off of a $53 purchase is both more useful and more flexible.

I suppose that makes sense.  But given the trouble the monkey has with basic addition and subtraction, adding rote memorizing to the curriculum seems like it could help, too.  But then again, maybe not, because that would undermine the common core method.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 11, 2016, 05:16:04 pm
Ultimately, I think the issue with common core math is that the way they test it isn't great for kids who aren't wholly motivated by good grades and teacher praise. The "I did what you told me" crowd will always go for the food processor, because "what you told me" is cut up an onion. Asking kids to teach a fictional person how to do the problem might help with the motivation to do it the common core way, or maybe introducing a problem that is too hard for them to reasonably brute force in their heads (also how you spot the autistic math savants early lol).

I've got two kids in school right now, one is flying through it and one still hates the show your workiness.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 11, 2016, 05:43:26 pm
Ultimately, I think the issue with common core math is that the way they test it isn't great for kids who aren't wholly motivated by good grades and teacher praise. The "I did what you told me" crowd will always go for the food processor, because "what you told me" is cut up an onion. Asking kids to teach a fictional person how to do the problem might help with the motivation to do it the common core way, or maybe introducing a problem that is too hard for them to reasonably brute force in their heads (also how you spot the autistic math savants early lol).

I've got two kids in school right now, one is flying through it and one still hates the show your workiness.

It seems like common core caters more towards kids who are comfortable as conceptual thinkers. If you find it difficult to understand the abstractions that a lot of maths involves then you're probably not gonna be keen on the method that wants to expose those ideas. The 'traditional' rote method will be easier for some people to understand and regurgitate on a test.

Having said that, it seems to me that the further you go in maths the more and more you're going to have to deal with concepts that aren't easy to visualise. Once you've hit about 11 (High school?) shouldn't you be past learning basic multiplication/division/addition etc? Teaching common core as a baseline sounds like a good idea. However, it will be important that the teachers are able to properly articulate and expand on the ideas that common core presents. If the teachers don't understand it or can't pass that knowledge on effectively I can see that common core quickly becomes a lot more frustrating for students than traditional maths.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 05:58:34 pm
One would think the teacher or test would explicitly say or stress to solve the problem in the way it had been taught to you while you were in class.  As a Childless American, I have no idea if that's the case or not.

I also suspect that some of the homework is being done by some parents, who haven't spent time learning the lessons, and answer it the way they were taught; then when the kid gets it "wrong", they freak out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2016, 06:40:25 pm
Let me know what you guys think about this train of thought before I post it on social media:

An explanation of all those Common Core v Traditional Arithmetic complaints:

Let’s say you’re in a cooking class, one which is graded by a teacher.

You spend a semester learning how to sharpen, hold, and slice with a six-inch chef’s knife.

You have a test where you must dice an onion.

You peel an onion and throw it into a food processor.

Even though you end up with a diced onion, you didn’t use any skills you were taught that semester, and the teacher says you did it “wrong”.

You complain that the onion ended up diced, and argue that using a knife is stupid.



 

I'm going to argue that, in that the knife might not always be the stupid way to do it, and you should probably be proficient in using a knife if you are going to be a cook.

It is worth noting that in the military, 80% of training time is done with all the high tech doodads off, so that you retain the basics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2016, 06:43:35 pm


I'm not an advocate, but apparently the purpose is to teach kids how to use math that aren't going to be math or science majors.


What this is doing is raising two distinct classes of student.  The second kind are the serfs.

Fact:  We taught arithmetic by rote for something to the order of 150 years, and it worked.  At higher levels of math, the rote method becomes less useful, as you know, but at the bottom end, you gotta memorize the multiplication tables.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2016, 06:44:41 pm

It seems like common core caters more towards kids who are comfortable as conceptual thinkers.

And that's great, but education by its very definition involves stepping out of your comfort zone, repeatedly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 11, 2016, 07:09:45 pm

I also suspect that some of the homework is being done by some parents, who haven't spent time learning the lessons, and answer it the way they were taught; then when the kid gets it "wrong", they freak out.

Heh good point, I hadn't considered that.

Let me know what you guys think about this train of thought before I post it on social media:

An explanation of all those Common Core v Traditional Arithmetic complaints:

Let’s say you’re in a cooking class, one which is graded by a teacher.

You spend a semester learning how to sharpen, hold, and slice with a six-inch chef’s knife.

You have a test where you must dice an onion.

You peel an onion and throw it into a food processor.

Even though you end up with a diced onion, you didn’t use any skills you were taught that semester, and the teacher says you did it “wrong”.

You complain that the onion ended up diced, and argue that using a knife is stupid.



 

I'm going to argue that, in that the knife might not always be the stupid way to do it, and you should probably be proficient in using a knife if you are going to be a cook.


I think that's the same point LMNO is making.

I don't see why both techniques can't be taught alongside each other. They both 'work' and some people click with one better than the other.

I loved maths throughout school so maybe I am coming at it from a different perspective to many.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 11, 2016, 07:28:20 pm

It seems like common core caters more towards kids who are comfortable as conceptual thinkers.

And that's great, but education by its very definition involves stepping out of your comfort zone, repeatedly.

Yeah but it's not those kids who are gonna have trouble either way you spin it. I don't really know what point I was making here - maybe that those who just want to learn their times tables and then drop maths are going to have even more trouble with CC style learning.

I think I agree with you that this is gonna create a two-tier classroom. However, hasn't it always been like this? When I was at school we had a 'top set' who learned more advanced material than the rest.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2016, 08:04:00 pm
I'm going to argue that, in that the knife might not always be the stupid way to do it, and you should probably be proficient in using a knife if you are going to be a cook.

Good point, and I do think it's useful to have some of the tables memorized. 

The main argument I'm seeing though, is that people are seeing two different things as "wrong".  The teachers are seeing that the kids haven't learned the techniques, and the parents (usually, it's the parents) are seeing that the answer was right, so who cares about the technique?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cramulus on May 11, 2016, 08:35:31 pm
I like LMNO's framing there.

I feel like a lot of the objection to common core is that the adults in this metaphor always used food processors and can't fathom their kids being taught anything different.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 11, 2016, 09:27:49 pm
I followed a different curriculum and also had similar problems with the food processor.  Because the final exam was timed, I had become dependent on making preparatory measures on the food-processor (calculator), that would not entirely result in me also showing my working, to the detriment of my grade.  Although this sucked for me way back then, it accurately expressed how the food-processor detracted from my capacity to think-through and hold together the 'process' of cooking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 11, 2016, 10:46:24 pm
Xaz, 11 is 4th grade, or the second-to-last year of elementary school (unless that elementary school has 6th, also).  That's when kids start learning their multiplication and division, and fractions.  Even in 8th, I still remember going through fractions and geometry.  Algebra wasn't until 9th, when kids were STILL having problems with x and /.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 11, 2016, 10:51:26 pm
I'm going to argue that, in that the knife might not always be the stupid way to do it, and you should probably be proficient in using a knife if you are going to be a cook.

Good point, and I do think it's useful to have some of the tables memorized. 

The main argument I'm seeing though, is that people are seeing two different things as "wrong".  The teachers are seeing that the kids haven't learned the techniques, and the parents (usually, it's the parents) are seeing that the answer was right, so who cares about the technique?

Speaking as a tradesman by training, the method is as important as the results.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pergamos on May 12, 2016, 07:02:49 am
As a parent who helps his kid with math I definitely know the pain of needing specific techniques.  My daughter also takes after me in hating to show her work.  Fortunately for me she's home schooling (online charter) so the lesson is right there if I don't understand it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 12, 2016, 06:59:24 pm
Cainad complains:

The doc diagnosed typical hyperthyroidism, which explains very clearly why I lost 20 pounds in three months and my resting heart rate was over 100. So for now I'm Grabbin' Pillz.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little pissed. I was in the best physical shape of my life 6 months ago, and now I can barely do a push-up without feeling like I'm dying.

Anyone got advice for getting fat?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: MMIX on May 12, 2016, 07:21:23 pm
Cainad complains:

The doc diagnosed typical hyperthyroidism, which explains very clearly why I lost 20 pounds in three months and my resting heart rate was over 100. So for now I'm Grabbin' Pillz.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little pissed. I was in the best physical shape of my life 6 months ago, and now I can barely do a push-up without feeling like I'm dying.

Anyone got advice for getting fat?

Hypothyroidism. Works like a charm!

More seriously, once they get your thyroid levels re-balanced your weight should sort itself out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2016, 07:21:32 pm
Pizza and beer.

LMNO
-Worked for me (whoops).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cramulus on May 12, 2016, 08:59:15 pm
Help me locate a thread... I recall there being a great thread around here where somebody was talking about That Good Anarchist Utopia and people smacked some sense into him. Actually there's probably a dozen threads like that.

Where did the "I'm gonna take your sandwich" meme come from?

 I need to smack some sense into a deluded anarchist and I think that thread might have been a right and proper Chair Leg of Truth.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 12, 2016, 09:11:06 pm
Help me locate a thread... I recall there being a great thread around here where somebody was talking about That Good Anarchist Utopia and people smacked some sense into him. Actually there's probably a dozen threads like that.

Where did the "I'm gonna take your sandwich" meme come from?

 I need to smack some sense into a deluded anarchist and I think that thread might have been a right and proper Chair Leg of Truth.

Was that one of Captain Utopia's?  It kind of sounds like the one he ended up going full potato over and that's why he changed his name to "Captain Utopia."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 12, 2016, 09:30:08 pm
Help me locate a thread... I recall there being a great thread around here where somebody was talking about That Good Anarchist Utopia and people smacked some sense into him. Actually there's probably a dozen threads like that.

Where did the "I'm gonna take your sandwich" meme come from?

 I need to smack some sense into a deluded anarchist and I think that thread might have been a right and proper Chair Leg of Truth.

I used it first, but I stole it from the "Wayne Brady" episode of David Chapelle.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 14, 2016, 10:00:34 pm
Logic board replaced.  Machine booted, performed backup.  HDD then proceeded to corrupt it's own boot sector, all by itself, and launchd shit the bed.  Such are the dangers of domesticated unix.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 15, 2016, 07:31:10 pm
When I breathe in just above normal amounts, I get a very very sharp pain in my chest just under where I suppose my heart is. Feels like something is pressing on my ribs or stabbing me there. Shortly after the pain, I have to take shallow breaths. And I have to avoid yawning or the pain becomes so much that I would probably pass out. I went to sneeze earlier and the pain was so bad the sneeze stopped mid-start. This kinda thing happens from time to time but usually only lasts a few minutes. It's been going on for an hour or so now. Should I go to the doctor?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 15, 2016, 07:41:51 pm
When I breathe in just above normal amounts, I get a very very sharp pain in my chest just under where I suppose my heart is. Feels like something is pressing on my ribs or stabbing me there. Shortly after the pain, I have to take shallow breaths. And I have to avoid yawning or the pain becomes so much that I would probably pass out. I went to sneeze earlier and the pain was so bad the sneeze stopped mid-start. This kinda thing happens from time to time but usually only lasts a few minutes. It's been going on for an hour or so now. Should I go to the doctor?

That sounds horrible and at least "call the doctor's office" worthy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 15, 2016, 07:51:37 pm
Intercostal cramp?

---

Bad sector(s) on drive preventing bootable clone of HD.  Relevant good files stuck on time-machine.  Why do I use time-machine?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 15, 2016, 10:04:50 pm
When I breathe in just above normal amounts, I get a very very sharp pain in my chest just under where I suppose my heart is. Feels like something is pressing on my ribs or stabbing me there. Shortly after the pain, I have to take shallow breaths. And I have to avoid yawning or the pain becomes so much that I would probably pass out. I went to sneeze earlier and the pain was so bad the sneeze stopped mid-start. This kinda thing happens from time to time but usually only lasts a few minutes. It's been going on for an hour or so now. Should I go to the doctor?

That sounds horrible and at least "call the doctor's office" worthy.

Sounds good to me. Too bad I don't get off work for another 3 hours.

Fernando Poo
~ FUCK

Intercostal cramp?

Just looked that up. Sounds exactly right. But it's been happening for most of my life. Intercostal muscle sprains, etc. tend to be temporary. Although, the fact that that's muscular might explain a lot of things. If I stretch at all like I used to, my muscles will spasm or feel like they're being ripped out of place, and more than a brisk walk will cause my legs to go out if they're not warmed up. Also, my toes often feel like they're being folded over one another, and I have to press my foot to the ground really hard to keep them from doing so until the muscle spasm stops. I also get similar pains in my sternum, which would only be explained by a fracture, or intercostal muscle issues.

Fuck, I'm going to the doctor. I'm getting checked for muscular diseases.

Thanks for the input all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 15, 2016, 11:56:49 pm
I am suffering from a valium and bourbon hangover.  Everyone please die.  And if you love me, you'll do it quietly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on May 16, 2016, 03:16:11 am
I am suffering from a valium and bourbon hangover.  Everyone please die.  And if you love me, you'll do it quietly.

That sounds nice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on May 16, 2016, 03:59:30 am
My contract is just about over and I don't have another job lined up.

In the eloquent words of Reggie Watts, "Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck."

I can now design, develop, and deploy full stack web apps though. And I've got a few promising leads, but still....

:cpd:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2016, 03:05:51 pm
Apparently the University wanted my dissertation re-formatted, for printing purposes.

It's no biggie - it was submitted on time etc. but it just means messing around in LibreOffice's settings to make it look more like a Word document.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 16, 2016, 03:25:23 pm
I am suffering from a valium and bourbon hangover.  Everyone please die.  And if you love me, you'll do it quietly.

Ok... (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76m_1_aK_fw)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 16, 2016, 03:30:01 pm
My contract is just about over and I don't have another job lined up.

In the eloquent words of Reggie Watts, "Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck."

I can now design, develop, and deploy full stack web apps though. And I've got a few promising leads, but still....

:cpd:

Maybe you could make an app that helps citizens monitor for corruption and "procedural indescretion". Like C-span but without all the C-span. Even if it's not very helpful or buggy af the thing will likely be popular for at least through the first half of the next prez term no matter who wins.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 16, 2016, 03:38:57 pm
Fernando Poo I suspect, in a speculative entertainment only capacity, that you have a nutrition deficit of potassium, but going to a doc is a must because it could be a congenital muscular or neurological problem. That you've experienced those symptoms for a long time implies that you either eat very poorly on the regular or you're not able to utilize potassium properly for some reason. If you're not inclined to go or the cost is prohibitive you could consume a banana with each meal for a week and 2 before bedtime and see if your symptoms persist. If they do persist AT ALL after a week or don't improve in the slightest after a couple days go asap.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 16, 2016, 04:19:58 pm
Hoopla, Mrs. Hoopla, and myself ran riot over New York City.

Well, more like just a bar. And by "riot" I mean "drank a responsible number of beers."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2016, 04:40:45 pm
lol St Andrews computers are so antiquated I've forced the print office into submission and had to send a PDF.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 16, 2016, 05:54:14 pm
When I breathe in just above normal amounts, I get a very very sharp pain in my chest just under where I suppose my heart is. Feels like something is pressing on my ribs or stabbing me there. Shortly after the pain, I have to take shallow breaths. And I have to avoid yawning or the pain becomes so much that I would probably pass out. I went to sneeze earlier and the pain was so bad the sneeze stopped mid-start. This kinda thing happens from time to time but usually only lasts a few minutes. It's been going on for an hour or so now. Should I go to the doctor?

I've had that forever.  It's probably a cramp, but if you don't have to pay any fees, a doctor's visit won't kill you.  At least see if you can talk to your doctor before coming in.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 16, 2016, 06:25:35 pm
My contract is just about over and I don't have another job lined up.

In the eloquent words of Reggie Watts, "Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck."

I can now design, develop, and deploy full stack web apps though. And I've got a few promising leads, but still....

:cpd:

I'm going to get into bots pretty soon, applied to my own company but it looks like that one's ripe pickings for consultancy if that's your bag. All the big players have bot projects in the pipeline and (unlike wi the internet) we have the infrastructure here already and everyone is already connected to so there's no technological barriers to adoption like last time round.

If I was looking to freelance, I'd be getting in early and trying to get a couple of projects under my belt, targeting businesses and hooking a bot into their booking/ordering/erp/whatever system. The use cases as far as I can see are damn near any scenario which currently benefits from having a computer system in the first place.

As Kevin Kelly said - "Take X and add AI"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 16, 2016, 08:22:18 pm
Fernando Poo I suspect, in a speculative entertainment only capacity, that you have a nutrition deficit of potassium, but going to a doc is a must because it could be a congenital muscular or neurological problem. That you've experienced those symptoms for a long time implies that you either eat very poorly on the regular or you're not able to utilize potassium properly for some reason. If you're not inclined to go or the cost is prohibitive you could consume a banana with each meal for a week and 2 before bedtime and see if your symptoms persist. If they do persist AT ALL after a week or don't improve in the slightest after a couple days go asap.

Yea, this.  Potassium, magnesium (I think they compete), and hydration.  Then doc.

---

Hard drive is working again, so the logic board decided to fail instead.  Now it's time for that unpleasant call to J(un)K Computers.  I am LuciferX's damned frustration.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: rong on May 16, 2016, 08:27:12 pm
Fernando Poo I suspect, in a speculative entertainment only capacity, that you have a nutrition deficit of potassium, but going to a doc is a must because it could be a congenital muscular or neurological problem. That you've experienced those symptoms for a long time implies that you either eat very poorly on the regular or you're not able to utilize potassium properly for some reason. If you're not inclined to go or the cost is prohibitive you could consume a banana with each meal for a week and 2 before bedtime and see if your symptoms persist. If they do persist AT ALL after a week or don't improve in the slightest after a couple days go asap.

Yea, this.  Potassium, magnesium (I think they compete), and hydration.  Then doc.

Fwiw, I was thinking this too.  If you've had it this long and it hasn't killed you yet, it probably won't kill you any time soon.  And, if you've had it this long, and it can kill you, its probably too late.  But, what do I know? I'm no Dr
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 16, 2016, 09:15:49 pm
Neither am I, though I suspect the first visit would have yielded a similar diagnostic process.  Blood-work will now test metabolism over diet.  Maybe try not to eat anything on appointment day, if you can snag one in the morning.  (I have a built in bias to minimize doctor visits)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 16, 2016, 10:28:52 pm
Fernando Poo I suspect, in a speculative entertainment only capacity, that you have a nutrition deficit of potassium, but going to a doc is a must because it could be a congenital muscular or neurological problem. That you've experienced those symptoms for a long time implies that you either eat very poorly on the regular or you're not able to utilize potassium properly for some reason. If you're not inclined to go or the cost is prohibitive you could consume a banana with each meal for a week and 2 before bedtime and see if your symptoms persist. If they do persist AT ALL after a week or don't improve in the slightest after a couple days go asap.

I've been blood tested for many things due to my previous sleep issues. I don't have any deficiencies that they know of.

Also, due to my massive intake of Gatorade/Powerade and meat, and Milk, I wouldn't suspect I'd be low on Potassium, like you mentioned, or on magnesium, like LuciferX mentioned. The combination of severe memory issues and muscular issues and sleep issues smells a little like fibromayalgia to me. And the fact that all of it is continuously getting worse, makes it seem degenerative like fibromayalgia. But hey, now I'm starting to sound like I spent hours on WebMD. So I'm just gonna go get a professional opinion lol

Thank you all very much for your input.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on May 17, 2016, 12:05:57 am
Good luck. Hope you're not dying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2016, 10:47:29 pm
So, I got this shitty email from my boss today:

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From: My manager
Sent: 14 May 2016 16:48
To: my co-worker; Me
Cc: Department manager
Subject: Unauthorised visitors

Hi Cain's co-worker/Cain,
 
On viewing the CCTV footage today at 01:41am [student name] (6a) walked pass reception with a unauthorised visitor.
 
On viewing the footage from this time through till gone 03:00am neither of you lifted you head at any time to engage with any student.
 
Please can you both write a statement as to why during the course of your shift you have both neglected to engage with students either entering or departing the building.
 
We have a duty of care towards all students who reside here –
 
I have spoken with the student who initially denied this, after approaching her again she admitted she snuck her friend in, in the early hours of this morning, the student will be permitted anymore visitors this month and all future request from her will be vetted by myself.
 
Cain – please discuss with Cain's co-worker when next on shift my requirements surrounding this issue also, you more than anyone should know my expectations surrounding this.
 
I will be arranging meeting with you both shortly.
 
Regards

As you can imagine, that didn't put me in a good mood.  Here are my drafted responses (if you have any critiques, please feel free to add them)

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Dear Manager,

Firstly, thank you for your email pointing this out.  It is indeed unfortunate that an unauthorized guest slipped by on one of my shifts.

However, I would like to pose a few questions and raise some concerns in regard to this.

Firstly, you mention wanting a statement from my co-worker and myself, and having a meeting.  Is this part of a formal disciplinary procedure against either of us?

My co-worker has sent you her account of the night's events.  For the record, I was on my break from 0100 to 0300, and thus was not present in order to see what happened or form a response.  I had both a charged walkie-talkie and my mobile to hand, and upon return I asked my co-worker if there had been any issues, to which she responded there had not, only a few residents returning.  Please consider this my formal statement as to the events of that night.

More broadly, I would like to note I have mentioned, more than once, in person and via email my concerns about our current system for accounting for guests.  For the sake of reference, please see my "Concerns" email on January 7th.  All the concerns about guests I have put there continue to be valid, and have not been addressed.

I specifically mentioned, for example, the impossibility of being able to recognise all students, or be sure that students in large numbers are all residents without further processes being put in place.  I frequently see students I do not recognise but are residents here - I have seen 6 just this evening, by way of example.  Am I to detain students until I can ascertain their identity by their key or their passport photo?  If not, how do you propose we are to identify non-residents?  And how are we to balance this against the students right to privacy and freedom from undue scrutiny?

Furthermore, I did stress the importance of recognising students in regards to making sure only authorised persons are permitted to the building, when training my co-worker.  It was one of the first things I told her, and I have impressed on her a number of times since then how importantly it is taken by the College, including by discussing what happened regarding [fired guy].  My co-worker raised concerns about how to recognise resident students with myself on the first night, to which I did not have a good reply...because I am still waiting on one from my January email.

If you wish to see evidence of this, you can look to an incident earlier on the same night as this one, where my co-worker alerted me to a guest going past reception with a friend without signing in.  I raced to apprehend the guest, bring them back to reception, sign them in and explain the rules to them (the resident was 13C, whose English is, as you know, exceptionally poor, so I decided explaining to the guest would be easier).  I even mentioned to my co-worker that I was considering putting signs up in reception to remind students that their guests must sign in (which unfortunately I did not get around to that night).  This is one of a number of incidents I could discuss...all of which I note, have not been mentioned, in preference for discussing a single failure.  I do not consider this to be a balanced approach, to put it mildly.

in addition to the above, I have been mentioning security issues regarding the building and access for the better part of a year now.  If you wish precise dates and examples, I am willing to provide, though I will remind you I did offer the college the opportunity to use my services as a security analyst and professional before now, an offer which has yet to be accepted.

I sincerely hope this is a one off case, and of course my co-worker and myself will be more vigilant to the possibility of unauthorized guests in the future, but these issues will persist without a system in place to better prevent them.  Given the less than ideal circumstances we are subjected to, I do think we have done rather well thus far and so this kind of email is not necessary.

Regards,

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Dear Manager and Department Head,

On a more personal level, I do not appreciate my dedication to the wellbeing and safeguarding of the students in this building being questioned or slyly implicated as not up to par.

As mentioned in my previous email, I have raised time and time again issues relating to security and access, only to be ignored.  I have raised concerns that the set-up of this building is not conducive to being able to offer the full support to students that would be ideal, even on a practical level.

Not only that, I have spent my own free time, money and holiday time on training specific to security, radicalisation and other issues of key importance in a pastoral setting - at no cost whatsoever to the college.  I have gone out of my way on several occasions to offer my advice and expertise on these subjects, only to have them not be followed up upon or entirely dismissed out of hand.  It is not my attitude or dedication to the safeguarding of students that requires further examination.

If you feel my commitment to these issues is not up to standard, then I question why I was chosen for the role of Senior House Parent.  I am not happy to be working in an environment where my principal managers appear to not trust my competency, training, ability or dedication.

As you may have noticed, I am not very happy about the tone of this email, nor the comments directed specifically at myself.  I consider them to be a slur on my professional reputation, out of proportion to the incident at hand and purposefully ignoring my record of success, and I am considering how I want to officially respond at this time.

I am not unresponsive to deserved criticism or suggestions for improvement, but I do not feel this is either.

Regards,
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 17, 2016, 11:04:54 pm
Woooo! Run that poison pen dry!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2016, 11:12:35 pm
I'll have a play tomorrow if you want. The word "clearly" needs to be in there more and I'd consider just bolting most of the second into the first.

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If you feel my commitment to these issues is not up to standard, then I question why I was chosen for the role of Senior House Parent.  I am not happy to be working in an environment where my principal managers appear to not trust my competency, training, ability or dedication.Given that I am suitably qualified and experienced for this role and the fact of the matter is that there is no apparent failing on my and my colleagues part, I do not accept or appreciate such insinuations or back handed allegations. I would expect a suitably qualified and experienced Manager to be able to approach employees about such matters before resorting to e-mail. I am very concious that email can be a time consuming chore which would explain why I have still not had your formal response to my email of the 7th of Jan. I have attached this again for your reference and formally request your response in full within the next working day as these are matters of the utmost importance and materially affect the safety of staff and students under your duty of care

You're being way, way, way too nice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2016, 11:20:05 pm
Own time/money etc. also needs a note about no reimbursement and an approximate total cost to date (will/can not be refuted and useful to record legally)

Also, why the fuck were they watching CCTV? If nothing happened then there is literally no reason to ever look at it unless they're just trying to check on you.

It stinks to fuck. The only sensible thing to do is block the exits, pour the petrol and start flicking matches until enough money appears to make you want to fuck off.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2016, 11:22:39 pm
Regarding CCTV, despite what the email says, the unauthorized guest departed at 1500 the next day, so presumably that is what started the look at the recordings.

I'm not sure if I want to go to DEFCON1 just yet...I was hoping a few months to save up, slim down then look at the job and housing market before making a move.  But I'm not adverse to the idea, or to at least implying I will.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2016, 11:33:54 pm
I'll remind you of the value that Game theory places on threats.

I'm sure if you took the "Burn everything" route you've got plenty to fuck them with. I'd suggest it may actually be worth grabbing a brief or two for a chat as if you're able to burn it there's a damn good chance they'll just pay you to sign a NDA and fuck off.

And hey, if not, bonfire.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2016, 11:36:20 pm
Very true.  And while escalation before hasn't helped with optimal goals, it has had the effect of causing them to back down.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 17, 2016, 11:36:31 pm
My only thoughts were to perhaps remove the parenthetical about linguistic ability of that one student as irrelevant unless they should need to inquire for some strange reason, and also that a request to also review the footage of this "incident" is in order.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 18, 2016, 12:30:55 am
My only thoughts were to perhaps remove the parenthetical about linguistic ability of that one student as irrelevant unless they should need to inquire for some strange reason, and also that a request to also review the footage of this "incident" is in order.

I'd say keep that in and emphasise it. It demonstrates inattention to student ability to understand a system, lack of remedial action to rectify despite notification, possibly a persistent problem, failure to cater for non-english languge needs, raising a minor issue while wilfully ignoring more serious safety concerns and a whole lot more bullshit I could dream up after sleep too.

If you could type up something nicely complementary to yourself in their native language and get them to sign it (Bribe the little shit if needs be) then that alone would be enough to terrify and crucify them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2016, 12:38:15 am
Well, I know he knows that student has virtually no English...but as you say, it's a reminder of several other problems.

I also think I'm going to mention being undermined in front of my own member of staff.  The first email was addressed to both my co-worker and myself, and so is pretty clearly an attempt to "put me in my place" under the guise of telling me how to do my job and disciplining her.

Can't say I'm a fan of that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 18, 2016, 12:48:00 am
Fuck these people. It's office dominance bullshit instead of actually doing their fucking job and fixing the problems. Or their job is to ignore said problems which gets me back to "Fuck these people".

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2016, 01:12:37 am
I drove myself to the mountain today, on account of waking up late.

Made it on time, whatever.

On the way home, I noticed that the route I took was 90 miles and had exactly 3 stop lights (2 of them crossing the interstate), and 2 stop signs.  That's it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 18, 2016, 01:38:29 am
That's either a beautiful drive or horrible deathtrap. Possibly both.


Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2016, 01:42:11 am
That's either a beautiful drive or horrible deathtrap. Possibly both.

Both.  Bigass empty desert.  Basically, I cross the mountains on the North end of Tucson, and drive down Sandario road - dips, curves, almost always empty, then onto the main drag for about 10 miles.  Then 12 miles up the mountain.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2016, 01:56:24 am
Right about now, a bigass mountain is looking mighty tempting, I'm not going to lie.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2016, 03:53:19 am
Right about now, a bigass mountain is looking mighty tempting, I'm not going to lie.

It has the advantage of being 58 miles from my boss's office.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 18, 2016, 07:07:36 am
Mercury will soon be out of retrograde.  I just keep telling myself that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 18, 2016, 04:31:15 pm
Mercury will soon be out of retrograde.  I just keep telling myself that.

Or you could just stop believing in astrology.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 18, 2016, 04:34:50 pm
Mercury will soon be out of retrograde.  I just keep telling myself that.

Or you could just stop believing in astrology.

(http://byt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mic-Drop.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2016, 06:37:14 pm
I've been informed by my co-worker, who is doing some overtime this evening before the start of shift, that my boss has considerably backed down on his statements via email.

That said, he appeared in the office about 25 minutes ago, so...we shall see.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 18, 2016, 07:01:04 pm
I have swallowed so much mucus over the course of this cold it's affecting my entire digestive tract.

YOU'RE ALL WELCOME.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 18, 2016, 11:40:06 pm
So my efforts to move myself out were unintentionally aided by the timing of how things happened to play out. The middle of May is apparently the time that the city of LaCrosse sets aside for students moving out to deposit furniture on the curb. It turns into something of a swap meet. I myself got a very fine, spine supportive single mattress perfect for my new accomodations. Much of my own stuff was salvaged from the area by me or various friends, so really I'm just putting back what was borrowed mostly.

By the time it's all done I should have my "life" down to a few boxes of personal essentials and keepsakes. That seems to be the mode of my life. Expand and get comfortable until once again I shed down and shuffle around. Think I'm not going to let myself get so comfortable this time and keep my shit light and mobile. It seems that settling in is really very bad for my health mentally and physically.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on May 19, 2016, 04:11:42 am
Yay. I get to sleep with a gun this week.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2016, 05:30:42 am
Yay. I get to sleep with a gun this week.

This might help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MSTQ1073T0
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 19, 2016, 09:40:19 am
Mercury will soon be out of retrograde.  I just keep telling myself that.

Or you could just stop believing in astrology.

(http://byt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Mic-Drop.gif)
Maybe I'll drop my 300 class today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2016, 02:31:14 pm
What If There Was A Dubstep Song But Instead Of The Drop There Was Just The Seinfeld Theme Song? (https://thump.vice.com/en_au/track/what-if-there-was-a-dubstep-song-but-instead-of-the-drop-there-was-just-the-seinfeld-theme-song-is-the-most-important-song-of-the-decade?utm_source=thumpfbanz&utm_campaign=global)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2016, 05:01:29 pm
Emote?

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13226880_10206621448799004_4126219723628136474_n.jpg?oh=c46c9af0131521287ed2e7f73aec6418&oe=57D56399)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2016, 06:10:12 pm
So, Windows 10 attempted to install on my computer without my permission.

That was...fun.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2016, 06:43:38 pm
So, Windows 10 attempted to install on my computer without my permission.

That was...fun.

It is now an unlabeled "recommended upgrade".   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2016, 11:27:55 pm
So, Windows 10 attempted to install on my computer without my permission.

That was...fun.

It is now an unlabeled "recommended upgrade".   :lulz:

Yeah, after some internet trawling once I uninstalled the spyware, I found a couple of articles to that effect.

Thanks, Microsoft!  I love spending my break time at work uninstalling shit.

Speaking of work, after my boss' hilarious backpedaling yesterday, he for some reason felt it appropriate to send me this email:

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Hi Both,
 
Many thanks for taking the time to meet with me yesterday evening to discuss the unauthorised visitor concerns.
 
You have both made me aware you have a good working relationship with one another and that you are happy working the night shifts with no medical or emotional concerns with your current shift pattern of work.
 
I would just like to reiterate the college/accommodation responsibilities are quite clear when are dealing with students, engagement awareness being the key factors here.
 
Please ensure when especially manning the front reception desk that we remain visual, attentive and engaging to all who are entering and departing the building 24hrs a day.
 
We cannot afford to allow unauthorised personnel into the building, we have a duty of care to all that reside here and must do our upmost to protect  -
 
·         We are to monitor guests to the residence, ensuring all guest leave at the appointed time – All overnight guest to be valid, signed off and documented  accordingly.
 
Any further incidences’ of this nature may well lead to a more serious and formal outcome.

Emphasis in the original.

When I asked, I was informed yesterday this was not an official disciplinary meeting or process.  So I'm unsure exactly how I should respond to the above.  I'm torn between giving it all the merit it deserves by emailing it to my backup email address and deleting it, or responding in some petty, vindictive manner.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2016, 02:00:51 am
So, Windows 10 attempted to install on my computer without my permission.

That was...fun.

It is now an unlabeled "recommended upgrade".   :lulz:

Yeah, after some internet trawling once I uninstalled the spyware, I found a couple of articles to that effect.

Thanks, Microsoft!  I love spending my break time at work uninstalling shit.

Speaking of work, after my boss' hilarious backpedaling yesterday, he for some reason felt it appropriate to send me this email:

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Hi Both,
 
Many thanks for taking the time to meet with me yesterday evening to discuss the unauthorised visitor concerns.
 
You have both made me aware you have a good working relationship with one another and that you are happy working the night shifts with no medical or emotional concerns with your current shift pattern of work.
 
I would just like to reiterate the college/accommodation responsibilities are quite clear when are dealing with students, engagement awareness being the key factors here.
 
Please ensure when especially manning the front reception desk that we remain visual, attentive and engaging to all who are entering and departing the building 24hrs a day.
 
We cannot afford to allow unauthorised personnel into the building, we have a duty of care to all that reside here and must do our upmost to protect  -
 
·         We are to monitor guests to the residence, ensuring all guest leave at the appointed time – All overnight guest to be valid, signed off and documented  accordingly.
 
Any further incidences’ of this nature may well lead to a more serious and formal outcome.

Emphasis in the original.

When I asked, I was informed yesterday this was not an official disciplinary meeting or process.  So I'm unsure exactly how I should respond to the above.  I'm torn between giving it all the merit it deserves by emailing it to my backup email address and deleting it, or responding in some petty, vindictive manner.

well, you know my vote.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Sung Low on May 20, 2016, 04:35:15 am
Arse. I could do with getting stoned. I've gotten ten barrelfulls of drunk the last couple of years, and it did help me to sharpen my brain down to a point, but I'm done with the anger and depression it brings with it. I am TEN TONS OF LOVE, wrapped up in MEATSACK OF HATE ANd BILE when I could be 100 Tons of HATE tempered by a billion hugs OF YOUR FINEST UNdERSTAdING. Shitting meatbags. Why should I care? I care because I do. I have a city full of targets and no focus. drinking has now become a distraction, a detraction from who I am. I ain't no stoner either, but I do miss that feeling. I hate their soporific idea of love.

I'd rather you didn't reply.



 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2016, 07:27:27 am
well, you know my vote.

True, and when you put it like that, I almost feel obliged.

Still, with my 5 hours of fuzzy sleep, I think I'm going to nuture this new hatred a bit.  Keep it fresh in my heart until Monday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on May 20, 2016, 07:36:21 am
That... wow that is something.

It almost reads like at attempt to establish a document trail for a reframing of the story which makes boss seem more favorable. Like "If I can just sneak some criticisms in there, some unrequired reminders of basic job requirements, subtly enough that I'm not called out, I can refer to it later as a pattern of issues", if the boss was actual capable of subtlety or scheming at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2016, 07:44:18 am
Yeah.  Sadly for him, I have about 10 times as many emails proving the exact opposite on this issue alone.  :lulz:  "So I cared so little about unauthorized guests I spent an entire night trying to match passport photos to CCTV and read 4 months worth of handovers and sign-in/out forms on this date alone?  Please, do continue." 

More importantly, I (kinda, insofar as I needed the money) cared up until about, oh, the 9th of the May.  If he wanted to pick a fight with me, he picked about the worst time ever to do it.  My plans for this summer are save money, slim down, and look for other jobs, but I can always skip straight to the third if I want.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 21, 2016, 02:31:06 am
Accidentally chugged a sugar-free variant of some fortified beverage today.  Bitterness leveled the heavens and postponed all flights scheduled for today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 21, 2016, 04:07:39 am
Might move to Wisconsin, should be interesting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pergamos on May 21, 2016, 05:04:33 am
That... wow that is something.

It almost reads like at attempt to establish a document trail for a reframing of the story which makes boss seem more favorable. Like "If I can just sneak some criticisms in there, some unrequired reminders of basic job requirements, subtly enough that I'm not called out, I can refer to it later as a pattern of issues", if the boss was actual capable of subtlety or scheming at all.

The monitoring of guests and ensuring that they leave on time, and so forth, suggest to me that you should be making all students sign in, or at least check in with he desk on entering and exiting, but I have always been a fan f over applying the rules to the detriment of actual performance when faced with stupid from management.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2016, 09:56:51 am
We used to have a system like that...but the colleges whined (because the students whined about the great unfairness of having to sign in and out) and the system got scrapped.

Ever since then, I've asked on a monthly basis how I am meant to determine who isn't a resident without interrogating everyone who enters.  I have not been given a sufficient answer.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 21, 2016, 10:30:05 am
Here's one for fun:

ID cards and a swipe in/out system with punitive financial penalties for not signing in/out guests.


Obviously that's totally impossible or unworkable into something that would actually fit the fucking purpose. I assume you have mentioned the concept of "fire" and "headcounts after evacuation" and "finding an unknown kid burnt to death because you have neglected control of the simplest and most immediate part of building management being bad for business".

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2016, 10:46:26 am
Apparently my initial suggestions along those lines are "too robust"  :lulz:

I mean, we could just replace the inner door with a ID-operated turnstile...like the ones they have in the actual college itself.  But that's probably too "robust" as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 21, 2016, 06:52:10 pm
At my GF's college, they have an ID operated door, and you have to sign every guest in on weekends. Except that no one gives a shit, and you can wait outside the door until someone opens it for you from the inside or outside. And no one will ask questions as long as you look like a teacher, student, anyone from age 15 to 30 anyone.

But seriously, ID operated Turnstile is straight up genius. That like, fills every single demand that they had...

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 22, 2016, 01:26:51 am
If you see Suu on Facebook, congratulate her.  She just got her masters degree.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 24, 2016, 05:35:55 am
Might move to Wisconsin, should be interesting.

How far into Wisconsin? You its best not go to Richland Center center in an unenclosed vehicle, and the area known as The Pines should be avoided at all costs! The Dells, however, live up to all of the hype and then some.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 24, 2016, 08:59:36 am
If you see Suu on Facebook, congratulate her.  She just got her masters degree.

Could someone do that on my behalf please? I'm still abstaining from such things and while this is excellent news nothing is likey to break the embargo
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 24, 2016, 12:06:14 pm
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on May 25, 2016, 07:18:58 am
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on May 25, 2016, 07:33:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/sRtvaZk.png)

My contract is just about over and I don't have another job lined up.

In the eloquent words of Reggie Watts, "Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck."

I can now design, develop, and deploy full stack web apps though. And I've got a few promising leads, but still....

:cpd:

I'm going to get into bots pretty soon, applied to my own company but it looks like that one's ripe pickings for consultancy if that's your bag. All the big players have bot projects in the pipeline and (unlike wi the internet) we have the infrastructure here already and everyone is already connected to so there's no technological barriers to adoption like last time round.

If I was looking to freelance, I'd be getting in early and trying to get a couple of projects under my belt, targeting businesses and hooking a bot into their booking/ordering/erp/whatever system. The use cases as far as I can see are damn near any scenario which currently benefits from having a computer system in the first place.

As Kevin Kelly said - "Take X and add AI"


Are there any Python bot frameworks that you'd recommend looking into?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 25, 2016, 10:14:04 am
Never been near python so I couldn't really say. Been reading up on tensorflow (https://www.tensorflow.org/) but, tbh, it's kinda got me mystified for the time being. This AI shit is so different from programming I'm having a hard time getting my head around it. Apples and oranges doesn't even begin to describe it, more like comparing apples to talking jellyfish  :eek:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 25, 2016, 12:32:43 pm
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 25, 2016, 06:08:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/sRtvaZk.png)

My contract is just about over and I don't have another job lined up.

In the eloquent words of Reggie Watts, "Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck. Ficketty fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck."

I can now design, develop, and deploy full stack web apps though. And I've got a few promising leads, but still....

:cpd:

I'm going to get into bots pretty soon, applied to my own company but it looks like that one's ripe pickings for consultancy if that's your bag. All the big players have bot projects in the pipeline and (unlike wi the internet) we have the infrastructure here already and everyone is already connected to so there's no technological barriers to adoption like last time round.

If I was looking to freelance, I'd be getting in early and trying to get a couple of projects under my belt, targeting businesses and hooking a bot into their booking/ordering/erp/whatever system. The use cases as far as I can see are damn near any scenario which currently benefits from having a computer system in the first place.

As Kevin Kelly said - "Take X and add AI"


Are there any Python bot frameworks that you'd recommend looking into?
I was thinking there's Theano, with the Lasagne extension from nolearn.  And also pyCaffe, the python module of Caffe.  Theano's relatively easy to install, Caffe's faster, particularly when run from binary, though compiling it is not "for the faint of heart" (shit-ton of dependencies)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 06:09:25 pm
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE

 :lulz: that's ingenious!

The best cure for the horrible absurdities of life is.... MORE FOOKINABSURDITYUPTO11!!! GOBBLE GOOBLE GUBULULUB

The turkey curse is the great tester of persons! Most of them are unworthy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Da6s on May 25, 2016, 06:14:34 pm
Driving out to CO on Friday for 2 weeks to gauge if I could stand moving back or not. Very heavily leaning towards yes, but the 2 weeks + the drive in that span will determine it for me.

It's a shitty schrodinger-esque situation unfortunately. If his cancer worsens & he's gone in 2 years, i'll hate myself if i move but i'd be happy if i stayed. If he's still around in 5 years, I'd hate myself if i stayed but be happy if I moved.

Having the new car which can do the drive helps my thoughts that i'll be able to drive back more often than i did the first 5 years i was in CO. Sigh. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 25, 2016, 08:31:15 pm
Might move to Wisconsin, should be interesting.

How far into Wisconsin? You its best not go to Richland Center center in an unenclosed vehicle, and the area known as The Pines should be avoided at all costs! The Dells, however, live up to all of the hype and then some.

Madison.

My sister went to college in Richland Center so  ... yeah  those things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 25, 2016, 08:45:15 pm
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE

 :lulz: that's ingenious!

The best cure for the horrible absurdities of life is.... MORE FOOKINABSURDITYUPTO11!!! GOBBLE GOOBLE GUBULULUB

The turkey curse is the great tester of persons! Most of them are unworthy.

Was no ta turkey curse reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q2F_18cjg
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 08:45:46 pm
Might move to Wisconsin, should be interesting.

How far into Wisconsin? You its best not go to Richland Center center in an unenclosed vehicle, and the area known as The Pines should be avoided at all costs! The Dells, however, live up to all of the hype and then some.

Madison.

My sister went to college in Richland Center so  ... yeah  those things.

Madison is a pretty cool town. I was considering moving there when I eventually quit LaX since it's halfway between here and my hometown Racine. I'm not sure that's what I want to really DO though. I might try and set up in a new state. I've been in 'Sconsin all my damn life and really don't want that to be all I've seen before I die.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 25, 2016, 08:48:52 pm
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE

 :lulz: that's ingenious!

The best cure for the horrible absurdities of life is.... MORE FOOKINABSURDITYUPTO11!!! GOBBLE GOOBLE GUBULULUB

The turkey curse is the great tester of persons! Most of them are unworthy.

Was no ta turkey curse reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q2F_18cjg

That's pretty awesome! I never knew where the whole "one of us. One of us" thing came from. What's the title of that film?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2016, 09:16:25 pm
Back in Texas, despite promising myself I'd never return.

Bad science, random Prada, and the sudden realization that LMNO is ten times sexier than I previously believed (which I would not have thought possible).

Pictures and details forthcoming, if I make it back.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 25, 2016, 09:58:42 pm
Someone at my workplace was consulted on the Silicon Valley show and created probably the best paper to come form the company ever:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/228831637/Optimal-Tip-to-Tip-Efficiency (https://www.scribd.com/doc/228831637/Optimal-Tip-to-Tip-Efficiency)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 02:02:09 am
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE

 :lulz: that's ingenious!

The best cure for the horrible absurdities of life is.... MORE FOOKINABSURDITYUPTO11!!! GOBBLE GOOBLE GUBULULUB

The turkey curse is the great tester of persons! Most of them are unworthy.

Was no ta turkey curse reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q2F_18cjg

That's pretty awesome! I never knew where the whole "one of us. One of us" thing came from. What's the title of that film?

"Freaks"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 02:02:41 am
Back in Texas, despite promising myself I'd never return.

Bad science, random Prada, and the sudden realization that LMNO is ten times sexier than I previously believed (which I would not have thought possible).

Pictures and details forthcoming, if I make it back.

I am so waiting for these pics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 26, 2016, 02:33:02 am
I got dumped (not the husband). I've never gotten dumped before. This sucks and I hate it.

Ah, the story of my life. Sorry to hear that you're one of us now.

GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE

 :lulz: that's ingenious!

The best cure for the horrible absurdities of life is.... MORE FOOKINABSURDITYUPTO11!!! GOBBLE GOOBLE GUBULULUB

The turkey curse is the great tester of persons! Most of them are unworthy.

Was no ta turkey curse reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1q2F_18cjg

That's pretty awesome! I never knew where the whole "one of us. One of us" thing came from. What's the title of that film?

"Freaks"

Thanks!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on May 26, 2016, 06:11:14 am
One of my bar patrons, one I was pretty friendly with, killed himself on Saturday. I just found out an hour ago.

The last time I saw him we had an argument, and I never got to rectify that situation. He left the bar angry, saying he wasn't going to come back when I was working (he was drunk, and this wasn't uncommon for him). My last words to him were: You'll be back; this is the Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

But he never came back.

And now I'm left with wishing I hadn't tried to be funny.

Him killing himself had nothing to do with that incident, at least I don't think so.  I hope not. The last time I saw him was almost a month ago, certainly lots had transpired in that time.

I wish people wouldn't kill themselves.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 26, 2016, 08:08:39 am
Me too. Sorry to hear that Hoopla. I think it's fairly safe to say that unless there was a distinct mention of you personally in a note or something he wasn't thinking about you at all and likely would have done the thing having never known you. I know that the point is your sense of regret at that last interaction, but I'd like to shore up your perspective there.

As to saying regrettable things that you can't take back not long before you lose someone, been there. There's nothing nice to say about it. I was about 15 when I confessed to my grandfather that I had, for years by then, been putting no effort into school and just barely passing things on my ability to take tests. I was hoping for his help on some level, but I could see that he was angry and clearly disappointed. He just didn't have much to say, after the fashion of an old Roman in such a state. He just dropped me off when he got me home and I never got to bring it up again. My memory of the exact amount of time that passed is hazy, but within a month or 2 he passed from a sudden coronary.

It's hard to weigh what is regrettable to say against what might be regrettable to not say.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 26, 2016, 10:29:46 am
Me three.  On the flip side, instead of retroactively explaining the behaviour as a disparaging attempt at being funny, it seems more like the direct result of an accurate, however indeterminate, understanding of the situation.  Although it may have seemed like an uncalled-for provocation, the response was in itself neither out of place, nor casulally sufficient to explain what followed.  I'm still sorry too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on May 26, 2016, 04:34:11 pm
I really shouldn't have even implied that interaction had anything to do with it. He had a lot of problems: had recently been fired, felt he was getting financially gouged by his ex, and was diagnosed with a debilitating disease.

That last encounter was fairly standard for our relationship. He would get shitfaced, say something stupid, I would challenge it, and he would leave. That last time ended with him calling me racist because I disagreed with what "wog" meant in England. I wasn't going to not challenge that, so he went off in a huff.  Unfortunately, that happened to be my last encounter with him. I wish I had reacted at least slightly differently that time. Oh well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 04:38:20 pm
Sucks.  So it goes.

Maybe get a small plaque for him, hang it in the bar or something?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Hoopla! on May 26, 2016, 05:07:10 pm
Sucks.  So it goes.

Maybe get a small plaque for him, hang it in the bar or something?

I could do that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2016, 06:19:17 pm
Currently taking bets on someone breaking into my flat while I'm away this weekend.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 06:26:49 pm
67%, with no additional priors.


Have you done something extra special to annoy your charges lately?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2016, 06:45:40 pm
Which charges are we talking about, the students or management?  :lol:

In the case of the former, I've had to oversee the departure of one student, I've harassed another 11 or so about their disgusting fridges, I've not let one have an extra blanket because his wife is staying over for a couple of days, I told 3 they couldn't smoke in the carpark and that they have to go to the designated smoking area, I've had to chase up and talk to another 2 about the late night guest policy and why making me run all over the building looking for them at kicking out time is not going to win my love and affection, I've kicked out at least 4 dividers being used to hold the self-locking fire doors open because apparently carrying a key is a huge burden, I was given blatantly obvious information to give to a student who had already been given the same information at least 4 times earlier that day and I've had to tell two fast food delivery guys to shove off after being exceptionally rude to my assistant in reception when they couldn't see me in the office (and thus thought she was on her own), I've indirectly led to 3 students getting a final warning for smoking, and I've gone to great lengths to explain when another 16 students are being kicked out and what they need to do.

That would be the last 3 days.

I haven't done anything especially to annoy management, except point out how no-one else in this building except me is apparently capable of filing and updating paperwork without their hand being held and a step-by-step guide being produced for it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2016, 06:47:17 pm
Oh, I did use the accomodation service to get my suit cleaned.  My boss is aware of this, and is likely paranoid I have a job interview, going by his recent behaviour.

I don't, but he doesn't need to know that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2016, 07:13:55 pm
I'm not quite at TGRR levels of being able to upset people yet, but on the other hand, wounding the inner child of teenagers is much easier, especially when they let it loose so often.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2016, 07:14:51 pm
Upgrading to 71%.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2016, 07:26:55 pm
You know, it's not easy to find designs for door-activated traps which definitely won't kill people.

Admittedly, this could be because I have liked a thousand terrorist manuals on my HD, and non-lethal options usually aren't of much interest in those circles.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 26, 2016, 07:58:53 pm
I was going to suggest a photographic trap, and/or wiring tungsten trip-wires at different heights/angles throughout flat.  Hook wires to large capacitors set to charge from car batteries.  Have system engage when door opens.  Maybe some strobe lighting, for effect
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on May 26, 2016, 10:29:47 pm
You know, it's not easy to find designs for door-activated traps which definitely won't kill people.

Admittedly, this could be because I have liked a thousand terrorist manuals on my HD, and non-lethal options usually aren't of much interest in those circles.

Rube Goldbergian snap mouse trap field?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 26, 2016, 11:23:26 pm
You know, it's not easy to find designs for door-activated traps which definitely won't kill people.

Admittedly, this could be because I have liked a thousand terrorist manuals on my HD, and non-lethal options usually aren't of much interest in those circles.

You need a surveillance trap. Rigging the door, even non lethally, is all well and good, but it's unlawful at best. If you can get a disposable camera those can often be set up to take a single pick with some fishing line, a ruler, a wall eyelet or two, some basic geometry, and a mousetrap. Just be sure you rig it to trigger when the door is about 3/4 open. Hopefully their hand will still be on the handle and face visible. This may seem too obvious but NO FLASH, not just for light but also sound.

 Your best bet would still be a digi with motion detection if you have access to such. Evidence of unlawful access to your place would be the best you can legally do.

If you want to be a dick though, be sure to leave a mark. Liquid henna, and a small CO2 cartridge can do a lot for real cheap.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2016, 11:25:24 pm
I'm not quite at TGRR levels of being able to upset people yet, but on the other hand, wounding the inner child of teenagers is much easier, especially when they let it loose so often.

Two days ago, I learned three things you don't say to Bethany in an airlock.  :banana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2016, 11:27:38 pm
Back in Texas, despite promising myself I'd never return.

Bad science, random Prada, and the sudden realization that LMNO is ten times sexier than I previously believed (which I would not have thought possible).

Pictures and details forthcoming, if I make it back.

I am so waiting for these pics.

Our director is deciding which ones I can have.  I might have them tonight, Tuesday at latest.

P3nt is gonna shit.  The BAT/HET has 91 secondary 1 meter mirrors.  It's like having sex with all of the founding fathers at once.

On the down side, I spent most of Tuesday in a pressure suit. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2016, 11:31:01 pm
Note to self:  allow forced air certs to expire.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 28, 2016, 02:12:40 am
So I got a hair up my butt after Nigel linked to this article on FB.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/26/dear-offended-christian-from-a-very-tired-christian/ (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/26/dear-offended-christian-from-a-very-tired-christian/)

There was a specific point made about there being NO teachings from Jesus in the Gospels, and this sort of hit a sore spot for me. My question centers around a small but possibly very significant use of language that may be a fairly huge thing. Here's the write up as I have it down for now.

As to sincere opinions please fire away. I'm not attached to the perspective quite so personally as I used to be. I DO want to construct this from within the Christian perspective ultimately, but that's on me.
_____

I sympathize with the author on pretty much every point, but one of them is very close to the heart of the matter in terms of factional strife.

"I’m tired of reminding you that the number of times Jesus spoke about gender identity and sexual orientation in the Gospels—is zero."

This is not strictly true. In Matthew ch19 from about verses 8-12 Jesus lays down some pretty severe teaching about the spiritual consequences of divorce and when folks be like "That sucks! Better to never marry" Jesus basically says "Yup!" and goes into a bit about eunuchs as an aside.

 As far as Jesus' actual teachings clearly went he says abstinence to focus on the spiritual exclusively is best, but, hey, clearly not for everyone. He uses that to approach the subject of the eunuch then delineates the three basic sorts, those so born, so made by others, and some very few who are able to give it up as a spiritual sacrifice, in that order. He makes a point of showing that the status can be inherent, placing it first in description, but spoke most of the willing sort, and barely mentioned the usual kind in the middle. This matters as it demonstrated unmistakably through his language that he was least concerned in his message with the most usual sort of the subject. Yet he only meant "eunuch" in its most common form here say the scholars of "Christianity"!
I do wonder about that.

There's longstanding, highly predictable, argument against this passage possibly applying to homosexuality. The fact is they're correct that Jesus wasn't talking about that... overtly. If he had they'd have stoned him then and there, and he knew that damn well. They try a few times in other places, most notably when he declares "Before Moses was I AM" speaking the forbidden name of God in reply to a Pharisee's challenge of his authority to interpret the law. Christian doctrine states this was him claiming to be God, but there we now differ. I think he was merely stating the simple, terribly dangerous truth. God's authority is greater and older than Moses' law, and so any use of the law that is counter to Love and Truth has none of God's authority, but I digress.

It's worth noting that the Greek word for eunuch is derived from the words for "bed" and "owner" implying all of the sleeping alone a eunuch does. That's in Strong's Concordance if any question that interpretation.  Given Jesus' sense of wordplay and the unapproachable nature of the subject, I'd say "one who's bed is their own" could well describe the person of (then) unorthodox  gender or sexual orientation in a sublime fashion. It follows that if a person can be so born then God must have made them so, and loves them as such. From there we can see that the division never existed. It is and always was a lie, and as such doomed eventually. How's that for an eschaton worth "emmanentizing"?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2016, 03:49:54 am
That's worth a thread of its own.  You want I should split it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2016, 03:54:20 am
I won't have the pics til Tuesday.  when they are available, I will be writing that shit up.

It was kind of the coolest thing ever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 28, 2016, 10:19:21 am
So I got a hair up my butt after Nigel linked to this article on FB.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/26/dear-offended-christian-from-a-very-tired-christian/ (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/26/dear-offended-christian-from-a-very-tired-christian/)

There was a specific point made about there being NO teachings from Jesus in the Gospels, and this sort of hit a sore spot for me. My question centers around a small but possibly very significant use of language that may be a fairly huge thing. Here's the write up as I have it down for now.

As to sincere opinions please fire away. I'm not attached to the perspective quite so personally as I used to be. I DO want to construct this from within the Christian perspective ultimately, but that's on me.
_____

I sympathize with the author on pretty much every point, but one of them is very close to the heart of the matter in terms of factional strife.

"I’m tired of reminding you that the number of times Jesus spoke about gender identity and sexual orientation in the Gospels—is zero."

This is not strictly true. In Matthew ch19 from about verses 8-12 Jesus lays down some pretty severe teaching about the spiritual consequences of divorce and when folks be like "That sucks! Better to never marry" Jesus basically says "Yup!" and goes into a bit about eunuchs as an aside.

 As far as Jesus' actual teachings clearly went he says abstinence to focus on the spiritual exclusively is best, but, hey, clearly not for everyone. He uses that to approach the subject of the eunuch then delineates the three basic sorts, those so born, so made by others, and some very few who are able to give it up as a spiritual sacrifice, in that order. He makes a point of showing that the status can be inherent, placing it first in description, but spoke most of the willing sort, and barely mentioned the usual kind in the middle. This matters as it demonstrated unmistakably through his language that he was least concerned in his message with the most usual sort of the subject. Yet he only meant "eunuch" in its most common form here say the scholars of "Christianity"!
I do wonder about that.

There's longstanding, highly predictable, argument against this passage possibly applying to homosexuality. The fact is they're correct that Jesus wasn't talking about that... overtly. If he had they'd have stoned him then and there, and he knew that damn well. They try a few times in other places, most notably when he declares "Before Moses was I AM" speaking the forbidden name of God in reply to a Pharisee's challenge of his authority to interpret the law. Christian doctrine states this was him claiming to be God, but there we now differ. I think he was merely stating the simple, terribly dangerous truth. God's authority is greater and older than Moses' law, and so any use of the law that is counter to Love and Truth has none of God's authority, but I digress.

It's worth noting that the Greek word for eunuch is derived from the words for "bed" and "owner" implying all of the sleeping alone a eunuch does. That's in Strong's Concordance if any question that interpretation.  Given Jesus' sense of wordplay and the unapproachable nature of the subject, I'd say "one who's bed is their own" could well describe the person of (then) unorthodox  gender or sexual orientation in a sublime fashion. It follows that if a person can be so born then God must have made them so, and loves them as such. From there we can see that the division never existed. It is and always was a lie, and as such doomed eventually. How's that for an eschaton worth "emmanentizing"?

I like it.  Gender and sexual orientation may constitute the format of identity on the physical plane of things, however, and by contradistinction, this is immanently irrelevant to the spiritual. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 28, 2016, 02:05:46 pm
That's worth a thread of its own.  You want I should split it?

Naw. I can repost later if it comes to that. Thanks though! Does the argument seem solid?

I didn't make this to with a will to troll so much as a weapon against the fanatic, that I think happens to be the most likely truth.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 28, 2016, 02:07:28 pm
I won't have the pics til Tuesday.  when they are available, I will be writing that shit up.

It was kind of the coolest thing ever.

Whatever this is about I can't wait to discover what could possibly top all other of the cool things you've seen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 28, 2016, 02:15:36 pm
LuciferX you're right in a distinct sense. A lot of mystics claim that the soul is without inherent gender. It's most common in reincarnation mythology, which I suspect most of the early church held as doctrine until the meddling of Theodora under Emperor Justinian.. I think. Would have to go double check. See if karmic laws still applied after one's "salvation" then a bunch of imperial debauchery starts to make one seem... insincere spiritually. Look up "monophysite heresy" for more.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2016, 07:03:48 pm
I won't have the pics til Tuesday.  when they are available, I will be writing that shit up.

It was kind of the coolest thing ever.

Whatever this is about I can't wait to discover what could possibly top all other of the cool things you've seen.

You'll see.  It's the most amazing thing ever.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 28, 2016, 10:05:07 pm
I won't have the pics til Tuesday.  when they are available, I will be writing that shit up.

It was kind of the coolest thing ever.

Whatever this is about I can't wait to discover what could possibly top all other of the cool things you've seen.

You'll see.  It's the most amazing thing ever.

 :dream:
 :himeobs:

I searched the emotes for something more meaningful and positive than *curiosity intensifies beyond wonderment, dammit*
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 29, 2016, 12:23:05 am
LuciferX you're right in a distinct sense. A lot of mystics claim that the soul is without inherent gender. It's most common in reincarnation mythology, which I suspect most of the early church held as doctrine until the meddling of Theodora under Emperor Justinian.. I think. Would have to go double check. See if karmic laws still applied after one's "salvation" then a bunch of imperial debauchery starts to make one seem... insincere spiritually. Look up "monophysite heresy" for more.
Right-on.  I find this very interesting.  Without leveraging the political aspect, perhaps we might invoke Tertullian to reconcile the whole mono-dyo disjunction with a dose of trinitarian doctrine, which would tend toward resolving these differences in a synthesis that perhaps even radically changes the very nature of "before and after", as it also may have done to above and below.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 29, 2016, 05:47:29 am
LuciferX you're right in a distinct sense. A lot of mystics claim that the soul is without inherent gender. It's most common in reincarnation mythology, which I suspect most of the early church held as doctrine until the meddling of Theodora under Emperor Justinian.. I think. Would have to go double check. See if karmic laws still applied after one's "salvation" then a bunch of imperial debauchery starts to make one seem... insincere spiritually. Look up "monophysite heresy" for more.
Right-on.  I find this very interesting.  Without leveraging the political aspect, perhaps we might invoke Tertullian to reconcile the whole mono-dyo disjunction with a dose of trinitarian doctrine, which would tend toward resolving these differences in a synthesis that perhaps even radically changes the very nature of "before and after", as it also may have done to above and below.

Don't know anything about Tertullian. Also... I'm sketchy about trinities. I just got out of a long term relationship with one and I'm leery about diving back in so soon. I'm still a little sore about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 29, 2016, 07:10:24 am
LuciferX you're right in a distinct sense. A lot of mystics claim that the soul is without inherent gender. It's most common in reincarnation mythology, which I suspect most of the early church held as doctrine until the meddling of Theodora under Emperor Justinian.. I think. Would have to go double check. See if karmic laws still applied after one's "salvation" then a bunch of imperial debauchery starts to make one seem... insincere spiritually. Look up "monophysite heresy" for more.
Right-on.  I find this very interesting.  Without leveraging the political aspect, perhaps we might invoke Tertullian to reconcile the whole mono-dyo disjunction with a dose of trinitarian doctrine, which would tend toward resolving these differences in a synthesis that perhaps even radically changes the very nature of "before and after", as it also may have done to above and below.

Don't know anything about Tertullian. Also... I'm sketchy about trinities. I just got out of a long term relationship with one and I'm leery about diving back in so soon. I'm still a little sore about it.
Seems like another story.  The way I'd break it down to them is that there is the corporeal, granted identity by the soul, and predestined by the spirit.  The interrelation of these is both continous and distinct.  They can choose to be offended all they want.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 29, 2016, 03:39:02 pm
LuciferX you're right in a distinct sense. A lot of mystics claim that the soul is without inherent gender. It's most common in reincarnation mythology, which I suspect most of the early church held as doctrine until the meddling of Theodora under Emperor Justinian.. I think. Would have to go double check. See if karmic laws still applied after one's "salvation" then a bunch of imperial debauchery starts to make one seem... insincere spiritually. Look up "monophysite heresy" for more.
Right-on.  I find this very interesting.  Without leveraging the political aspect, perhaps we might invoke Tertullian to reconcile the whole mono-dyo disjunction with a dose of trinitarian doctrine, which would tend toward resolving these differences in a synthesis that perhaps even radically changes the very nature of "before and after", as it also may have done to above and below.

Don't know anything about Tertullian. Also... I'm sketchy about trinities. I just got out of a long term relationship with one and I'm leery about diving back in so soon. I'm still a little sore about it.
Seems like another story.  The way I'd break it down to them is that there is the corporeal, granted identity by the soul, and predestined by the spirit.  The interrelation of these is both continous and distinct.  They can choose to be offended all they want.  :lulz:

Oh.. and they will!! Look at how much shit went down over the whole Akhenaten thing when he got a hard On for monotheism. Fuck, Egypt would kina like to just gloss over the whole period to this day!

Troll level: Demiurge  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 29, 2016, 08:20:58 pm
So, Inland Revenue finally returned the money they over-taxed me for a couple of years back, and I'm looking to spend some of my newly re-acquired wealth on a laptop.

I'm thinking a Dell Inspiron 15.  I mostly want something for travel, word processing and internet browing, but I thought I'd solicit feedback here as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 29, 2016, 10:23:34 pm
With the work email system down yet again, I am writing a proposal that we build a semaphore line between the two college accommodations and the main school office.

Not because I want one implemented, as fun as it would be. But because I cannot abuse the maintenance department and trolling them with this proposal is the next best thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 29, 2016, 10:45:26 pm
With the work email system down yet again, I am writing a proposal that we build a semaphore line between the two college accommodations and the main school office.

Not because I want one implemented, as fun as it would be. But because I cannot abuse the maintenance department and trolling them with this proposal is the next best thing.

I hope they take it like SO SRS BRO! Either rage flouncing or complaining to the wrong folks would be good, actually wasting resources to "look into" something that should be dropped out of hand would be godly!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 29, 2016, 11:13:54 pm
So, Inland Revenue finally returned the money they over-taxed me for a couple of years back, and I'm looking to spend some of my newly re-acquired wealth on a laptop.

I'm thinking a Dell Inspiron 15.  I mostly want something for travel, word processing and internet browing, but I thought I'd solicit feedback here as well.

What's your ideal cost? Also, what is the most you would pay?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 29, 2016, 11:22:07 pm
So, Inland Revenue finally returned the money they over-taxed me for a couple of years back, and I'm looking to spend some of my newly re-acquired wealth on a laptop.

I'm thinking a Dell Inspiron 15.  I mostly want something for travel, word processing and internet browing, but I thought I'd solicit feedback here as well.

What's your ideal cost? Also, what is the most you would pay?

I'm looking at around £500-700 for spending.  Not sure what that is in Trumpbux exactly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 29, 2016, 11:34:43 pm
With the work email system down yet again, I am writing a proposal that we build a semaphore line between the two college accommodations and the main school office.

Not because I want one implemented, as fun as it would be. But because I cannot abuse the maintenance department and trolling them with this proposal is the next best thing.

I hope they take it like SO SRS BRO! Either rage flouncing or complaining to the wrong folks would be good, actually wasting resources to "look into" something that should be dropped out of hand would be godly!

Basically like half my job right now is trolling maintenance.  I like the guy who does most of the actual fixing of stuff, but the guy at the top...he's a typical Engineer Dick ("I know everything because I'm an engineer").  In addition to that, he's a typical army dick ("I know everything because I was in the army").  So he's like two condescending twats in one package.

And since I rarely ever actually have to see him, all my nonsense normally has to be dealt with my boss.  So really it's win-win as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Meunster on May 29, 2016, 11:44:17 pm
Woot finally tamed the windows 10 beast.

No more random windows defender, no cortana spying on me, and no more one note always running.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 29, 2016, 11:48:09 pm
Woot finally tamed the windows 10 beast.

No more random windows defender, no cortana spying on me, and no more one note always running.

You uninstalled Windows 10 as well?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 29, 2016, 11:53:14 pm
With the work email system down yet again, I am writing a proposal that we build a semaphore line between the two college accommodations and the main school office.

Not because I want one implemented, as fun as it would be. But because I cannot abuse the maintenance department and trolling them with this proposal is the next best thing.

I hope they take it like SO SRS BRO! Either rage flouncing or complaining to the wrong folks would be good, actually wasting resources to "look into" something that should be dropped out of hand would be godly!

Basically like half my job right now is trolling maintenance.  I like the guy who does most of the actual fixing of stuff, but the guy at the top...he's a typical Engineer Dick ("I know everything because I'm an engineer").  In addition to that, he's a typical army dick ("I know everything because I was in the army").  So he's like two condescending twats in one package.

And since I rarely ever actually have to see him, all my nonsense normally has to be dealt with my boss.  So really it's win-win as far as I'm concerned.

That's some chessmaster shit!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 30, 2016, 12:05:01 am
So, Inland Revenue finally returned the money they over-taxed me for a couple of years back, and I'm looking to spend some of my newly re-acquired wealth on a laptop.

I'm thinking a Dell Inspiron 15.  I mostly want something for travel, word processing and internet browing, but I thought I'd solicit feedback here as well.

What's your ideal cost? Also, what is the most you would pay?

I'm looking at around £500-700 for spending.  Not sure what that is in Trumpbux exactly.

About 780 Trumpbux if I used Google correctly.

Would you be ok with this laptop being able to game? I'm shooting for most power and functionality for cost.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 30, 2016, 12:09:24 am
Eh, I don't mind.

I mean, I planned on installing Morrowind so I could waste time in the office in a more interesting way, but given how old that game is I'd be surprised if any computer had trouble running it.  So beyond that, I don't especially care.  That said, more power would be helpful for running newer iterations of office, multiple internet browsing tabs etc, so sure, why not.  GPU doesn't need to be flashy, but a nice processor and decent RAM is never bad.

SSD is unnecessary though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 30, 2016, 12:36:45 am
Eh, I don't mind.

I mean, I planned on installing Morrowind so I could waste time in the office in a more interesting way, but given how old that game is I'd be surprised if any computer had trouble running it.  So beyond that, I don't especially care.  That said, more power would be helpful for running newer iterations of office, multiple internet browsing tabs etc, so sure, why not.  GPU doesn't need to be flashy, but a nice processor and decent RAM is never bad.

SSD is unnecessary though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315164

An upgrade from what you were looking at.

Not sure how you feel about Windows 10, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 30, 2016, 12:40:47 am
Well, I'm OK with a new computer having windows 10.  I just don't want it on the desktop, because that is more for games, and I've heard of lots of people having worse performance after upgrading. 

Since Morrowind is literally pixel people with potato frame rates, I'm OK with that.

Edit: Computer specs do look good.  However it's currently unavailable for the UK :(
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 30, 2016, 12:53:21 am
Well, I'm OK with a new computer having windows 10.  I just don't want it on the desktop, because that is more for games, and I've heard of lots of people having worse performance after upgrading. 

Since Morrowind is literally pixel people with potato frame rates, I'm OK with that.

Edit: Computer specs do look good.  However it's currently unavailable for the UK :(

We apologize for the fault in the website. Those responsible have been sacked.

Searching elsewhere while sacking those responsible for sacking the people who've been sacked.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 30, 2016, 06:18:45 pm
Sorry, had to leave work in a hurry last night before I could do some more digging for laptops. Will complete my search as I get time at work today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 30, 2016, 06:25:30 pm
It's cool, no worries.  I appreciate you taking the time to hae a look around.  Apparently a lot has changed since I bought a laptop way back in....2011  :|
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on May 30, 2016, 10:34:49 pm
It's cool, no worries.  I appreciate you taking the time to hae a look around.  Apparently a lot has changed since I bought a laptop way back in....2011  :|

No problem man. I remember looking around for a laptop for my GF awhile back and I found some pretty insane deals. She ended up getting a laptop that, at the time, should have cost about 900-1200 dollars. She got it for just under 500 dollars. Now, at the moment, I can't find any deals that huge. But I am finding a few in your range, or just above, that are pretty awesome.

Take a look at this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ASUS-K501UX-15-6-256GB-SSD-8GB-RAM-I7-6500U-2-5GHz-NVIDIA-950M-WIN-10/272243223291?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D66696318e592491d8ceb4ffe310f0140%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D322051028052)

Gonna put together a little list to choose from of things like this. Will probably compile them in the next post or so. But I'll post a couple as I find them to see if you have any objections.

Which reminds me: Do you prefer Intel or AMD processors? And would you sacrifice a little reliability by getting AMD to get more RAM, Graphics power, or HD space?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 30, 2016, 11:07:12 pm
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 31, 2016, 05:53:55 pm
It's cool, no worries.  I appreciate you taking the time to hae a look around.  Apparently a lot has changed since I bought a laptop way back in....2011  :|

No problem man. I remember looking around for a laptop for my GF awhile back and I found some pretty insane deals. She ended up getting a laptop that, at the time, should have cost about 900-1200 dollars. She got it for just under 500 dollars. Now, at the moment, I can't find any deals that huge. But I am finding a few in your range, or just above, that are pretty awesome.

Take a look at this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ASUS-K501UX-15-6-256GB-SSD-8GB-RAM-I7-6500U-2-5GHz-NVIDIA-950M-WIN-10/272243223291?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D66696318e592491d8ceb4ffe310f0140%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D322051028052)

Gonna put together a little list to choose from of things like this. Will probably compile them in the next post or so. But I'll post a couple as I find them to see if you have any objections.

Which reminds me: Do you prefer Intel or AMD processors? And would you sacrifice a little reliability by getting AMD to get more RAM, Graphics power, or HD space?

I have no real preferences processor wise.  My desktop uses AMD, but previous laptops have used Intel and I've had no problems.  A little bit more RAM is always nice...not so much for gaming, but having multiple tabs on a browser, a word processor running, music playing etc all at once can strain a system.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 31, 2016, 05:54:29 pm
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.

I think the idea is to make you buy a new one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 31, 2016, 06:15:45 pm
It's cool, no worries.  I appreciate you taking the time to hae a look around.  Apparently a lot has changed since I bought a laptop way back in....2011  :|

No problem man. I remember looking around for a laptop for my GF awhile back and I found some pretty insane deals. She ended up getting a laptop that, at the time, should have cost about 900-1200 dollars. She got it for just under 500 dollars. Now, at the moment, I can't find any deals that huge. But I am finding a few in your range, or just above, that are pretty awesome.

Take a look at this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ASUS-K501UX-15-6-256GB-SSD-8GB-RAM-I7-6500U-2-5GHz-NVIDIA-950M-WIN-10/272243223291?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D66696318e592491d8ceb4ffe310f0140%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D322051028052)

Gonna put together a little list to choose from of things like this. Will probably compile them in the next post or so. But I'll post a couple as I find them to see if you have any objections.

Which reminds me: Do you prefer Intel or AMD processors? And would you sacrifice a little reliability by getting AMD to get more RAM, Graphics power, or HD space?

I have no real preferences processor wise.  My desktop uses AMD, but previous laptops have used Intel and I've had no problems.  A little bit more RAM is always nice...not so much for gaming, but having multiple tabs on a browser, a word processor running, music playing etc all at once can strain a system.

Junkie's first rule of IT purchasing - you're never just buying one thing. Consider bullshitting your local PC hole that the "educational establishment that you represent" is looking to purchase 50+ laptops for students along with software/maintenance etc. But first the treasurer wants 1 only to use over the summer to check reliability etc.

You may just be able to bag something a touch above spec for the same cash, done right. (Make sure it's cash so you can "claim it back out of petty cash"). If you get an idiot and a good deal, great. If not, you know exactly what you're looking for online. Also, don't be shy about comparing prices on your phone in front of them. Always a fun reaction, particularly if they're selling it as a good deal.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 31, 2016, 07:31:08 pm
I get fairly good deals on used equipment.  New is meh.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 31, 2016, 07:34:15 pm
Workplace came up with a term "intrepreneur" it makes me angry.  Even more so that it is there to "stimulate interest in millennial employees"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 31, 2016, 09:15:58 pm
Gotta put off the write up on account of I'm busy as hell and they still haven't released the damn pics.

:tgrr:

I find it absolutely unreasonable that I should have to work at work.  At any rate, I'm here overnight on Thursday, and I'll write it up with or without pics.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 31, 2016, 09:16:34 pm
Workplace came up with a term "intrepreneur" it makes me angry.  Even more so that it is there to "stimulate interest in millennial employees"

You're allowed to punch people when they do that.

Or at the very least, go to HR about age discrimination.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 31, 2016, 09:17:42 pm
There is a fly the size of my thumb flying around my office.  Nobody mentioned demonic flies when I accepted this job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 31, 2016, 09:54:44 pm
Workplace came up with a term "intrepreneur" it makes me angry.  Even more so that it is there to "stimulate interest in millennial employees"

Insist on clarification of meaning. I'm pretty sure this is a term in a Dilbert book.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 31, 2016, 10:20:39 pm
Workplace came up with a term "intrepreneur" it makes me angry.  Even more so that it is there to "stimulate interest in millennial employees"

Insist on clarification of meaning. I'm pretty sure this is a term in a Dilbert book.

Whoops it's not a new term. It's something execs decided to use until I hate. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on May 31, 2016, 10:26:20 pm
Insist on clarification anyway. There's no way to use a bullshit term like that without the explanation involving multiple other bullshit terms.

Then apply V3x/LMNO and await corporate meltdown. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on May 31, 2016, 10:35:24 pm
Guess I'm still stuck in the internal kickstarter.  Advertising that they gave $2000 to everyone to invest in projects, when the money was never real, but hey millions of dollars were invested. Did you know millions were invested? Have you invested yet???? They managed to take an idea that was kinda neat and make me hate it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on May 31, 2016, 10:47:00 pm
It's cool, no worries.  I appreciate you taking the time to hae a look around.  Apparently a lot has changed since I bought a laptop way back in....2011  :|

No problem man. I remember looking around for a laptop for my GF awhile back and I found some pretty insane deals. She ended up getting a laptop that, at the time, should have cost about 900-1200 dollars. She got it for just under 500 dollars. Now, at the moment, I can't find any deals that huge. But I am finding a few in your range, or just above, that are pretty awesome.

Take a look at this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ASUS-K501UX-15-6-256GB-SSD-8GB-RAM-I7-6500U-2-5GHz-NVIDIA-950M-WIN-10/272243223291?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D66696318e592491d8ceb4ffe310f0140%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D322051028052)

Gonna put together a little list to choose from of things like this. Will probably compile them in the next post or so. But I'll post a couple as I find them to see if you have any objections.

Which reminds me: Do you prefer Intel or AMD processors? And would you sacrifice a little reliability by getting AMD to get more RAM, Graphics power, or HD space?

I have no real preferences processor wise.  My desktop uses AMD, but previous laptops have used Intel and I've had no problems.  A little bit more RAM is always nice...not so much for gaming, but having multiple tabs on a browser, a word processor running, music playing etc all at once can strain a system.

Junkie's first rule of IT purchasing - you're never just buying one thing. Consider bullshitting your local PC hole that the "educational establishment that you represent" is looking to purchase 50+ laptops for students along with software/maintenance etc. But first the treasurer wants 1 only to use over the summer to check reliability etc.

You may just be able to bag something a touch above spec for the same cash, done right. (Make sure it's cash so you can "claim it back out of petty cash"). If you get an idiot and a good deal, great. If not, you know exactly what you're looking for online. Also, don't be shy about comparing prices on your phone in front of them. Always a fun reaction, particularly if they're selling it as a good deal.

Eh, all I really want is a word processor which can surf the internet.  I'm not really sure if it is worth quite that much effort...

Thanks for the advice though, I'll probably use it when updating my desktop.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on May 31, 2016, 10:51:03 pm
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.

I think the idea is to make you buy a new one.
I get fairly good deals on used equipment.  New is meh.
Yea, can't really afford a whole new one, and I buy things so infrequently that my comparative bargaining skills approach zero.  Even if I successfully fix this one, it's not really equipped to run the new shit.  Makes the whole effort seem like extortion.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 01, 2016, 12:18:47 am
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.

I think the idea is to make you buy a new one.
I get fairly good deals on used equipment.  New is meh.
Yea, can't really afford a whole new one, and I buy things so infrequently that my comparative bargaining skills approach zero.  Even if I successfully fix this one, it's not really equipped to run the new shit.  Makes the whole effort seem like extortion.

Well, laptops are on here mostly, a couple desktops, I can pm you my login if you want to check it out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 01, 2016, 12:33:35 am
Quote
Eh, all I really want is a word processor which can surf the internet.  I'm not really sure if it is worth quite that much effort...

Depends how much use you're going to put it to.

I've been using an acer E5 something heavily(generally 6-18 hours live out of any given day) for about a year and can't complain. Able to run 200+ mods(No graphics/enb's because I don't care, could test if you're curious) on skyrim without any real issues as well as crap in the background, usually another 4-6 programs depending on what I'm fucking about with. For general office/gaming/internets I can't really fault it. 4GB ram and I've only felt it to be an issue a handful of times. Pillars of Eternity's load times springs to mind. That said, I'm still pretty confident it'll run Bannerlord when that finally drops too. Pretty much anything will word process and internet so I'd look at just getting something that beats the highest recommended specs of a game you'll either be playing or intend to.

You're basically picking between a 2-300 decent refurb, 4-500 something new or 2K+ for idiot tech that's never worth it. Dealer's choice between the first two options to my mind. Faust/Paes may be worth a word with.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 01, 2016, 12:38:36 am
 :argh!: can't find the UK portal for my employee discounts
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 01, 2016, 01:42:21 am
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.

I think the idea is to make you buy a new one.
I get fairly good deals on used equipment.  New is meh.
Yea, can't really afford a whole new one, and I buy things so infrequently that my comparative bargaining skills approach zero.  Even if I successfully fix this one, it's not really equipped to run the new shit.  Makes the whole effort seem like extortion.

Well, laptops are on here mostly, a couple desktops, I can pm you my login if you want to check it out.
Just now finished putting the darn thing (laptop) back together, without again stripping a single screw.  In a few minutes I'll rally the courage to turn it on, or, just in case the silver compound needs to set a little.  I would really be gratefull for that PM if this fix doesn't work out [results forthcoming].  Actually, I feel a lot better about this just because of that gesture.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 01, 2016, 02:45:24 am
Got my new logic board back from Ohio last week.  I'm supposed to replace it today (again), get back in the saddle and so forth...  Thing is, I'm really starting to resent fixing a thing that is blatantly designed to not facilitate its repair.  Okay, I may overlook that hex-pentalope screw-head nastiness, because, no harm; however, flipping the ABSOLUTE last connector, connecting CPU to heatsink, to connect with the FLIMSIEST jack of them all, on the REVERSE of the board, too small for EVEN THE TIP of the spudger...  They knew exactly what that meant.  That's just fucking evil.

I think the idea is to make you buy a new one.
I get fairly good deals on used equipment.  New is meh.
Yea, can't really afford a whole new one, and I buy things so infrequently that my comparative bargaining skills approach zero.  Even if I successfully fix this one, it's not really equipped to run the new shit.  Makes the whole effort seem like extortion.

Well, laptops are on here mostly, a couple desktops, I can pm you my login if you want to check it out.
Just now finished putting the darn thing (laptop) back together, without again stripping a single screw.  In a few minutes I'll rally the courage to turn it on, or, just in case the silver compound needs to set a little.  I would really be gratefull for that PM if this fix doesn't work out [results forthcoming].  Actually, I feel a lot better about this just because of that gesture.  Thank you.

K sent it.  Might have to wait a day or so, I'm seeing the cheaper items out of stock.  They replenish frequently though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 01, 2016, 02:55:43 am
Cain, I kinda agree with Junkie. I tend to assert my own tech purchasing habits on other people when I look for deals for them. What you want can be easily obtained for 400 bucks in a refurbished computer. I can continue to try and find a fkn siiiick laptop for your maximum price range, and it will do more than what you currently want to do with it, for if you ever get the urge to do more with it. But you could easily spend the simple 400 on something reasonably functional and spend the rest/save the rest.

It's up to you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 01, 2016, 03:24:55 am
So I don't bother posting about my life ITT very much because I figure anyone who cares probably already sees it on facebook but I can't talk about this on FB because my current employers would no doubt see it, so...


I just completed my application for my TWIC and I have an appointment in a couple weeks to bring my documents and my fingers for printing to a physical location to complete the process and then I will be able to get my MMC and then I will be able to take that sweet gig with the tug company and get fat paid to do runs between here and AK or HI.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 01, 2016, 03:59:25 am
So I don't bother posting about my life ITT very much because I figure anyone who cares probably already sees it on facebook but I can't talk about this on FB because my current employers would no doubt see it, so...


I just completed my application for my TWIC and I have an appointment in a couple weeks to bring my documents and my fingers for printing to a physical location to complete the process and then I will be able to get my MMC and then I will be able to take that sweet gig with the tug company and get fat paid to do runs between here and AK or HI.

woot.

Rough sailing half the year, but still.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 01, 2016, 07:52:17 am
Yeah, but there are fewer runs that time of year anyway. After the first year I'll be able to bank enough PTO to avoid the worst of it entirely. It's one day PTO accrued for every day at sea so that's not difficult to do. And, in addition to cooking I'd have to help load/unload cargo when we're in port. All time spent doing that is $20/hr extra on top of my day rate. And I'll be credentialed as an A/B so that sea time can go towards sitting for a mate's or master's license sometime in the future if I want to go that route.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 01, 2016, 10:50:05 am
Congratulations! Also, that job sounds fucking hard/awesome/rewarding!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 01, 2016, 01:32:31 pm
Cool beans, ECH.  Rock on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Emo Howard on June 01, 2016, 01:37:53 pm
Last night in my industrial maintenance class, one of the students was sitting in another student's chair so he told him to get out of it. The seated student gave the chair next to him a push towards the first student, and said "Here you go." The first student said "Well I asked you nice.", reached down, grabbed the chair and flipped it over, tossing the previously seated student onto the floor. Previously seated student jumps up, glares at chair flipper for a couple of seconds, reaches into his pocket, pulls out a pocketknife, opens it, and grabs the guy who tossed him in the floor.

Right about there, the instructor walks in the room, and breaks it up. Both students get sent home. At least one of them won't be coming back, and most likely will be going to jail. The fate of chair flipper is uncertain.

This is all second hand information, as I was deeply engrossed in an attempt to find the laser alignment lab books in the lab book cabinet at the time. To me, the most notable detail of the incident was how quiet the whole thing was. I was just around the corner, and would have seen the whole thing if I had been two steps to my left. Yet, there was no noticeable commotion until the instructor stepped in.

In related news, I was unable to find the laser alignment lab book. :sad:

 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 02, 2016, 01:02:44 am
Laptop seems to have mended (fingers crossed).  So that felt good for a minute.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 02, 2016, 03:49:43 am
Laptop seems to have mended (fingers crossed).  So that felt good for a minute.

Yay for fixing!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 03, 2016, 02:54:26 am
So I don't bother posting about my life ITT very much because I figure anyone who cares probably already sees it on facebook but I can't talk about this on FB because my current employers would no doubt see it, so...


I just completed my application for my TWIC and I have an appointment in a couple weeks to bring my documents and my fingers for printing to a physical location to complete the process and then I will be able to get my MMC and then I will be able to take that sweet gig with the tug company and get fat paid to do runs between here and AK or HI.

That's a lot of acronyms I don't know but it sounds like boats and money, so FUCK YEAH!

Making money on the ocean always sounds great, and then I remember that anything more turbid than the Long Island Sound makes my organs go all inside-out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 03, 2016, 10:32:23 pm
Just FYI, I'm doing Youtube videos again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxCpKxim7Q).  Next episode will be the big one - Bleak Falls Barrow. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 03, 2016, 11:03:46 pm
Victor went about his workday, tragically unaware that Roger had swiped the predator suit again.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13339647_1126010914117230_8983775929103208628_n.jpg?oh=a80d851bfea94210fbedf22bdf0d0d9c&oe=57C255EB)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 04, 2016, 02:27:36 am
Victor went about his workday, tragically unaware that Roger had swiped the predator suit again.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13339647_1126010914117230_8983775929103208628_n.jpg?oh=a80d851bfea94210fbedf22bdf0d0d9c&oe=57C255EB)

 :lulz: :lulz:

Equipment testing is a vital part of any professional workplace! Scheduling constraints often require initiative and flexibility.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: President Television on June 04, 2016, 05:47:29 pm
Just FYI, I'm doing Youtube videos again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxCpKxim7Q).  Next episode will be the big one - Bleak Falls Barrow.

I have to say, I'm kind of in love with the idea of Bleak Falls Barrow being a major challenge, after how easy it was in the default game.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2016, 06:13:01 pm
Yeah, it's one of those things that catches out new Requiem players who didn't read the manual on a semi-frequent basis.

Draugr are mid-tier enemies, you need fire/silver/restoration magic to effectively kill them.  If you're an archer, silver is necessary, as they take no damage from other material types (and you can forget your sneak bonuses on undead, fetcher).  There are also some other changes to the final sections of the dungeon which make it even more challenging.

This may seem like difficulty for difficulty's sake, but it's to make sure you're strong enough for the next section: fighting a dragon.  Dragons are significantly buffed high level enemies who can plausibly destroy a large town and kill multiple guards or soldiers (Requiem guards are significantly buffed, so this is no small feat). In older versions, this would also cause random dragon attacks to start.  Irileth and the Whiterun guard will help you with the first dragon, so it's not so bad, but fighting a dragon on your own is a whole different story. 

Not that it matters much for my character.  Dunmer = best race.  Plus fire magic and Red Eagle's Bane = curbstomping undead.

Beyond that, I think the idea was also to emulate Morrowind, where Snowy Granius and the bandit infested Dwemer ruin often brutally stomped unprepared players, before telling them to go back to Balmora and git gud.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 05, 2016, 03:50:43 am
Need feedback: is baiting a mammoth into clearing a bandit camp unknightly conduct?

Potentially mitigating factors: I am a Knight of Stendarr, not of Kyne, so smiting evil is my thing.  Nature is not so much my thing.  They also had two crossbows.  Also some sabrecats were already attacking them.  And some mudcrabs.  So in a way nature was already against them.  I also didn't do any permanent harm to the mammoth, though it was a bit pissed at me.

Chivalry experts, plz advise.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 05, 2016, 04:06:28 am
Not that it matters much for my character.  Dunmer = best race.  Plus fire magic and Red Eagle's Bane = curbstomping undead.

I was always a fan of Breton + Magic Defense Enchants = 75% Magic Damage reduction, but that was in the base game.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2016, 04:14:56 am
And Muhammad Ali died.   :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 05, 2016, 04:18:23 am
Not that it matters much for my character.  Dunmer = best race.  Plus fire magic and Red Eagle's Bane = curbstomping undead.

I was always a fan of Breton + Magic Defense Enchants = 75% Magic Damage reduction, but that was in the base game.

You can still do that in Requiem, it just takes longer.  Breton + Lord Stone + Saviour's Hide is pretty legit and fairly easy to get early on.  Throw in some Alteration, Alchemy and Enchanting and you're good.

However, Dunmer edge Bretons out because Ancestor's Wrath gives 95% damage reduction from all sources for 60 seconds, their starting stats and carry weight are better, and they can sneak, do alchemy and enchant items without requiring perks.  So in terms of starting off, they are a lot more flexible in filling whichever role you desire (in particular they can make nasty low level nightblades and assassins).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 05, 2016, 04:19:28 am
And Muhammad Ali died.   :cry:

On the plus side, this means the internet will now be full of people eager to prove just how right he was about America.  But yeah  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 05, 2016, 04:42:06 am
Need more beer, the phrase "Why so you vote democrat, they've been oppressing minorities with welfare" was just uttered.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 05, 2016, 04:42:44 am
And Muhammad Ali died.   :cry:

Wrath of 2016.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on June 05, 2016, 09:32:12 am
Need feedback: is baiting a mammoth into clearing a bandit camp unknightly conduct?

Potentially mitigating factors: I am a Knight of Stendarr, not of Kyne, so smiting evil is my thing.  Nature is not so much my thing.  They also had two crossbows.  Also some sabrecats were already attacking them.  And some mudcrabs.  So in a way nature was already against them.  I also didn't do any permanent harm to the mammoth, though it was a bit pissed at me.

Chivalry experts, plz advise.

Its mostly in character for a Knight of Stendarr, however at this point due to the tricksy nature of the attack I must say you should consider being a Knight of Sheogorath
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 05, 2016, 09:25:25 pm
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 05, 2016, 11:56:42 pm
Had the weirdest day-dream last night.  Somehow got clearance to enter this spaceship, pretty weird cylindrical lab-like environment.  Warm and friendly-like.  Everything was rounded.  No harsh colors or hard lines.  Airy and light.

Anyway, turns out I'm suddenly French-kissing (being French-kissed) by an alien.  I'm both in the alien lab (dream) and at home (actually) at the same time.  I know that the lab attendants might have been expecting the encounter, and my friends at home may have been slightly surprised.  The weird thing was being torn between gesturing (with my eyes; hands and mouth were occupied) toward recognition of high weirdness to my friends, and then also (more importantly) maintaining a sense of  proper decorum during this protracted, fly-by-night slow-motion encounter of the fourth kind.

It was like some kind of diplomatic handshake that would have been disrespectful to overlook or not perform in it's entirety, which was around pi/4 arc rotations in duration, or something like that.  You know, just in case this starts being a thing.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 06, 2016, 01:00:33 am
Had the weirdest day-dream last night.  Somehow got clearance to enter this spaceship, pretty weird cylindrical lab-like environment.  Warm and friendly-like.  Everything was rounded.  No harsh colors or hard lines.  Airy and light.

Anyway, turns out I'm suddenly French-kissing (being French-kissed) by an alien.  I'm both in the alien lab (dream) and at home (actually) at the same time.  I know that the lab attendants might have been expecting the encounter, and my friends at home may have been slightly surprised.  The weird thing was being torn between gesturing (with my eyes; hands and mouth were occupied) toward recognition of high weirdness to my friends, and then also (more importantly) maintaining a sense of  proper decorum during this protracted, fly-by-night slow-motion encounter of the fourth kind.

It was like some kind of diplomatic handshake that would have been disrespectful to overlook or not perform in it's entirety, which was around pi/4 arc rotations in duration, or something like that.  You know, just in case this starts being a thing.  :lulz:

 :regret:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2016, 01:05:25 am
Need feedback: is baiting a mammoth into clearing a bandit camp unknightly conduct?

Potentially mitigating factors: I am a Knight of Stendarr, not of Kyne, so smiting evil is my thing.  Nature is not so much my thing.  They also had two crossbows.  Also some sabrecats were already attacking them.  And some mudcrabs.  So in a way nature was already against them.  I also didn't do any permanent harm to the mammoth, though it was a bit pissed at me.

Chivalry experts, plz advise.

Its mostly in character for a Knight of Stendarr, however at this point due to the tricksy nature of the attack I must say you should consider being a Knight of Sheogorath

Sadly that ruins my sweet silver weapon and healing spell bonuses for not cavorting with daedra. 

Though it's questionable whether any bonus is as worthwhile as the wabbajack....
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 06, 2016, 02:19:57 am
Sheogorath is a trip.  I love doing that quest. 


Also, Hey Suu!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2016, 04:00:31 am
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 06, 2016, 04:41:33 am
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2016, 04:44:55 am
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 06, 2016, 05:16:32 am
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.

The Jacumba Mountains, those were the fuckers. Steep grades, and a sign to turn your AC off so your car wouldn't overheat. I had no issue with my Subaru until then. I pulled over, gave her a few seconds. Put the windows down and the heat on, wrapped my head and ears really well with my scarf, and the AWD locked her in 50mph across the range. It was like driving through a blast furnace from below sea level to 4000ft, and then the temperature plummeted within minutes from 112 to 89. By the time we got into the city about an hour later, it was 70. It was bizarre in the best way possible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 06, 2016, 12:49:21 pm
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.

The Jacumba Mountains, those were the fuckers. Steep grades, and a sign to turn your AC off so your car wouldn't overheat. I had no issue with my Subaru until then. I pulled over, gave her a few seconds. Put the windows down and the heat on, wrapped my head and ears really well with my scarf, and the AWD locked her in 50mph across the range. It was like driving through a blast furnace from below sea level to 4000ft, and then the temperature plummeted within minutes from 112 to 89. By the time we got into the city about an hour later, it was 70. It was bizarre in the best way possible.

I was told the brakes get spongy too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 06, 2016, 05:11:35 pm
Insanely bored, but if I design any more flyers I think my husband is gonna beat me to death with used ink cartridges.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 06, 2016, 07:13:38 pm
Was going to try and do more like these, but may not have the time for a bit.

Just spit balling and expanding on some of the gamer-geeky thoughts that have hit my brain at one point or another since I got here.

Might open a thread when I have more.
Geek items

Discordian relic for Pathfinder-like game

  +3 Pants Of Importance:
Immune to fear effects, extreme weather, curses, and disease. Wearer may take full move every round but no otherwise prohibited actions when paralyzed, wearer always floats on water without a swim check, cannot be tripped or ensnared by natural hazardous terrain, immune to "dirty fighting" maneuvers targeting areas covered by pants, adds +5 magical bonus to all leadership or performance: oratory checks and any other checks made to maneuver self or commanded troops in combat. Pants resize and refit for any wearer and will make a tin can leaking baked beans look tasty, but can be fully concealed by covering the whole leg with looser clothing. Pants sweat like hell under layers or while riding in warm conditions. They ARE heavily leathered you know.  Attempting to roll up pants more than about 2 inches simply fails, entirely, forever. Pants are tight breeches of exquisite yellow cloth with both natural brown and green dyed leather fittings and reinforcement, they and wearer are magically always clean after 8 hrs of sleep and wearer always wakens easily with full consciousness instantly if interrupted, but the cleaning power will not trigger without 8 conservative hrs of uninterrupted rest. This removes all contagious pathogens wearer may be incidentally carrying. Pants cannot be removed unless wearer is dead, but will preserve the body and any items stored directly inside the pants against natural elements, animals,  and extreme decay. Wearer still IS clearly dead. If pants are still on wearer at the time of the casting the wearer and caster get a +5 bonus to all relevant resurrection checks, but if a resurrection spell or similar spell is used after the pants are removed and the spell fails for any reason the character is permanently dead and magically rots away producing a cloud of horrible stench with a radius equal to the character's level.

Usable once per day: Pants glitter golden and all mortal beings and undead seeing the wearer of the +3 Pants of Importance will begin to pursue the wearer in a mindless, idiotic state for exactly one hour. No save if seen.


A playing card from a game that only currently exists in another world... maybe.

Name: The Good Reverend Roger, HOLY AS FUCK!!
Lulz: 8
Reg: Science, Troll, Political, Religious
Tags: admin, horrible, magic(see txt), thuggish
Txt:
Only playable on threads that have had at least 1 Troll level regged by any spag, may swap threads as a normal admin spag once played.

TGRR, HAF!! has the magic tag whenever it would be beneficial and does not have it whenever the effects would be negative, or controlling player's choice. TGRR, HAF!! does not count as magical for initiating posts or playing shenanigans cards that require the "magic" Spag Tag, but may add to effect threshold count if player so chooses. TGRR, HAF!! is always counted  towards attempts to dispell, by any player, and counts double.

If this card is flounced for any reason remove it from the game. You may search your Spag deck for a copy of The Man From Tucson and put it into your hand. This does not count as a card draw. If you do, reshuffle.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 06, 2016, 10:03:10 pm
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.

The Jacumba Mountains, those were the fuckers. Steep grades, and a sign to turn your AC off so your car wouldn't overheat. I had no issue with my Subaru until then. I pulled over, gave her a few seconds. Put the windows down and the heat on, wrapped my head and ears really well with my scarf, and the AWD locked her in 50mph across the range. It was like driving through a blast furnace from below sea level to 4000ft, and then the temperature plummeted within minutes from 112 to 89. By the time we got into the city about an hour later, it was 70. It was bizarre in the best way possible.

I was told the brakes get spongy too.

My brakes did okay. San Diego is far more hilly than NH was, however, so I can see that I'll be needed a brake job shortly. In addition to the oil change that I earned doing a 3500mi drive. But damn if this ain't a pretty city. The people are certifiable, but I think that comes with the combination of "desert" and "California."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2016, 06:43:33 am
Got my dissertation grades back today.  Looks like a solid 2:1 overall, and an equally solid 2:1 grade for the M.Litt as a whole, though confirmation on that second point will have to wait until Friday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on June 07, 2016, 08:45:37 am
I got an interview with the biggest software company in the city.

(http://i.imgur.com/2An4KZT.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2016, 08:58:11 am
 :mittens:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 07, 2016, 09:20:23 am
Excellent work those simians.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 07, 2016, 05:11:24 pm
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.

The Jacumba Mountains, those were the fuckers. Steep grades, and a sign to turn your AC off so your car wouldn't overheat. I had no issue with my Subaru until then. I pulled over, gave her a few seconds. Put the windows down and the heat on, wrapped my head and ears really well with my scarf, and the AWD locked her in 50mph across the range. It was like driving through a blast furnace from below sea level to 4000ft, and then the temperature plummeted within minutes from 112 to 89. By the time we got into the city about an hour later, it was 70. It was bizarre in the best way possible.

I was told the brakes get spongy too.

My brakes did okay. San Diego is far more hilly than NH was, however, so I can see that I'll be needed a brake job shortly. In addition to the oil change that I earned doing a 3500mi drive. But damn if this ain't a pretty city. The people are certifiable, but I think that comes with the combination of "desert" and "California."

Are you living in San Dawg now?

I'm jelly. It's the only inhabited part of California that's worth a shit. I'd move to La Jolla tomorrow if I could afford the rents.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 07, 2016, 06:15:06 pm
I HAVE SEEN TUCSON.

I HAVE SEEN THE HOLY LAND.

I AM A CHANGED 40 YEAR OLD FAT MAN WHO HAS CROSSED THE DESERT TO...ANOTHER FUCKING DESERT.

 :zombie:

That is exactly what it felt like in the stretch of hate-filled landscape between the Arizona border and the ridge before San Diego. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PLACE I HAVE FELT HELL AND DRIVEN THROUGH MARS.

But seriously though, I has a writing upcoming about the mountain that never got closer, but the road got longer. I swear this happened.

That's the place where bad mobsters go when they die.

and yes, that's a death valley thing.  The background recycles like a Scooby Doo cartoon, and the dot where the road meets the horizon never ends.

The Jacumba Mountains, those were the fuckers. Steep grades, and a sign to turn your AC off so your car wouldn't overheat. I had no issue with my Subaru until then. I pulled over, gave her a few seconds. Put the windows down and the heat on, wrapped my head and ears really well with my scarf, and the AWD locked her in 50mph across the range. It was like driving through a blast furnace from below sea level to 4000ft, and then the temperature plummeted within minutes from 112 to 89. By the time we got into the city about an hour later, it was 70. It was bizarre in the best way possible.

I was told the brakes get spongy too.

My brakes did okay. San Diego is far more hilly than NH was, however, so I can see that I'll be needed a brake job shortly. In addition to the oil change that I earned doing a 3500mi drive. But damn if this ain't a pretty city. The people are certifiable, but I think that comes with the combination of "desert" and "California."

Are you living in San Dawg now?

I'm jelly. It's the only inhabited part of California that's worth a shit. I'd move to La Jolla tomorrow if I could afford the rents.

I am. Got in Thursday night. It's a short tour, but it's cheaper for the Navy to move me here and then back east again than try to support two people on opposite coasts. Because  New England isn't fucking cheap, either.

Oh by the way, my brother moved to St. Thomas. I was going to ping you about where he should look for jobs, but he already nailed one at some bistro as assistant sous-chef making too much money. I don't think he's ever gonna leave.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 07, 2016, 06:33:24 pm
Got my dissertation grades back today.  Looks like a solid 2:1 overall, and an equally solid 2:1 grade for the M.Litt as a whole, though confirmation on that second point will have to wait until Friday.

 :mittens:

Fuck yeah, Masters degrees and shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 09, 2016, 04:20:08 am
A friend of mine and I were discussing the possibilities of the cell phone boards from adafruit.  Most project ideas involved taxidermied squirrels. 

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2016, 09:19:02 pm
I have the Holies™ bad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 09, 2016, 09:31:50 pm
Stop looking into the GODTOILETTM.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2016, 09:52:26 pm
Stop looking into the GODTOILETTM.

Can't.  You'd look too, if you could.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 10, 2016, 12:42:04 am
A friend of mine and I were discussing the possibilities of the cell phone boards from adafruit.  Most project ideas involved taxidermied squirrels.
:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 10, 2016, 12:59:32 am
Stop looking into the GODTOILETTM.

Can't.  You'd look too, if you could.

Yup

(I tried to say more, but my guts started to seize again, like even getting this out is... uncomfortable)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2016, 03:25:49 am
Yeah, well, I have obtained the materials I need for spending Saturday night doing that shit.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 10, 2016, 01:01:12 pm
Our house got burgled, so that's kind of shit.
It looks like they ransacked the bedroom/hall areas, piled everything on a blanket ready to carry it out, then walked into the lounge and realised the house is full of cameras and door sensors (turned off due to a cleaner visiting today). They seem to have freaked out, broken a camera off the wall and stolen it, stolen one MacBook (among a pile of other MacBooks and more expensive electronics) and bolted.

No images captured due to disabled system, but we do have a timeline of their movements through doors for all the good it does us. I don't imagine we'll ever see the MacBook or the security camera again.

Fantastically, our cleaner then turned up, presumed we were slobs and unransacked the house, polishing all flat surfaces and likely destroying all forensic evidence.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on June 10, 2016, 01:22:37 pm
Shit, sorry to hear that man.


Fantastically, our cleaner then turned up, presumed we were slobs and unransacked the house, polishing all flat surfaces and likely destroying all forensic evidence.
I would have said its an inside job if it wasn't so believably silly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 10, 2016, 01:23:11 pm
Our house got burgled, so that's kind of shit.
It looks like they ransacked the bedroom/hall areas, piled everything on a blanket ready to carry it out, then walked into the lounge and realised the house is full of cameras and door sensors (turned off due to a cleaner visiting today). They seem to have freaked out, broken a camera off the wall and stolen it, stolen one MacBook (among a pile of other MacBooks and more expensive electronics) and bolted.

No images captured due to disabled system, but we do have a timeline of their movements through doors for all the good it does us. I don't imagine we'll ever see the MacBook or the security camera again.

Fantastically, our cleaner then turned up, presumed we were slobs and unransacked the house, polishing all flat surfaces and likely destroying all forensic evidence.

 :lulz:

I'm sorry, that's a really shitty thing to have happened, but your cleaner sounds like an earnest and adorable hard worker.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2016, 01:25:14 pm
That's pretty crap, though it clearly could have been much worse. I assume your police are about as incompetent as ours so I'd keep your eye on ebay and such because you never know your luck.

Hells, even a quick run round the local pawnshops might just get you somewhere.

A friend's shop got burgled at the start of the week and I was surprised at how little effort was put in so if you really give a shit about any of your gear, you may have to put in the legwork yourself.



Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 10, 2016, 03:03:51 pm
The cleaner also took photos before cleaning, in case we complained about the work because it was so bad to start with, so we got some kind of idea of what was messed with. Despite the obvious not noticing something was amiss with the open front door and turned-over house, I am impressed that she thought we left it like that and STILL cleaned it.

Definitely keeping an eye on sales, gave police serial numbers and will share those with relevant stores. Thinking of configuring a few of my devices to listen out for the MAC address of the missing device, in case it's still trying to pair with our WiFi access point when we drive past the house it's in, if it's local.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2016, 03:36:07 pm
I'm almost disappointed you've not installed some kind of self destruct device.

What kind of future is this?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2016, 03:57:54 pm
Hope you get your shit back.

I doubt the cleaning lady was in on it, but it does seem fortuitous they chose the day she would be there and that the camera was turned off for their robbery.  I assume you've considered the possibility you were surveilled before the crime? 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 10, 2016, 04:55:03 pm
I slept through a 5.2 earthquake and about 400 aftershocks. I'm surprised the Golden State waited a week to welcome me.

Also, that's bollocks, Paes. I hope you can track your shit down.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on June 10, 2016, 05:17:14 pm
Definitely keeping an eye on sales, gave police serial numbers and will share those with relevant stores. Thinking of configuring a few of my devices to listen out for the MAC address of the missing device, in case it's still trying to pair with our WiFi access point when we drive past the house it's in, if it's local.

This is a brilliant idea, I'd never have thought of that. At some point I'll have to set up the "ring home" functionality on the phone and laptop to send on its location.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2016, 05:38:30 pm
Grade confirmed today as a 2:1.  I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 10, 2016, 06:09:04 pm
Thank you for continually confirming you're one of the smartest people I know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on June 10, 2016, 08:33:12 pm
Grade confirmed today as a 2:1.  I'm OK with that.

I had to look up the UK grading system, but nice work!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 10, 2016, 09:40:07 pm
Much respect Cain!

---

Paes, sorry, first glance turned up this "latent" device re:
Quote
Definitely keeping an eye on sales, gave police serial numbers and will share those with relevant stores. Thinking of configuring a few of my devices to listen out for the MAC address of the missing device, in case it's still trying to pair with our WiFi access point when we drive past the house it's in, if it's local.

http://www.l8ntwifi.com/

Maybe not ideal, but its encouraging, I mean if they can do it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2016, 10:01:54 pm
Thanks all.

And sorry for forcing you to learn about our counterintuitive scoring system Net.  To save everyone else the trouble, a 2:1 is the second highest grade available, it's 3.67 GPA, or an A- grade.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 10, 2016, 10:20:37 pm
I just dropped my lap loom. The one thing that's been keeping me fucking sane since I got here. I couldn't set it in the table vice right so I have no idea if the wood glue will catch. Ugh. I want my husband. Or my mom. Or a beer. Until then I guess a beer will suffice. I've been doing a lot of daydrinking since I moved here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 10, 2016, 10:35:07 pm
Hope you get your shit back.

I doubt the cleaning lady was in on it, but it does seem fortuitous they chose the day she would be there and that the camera was turned off for their robbery.  I assume you've considered the possibility you were surveilled before the crime?
Yeah, have thought it through a bit. Cleaning lady changed the day she was going to visit at the last minute though, and intruder seems to have been caught off guard by the security system, so they seem equal parts brilliant and stupid. It may just be that they know our daily routine, in terms of our leaving early every morning, without knowing our weekly/alarm routine.

Grats on your grade, by the way!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 10, 2016, 10:36:50 pm
I'm almost disappointed you've not installed some kind of self destruct device.

What kind of future is this?
It was poor Signora's device, but we may do this on the replacement. Sadly the remote-wipe is conditional on the device being reconnected to the internet, or the error-prone dead-man's switch approach.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 10, 2016, 11:05:25 pm
Thermite. It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2016, 11:21:06 pm
Grade confirmed today as a 2:1.  I'm OK with that.

Good to have it confirmed. So what's the next step for you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2016, 01:24:08 am
Hope you get your shit back.

I doubt the cleaning lady was in on it, but it does seem fortuitous they chose the day she would be there and that the camera was turned off for their robbery.  I assume you've considered the possibility you were surveilled before the crime?
Yeah, have thought it through a bit. Cleaning lady changed the day she was going to visit at the last minute though, and intruder seems to have been caught off guard by the security system, so they seem equal parts brilliant and stupid. It may just be that they know our daily routine, in terms of our leaving early every morning, without knowing our weekly/alarm routine.

Grats on your grade, by the way!

Ah OK.  Yeah, sounds plausible.  And thanks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2016, 01:25:05 am
Grade confirmed today as a 2:1.  I'm OK with that.

Good to have it confirmed. So what's the next step for you?

Earn a little bit of cash, get out of here and look at either paid research jobs, private sector fuckery or doing a final year thesis to upgrade this to a PhD.

Depends on what I find.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 11, 2016, 03:08:36 am
wish me luck.  Cactus without wifi, in I'Itoy's goddamn toilet bowl, in just 2 hours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 11, 2016, 05:16:42 am
Put off until tomorrow, roads closed due to flooding.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 11, 2016, 07:02:11 am
Put off until tomorrow, roads closed due to flooding.

Because rain in the desert.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2016, 07:14:08 am
Put off until tomorrow, roads closed due to flooding.

Because rain in the desert.

Well when you put it like that...
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 11, 2016, 01:54:26 pm
Put off until tomorrow, roads closed due to flooding.

I hope that things go well. My guts tell me to tell you not to go alone, do NOT trust the water, don't follow any animal you see. I'm not telling you your business, just what I can. I'm trying to build my strength up till overcome whatever has me so bound up. I needed more than an hour to put my head in order and stop the involuntary waterworks last time I tried to tap into it through your writing. It's still hard to talk about directly, but I got some impressions. Only one was particularly clear.

The GODTOILET was a dish collecting knowledge long before we started building them. Every drop of rain, snow, and mist that gathers in it is like a data packet of sorts carrying a sort of status cookie. "Big Brother" guards and reads these and learns about the world. A new story made just for him would be a fit offering, and you really should make one.

Also... does the NATION, any member, know of your intent? That on the day of your intended journey the road was made impassable by water indicates that The People, in spirit, are not in accord. You're damn well favored to get such a portent. If the spirits hated you the way would be made clear and every attempt made to get you IN THE WATER. They would not play fair. Trust me.

I'm going to go try and shake this feeling now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 11, 2016, 07:07:58 pm
I just dropped my lap loom. The one thing that's been keeping me fucking sane since I got here. I couldn't set it in the table vice right so I have no idea if the wood glue will catch. Ugh. I want my husband. Or my mom. Or a beer. Until then I guess a beer will suffice. I've been doing a lot of daydrinking since I moved here.

There's Newton's Yarn Country in Anaheim that would know what your best/local options are at the moment.  I have a cursory affiliation to FiberShed in CA and that Newton's joint is all the rage with them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 12, 2016, 04:11:46 pm
Congrats Cain!

Paes, that is awful, but I'm glad there was a funny side.

Suu, I'm sorry, that sucks :(

Good Luck Roger!


In other news, things are looking very up at my current job.

I work as a contracted IT Service Desk agent for multiple companies. And the number of those companies are about to increase for me, and no one else on my team (This is good, because that increases my qualifications elsewhere in my company). They're consistently giving me more responsibilities, which of course, will mean more pay.

I'm consistently destroying my team in total call resolve rate (The percentage of tickets/calls I touch that I resolve in my name) and first call resolve rate (percentage of tickets resolved on the first call if possible, or routed properly if not possible) on our biggest account. I was told, only after 3 months of working here that by the end of the next year, they would talk to me about moving up. Judging by that, and their recent management behavior, I will most likely be hired on to the company I'm contracted to and receive significantly better pay and benefits a bit sooner than within the year. I may also be the youngest person ever to do so, and may have done it quicker than anyone has before.


Also, I've been spewing rusty rants all over Facebook to get myself ready for some good ones, here. I'm finally being stimulated by getting more sleep and actively learning, so say goodbye to my wordsalad nonsense that used to pass for rants.

~Ferdinandpoops
I've had a good couple weeks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2016, 04:35:15 am
Alive. Exhausted.  More tomorrow.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 13, 2016, 04:44:58 am
Nice work, Fernando!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 13, 2016, 05:58:14 am
I've been on this seriously nasty nihilistic, violent, hate-filled HOLY CRUSADE on Facebook since I got to San Diego. I'm having a fucking field day today just calling it like it is and pissing everyone off.

(http://i.imgur.com/CyD06qp.png)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 13, 2016, 12:54:55 pm
I've been on this seriously nasty nihilistic, violent, hate-filled HOLY CRUSADE on Facebook since I got to San Diego. I'm having a fucking field day today just calling it like it is and pissing everyone off.

(http://i.imgur.com/CyD06qp.png)

Although I would argue that both Liberals and Conservatives in government take steps to limit free speech, I do find it funny that the conservatives are the first to assume that statement of an opinion that is contrary to theirs is somehow an attack on their freedom of speech.

"I hate it when people say X"

"WOWWW, NOW YOU WANNA TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO SAY X?"
*Godwin's law takes over*

These people make me ashamed to be a patriot sometimes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 13, 2016, 01:01:19 pm
Nice work, Fernando!

Thanks man!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2016, 01:27:50 pm
Good going Mr Poo.

I had to argue with a few people on social media, but I've mostly given up on it.  Trying to explain how because someone says they're with ISIS doesn't necessarily mean they're with ISIS, or how radicalisation is a complex series of engagements and there are no clear and cut rules for what makes someone turn to political violence is depressingly hard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 13, 2016, 01:35:11 pm
ISIS is the new Anonymous that way. I wish it was the new Anonymous more in the memes and dressing like idiots and not killing anybody way instead.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 13, 2016, 03:28:29 pm
Alive. Exhausted.  More tomorrow.

Glad to hear!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Template on June 13, 2016, 04:03:07 pm
ISIS is the new Anonymous that way. I wish it was the new Anonymous more in the memes and dressing like idiots and not killing anybody way instead.


Anonymous has been a fucked-shitless shit since some time between the V mask and Chanology. The name and concept was given a form, and thus trapped in physical reality, time, space. The common id lost an outlet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 13, 2016, 04:11:58 pm
ISIS is the new Anonymous that way. I wish it was the new Anonymous more in the memes and dressing like idiots and not killing anybody way instead.


Anonymous has been a fucked-shitless shit since some time between the V mask and Chanology. The name and concept was given a form, and thus trapped in physical reality, time, space. The common id lost an outlet.

Get out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Template on June 13, 2016, 04:38:07 pm
ISIS is the new Anonymous that way. I wish it was the new Anonymous more in the memes and dressing like idiots and not killing anybody way instead.


Anonymous has been a fucked-shitless shit since some time between the V mask and Chanology. The name and concept was given a form, and thus trapped in physical reality, time, space. The common id lost an outlet.

Get out.

Please explain.

My perspective is limited. I want to know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 13, 2016, 04:54:25 pm
ISIS is the new Anonymous that way. I wish it was the new Anonymous more in the memes and dressing like idiots and not killing anybody way instead.


Anonymous has been a fucked-shitless shit since some time between the V mask and Chanology. The name and concept was given a form, and thus trapped in physical reality, time, space. The common id lost an outlet.

Get out.

Please explain.

(http://i.imgur.com/aREivOF.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 13, 2016, 08:24:16 pm
I believe Anonymous went to Shittsburg, Shittsylvania long ago. Not sure what Template was getting at half way through, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Faust on June 13, 2016, 08:30:20 pm
I haven't seen anything from Anon in a long time. Has the group largely been defanged or something?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on June 13, 2016, 08:52:30 pm
Good stuff, Fernando.

I haven't seen anything from Anon in a long time. Has the group largely been defanged or something?

Right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2016, 09:35:09 pm
Depends what you consider "Anon" nowadays.

For example, a lot of the online Trump support has been organised pretty much directly from /pol/, 4chan's "politically incorrect" board.  The memes, edgelordism...it's all classic, if toxic, 4chan.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: President Television on June 13, 2016, 10:04:41 pm
Depends what you consider "Anon" nowadays.

For example, a lot of the online Trump support has been organised pretty much directly from /pol/, 4chan's "politically incorrect" board.  The memes, edgelordism...it's all classic, if toxic, 4chan.

Yeah, nowadays they make shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1w4IxCXIxU
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 13, 2016, 10:43:48 pm
In Other News:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRegUuydEUg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRegUuydEUg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2016, 10:56:54 pm
So the new hire is trying to gaslight me.

Problem for her: I was already pretty convinced she was wrong on all her attempts, and I got confirmation on two of them today.  Oops.  Furthermore, people in glass houses should not throw stones...and people who consistently and as a matter of record misplace master keys shouldn't try and implicate others in key loss.

I have to wonder why she cares so badly, though.  I mean, it's an open secret I don't intend to hang around anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 14, 2016, 12:46:15 am
Thanks all!


My ANALysis of Anointmoose:

They started out just as much disorganized and "legion" as they were Freedom fighters. Skiddies wanting to seem cool, and actual full-fledged security professionals became unnamed allies under the guise of the idea that freedom was inherently wasted and attacked all around the world. The idea that those who attack freedom deserve to be held accountable for their actions. An attack on freedom was an attack on humanity, in their eyes. And unlike most movements like this, it was EMOTIONAL. It recognized the individuality and unity and flaws of mankind and embraced all of it. It was blind to political bias and was sought after by liberals and conservatives alike.

Eventually, the media got a hold of It and turned it into a political bill to steer into any direction they wanted. Some people could make a cool video about how some organization did this thing and it was bad because it was obviously bad there's no reason to talk about why it's justified and organizations would be knocked offline and cost millions of dollars a day trying to fend off attacks that were larger in scale than the ones done to people who actually fucking attacked freedom. Now it's an authoritarian circle-jerk for those who are offended by others' freedom.



Cain, I think she's just got control issues. Not really too much deep thought involved in people who are like that. I doubt she's even capable of planning anything a week in advance unless it has to do with manipulation. She probably doesn't even have a motive other than subconscious craving of power.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2016, 01:21:28 am
Eh, she likes organizing stuff (a little too much, IMO) but it's whatever.  I mean, if my aspiration in life was to be the Queen Bee of this department, I'd probably reconsider my life priorites and kill myself, in that order.

Anyway, I wont have to deal with her crazy shit in a couple of weeks anyway, as she will be on the opposite night shift.  I'm just curious what she hopes to accomplish.  Make me look bad in front of management?  My supervisor practically spits blood every time he sees me, and has done for the past 15 months, and the department head...well, I've questioned his competence, gotten into email slanging matches with him and explained property law to him like he were a five year old, so unless she has something to top those...  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 14, 2016, 02:18:36 am
HR manager has been trying to arrange my second meeting with the CEO for longer than I may be able to resist...  I have tried explaining to her the shit-show storm of toxicity that was my first encounter with him, nearly resulting in my permanently leaving the company;  and how my capacity to still work there is built on a very tenuous compartmentalization of ethical concerns that require me not having to tolerate any exposure to said perniciously harmful hypocrisy.

Essentially, I recognize that a bigger man than myself would be able to muster or cajole the compassion nescesary to forgive this CEO for the bad faith under which he operates.  The direct interference I first experienced is something I am now technically over, and, except for rank, our positions and operations have been completely independent for years.  It's like we don't exist to each other now.  That's been great, though not entirely free from effort as a fair amount of compartmentalization still occurs just to ensure that we don't cross paths.

HR insists that things could be better, for everyone, if all that could just magically disappear.  I agree yet have reservations about how much more compartmentalization would be required to get through that second meeting.  CEO has been good about acting as if he's ready to make some concessions, though I suspect the reality is that we won't see eye to eye.  It's then hard for me not to take it personally, because I'm a human being and KNOW my fucking rights...  Anyhow, I should get back to work now. :kingmeh:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 14, 2016, 03:02:52 am
Eh, she likes organizing stuff (a little too much, IMO) but it's whatever.  I mean, if my aspiration in life was to be the Queen Bee of this department, I'd probably reconsider my life priorites and kill myself, in that order.

Anyway, I wont have to deal with her crazy shit in a couple of weeks anyway, as she will be on the opposite night shift.  I'm just curious what she hopes to accomplish.  Make me look bad in front of management?  My supervisor practically spits blood every time he sees me, and has done for the past 15 months, and the department head...well, I've questioned his competence, gotten into email slanging matches with him and explained property law to him like he were a five year old, so unless she has something to top those...  :lulz:

Cain... You're my hero! (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QCu0ECUXQBE)
I mean that. In looking for the right version to express this I passed several good options, but only this version seemed to be the not-sad essence I feel it's important to emphasize. Didn't know he did this and glad that I do now!

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on June 14, 2016, 06:42:52 pm
I landed a paid internship that involves Python, pays more than my previous job, and has a beer fridge in the office.

8)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 14, 2016, 07:14:12 pm
I landed a paid internship that involves Python, pays more than my previous job, and has a beer fridge in the office.

8)

 :dream: :banana:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 14, 2016, 11:06:27 pm
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/dance.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 15, 2016, 12:16:16 am
So the new hire is trying to gaslight me.

Problem for her: I was already pretty convinced she was wrong on all her attempts, and I got confirmation on two of them today.  Oops.  Furthermore, people in glass houses should not throw stones...and people who consistently and as a matter of record misplace master keys shouldn't try and implicate others in key loss.

I have to wonder why she cares so badly, though.  I mean, it's an open secret I don't intend to hang around anyway.

Actual lol. This will go well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 15, 2016, 02:18:43 am
I landed a paid internship that involves Python, pays more than my previous job, and has a beer fridge in the office.

8)

HOLY COCK-SHITTING FUCK!  THAT'S AWESOME!

Cain, :lulz: and congombolations!

Yay, Fernando Poo!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 15, 2016, 02:21:21 am
I got put on one medication for treating my anxiety, depression, and insomnia.  I started eating A LOT of food.  I went back to that livestrong.com place with the food and excersize tracker.  Hopeful that I won't get Jaba the Hutish and might get healthy. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pergamos on June 15, 2016, 04:42:59 am
The oranges on my orange tree are starting to go bad, so I have been juicing them and freezing it.  I have never done anything with frozen orange juice before, but I figure better to have it than not.  I filled all my ice cube trays (only 4) without making a dent in the oranges on the tree, but I figure if I keep doing it every day I can get maybe half the oranges before they go bad.  Fortunately I have a giant freezer to put the ice cubes in.

I was disappointed when I first moved here, eating the oranges, but they are not eating oranges they are juicing ones, and they make really outstanding juice.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pæs on June 15, 2016, 12:11:06 pm
I landed a paid internship that involves Python, pays more than my previous job, and has a beer fridge in the office.

8)
As someone whose workplace is mostly Python and a beer fridge, congrats. In my experience, it is exactly as sweet as it sounds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 10:47:06 pm
Yeah boy, corporate intelligence jobs.  Lets all dress up in moderately cheap suits and drink fancy coffee and pretend we're real spies n shit.

On the other hand, anything is better than this place.  At least those offices, assuming they're not stock photos, look air conditioned.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 15, 2016, 11:07:26 pm
Yeah boy, corporate intelligence jobs.  Lets all dress up in moderately cheap suits and drink fancy coffee and pretend we're real spies n shit.

On the other hand, anything is better than this place.  At least those offices, assuming they're not stock photos, look air conditioned.

Depends on the corporation, I suppose.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 11:11:10 pm
I'm mostly looking at mid-sized and botique operations, due to the larger companies either having their own in-house specialists or contracting the entire workload out on someone else (ie; G4S or Blackwater).

Some of them have some...curiously specific requirements too, in comparison to the smaller firms.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: N E T on June 16, 2016, 01:00:48 am
Thanks guys, I'm pretty excited about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 16, 2016, 09:37:31 am
I'm mostly looking at mid-sized and botique operations, due to the larger companies either having their own in-house specialists or contracting the entire workload out on someone else (ie; G4S or Blackwater).

Some of them have some...curiously specific requirements too, in comparison to the smaller firms.

Please call G4S. They're that much of a shitshow there's a reasonable chance you could be in charge of the entire thing within 5 years.

To be frank, I'd be disappointed if you weren't in control within 3.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 17, 2016, 08:19:40 pm
I think G4S, like any major crime organisation, usually want proof of your shitbaggery before letting you in.  Kinda like how you have to cap a guy before working for the mafia, they want 2 years with some dodgy third world private military force or whatever.

Also, I have confirmed my co-worker is attempting to gaslight me, after yet another incident.  I checked room keys against the fire register, found some missing keys.  Today, she tells me one of the rooms is occupied, that I must've made a mistake.  After she's gone, I check the fire list that was handed over to me yesterday.  She changed the room from empty to occupied (which it is, and should have initially been marked as) without telling me, trying to make me think I made some kind of error in judgement.

I must really be doing the meek houseparent/postgrad routine too well, if she thinks tricks like this are going to work.  On the other hand, it clearly isn't working, and I'd rather she waste time with failing strategies than switch to potentially successful ones.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 18, 2016, 12:33:16 pm
Well it's not like G4S are any good with checks so you could probably just bullshit that, if so inclined.

As for the co-worker, she sounds perfect for the place. A couple of handy pictures on your phone could be beneficial for future paperwork. Just for more fun on the way out. Is it some kind of relation/friend of existing management?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2016, 04:58:20 pm
Not that I'm aware of, though at least one person has voiced the suspicion they're some kind of plant in the office.  Her CV is bullshit though, I do know that much.

And yeah, photographic evidence was taken.  And as it turns out, she is keeping daily logs on everyone she is handing over to (foolishly, she is keeping that notebook in the office, which IMO tends to suggest she's not - unless this place is hiring bargain bin corporate spies, which is entirely possible).  Not just logs of information, assessments and appraisals of staff members, including myself. 

I also know, from that log, that a minor complaint I put in, confidentially with my own manager, was revealed to her (information about student rooms on handovers was incorrect, meaning I had to double check everything with our more extensive paperwork before actually doing it, which defeats the point of a handover.  It's not super-serious, but I asked her in an email just to take more care with the numbers, she never responded and kept making the same mistakes, so I bumped it up the chain like you do).

So maybe that's the point of her craziness.  She doesn't like the fact that she's trying to be all "I'm super efficient and look at me create useless reams of paperwork every single day because fuck the rainforest" and I'm all like "there isn't actually a 36F room in this building" and "stop losing master keys plz".
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 18, 2016, 08:00:53 pm
Jebus.  Is this what it's like to actually adult?  You have to babysit backstabbing assholes all the time?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 19, 2016, 01:31:40 am
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 19, 2016, 03:04:02 am
Christ.


Also, Cain, do I have to watch ads in their entirety for you to get credit on your Youtube videos, or can I use the "Skip to Video" button?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 19, 2016, 03:13:31 am
Not that I'm aware of, though at least one person has voiced the suspicion they're some kind of plant in the office.  Her CV is bullshit though, I do know that much.

And yeah, photographic evidence was taken.  And as it turns out, she is keeping daily logs on everyone she is handing over to (foolishly, she is keeping that notebook in the office, which IMO tends to suggest she's not - unless this place is hiring bargain bin corporate spies, which is entirely possible).  Not just logs of information, assessments and appraisals of staff members, including myself. 

I also know, from that log, that a minor complaint I put in, confidentially with my own manager, was revealed to her (information about student rooms on handovers was incorrect, meaning I had to double check everything with our more extensive paperwork before actually doing it, which defeats the point of a handover.  It's not super-serious, but I asked her in an email just to take more care with the numbers, she never responded and kept making the same mistakes, so I bumped it up the chain like you do).

So maybe that's the point of her craziness.  She doesn't like the fact that she's trying to be all "I'm super efficient and look at me create useless reams of paperwork every single day because fuck the rainforest" and I'm all like "there isn't actually a 36F room in this building" and "stop losing master keys plz".

The strongest possibility here is that one of your bosses has a big mouth and your co-worker is actually crazy.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 19, 2016, 03:50:50 am
Christ.


Also, Cain, do I have to watch ads in their entirety for you to get credit on your Youtube videos, or can I use the "Skip to Video" button?

K, so I feel like a dumbass because there doesn't appear to be any ads anymore, but you did have them at one point, so... question stands, I guess?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 19, 2016, 05:02:01 am
Jebus.  Is this what it's like to actually adult?  You have to babysit backstabbing assholes all the time?

Yes.  And then I'm responsible for the actually legal children as well.  Why do you think I'm constantly so angry?

Christ.


Also, Cain, do I have to watch ads in their entirety for you to get credit on your Youtube videos, or can I use the "Skip to Video" button?

You can skip.  I stopped monetizing videos ages ago, since I actually have a job now.  Any ads you see are either me being forgetful, or Youtube being dicks.

The strongest possibility here is that one of your bosses has a big mouth and your co-worker is actually crazy.

That's what I figure too.  Said co-worker has also being reporting everyone's browsing history to the manager.

Doesn't affect me, because I use private browsing and have now set up all the office browsers to do the same, but I compared notes with the other department, who confirmed IT were not cracking down (because once 1am rolls around there, all they do is goof off and watch films online, and they've not had a meeting about it). 

I figure what at least part of it is is that she has an MBA from some podunk former technical college and she thinks it makes her some kind of efficiency bigshot, and she's going to creatively destroy our workplace and release the power of innovation and competition, or some such crap.  You know how these MBA types are.  She'll probably have a breakdown in a few months and have to be hospitalized.  Either that or the other night shift co-worker she's on with will bludgeon her to death.  Well, once her hand has healed up from the last person she beat the crap out of.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Freeky on June 19, 2016, 05:27:40 am
Jebus.  Is this what it's like to actually adult?  You have to babysit backstabbing assholes all the time?

Yes.  And then I'm responsible for the actually legal children as well.  Why do you think I'm constantly so angry?

Because you're a really, really smart person fed up with being surrounded by malicious and stupid people all the time.  I was not aware that it was the same thing, but we live and learn.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 19, 2016, 06:20:07 am
That's what I figure too.  Said co-worker has also being reporting everyone's browsing history to the manager.

Doesn't affect me, because I use private browsing and have now set up all the office browsers to do the same, but I compared notes with the other department, who confirmed IT were not cracking down (because once 1am rolls around there, all they do is goof off and watch films online, and they've not had a meeting about it). 

I figure what at least part of it is is that she has an MBA from some podunk former technical college and she thinks it makes her some kind of efficiency bigshot, and she's going to creatively destroy our workplace and release the power of innovation and competition, or some such crap.  You know how these MBA types are.  She'll probably have a breakdown in a few months and have to be hospitalized.  Either that or the other night shift co-worker she's on with will bludgeon her to death.  Well, once her hand has healed up from the last person she beat the crap out of.

Either way, it should be entertaining.  And MBA types are the worst.  Does she speak MBA?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 19, 2016, 06:33:40 am
No, which is something of a mixed blessing.  On the one hand, I don't have to hear it, but on the other hand, I can't make of her for it.

She hasn't even mentioned externalising our core competencies yet  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Trivial on June 19, 2016, 03:36:33 pm
www.ruinmysearchhistory.com (http://www.ruinmysearchhistory.com)  Use this on her computer.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 21, 2016, 08:38:53 pm
Victor (one of my mechanics):  "So what's your deal?  You alternate between normal and bugshit."

Me:  "Boredom."

Victor:  "You go bugshit when you're bored?"

Me:  "Yes.  And then it's like shoving a stun gun up a hippopotamus's ass.  The idea that something wrong is happening has just reached his brain, and he's turning to look at you.  And you just know - like you know the sun will come up in the East - that you're going to push the button."

Victor (fixed smile on his face):  "Is this conversation boring you?"

Me:  "Of course not.  What gives you that idea?"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 21, 2016, 09:05:46 pm
I have some things bouncing in my head, but nothing is solidifying. You all will be the first to know if my brain spits out anything useful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on June 22, 2016, 05:33:59 pm
Victor (one of my mechanics):  "So what's your deal?  You alternate between normal and bugshit."

Me:  "Boredom."

Victor:  "You go bugshit when you're bored?"

Me:  "Yes.  And then it's like shoving a stun gun up a hippopotamus's ass.  The idea that something wrong is happening has just reached his brain, and he's turning to look at you.  And you just know - like you know the sun will come up in the East - that you're going to push the button."

Victor (fixed smile on his face):  "Is this conversation boring you?"

Me:  "Of course not.  What gives you that idea?"

 :lol: Gotta keep em on their toes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 22, 2016, 10:04:58 pm
So, a glycol line goes to shit, turns out it's rusted out completely, and has to be replaced by 11 AM this morning.  I tell the plumber "You're in charge, go", and then we all work under the plumber's direction and fix that shit.

But everyone is surprised because I put the plumber in charge of the plumbing job. 

People are dumb.  Who the fuck was I gonna put in charge? 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 22, 2016, 10:14:52 pm
So, a glycol line goes to shit, turns out it's rusted out completely, and has to be replaced by 11 AM this morning.  I tell the plumber "You're in charge, go", and then we all work under the plumber's direction and fix that shit.

But everyone is surprised because I put the plumber in charge of the plumbing job. 

People are dumb.  Who the fuck was I gonna put in charge?

An engineer, duh.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 22, 2016, 10:18:38 pm
MUH SSENIORITY! MUH RANKS AND REWARDS!  :aww:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 23, 2016, 03:23:57 am
Seniority really IS a thing.  Just saying.

Also, I think the commute across 60 miles of absolutely barren desert each way has drastically improved my mood and my thinking.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 23, 2016, 06:53:54 am
Today was all about the main machine's sudden advanced-acute narcolepsy, finally cured by invoking   exotic reboot calls.  Had to execute things on unmounted filesystems that "should probably not be used... giving users advance warning of their impending doom" (per unix man page :lulz:)
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 24, 2016, 01:34:09 am
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 24, 2016, 02:39:24 am
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."

I had to just stare at that for a minute trying to understand...

Failing that, badly. Isn't intentionally shooting folks in the face one of those things that you're pretty much sure you're likely to get "known and noted" for real quick in the military?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 24, 2016, 02:43:05 am
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."

I had to just stare at that for a minute trying to understand...

Failing that, badly. Isn't intentionally shooting folks in the face one of those things that you're pretty much sure you're likely to get "known and noted" for real quick in the military?

Shooting the enemy is kind of the point, really.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 24, 2016, 02:53:52 am
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."

I had to just stare at that for a minute trying to understand...

Failing that, badly. Isn't intentionally shooting folks in the face one of those things that you're pretty much sure you're likely to get "known and noted" for real quick in the military?

Shooting the enemy is kind of the point, really.

Well yeah.  I'm just... reaching I guess. Figured it's the sort of thing that would get you a rep. I mean like legality aside if someone I pretty much only know for their "I shoot faces" rep was unhappy with their ration draw, for instance, I'd be inclined to see if they could be better accommodated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 24, 2016, 08:55:32 am
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 24, 2016, 02:57:29 pm
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

 :horrormirth:

I always thought it would be neat to use a similar idea in a story. Specifically that the angels of Death working in Accounting&Omens found that some soldiers that die on a "modern" battlefield lose it and keep trying to "respawn" and keep fighting. They discovered in these cases that if you show them their "final stats" they snap out of it and realize they're dead well enough for the psychopomp to get their attention.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 24, 2016, 04:37:07 pm
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

Oh god, that reminded me of one of the most cringeworthy things I ever read on the internet:

Quote
The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men. If we really wanted to we could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower. There are plenty of veterans here. Plus everyone here knows where the magazine release is on an M16, from years of playing Call Of Duty.

Realistically the Red Pill Reaction Force would be far more effective than half the world's militaries. The Afghan military is fucked up on opium. The Iraqi army cant even do jumping jacks. . Plus New Zealand has only 8 thousand military personnel the majority of whom are useless paper pushers.

I don't actually support the violent overthrow of New Zealand. I just think its kind of a fun idea conceptualy.

And no, this wasn't a troll.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 24, 2016, 05:16:32 pm
My stuff is being delivered tomorrow.
I've been in San Diego for 3 fucking weeks.
I haven't slept on my own bed since May 24th.

The moving contractors weren't listening to me, because I didn't take his last name, and in militaryland, that's considered bad because the DoD doesn't know their asses from their elbows. I'm gonna change it, eventually, I just didn't want to deal with it during school since I had a hard enough time during my undergrad changing it back from my first marriage. This is an archaic system, but not one I can fight with the feminisms and the social justices and whatever the kids are calling it these days. I have to just deal. Paperwork? Nah, don't show us your ID, your not his wife because you don't have his last name.  :roll:

So, my husband, the chief petty officer with the fucking patience of a saint, is sick of his wife sleeping on the floor because the air mattress is doing rotten things to her back. And, without too much of a fight, they "magically" found our stuff, which was already in San Diego, and now it's getting delivered on a day they normally don't deliver.

He wasn't there when they came to pack us. Or loaded the truck. I drove across the country with a friend instead of him.
And now, I get to prep the house without him, and hope that the boat lets him off of duty tomorrow at an early time so my stomach won't fucking implode again. I discovered the true meaning of pain and suffering when my GI tract revolted on me during my thesis writing, and started manufacturing excess acid. Acid burns holes. I have a tiny ulcer in my stomach that can reduce me to cold sweats and dry heaves if I'm not medicated on a strong proton pump inhibitor, or as I've come to call them, my proton torpedoes.

Apparently, stress can fucking rip you apart. Who knew?  :lulz:

But seriously though, do not get an ulcer. DO NOT. I thought that something ruptured, and couldn't even drink water.

At least I get my couch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 24, 2016, 06:41:00 pm
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

When I was in basic ages past, there was this kid who couldn't qualify with the m16 because he was trying to only get headshots.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 24, 2016, 09:05:28 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 24, 2016, 09:09:28 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea? 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 24, 2016, 09:17:12 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea?
Friend of mine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 24, 2016, 09:18:13 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 24, 2016, 09:22:00 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea?
Friend of mine.

Disregard that friend's advice re: guns.

The M-16 came into service because the M-14 was too cumbersome and heavy because you needed to carry a shit-ton of ammunition to match the output of the AK-47, and because the alternative M2 Carbine couldn't put out enough damage to keep up, even if it was more controllable and better for sustained fire.  Thus a weapon that was the happy medium between the two was required and the M-15 and finally M-16 was developed
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 24, 2016, 09:27:50 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 24, 2016, 09:45:05 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

 :um:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 24, 2016, 10:22:07 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

 :um:
Initially, the whole "aim low" thing didn't make sense to me either, but then again, none of it does anyway.  This was that lovely theatre that also brought us Napalm and Agent Orange. :/
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 24, 2016, 10:44:47 pm
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 24, 2016, 11:11:10 pm
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

 :um:

I am saving this entire conversation.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 25, 2016, 12:08:55 am
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

 :um:

I am saving this entire conversation.  :lulz:
LuciferX: Master Tactician.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 25, 2016, 12:51:36 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2016, 12:54:02 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 25, 2016, 01:17:29 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 25, 2016, 02:12:37 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.


:um:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 25, 2016, 03:00:53 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

You've never actually fired a .22, have you? They bounce off of fucking kneecaps. M16 ammunition does not bounce off of kneecaps.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 25, 2016, 03:08:37 am
It's almost as if none of this information is easily obtainable from the internet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2016, 04:57:29 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

Yes, the tumble is the gory bit.  But the longer barrel of the M16 also means more of the propellant burns, meaning the round goes a hell of a lot faster, which drastically increases the maximum range of the bullet AND increases the tumble effect (gruesomely known as "putting some English on it").

And the tumble can kind of suck, because I've had rounds hit twigs and go spinning off into the blue.  But when it hits a human, the tumble makes it follow the bones, so you hit the guy in the leg, and it maybe comes out of his head.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 25, 2016, 05:13:40 am
I think I'm going to make a new policy that, when students try to convince me to let a guest of the opposite sex, late at night, come up to their room, to say to them "so the genital herpes cleared up?  Awesome" and give them two thumbs up.
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Post by: Cain on June 25, 2016, 05:21:17 am
I may be kind of a jerk.
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Post by: Suu on June 25, 2016, 07:04:35 am
I think I'm going to make a new policy that, when students try to convince me to let a guest of the opposite sex, late at night, come up to their room, to say to them "so the genital herpes cleared up?  Awesome" and give them two thumbs up.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Even better, to catch said partner in the hall or such, and go, "Tell so-and-so that the pharmacist called, his/her Valtrex (or insert UK version here) scrip is ready to be picked up tomorrow."
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Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 25, 2016, 08:06:22 am
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

Yes, the tumble is the gory bit.  But the longer barrel of the M16 also means more of the propellant burns, meaning the round goes a hell of a lot faster, which drastically increases the maximum range of the bullet AND increases the tumble effect (gruesomely known as "putting some English on it").

And the tumble can kind of suck, because I've had rounds hit twigs and go spinning off into the blue.  But when it hits a human, the tumble makes it follow the bones, so you hit the guy in the leg, and it maybe comes out of his head.

I think there's a similar term in pool for the kind of spin that can ride a rail or directly effect cue ball position after its first strike.

Your bone would be the rail and your flesh the "air" it's tearing through. Nice.

I always liked the term, "putting some English on it". Now there's something more!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 25, 2016, 05:17:28 pm
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

Yes, the tumble is the gory bit.  But the longer barrel of the M16 also means more of the propellant burns, meaning the round goes a hell of a lot faster, which drastically increases the maximum range of the bullet AND increases the tumble effect (gruesomely known as "putting some English on it").

And the tumble can kind of suck, because I've had rounds hit twigs and go spinning off into the blue.  But when it hits a human, the tumble makes it follow the bones, so you hit the guy in the leg, and it maybe comes out of his head.

I think there's a similar term in pool for the kind of spin that can ride a rail or directly effect cue ball position after its first strike.

Your bone would be the rail and your flesh the "air" it's tearing through. Nice.

I always liked the term, "putting some English on it". Now there's something more!

Shit like this always makes me uncomfortable when civilians say it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 25, 2016, 08:16:20 pm
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

Yes, the tumble is the gory bit.  But the longer barrel of the M16 also means more of the propellant burns, meaning the round goes a hell of a lot faster, which drastically increases the maximum range of the bullet AND increases the tumble effect (gruesomely known as "putting some English on it").

And the tumble can kind of suck, because I've had rounds hit twigs and go spinning off into the blue.  But when it hits a human, the tumble makes it follow the bones, so you hit the guy in the leg, and it maybe comes out of his head.

I think there's a similar term in pool for the kind of spin that can ride a rail or directly effect cue ball position after its first strike.

Your bone would be the rail and your flesh the "air" it's tearing through. Nice.

I always liked the term, "putting some English on it". Now there's something more!

Shit like this always makes me uncomfortable when civilians say it.

I tried to adequately reply to this. I'm in a bit of a rush and have much on my agenda, just got back to my hometown and gonna be seeing folks and partying till tomorrow at least. I'll give it my best when I can and post it to a thread about myself I've been procrastinating about.

Long story short, I'm not like the other kids. I'm not proud of it. I have a lot to say on the subject of violence by way of nature and personal experience. I'm proud of some of my particular deeds and experiences... mostly not.

Sorry if I creeped you out man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 25, 2016, 10:13:44 pm
The M-16's calibre is the NATO standard, replacing the  7.62×51mm standard from the 1950s because with improvements to weapon rates of fire, they were responsible for too much recoil and not taking advantage of the improved automatic rate of fire.

At the expense of killing-capacity/range:
Quote
A U.S. Army study found that the 5.56 mm bullets fired from M-4s don’t retain enough velocity at distances greater than 1,000 feet (300 meters) to kill an adversary. In hilly regions of Afghanistan, NATO and insurgent forces are often 2,000 to 2,500 feet (600-800 meters) apart.


An M4 is not an M16.  It has a shorter barrel.  Do I need to explain why that is important in a firearm?
You may gain some accuracy, however, the round being fired is still essentially the size of a .22.  What surprised me is how they explain most of the bullet's damage coming from how it "tumbles" through it's target.

Yes, the tumble is the gory bit.  But the longer barrel of the M16 also means more of the propellant burns, meaning the round goes a hell of a lot faster, which drastically increases the maximum range of the bullet AND increases the tumble effect (gruesomely known as "putting some English on it").

And the tumble can kind of suck, because I've had rounds hit twigs and go spinning off into the blue.  But when it hits a human, the tumble makes it follow the bones, so you hit the guy in the leg, and it maybe comes out of his head.

I get it.  So the round would still be accelerating as it passes through the barrel. 

Seconding TWJ, that is terribly gnarly expression.  :horrormirth:


Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 26, 2016, 01:21:27 am
It originated as a billiards term. At least as far as I know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 26, 2016, 01:32:14 am
It originated as a billiards term. At least as far as I know.

This was where I was coming from as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 26, 2016, 02:13:12 am
When someone who is removed from the kind of violence being talked about talks about things like how nice of a turn of phrase "putting some English on it" it's chilling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 26, 2016, 04:53:42 am
It's really very unexpected.  The difference is in the projection, I think, going from something that is turning in the wrong direction, to one that is written in cursive (calligraphy, not snoorker to me).
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2016, 06:24:42 am
So, my son is home on leave today.  Picked him up at the airport, we all had a nice dinner, and now he's out drinking shit American beer and chasing ass.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 26, 2016, 01:42:03 pm
Is he thinking career, or doing his four years and out?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 26, 2016, 02:09:42 pm
Based on my limited experience with Blandford Forum Royal Signals Corp personnel, that sounds about right.  Though the nice meal is promising - it means you wont have to do too much retraining if he decides to go civilian again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 26, 2016, 02:17:52 pm
Oh shit, I am definitely drunk.  Please disregard anything posted in, lets say, the last hour from this post and the next 3 hours, unless it seems like it actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 26, 2016, 03:46:08 pm
When someone who is removed from the kind of violence being talked about talks about things like how nice of a turn of phrase "putting some English on it" it's chilling.

I have an upsetting, very icy side. I chose not to enter the military because of it in part. For me the choice to abandon violence, and coercion through it's threat, was an acknowledgement of a potentially dangerous part of my nature that I dare not abrogate responsibility for. It was a spiritual choice, tale forthcoming.

I may not be so removed from what I described as you may think. If I understand what you said that would be even less comfortable in that light. I am not an ignorant civilian glibly making a joke out of that ignorance, but a frighteningly aware one with an often broken sense of humor. I try very hard to be a good person and have many healthy outlets for the vicious aspects of myself, but that only became possible because I chose, and continually Strive, to be what I am.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 26, 2016, 03:48:15 pm
Oh shit, I am definitely drunk.  Please disregard anything posted in, lets say, the last hour from this post and the next 3 hours, unless it seems like it actually makes sense.

Bare your soul Cain! The times have turned and the season for weeping and gnashing of teeth is here. Might as well post some cool shit!
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 26, 2016, 05:49:29 pm
Oh shit, I am definitely drunk.  Please disregard anything posted in, lets say, the last hour from this post and the next 3 hours, unless it seems like it actually makes sense.
        Fap material doesn't have to make sense
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  DO A RANT!
      \     POST MORE! POST MORE!
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 :angrymob:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 26, 2016, 06:12:43 pm
When someone who is removed from the kind of violence being talked about talks about things like how nice of a turn of phrase "putting some English on it" it's chilling.

I have an upsetting, very icy side. I chose not to enter the military because of it in part. For me the choice to abandon violence, and coercion through it's threat, was an acknowledgement of a potentially dangerous part of my nature that I dare not abrogate responsibility for. It was a spiritual choice, tale forthcoming.

I may not be so removed from what I described as you may think. If I understand what you said that would be even less comfortable in that light. I am not an ignorant civilian glibly making a joke out of that ignorance, but a frighteningly aware one with an often broken sense of humor. I try very hard to be a good person and have many healthy outlets for the vicious aspects of myself, but that only became possible because I chose, and continually Strive, to be what I am.

All that sounds super edgelord.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 26, 2016, 08:05:44 pm
When someone who is removed from the kind of violence being talked about talks about things like how nice of a turn of phrase "putting some English on it" it's chilling.

I have an upsetting, very icy side. I chose not to enter the military because of it in part. For me the choice to abandon violence, and coercion through it's threat, was an acknowledgement of a potentially dangerous part of my nature that I dare not abrogate responsibility for. It was a spiritual choice, tale forthcoming.

I may not be so removed from what I described as you may think. If I understand what you said that would be even less comfortable in that light. I am not an ignorant civilian glibly making a joke out of that ignorance, but a frighteningly aware one with an often broken sense of humor. I try very hard to be a good person and have many healthy outlets for the vicious aspects of myself, but that only became possible because I chose, and continually Strive, to be what I am.

All that sounds super edgelord.

I was going to jest as well, but he contributes quite a bit to discussion around here and is quite reasonable.

Nice-guy edginess aside, his original statement didn't seem to me like it was doting the connection of the word to the violence. It seemed like he was doting the connection of the physics of a game of pool to the word, and how that was similarly connected to the bullet physics. Methinks he was just intrigued by the accuracy of the analogy created by the word.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 27, 2016, 01:38:38 am
Had a coworker argue with me to the end of the Earth, today, that programming, web development/design, and other obviously IT fields "aren't IT jobs" because they aren't in networking/communications. He had somehow come to the conclusion that his 2 years of college trumped the dictionary definition of the word.

I advised him that one didn't need a college education to read the dictionary. When he pulled up the definition in the dictionary, he decided to backpedal a little bit, dig his heels in, and attack straw man arguments that I never made. Of course, the definition proved me to be right. And on pointing that out, he began to screech, and accuse me of disrespecting him as a programmer.

He told me that it was offensive to tell programmers that their work was copied. How he got that out of "Programmers use systems that are already in place, like operating systems and programs, to create and develop more programs and systems, defining them as IT specialists," I have no idea. But it grabbed the attention of the nearest megalomaniac douchebag, who created a semantics argument so vague and confusing, that I simply had to put on my headphones and ignore them.

Am I just a lazy fuckwit who's been living under a rock all this time? Or is programming a fucking IT job?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Pergamos on June 27, 2016, 01:45:14 am
it only matters if IT jobs are treated differently than non IT jobs in some way, and if so which of those ways programmers should be treated.  Otherwise it is a completely meaningless distinction.

Also, most of a programmers work is copied, if she is any good at her job, but knowing where to find what she needs to copy is a big part of why she is good at it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 27, 2016, 02:56:10 am
When someone who is removed from the kind of violence being talked about talks about things like how nice of a turn of phrase "putting some English on it" it's chilling.

I have an upsetting, very icy side. I chose not to enter the military because of it in part. For me the choice to abandon violence, and coercion through it's threat, was an acknowledgement of a potentially dangerous part of my nature that I dare not abrogate responsibility for. It was a spiritual choice, tale forthcoming.

I may not be so removed from what I described as you may think. If I understand what you said that would be even less comfortable in that light. I am not an ignorant civilian glibly making a joke out of that ignorance, but a frighteningly aware one with an often broken sense of humor. I try very hard to be a good person and have many healthy outlets for the vicious aspects of myself, but that only became possible because I chose, and continually Strive, to be what I am.

All that sounds super edgelord.

Yeah. Big difference is that an edgelord or whatever needs a fantasy and so becomes a twat telling folks the tale ad nauseum to reinforce it over and over. I'll tell my story and be done. If your comments hadn't provoked in me a need to tell it, or I didn't have respect for you or for the folks here, it wouldn't get told at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 27, 2016, 03:09:43 am
Oh shit, I am definitely drunk.  Please disregard anything posted in, lets say, the last hour from this post and the next 3 hours, unless it seems like it actually makes sense.
Can't say I blame you.

On a personal note, I apologize for making dumb jokes on your facebook Brexit threads. That shit is terrifying and sad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2016, 05:19:16 am
Is he thinking career, or doing his four years and out?

Naw, they bored him.  His 5 year term ends this fall.

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 27, 2016, 05:30:56 am
Is he thinking career, or doing his four years and out?

Naw, they bored him.  His 5 year term ends this fall.

Why does that make me feel old. I could have sworn he just enlisted.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2016, 05:33:25 am
Is he thinking career, or doing his four years and out?

Naw, they bored him.  His 5 year term ends this fall.

Why does that make me feel old. I could have sworn he just enlisted.

Isn't it appalling?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2016, 10:29:17 am
Oh shit, I am definitely drunk.  Please disregard anything posted in, lets say, the last hour from this post and the next 3 hours, unless it seems like it actually makes sense.
Can't say I blame you.

On a personal note, I apologize for making dumb jokes on your facebook Brexit threads. That shit is terrifying and sad.

It's fine.  I mean, what else can you do?  The people have spoken, and what they have said is "derp".  Quickly followed by "oh shit, I didn't think my vote counted."

So right now, there's not much else to do about it, except joke, watch the news and drink heavily. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LuciferX on June 27, 2016, 08:33:20 pm
Had a coworker argue with me to the end of the Earth, today, that programming, web development/design, and other obviously IT fields "aren't IT jobs" because they aren't in networking/communications. He had somehow come to the conclusion that his 2 years of college trumped the dictionary definition of the word.

I advised him that one didn't need a college education to read the dictionary. When he pulled up the definition in the dictionary, he decided to backpedal a little bit, dig his heels in, and attack straw man arguments that I never made. Of course, the definition proved me to be right. And on pointing that out, he began to screech, and accuse me of disrespecting him as a programmer.

He told me that it was offensive to tell programmers that their work was copied. How he got that out of "Programmers use systems that are already in place, like operating systems and programs, to create and develop more programs and systems, defining them as IT specialists," I have no idea. But it grabbed the attention of the nearest megalomaniac douchebag, who created a semantics argument so vague and confusing, that I simply had to put on my headphones and ignore them.

Am I just a lazy fuckwit who's been living under a rock all this time? Or is programming a fucking IT job?
I have no idea.  Try calling him a "script-kiddie" next time and see how he reacts.  Perhaps that's the designation he's resisting?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 27, 2016, 09:12:45 pm
One of my job applications for adjunct faculty was upgraded from "in progress" to "under review by HR." Not that this means anything because I know most of these systems are automated, but it's nice to know that my application made the initial screening process at this particular college.  I suppose that in the coming weeks I should come up with a few sample syllabi just in case.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 28, 2016, 02:01:56 am
I am now trolling the piss out of some crazy bitch in Florida who is terrified of chemicals by telling her about the occurrence of dodecarbonate in all oils, and how lauric acid dodecarbonate, which is a prime component of coconut oil, is also present in cheap shampoo and has been infecting her cells since conception.

Fucking oil pullers, telling me I don't know chemistry, when CARBON 12 IS PRESENT IN EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Template on June 28, 2016, 03:46:42 am
I am now trolling the piss out of some crazy bitch in Florida who is terrified of chemicals by telling her about the occurrence of dodecarbonate in all oils, and how lauric acid dodecarbonate, which is a prime component of coconut oil, is also present in cheap shampoo and has been infecting her cells since conception.

Fucking oil pullers, telling me I don't know chemistry, when CARBON 12 IS PRESENT IN EVERYTHING.

What's an oil puller there?
Are you sure you have those systematic names right? I see wikipedia says lauric acid = dodecanoic acid. Carbon-12 is also the most abundant isotope of carbon, though, so I can't really be sure what you're saying here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 28, 2016, 03:09:50 pm
Oil puller = olive oil mouthwash.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2016, 04:38:09 pm
I am now trolling the piss out of some crazy bitch in Florida who is terrified of chemicals by telling her about the occurrence of dodecarbonate in all oils, and how lauric acid dodecarbonate, which is a prime component of coconut oil, is also present in cheap shampoo and has been infecting her cells since conception.

Fucking oil pullers, telling me I don't know chemistry, when CARBON 12 IS PRESENT IN EVERYTHING.

What's an oil puller there?
Are you sure you have those systematic names right? I see wikipedia says lauric acid = dodecanoic acid. Carbon-12 is also the most abundant isotope of carbon, though, so I can't really be sure what you're saying here.

It's like a fucking clown car up in this bitch, full of pedantic clowns with no social filter, fucking the joke with a saggy banana while the clown car catches fire because it's electric.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 28, 2016, 05:15:25 pm
Had a coworker argue with me to the end of the Earth, today, that programming, web development/design, and other obviously IT fields "aren't IT jobs" because they aren't in networking/communications. He had somehow come to the conclusion that his 2 years of college trumped the dictionary definition of the word.

I advised him that one didn't need a college education to read the dictionary. When he pulled up the definition in the dictionary, he decided to backpedal a little bit, dig his heels in, and attack straw man arguments that I never made. Of course, the definition proved me to be right. And on pointing that out, he began to screech, and accuse me of disrespecting him as a programmer.

He told me that it was offensive to tell programmers that their work was copied. How he got that out of "Programmers use systems that are already in place, like operating systems and programs, to create and develop more programs and systems, defining them as IT specialists," I have no idea. But it grabbed the attention of the nearest megalomaniac douchebag, who created a semantics argument so vague and confusing, that I simply had to put on my headphones and ignore them.

Am I just a lazy fuckwit who's been living under a rock all this time? Or is programming a fucking IT job?
I have no idea.  Try calling him a "script-kiddie" next time and see how he reacts.  Perhaps that's the designation he's resisting?

He's just a pedantic, special snowflake little bitch. He wanted to seem cool by claiming his field wasn't an IT job, "contrary to popular belief."

The thing is, he's not a script kiddie, and otherwise, he's very intelligent. His ego just blinds him sometimes, and it makes him insufferable.

it only matters if IT jobs are treated differently than non IT jobs in some way, and if so which of those ways programmers should be treated.  Otherwise it is a completely meaningless distinction.

Also, most of a programmers work is copied, if she is any good at her job, but knowing where to find what she needs to copy is a big part of why she is good at it.

I agree, it would be a useless distinction, if there was one. And yes, programmers do use libraries and modules created by others, and even chunks of code if they're feeling lazy or don't want to reinvent the wheel. The funny thing is, he's told me that before, using almost the same words you did.

He'll just say anything he needs to if he feels like his intelligence is being questioned. It probably didn't help that when I laughed in his face at what he said. That's not very cool  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 28, 2016, 07:46:45 pm
I am now trolling the piss out of some crazy bitch in Florida who is terrified of chemicals by telling her about the occurrence of dodecarbonate in all oils, and how lauric acid dodecarbonate, which is a prime component of coconut oil, is also present in cheap shampoo and has been infecting her cells since conception.

Fucking oil pullers, telling me I don't know chemistry, when CARBON 12 IS PRESENT IN EVERYTHING.

What's an oil puller there?
Are you sure you have those systematic names right? I see wikipedia says lauric acid = dodecanoic acid. Carbon-12 is also the most abundant isotope of carbon, though, so I can't really be sure what you're saying here.

Short version: She's a crunchy anti-vaxxer that uses coconut oil as a mouthwash because it heals cavities and doesn't have chemicals. Yes, cavity healing. It's a thing. I have no idea HOW.

Everything is made of chemicals. So when I dropped a bunch of useless, incorrect jargon on her, she freaked out. Apparently the idea of oil being full of Carbon-12 scared the shit out of her. I also told her that it's so abundant, that it's in us from the moment of conception. This is the level of ignorance the Food Babe breeds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 28, 2016, 07:57:18 pm
Had a coworker argue with me to the end of the Earth, today, that programming, web development/design, and other obviously IT fields "aren't IT jobs" because they aren't in networking/communications. He had somehow come to the conclusion that his 2 years of college trumped the dictionary definition of the word.

I advised him that one didn't need a college education to read the dictionary. When he pulled up the definition in the dictionary, he decided to backpedal a little bit, dig his heels in, and attack straw man arguments that I never made. Of course, the definition proved me to be right. And on pointing that out, he began to screech, and accuse me of disrespecting him as a programmer.

He told me that it was offensive to tell programmers that their work was copied. How he got that out of "Programmers use systems that are already in place, like operating systems and programs, to create and develop more programs and systems, defining them as IT specialists," I have no idea. But it grabbed the attention of the nearest megalomaniac douchebag, who created a semantics argument so vague and confusing, that I simply had to put on my headphones and ignore them.

Am I just a lazy fuckwit who's been living under a rock all this time? Or is programming a fucking IT job?
I have no idea.  Try calling him a "script-kiddie" next time and see how he reacts.  Perhaps that's the designation he's resisting?

He's just a pedantic, special snowflake little bitch. He wanted to seem cool by claiming his field wasn't an IT job, "contrary to popular belief."

The thing is, he's not a script kiddie, and otherwise, he's very intelligent. His ego just blinds him sometimes, and it makes him insufferable.

it only matters if IT jobs are treated differently than non IT jobs in some way, and if so which of those ways programmers should be treated.  Otherwise it is a completely meaningless distinction.

Also, most of a programmers work is copied, if she is any good at her job, but knowing where to find what she needs to copy is a big part of why she is good at it.

I agree, it would be a useless distinction, if there was one. And yes, programmers do use libraries and modules created by others, and even chunks of code if they're feeling lazy or don't want to reinvent the wheel. The funny thing is, he's told me that before, using almost the same words you did.

He'll just say anything he needs to if he feels like his intelligence is being questioned. It probably didn't help that when I laughed in his face at what he said. That's not very cool  :lulz:

Sounds like he thinks having an associates degree in programming makes him feel "above" an IT job, even though he has an IT job. How old is he? 22?

Just start calling him an IT Programmer, and just wait for the magic smoke to come out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 28, 2016, 07:58:36 pm
Call him a bargain-basement circuit-jockey.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Suu on June 28, 2016, 08:18:34 pm
Call him a bargain-basement circuit-jockey.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 01:50:46 am
So.

A week or so, my boss tells me I'm off probation, with the official letter due today.  Last Thursday, he demands - based on one janitor's (Debra) griping - that I fire the lady I just hired out of the kitchen (Tonya).  There's old HR stuff there, and so he wants me to fire her so he isn't The Guy in a labor board/legal issue.  Roger didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday and I don't find myself inclined to fire a single mother of three because Debra had a feud with Tonya's mother (who died YEARS ago), so I decline to fire her.  (There are no grounds to fire her except that her change of jobs restarted her probationary period, even though she's been there for 7 years, and you can fire someone on probation for any reason or no reason at all.)

So today, my paperwork says my probation is being extended until October 31st.  which just happens to be the last day of the fiscal year.  Nobody before has had their probation extended (they have either been let go or taken off of probation), and in my 20 years of doing this kind of work, I have never seen any one survive an extended probation.

Results:
1.  My career is toast.  May as well just accept it.
2.  Because of that, the promotion I was arranging for Debra based on her seniority isn't going to happen, because I now very tragically lack the juice to make it happen.
3.  There will be butthurt about that, and about a whole lot more.
4.  Looking for a new job, while I still have this one (which all depends on how long it takes for the boss to "suggest" getting rid of Tonya again, whereupon I will refuse and then my probation will end as I am found to be unsuitable for the job anyway.)

This all sucks, because I love the place, but I can't work for a weasel.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 29, 2016, 02:10:08 am
What kind of fuckery is this?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 02:12:01 am
What kind of fuckery is this?

Academia.

which I do not recommend.

On the other hand, on Thursday there will be a gigantic radioactive pile of fuckery, and I shall be squatting on top of it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 29, 2016, 02:50:42 am
What kind of fuckery is this?

Academia.

which I do not recommend.

On the other hand, on Thursday there will be a gigantic radioactive pile of fuckery, and I shall be squatting on top of it.
Shit Roger. Sorry man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 02:54:47 am
What kind of fuckery is this?

Academia.

which I do not recommend.

On the other hand, on Thursday there will be a gigantic radioactive pile of fuckery, and I shall be squatting on top of it.
Shit Roger. Sorry man.

Thanks.

what pisses me off the most is that this guy thought I was his errand boy.

Also, given this extension, he will approach me within 2 weeks with the intent to get me to fire her.  which I won't do. 

Even if I did, I would be immediately let go.  So either way, if one of us goes, the other is instantly fucked.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 29, 2016, 04:10:36 am
Sounds like he thinks having an associates degree in programming makes him feel "above" an IT job, even though he has an IT job. How old is he? 22?

Just start calling him an IT Programmer, and just wait for the magic smoke to come out.

Just about that age. Slightly older, maybe. Just a few years older than I am.

I would be insufferable to him if I didn't depend on his experience and information, at times. We are a team, all working in the same cubicle. And that means we have to get along and be able to work together, to an extent. We have our disagreements. But, for now, it's best to just vent on here when he pulls this shit.

Call him a bargain-basement circuit-jockey.

 :lulz: OMG, the moment I pass him on the ladder, that's going to be his new contact name in all of my chat programs at work. And HOLY SHIT is management gonna love that name.

The supervisors hate this guy so much, due to his constant whining, that they had to move him to a new supervisor.

They tried to say it was because of a staffing numbers thing. Even he wasn't stoopid enough to believe that  :lulz:

So.

A week or so, my boss tells me I'm off probation, with the official letter due today.  Last Thursday, he demands - based on one janitor's (Debra) griping - that I fire the lady I just hired out of the kitchen (Tonya).  There's old HR stuff there, and so he wants me to fire her so he isn't The Guy in a labor board/legal issue.  Roger didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday and I don't find myself inclined to fire a single mother of three because Debra had a feud with Tonya's mother (who died YEARS ago), so I decline to fire her.  (There are no grounds to fire her except that her change of jobs restarted her probationary period, even though she's been there for 7 years, and you can fire someone on probation for any reason or no reason at all.)

So today, my paperwork says my probation is being extended until October 31st.  which just happens to be the last day of the fiscal year.  Nobody before has had their probation extended (they have either been let go or taken off of probation), and in my 20 years of doing this kind of work, I have never seen any one survive an extended probation.

Results:
1.  My career is toast.  May as well just accept it.
2.  Because of that, the promotion I was arranging for Debra based on her seniority isn't going to happen, because I now very tragically lack the juice to make it happen.
3.  There will be butthurt about that, and about a whole lot more.
4.  Looking for a new job, while I still have this one (which all depends on how long it takes for the boss to "suggest" getting rid of Tonya again, whereupon I will refuse and then my probation will end as I am found to be unsuitable for the job anyway.)

This all sucks, because I love the place, but I can't work for a weasel.

That is 100% fucked, Roger. I am very sorry to hear that. What a spineless piece of shit, that man. Knows he has no justification for the action, so he puts it onto someone else. That is fucking horseshit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 29, 2016, 09:18:15 am
What kind of fuckery is this?

Academia.

which I do not recommend.

On the other hand, on Thursday there will be a gigantic radioactive pile of fuckery, and I shall be squatting on top of it.
Shit Roger. Sorry man.

Thanks.

what pisses me off the most is that this guy thought I was his errand boy.

Also, given this extension, he will approach me within 2 weeks with the intent to get me to fire her.  which I won't do. 

Even if I did, I would be immediately let go.  So either way, if one of us goes, the other is instantly fucked.

This is a heap of bullshit. I can't say I disagree with your assessment of the probationary shit either, I've seen that crap pulled in a few places and the results are predictable and inevitable.

So, what blackmail do you currently have on this toad and what can you arrange? I think we've just found sloppy bob at a minimum. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 29, 2016, 01:41:26 pm
Roger, I sorry to hear that shit-throwing monkeys are (once again) getting in the way of Good Things.

On the other hand, I am always impressed by the strength of your principles and convictions.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2016, 04:09:25 pm
Come work with me, Roger.

We have an opening on the day shift.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 29, 2016, 05:14:06 pm
38 years old and I finally got a Big Boy Job.

Start training tomorrow. Real money, great benefits, no management responsibilities required to obtain said money and benefits. Still get to play with food for a living (good, real food no less) but I'll be goddamned if I ever subject myself to the restaurant industry again in this life or any other. There's a serious rant brewing about that, and when it forms cohesive paragraphs it'll probably ruin going out to eat for the rest of you, if you have any sort of moral compass at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 05:20:51 pm
Come work with me, Roger.

We have an opening on the day shift.

will there be wrath and horror and people running around asking why we DO such things?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 05:23:00 pm
38 years old and I finally got a Big Boy Job.

That's about how old I was.

Start training tomorrow. Real money, great benefits, no management responsibilities required to obtain said money and benefits. Still get to play with food for a living (good, real food no less) but I'll be goddamned if I ever subject myself to the restaurant industry again in this life or any other. There's a serious rant brewing about that, and when it forms cohesive paragraphs it'll probably ruin going out to eat for the rest of you, if you have any sort of moral compass at all.

I am so down.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 29, 2016, 05:25:17 pm
On the other hand, I am always impressed by the strength of your principles and convictions.

Thanks.  It's a combination of "what kind of world do you want?" and "don't disappoint Jenn's expectations", really, though.

Good luck.

It's a little late for luck, but thanks again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on June 29, 2016, 05:36:31 pm
Roger, I sorry to hear that shit-throwing monkeys are (once again) getting in the way of Good Things.

On the other hand, I am always impressed by the strength of your principles and convictions.

Good luck.

Ditto on all counts. Though not all businesses will be like this, it's slimy under-handed politics and stupid drama like this that makes me glad the office staff here consists of me.

The cowardice in his not even being able do it himself, especially without any grounds to stand on, is disgusting.

But as others have said, I do admire your resoluteness in sticking to your principles. Best of luck.

ETA: In light of your comment above re: luck, best hopes for things to go as well as can be expected considering the circumstances and a pox on all their houses.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 29, 2016, 05:43:11 pm
38 years old and I finally got a Big Boy Job.

That's about how old I was.

Start training tomorrow. Real money, great benefits, no management responsibilities required to obtain said money and benefits. Still get to play with food for a living (good, real food no less) but I'll be goddamned if I ever subject myself to the restaurant industry again in this life or any other. There's a serious rant brewing about that, and when it forms cohesive paragraphs it'll probably ruin going out to eat for the rest of you, if you have any sort of moral compass at all.

I am so down.

I just had the best worst idea ever.

Some fine day in the future, you and I should run a food truck together.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 29, 2016, 06:14:41 pm
I foresee a culinary Abbot and Costello.

You're both big bastards though.

What's a succinct re-wording of "you break it, I'll fix it?"
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2016, 06:23:02 pm
Come work with me, Roger.

We have an opening on the day shift.

will there be wrath and horror and people running around asking why we DO such things?

Every single day.  I can say that with certainty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 29, 2016, 06:51:02 pm
I foresee a culinary Abbot and Costello.

You're both big bastards though.

What's a succinct re-wording of "you break it, I'll fix it?"

You kill it, we fry it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: LMNO on June 29, 2016, 07:04:44 pm
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 29, 2016, 07:18:12 pm
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 29, 2016, 08:25:33 pm
So.

A week or so, my boss tells me I'm off probation, with the official letter due today.  Last Thursday, he demands - based on one janitor's (Debra) griping - that I fire the lady I just hired out of the kitchen (Tonya).  There's old HR stuff there, and so he wants me to fire her so he isn't The Guy in a labor board/legal issue.  Roger didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday and I don't find myself inclined to fire a single mother of three because Debra had a feud with Tonya's mother (who died YEARS ago), so I decline to fire her.  (There are no grounds to fire her except that her change of jobs restarted her probationary period, even though she's been there for 7 years, and you can fire someone on probation for any reason or no reason at all.)

So today, my paperwork says my probation is being extended until October 31st.  which just happens to be the last day of the fiscal year.  Nobody before has had their probation extended (they have either been let go or taken off of probation), and in my 20 years of doing this kind of work, I have never seen any one survive an extended probation.

Results:
1.  My career is toast.  May as well just accept it.
2.  Because of that, the promotion I was arranging for Debra based on her seniority isn't going to happen, because I now very tragically lack the juice to make it happen.
3.  There will be butthurt about that, and about a whole lot more.
4.  Looking for a new job, while I still have this one (which all depends on how long it takes for the boss to "suggest" getting rid of Tonya again, whereupon I will refuse and then my probation will end as I am found to be unsuitable for the job anyway.)

This all sucks, because I love the place, but I can't work for a weasel.

What the absolute hell  :argh!:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 29, 2016, 09:25:58 pm
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

Roger is so not meant to prepare food that the universe warps probability so things always burst into flames.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 29, 2016, 11:22:33 pm
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

Roger is so not meant to prepare food that the universe warps probability so things always burst into flames.

 :eek:  :lulz:

Roger should cater my next family gathering on my Dad's side. I'll show up late  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 30, 2016, 02:23:11 am
38 years old and I finally got a Big Boy Job.

That's about how old I was.

Start training tomorrow. Real money, great benefits, no management responsibilities required to obtain said money and benefits. Still get to play with food for a living (good, real food no less) but I'll be goddamned if I ever subject myself to the restaurant industry again in this life or any other. There's a serious rant brewing about that, and when it forms cohesive paragraphs it'll probably ruin going out to eat for the rest of you, if you have any sort of moral compass at all.

I am so down.

I just had the best worst idea ever.

Some fine day in the future, you and I should run a food truck together.

LADY OR THE TIGER.

By which I mean

FOODIE HEAVEN OR EVERYTHING EXPLODED AND EVERYBODY DIED.

Buy the ticket, take the ride.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 30, 2016, 02:23:39 am
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

Roger is so not meant to prepare food that the universe warps probability so things always burst into flames.

Could have happened to anybody, really.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 30, 2016, 02:24:48 am
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

I don't recommend it.  2 kitchen fires, a notch out of my ear, a skillet through the (closed) window, and I failed spectacularly at toast.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Don Coyote on June 30, 2016, 07:37:56 am
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

Roger is so not meant to prepare food that the universe warps probability so things always burst into flames.

Could have happened to anybody, really.

Could have, but yet, really only happens to you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 30, 2016, 09:33:36 am
I'm not sure you understand Roger and ECH's various relationships with food preparation.

Probably not. Should I be checking out Discordian Recipes for examples?

I don't recommend it.  2 kitchen fires, a notch out of my ear, a skillet through the (closed) window, and I failed spectacularly at toast.

What genius let you near a skillet? Those fucking things are just designed to burn everything around them anyway so giving one to you was just asking for that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
Post by: PoFP on June 30, 2016, 01:13:10 pm