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Title: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 01, 2019, 08:53:02 pm
It's time.

Already. 

Stop screaming, you're upsetting the goldfish.


Kicking off this horrorshow, Bernie Sanders misses an excellent chance to shut his big fat spoiler face:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sanders-says-hes-not-interested-in-asking-hillary-clinton-for-2020-advice/ar-BBUg7Ga?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Faust on March 04, 2019, 04:45:02 pm
The path to another 4 years of trump is being set up already :(
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2019, 05:48:20 pm
Trump also now has legal incentives to fuck with the election as much as possible, since, in practice, sitting Presidents are almost immune from prosectuion.

And boy are there a lot of prosecutions coming his way.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2019, 04:22:56 am
This struck me is pretty weird. Of particular interest to me is the bit about the "affirmations" that the Democrats want.


https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700121429/bernie-sanders-files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190304&fbclid=IwAR29-5sfYHCks2JuZxrVsi23Dww4UiTH6HPHu61ZUVcvXTYkMg3P8AUxCIU
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2019, 04:49:23 am
This struck me is pretty weird. Of particular interest to me is the bit about the "affirmations" that the Democrats want.


https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700121429/bernie-sanders-files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190304&fbclid=IwAR29-5sfYHCks2JuZxrVsi23Dww4UiTH6HPHu61ZUVcvXTYkMg3P8AUxCIU

The affirmations don't apply in this case.  The blowhard is running for president as a democrat and for the senate as an independent.  The affirmations only say he will run as a democrat in the presidential campaign.

Doesn't change the fact that he's a bastard spoiler, though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2019, 03:56:26 pm
This struck me is pretty weird. Of particular interest to me is the bit about the "affirmations" that the Democrats want.


https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700121429/bernie-sanders-files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190304&fbclid=IwAR29-5sfYHCks2JuZxrVsi23Dww4UiTH6HPHu61ZUVcvXTYkMg3P8AUxCIU

The affirmations don't apply in this case.  The blowhard is running for president as a democrat and for the senate as an independent.  The affirmations only say he will run as a democrat in the presidential campaign.

Doesn't change the fact that he's a bastard spoiler, though.

I don't think he's going to win the nomination. There's still a fair number of fanatical Bernie fans out there, but I don't think he's going to get the nomination for Democratic presidential candidate out of them. Mainstream Democrats have already been Berned once. Of course his Fanatics will pick up their ball and go home if they don't get their way instead of helping to unseat Trump.

I'm not saying Trump is going to win, but I'm going to brace myself and prepare as though he will, because the fucking jizz mop just might. God dammit  :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Bruno on March 07, 2019, 07:46:58 pm
If he looses, it seems likely that the nuttier members of his base will finally completely lose their minds. People are already talking about another civil war in America, and not just the youtube crazies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-america-talk-turns-to-something-unspoken-for-150-years-civil-war/2019/02/28/b3733af8-3ae4-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0ou8VRZ8Hd2JLREyc5q5y28OoVVTHWFrprdvBsi8mVpdbFXPgr1c_LSjw&utm_term=.f50d740ef863
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Hoopla! on March 07, 2019, 09:21:01 pm
Maybe itís time people started the chaos magic against Trump.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2019, 10:00:52 pm
Maybe itís time people started the chaos magic against Trump.

That would be like trying to put out a dumpster fire with a truckload of live chickens.

In the Darkness even the Truth is in doubt. What is needed is the kicking of some asses! That and a viable Democratic candidate folks will unite behind...

Actually fuck it. Bring on the chickens! Gritty has a modest cult following. Mister Rogers has an even bigger cult following. We need a light to Rally around. Something or preferably someone True and Good. Bernie is not true and good despite his best intentions all he really has is ambition and a platform that pays for colleges with 'taxpayer money'. We need the second coming, a fucking Christ figure. Chaos magic won't save us. Nothing will. But I'm in the mood to cause chaos and dance in the ashes... No, too angsty. I'm in the mood to watch a shit ton of flaming chickens run around The Neighborhood!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2019, 10:04:28 pm
If he looses, it seems likely that the nuttier members of his base will finally completely lose their minds. People are already talking about another civil war in America, and not just the youtube crazies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-america-talk-turns-to-something-unspoken-for-150-years-civil-war/2019/02/28/b3733af8-3ae4-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0ou8VRZ8Hd2JLREyc5q5y28OoVVTHWFrprdvBsi8mVpdbFXPgr1c_LSjw&utm_term=.f50d740ef863

If there is a civil war it won't be a formal one like the great civil war was. It will be geurillas by night and Psychopaths opening fire in broad daylight. I don't see the US military Schisming entirely because they lost a shity commander. I do see the culture wars becoming even more bloody than they currently are.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Hoopla! on March 07, 2019, 11:09:30 pm
Maybe itís time people started the chaos magic against Trump.

That would be like trying to put out a dumpster fire with a truckload of live chickens.

In the Darkness even the Truth is in doubt. What is needed is the kicking of some asses! That and a viable Democratic candidate folks will unite behind...

Actually fuck it. Bring on the chickens! Gritty has a modest cult following. Mister Rogers has an even bigger cult following. We need a light to Rally around. Something or preferably someone True and Good. Bernie is not true and good despite his best intentions all he really has is ambition and a platform that pays for colleges with 'taxpayer money'. We need the second coming, a fucking Christ figure. Chaos magic won't save us. Nothing will. But I'm in the mood to cause chaos and dance in the ashes... No, too angsty. I'm in the mood to watch a shit ton of flaming chickens run around The Neighborhood!

Letís dance.

:noodledance:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2019, 11:45:07 pm
Maybe itís time people started the chaos magic against Trump.

That would be like trying to put out a dumpster fire with a truckload of live chickens.

In the Darkness even the Truth is in doubt. What is needed is the kicking of some asses! That and a viable Democratic candidate folks will unite behind...

Actually fuck it. Bring on the chickens! Gritty has a modest cult following. Mister Rogers has an even bigger cult following. We need a light to Rally around. Something or preferably someone True and Good. Bernie is not true and good despite his best intentions all he really has is ambition and a platform that pays for colleges with 'taxpayer money'. We need the second coming, a fucking Christ figure. Chaos magic won't save us. Nothing will. But I'm in the mood to cause chaos and dance in the ashes... No, too angsty. I'm in the mood to watch a shit ton of flaming chickens run around The Neighborhood!

Letís dance.

:noodledance:

 :musak: :sexybeast: :elvis:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Johnny on March 08, 2019, 01:25:02 am

Idk, from an outsiders perspective, American discourse is so hyperbolic and non-sense because commentators are so needy for attention and ad-revenue, and the need to keep the audience at the edge of their seat thru ever escalating means.

Like, what I do have noticed is this "revenge-ism" attitude between Democrats and Republicans, in which actions dont seem to follow pragmatic objectives but more of "OH THIS WILL SHOW THEM" under a logic of pettiness.

If this exact trend continues escalating, i could imagine a real civil war no earlier than 2028 and i couldnt imagine it going on for too long with all the control and surveillance the government has over the population.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2019, 03:02:56 am

Idk, from an outsiders perspective, American discourse is so hyperbolic and non-sense because commentators are so needy for attention and ad-revenue, and the need to keep the audience at the edge of their seat thru ever escalating means.

Like, what I do have noticed is this "revenge-ism" attitude between Democrats and Republicans, in which actions dont seem to follow pragmatic objectives but more of "OH THIS WILL SHOW THEM" under a logic of pettiness.

If this exact trend continues escalating, i could imagine a real civil war no earlier than 2028 and i couldnt imagine it going on for too long with all the control and surveillance the government has over the population.

It's more that we're just plain bad people that have had it too good for too long.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 08, 2019, 06:42:50 am
You're an empire in it's death throes. This is all perfectly normal. Horses get appointed to senate and emperors golf while the nation burns.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Bruno on March 08, 2019, 07:24:43 am
If he looses, it seems likely that the nuttier members of his base will finally completely lose their minds. People are already talking about another civil war in America, and not just the youtube crazies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-america-talk-turns-to-something-unspoken-for-150-years-civil-war/2019/02/28/b3733af8-3ae4-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0ou8VRZ8Hd2JLREyc5q5y28OoVVTHWFrprdvBsi8mVpdbFXPgr1c_LSjw&utm_term=.f50d740ef863

If there is a civil war it won't be a formal one like the great civil war was. It will be geurillas by night and Psychopaths opening fire in broad daylight. I don't see the US military Schisming entirely because they lost a shity commander. I do see the culture wars becoming even more bloody than they currently are.

Pretty much, yeah. I'm trying to think what tactics they could, and/or are likely to use to further their cause. Most of them probably have a years supply of beans and a confidence in their ability to survive by hunting/gathering/agriculture, and would like to see their world shift to a situation where persons so prepared would be at an advantage. So... maybe attacks on the infrastructure, particularly the power grid, I'm thinking. Here in Tennessee, we're pretty dependent on hydroelectric power. An attack on the dams that put them out of commission for months or even years could cripple the entire state. Tennessee is a major distribution hub for most of the eastern half of the country. Wrecking it could cause major disruptions in the distribution chain.

Then when the bread trucks start showing up late, or not at all, shit could start to get pretty weird.

Maybe itís time people started the chaos magic against Trump.

That would be like trying to put out a dumpster fire with a truckload of live chickens.

In the Darkness even the Truth is in doubt. What is needed is the kicking of some asses! That and a viable Democratic candidate folks will unite behind...

Actually fuck it. Bring on the chickens! Gritty has a modest cult following. Mister Rogers has an even bigger cult following. We need a light to Rally around. Something or preferably someone True and Good. Bernie is not true and good despite his best intentions all he really has is ambition and a platform that pays for colleges with 'taxpayer money'. We need the second coming, a fucking Christ figure. Chaos magic won't save us. Nothing will. But I'm in the mood to cause chaos and dance in the ashes... No, too angsty. I'm in the mood to watch a shit ton of flaming chickens run around The Neighborhood!

A common theme I see reading comments from The Traitriots/Vanilla ISIS is "We need a leader". Which is, as far as I cant tell, what they think is the only thing holding them back from Taking America Back By Storm. Meanwhile THEM DANG OL AN-TEEF-UHS seem to be getting along just fine without leaders, or at least centralized leadership hierarchy, or whatever. These allegedly motivated motherfuckers probably have Antifa outnumbered 1000:1 but at the end of the day, Antifa gets more done because they aren't just sitting around waiting for someone to boss them around.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2019, 03:00:12 pm
You're an empire in it's death throes. This is all perfectly normal. Horses get appointed to senate and emperors golf while the nation burns.

Only that's not happening. 

What's happening is just that nothing is getting fixed.  Each storm or wild fire leaves a Katrina-style hole in the infrastructure that just sits there and festers.  I could only WISH for Visigoths torching shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Johnny on March 08, 2019, 03:03:09 pm

Idk, from an outsiders perspective, American discourse is so hyperbolic and non-sense because commentators are so needy for attention and ad-revenue, and the need to keep the audience at the edge of their seat thru ever escalating means.

Like, what I do have noticed is this "revenge-ism" attitude between Democrats and Republicans, in which actions dont seem to follow pragmatic objectives but more of "OH THIS WILL SHOW THEM" under a logic of pettiness.

If this exact trend continues escalating, i could imagine a real civil war no earlier than 2028 and i couldnt imagine it going on for too long with all the control and surveillance the government has over the population.

It's more that we're just plain bad people that have had it too good for too long.

Are you saying something along the lines that Americans are like spoiled brats that suddenly get to experiment deprivation and take it out between themselves?

Like, from years ago ive admired in certain awe what at some times seems like taking a stand on important issues while at other times it seems like the most primitive rooting for a sports team sort of partisanship... with the new president that got elected down here were starting to see this social divide between those that hate it and those that embrace it, and i wonder how it will look like in 20-30 years.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2019, 03:05:41 pm

Idk, from an outsiders perspective, American discourse is so hyperbolic and non-sense because commentators are so needy for attention and ad-revenue, and the need to keep the audience at the edge of their seat thru ever escalating means.

Like, what I do have noticed is this "revenge-ism" attitude between Democrats and Republicans, in which actions dont seem to follow pragmatic objectives but more of "OH THIS WILL SHOW THEM" under a logic of pettiness.

If this exact trend continues escalating, i could imagine a real civil war no earlier than 2028 and i couldnt imagine it going on for too long with all the control and surveillance the government has over the population.

It's more that we're just plain bad people that have had it too good for too long.

Are you saying something along the lines that Americans are like spoiled brats that suddenly get to experiment deprivation and take it out between themselves?

Like, from years ago ive admired in certain awe what at some times seems like taking a stand on important issues while at other times it seems like the most primitive rooting for a sports team sort of partisanship... with the new president that got elected down here were starting to see this social divide between those that hate it and those that embrace it, and i wonder how it will look like in 20-30 years.

It has nothing to do with the parties.  The parties are the excuse.

There are 3 factions in America, just like there have always been.  Corporate, Nationalist, and Family.  None of this shit is new.  This shit has been going on for 220 years.  This isn't even the worst instance of it.  Shit, not even close.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on March 08, 2019, 05:51:21 pm
Horses get appointed to senate .

Hey now, Ivanka was only made a special advisor.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2019, 05:53:19 pm
Horses get appointed to senate .

Hey now, Ivanka was only made a special advisor.

:lol:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Al Qədic on March 09, 2019, 05:42:10 am
Welp, Chelsea Manning is back in prison, this time for refusing to testify before a grand jury about wikileaks it seems. Fuck me, this could be real bad. :sad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/us/politics/chelsea-manning-wikileaks-jail.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 09, 2019, 04:15:22 pm
Welp, Chelsea Manning is back in prison, this time for refusing to testify before a grand jury about wikileaks it seems. Fuck me, this could be real bad. :sad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/us/politics/chelsea-manning-wikileaks-jail.html

She had immunity, which means they can in fact compel her to testify against anyone at all, including herself.

She's still a big enough sucker to go to jail for Assange.  Some folks never learn.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 09, 2019, 04:37:43 pm
I'm worried about her. You don't go through something like that without it fucking you up, and going back to the same situation that fucked you up is an unfortunately common pattern in victims of trauma.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Al Qədic on March 09, 2019, 06:23:42 pm
She had immunity, which means they can in fact compel her to testify against anyone at all, including herself.

She's still a big enough sucker to go to jail for Assange.  Some folks never learn.

I want to agree, on the merit of "as shitty as grand juries can be, they still have power, and like it or not, they'll use that power against you if you don't fall in line." But I also see her refusal as an admonishment against the system that loves screwing people like her over. It makes her life more difficult, yes, but this, like many actions, can serve as a form of protest. The fact that this has to do with wikileaks/Assange obviously plays into her reservations for testifying, but I think her disdain for the garbage legal system is the larger force here.

That aside, while it does suck in hindsight that wikileaks of all things had to be the horse that her mortifying news rode in on...I dunno, man, I'd prefer a wild, shitty horse over no horse at all, if I wanted to deliver news that no one else was seeing.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Al Qədic on March 09, 2019, 06:28:23 pm
I'm worried about her. You don't go through something like that without it fucking you up, and going back to the same situation that fucked you up is an unfortunately common pattern in victims of trauma.
Absolutely. Between her time in jail, suicide attempts during that time, suicide attempt(s) (at least one if I remember right) after getting out, the time cops broke into her apartment/house, and the general shitfits that assholes like to give to liberals/whistleblowers/trans women on a daily basis, I really hope she turns out all right from this. I suppose the miniscule silver lining here is that she's in the women's area of the prison, but goddamn has she been through a lot.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 09, 2019, 09:48:37 pm
She had immunity, which means they can in fact compel her to testify against anyone at all, including herself.

She's still a big enough sucker to go to jail for Assange.  Some folks never learn.

I want to agree, on the merit of "as shitty as grand juries can be, they still have power, and like it or not, they'll use that power against you if you don't fall in line." But I also see her refusal as an admonishment against the system that loves screwing people like her over. It makes her life more difficult, yes, but this, like many actions, can serve as a form of protest. The fact that this has to do with wikileaks/Assange obviously plays into her reservations for testifying, but I think her disdain for the garbage legal system is the larger force here.

That aside, while it does suck in hindsight that wikileaks of all things had to be the horse that her mortifying news rode in on...I dunno, man, I'd prefer a wild, shitty horse over no horse at all, if I wanted to deliver news that no one else was seeing.

Well, she's about to discover whose disdain counts.

And wikileaks is a state actor.  Assange is not a truth-telling rebel, he's a tool of the Russian government.  And Manning is a fool.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on March 10, 2019, 05:17:41 pm
Back on the thread topic, who do you think will get the Democratic nom?  It really looks like Sanders to me,  I'd prefer Warren, personally, but Sanders seems a lot stronger.  I know a lot of folks are sure it will be Biden or Harris, but neither seems to be polling all that well.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on March 10, 2019, 06:19:51 pm
Warren or Harris, IMO. It's still early days, and people are expecting a Biden entry which may or may not happen.  They're....biding their time, you might say.

But seriously. Warren would undoubtedly make a better President, but she will have weaknesses as a candidate (see her DNA test nonsense, for example).  I think the converse is true of Harris, and if Biden doesn't enter, the centrist Dems will rally around her.  It's a matter of style, as much as anything...they're both lawyers, but Warren was academic, while Harris was a public prosecutor.  The latter know how to go for the throat, play the crowd, make compelling arguments and tear their opponent down in a way most of the former simply don't, as a matter of practical experience.  Once the debates start, she will be in her element.

As for Sanders....I think there is a lot of bad blood there, and there are former Sanders supporters among those who think he shouldn't have run again. Warren gives them a similar candidate without the same baggage, which relegates Sanders to Ron Paul status - he'll be popular online and in the online polls, but he'll struggle elsewhere.

Also look out for Andrew Yang siphoning off some of the more weird Sanders support base.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 10, 2019, 10:04:24 pm
Back on the thread topic, who do you think will get the Democratic nom?  It really looks like Sanders to me,  I'd prefer Warren, personally, but Sanders seems a lot stronger.  I know a lot of folks are sure it will be Biden or Harris, but neither seems to be polling all that well.

Jesus, I fucking hope not.  I'm already tired of his fake ass.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 03, 2019, 05:24:04 pm
 An Open Letter to Pete Buttigieg

Dear Mayor of South Bend,

Hello, Pete? Is this Pete? Hah, I was just sitting back thinking of you and touching something. Not gonna tell ya *what* I'm touching, and I'm not gonna tell ya what I'm touchin' it *with*, but know that you are always in my thoughts.

Anyway, I was thinking back to 2016, back when Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump. You remember that? Of course you do. It set this country back 50 years, and that's not just for those "coastal elites" you seem fond of bitching about. And a few things happened.

First, all the LGBT people that foolishly felt comfortable coming out during the last administration sure got theirs, didn't they? Transgender folk getting booted out of the military. Dominionist Christians crawling out from under every wet rock, a few quiet murders, and also Nazis walking around in broad daylight. But at least you don't have to feel *ignored* anymore, right?

Second, the apparatus of government has been damaged, probably beyond repair. Now? Ho ho! There are no brakes on this train, and the Lumpy Orange Thing in the white house is deliberately speeding up for the curves. And while I would normally be all about that kinda "taking it to the wall" mentality, it occurs to me that this is where I keep all of my STUFF.

The rule of law has been suborned. Consequences are for the little people. The bloated sack that currently stains the oval office does whatever he pleases, and there you sit, saying "At least he wasn't saying American was already great, like Hillary did."

Yes, Pete, you said that with your bare face hanging out. You literally said that this insane mess is better than what we had before.

Now why would you say a thing like that?

Because you weren't crazy about the idea of a *woman* running for president? Or that maybe the eight years previous to the election bothered you for some reason. You're not *racist*, BUT you just didn't feel *comfortable*? Or maybe you just can't argue with a good chicken sandwich? Imagine, selling your own minority group out for second-rate fast food.

In any case, Pete, you have clearly stated where you stand...And I just don't have time for that. Or for you.

And I'm not even a "coastal elite."

Venomously yours,
Hamish Howl
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 10:04:32 pm
When I read the news articles about him he mentally went in the same bucket I put all the self-hating lgbt folks in: the one we take to the curb to be buried in a lonesome place miles from home

Heís put his name behind the shit, and heís going to get his the second the jackboots come for the rest of us, and he wonít get the satisfaction of knowing he was right, or that heís suffering among friends

Heís going to be despised and kicked while heís down and no one will protect him, because when he had the opportunity to fucking PRETEND to put a sliver of protection for us out there, he bowed to the big man instead

And in the world where the jackboots are removed and burned before they can turn our way, we will remember when he sold us up the river for headpats and poor baby and fried chicken and he will be a pariah as he deserves anyway

He can go over in the shame corner with whatsherfuck the rich white conservative transwoman celebrity, Milo fuckstick, bi/lesbian terfs and all the other fucking traitors and they can all choke on my living shit together
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Al Qədic on April 03, 2019, 11:04:14 pm
He can go over in the shame corner with whatsherfuck the rich white conservative transwoman celebrity, Milo fuckstick, bi/lesbian terfs and all the other fucking traitors and they can all choke on my living shit together
Don't forget about the truscum; I swear, the assholes of any group love to whine about other people Doing It Wrongô. Also, regarding Ms. Whatsherfuck, I really hope she gets supplanted by some actually nice, thoughtful person as "that one trans woman America tolerates and actually kinda likes." Her coming out and publicity felt nice at first, then she took a nosedive real fast. Just...we really need a better person to represent us in the eyes of all the troglodytes watching in confusion and abject horror, you know?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 11:13:08 pm
He can go over in the shame corner with whatsherfuck the rich white conservative transwoman celebrity, Milo fuckstick, bi/lesbian terfs and all the other fucking traitors and they can all choke on my living shit together
Don't forget about the truscum; I swear, the assholes of any group love to whine about other people Doing It Wrong[emoji769]. Also, regarding Ms. Whatsherfuck, I really hope she gets supplanted by some actually nice, thoughtful person as "that one trans woman America tolerates and actually kinda likes." Her coming out and publicity felt nice at first, then she took a nosedive real fast. Just...we really need a better person to represent us in the eyes of all the troglodytes watching in confusion and abject horror, you know?

Yes

To the whole thing, you are correct
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 11:30:15 pm
In fact thereís a special hell for transmedicalists

I believe that total phenotype control to the limits of feasibility should be a human right. If other people donít have the right to stick a knife in you, they shouldnít have the right to keep you from sticking tattoos in yourself, replacing your left arm with a tentacle, or implanting fur in your skin and getting skeletal reconstructive surgery to become your fursona

Why the fuck should anyone have the right to say what you do to yourself is illegal, itís you and not them and if I want to implant skunk scent glands in my forearms why the fuck should anyone get to stop me, if I want to replace my lower jaw with a completely artificial cybernetic food processing implement then people will just need to get used to the horrible whirring sound when I am talking and the way I destroy silverware, fuck them

If youíre a transmedicalist you believe that bodily autonomy stops at an arbitrary line, so fuck you
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 11:32:12 pm
Thatís the general you, not you specifically, of course (just by reminding me of it you are excluded from that ďyouĒ, even )


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Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 04, 2019, 08:24:18 pm
ok but maybe don't do the skunk thing
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2019, 02:10:05 am
ok but maybe don't do the skunk thing

QG is obviously delirious and you should do the skunk thing.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 02:18:26 am
This is how I know you can be trusted.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Al Qədic on April 05, 2019, 02:40:01 am
This is how I know you can be trusted.
With a face like that, how can there not be trust? :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 02:53:52 am
This is how I know you can be trusted.
With a face like that, how can there not be trust? :lulz:

Roger had a face kinda like that, and we had to kill him to save his immortal soul, then bury him ten feet under the bedrock of Tucson with a stake through his gonads (the guy who did that died horribly later of probably unrelated exotic infections) to stop him from just showing up at all the fucking parties anyway.* And you canít even trust that heíll stay there still, we keep tripping over decomposing fingers.

Trust and facial features are unrelated.



* Thereís urban legends that his crusty, inflamed ghost manifests at these parties by way of unnatural STIs, his payback for the Perma-Snub. These are just legends, and Iím not just saying this because I havenít been chosen as the infectee yet.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2019, 03:46:35 am
This is how I know you can be trusted.
With a face like that, how can there not be trust? :lulz:

Roger had a face kinda like that, and we had to kill him to save his immortal soul, then bury him ten feet under the bedrock of Tucson with a stake through his gonads (the guy who did that died horribly later of probably unrelated exotic infections) to stop him from just showing up at all the fucking parties anyway.* And you canít even trust that heíll stay there still, we keep tripping over decomposing fingers.

Trust and facial features are unrelated.



* Thereís urban legends that his crusty, inflamed ghost manifests at these parties by way of unnatural STIs, his payback for the Perma-Snub. These are just legends, and Iím not just saying this because I havenít been chosen as the infectee yet.

That gobshite still owes me $10.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 06:33:42 pm
And Tulsi Gabbard's campaign is potato, alongside Gillibrand's. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on August 28, 2019, 07:24:28 pm
I will shed no tears over either of them, but especially Tulsi ďI am literally just Trump in a neoliberal-friendly packageĒ Gabbard is a loss to toast about. Break out the booze and all that.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 07:28:25 pm
I will shed no tears over either of them, but especially Tulsi ďI am literally just Trump in a neoliberal-friendly packageĒ Gabbard is a loss to toast about. Break out the booze and all that.

Yep. Steyer might make it, Gillibrand MAYBE, but the rest of the small fry are toast.

Except for Yang, as the proudboys are all donating $5 to him, so he is making the individual donor threshold.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on August 28, 2019, 07:34:44 pm
Between Biden alternately covering himself in poo and playing aw-shucks games to hang onto his lead by the skin of his dentures, and Warren turning out to be THE ONLY PERSON who comes with actually realistic plans and shit and gaining some serious popularity on that, I think Yang is going to be dirt in the end. Iím just hoping he doesnít manage to split the vote and take us all into King Trumpís Fucking Dark Ages.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 07:39:34 pm
Between Biden alternately covering himself in poo and playing aw-shucks games to hang onto his lead by the skin of his dentures, and Warren turning out to be THE ONLY PERSON who comes with actually realistic plans and shit and gaining some serious popularity on that, I think Yang is going to be dirt in the end. Iím just hoping he doesnít manage to split the vote and take us all into King Trumpís Fucking Dark Ages.

I am becoming convinced that Harris is "suicide bunting" for Warren.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Norman on August 31, 2019, 03:59:06 pm
If it's Warren, the GOP are going to turn her into Hillary and it will be an extremely close general and I think Trump could eke that out.
If it's Biden, it will be harder for the GOP slur machine.  He's an old kooky white guy just like Trump. 

Let's face it guys, we have a racist, sexist electorate, the GOP knows it, and have no shame to use it if it gets them the win. 

Biden is old, he messes shit up, but he'll be surrounded by handlers like Trump is now. Except, a President Biden's staff, I think it's fair to say, will be far less batshit racist than Trump's.

This is such a no-brainer.  If the goal is for Trump to not be re-elected, Biden is the closest thing to a sure deal as the D's can put up.  Everyone else opens up pathways for Trump to get another 4 years.

C'mon D's, don't fuck it up this time!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on September 01, 2019, 09:20:03 am
I know you banned him, but imagine thinking "Biden is better because he's a senile old man like Trump" is a good quality in a leader.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on September 01, 2019, 04:50:31 pm
I am worried Norman is right about what would happen with Warren.  She's my favorite of the Democratic field but I can see her reading as Clintonesque to low info voters.  Kamela Harris is more sure to beat Trump, but her political history is awful and I feel like she'd lead to president Nugent in 8 years.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2019, 06:28:23 pm
I thought Warren would hit that buzzsaw when she announced, too.  But there are a few differences:

1. Not a Clinton.
2. Isn't acting like it should be given to her.
3. Doesn't have as much of a troublesome past ("superpredators", etc)
4. Runs left of moderate.
5. Not only has a policy for everything, has shown she can explain it without being wonky.
6. Trump won with a minority of votes, has lost some of his base, and Warren can pick up people who were too put off to vote last time.

I think she has a shot.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on September 03, 2019, 06:36:04 pm
Warrenís big fuckups are things either sheís been public about and done her best to repair the damage from or that probably most of the country has done (the Native American BS and having once been a Republican, respectively).

If anything, her distant Republican past probably gives her a better chance (people want a narrative for their actions, and she provides a narrative for ďformer RepublicanĒ without the pesky business of people coming up with their own, and people are more open to following the suggestions of those they mirror this way).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on September 03, 2019, 06:36:04 pm
She's also growing in popularity with the Dem base on a month by month basis.

And lets just recall who were the "sure shots" at this point in previous elections. 91? Bush. 2007? Clinton. 2016? Clinton or Cruz.

Establishment "safe bet" candidates don't exactly have a sterling track record.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Junkenstein on September 03, 2019, 06:51:41 pm
Looking at any potential dem candidate, I can't see one that will do what is needed in debates etc. And out idiot-idiot. It's been years of this shit and not one is willing to get dirty enough to win.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on September 03, 2019, 07:00:02 pm
Thing is, while I want Trump out I donít think you need to outdo him at his own game to beat him. Also, Iíd be horrified if that won. I would say if thatís the only way to win, the US was a failure. Time to start over, this one isnít salvageable.

While normally thatís a jokey overreaction, I genuinely believe that if we need superTrump to beat ordinary Trump, the country can be safely written off as a loss. That way lies nothing but increasing awfulness.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2019, 07:20:14 pm
I am worried Norman is right about what would happen with Warren.  She's my favorite of the Democratic field but I can see her reading as Clintonesque to low info voters.  Kamela Harris is more sure to beat Trump, but her political history is awful and I feel like she'd lead to president Nugent in 8 years.

The only thing Warren has in common with Clinton is that she's a female democrat.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on September 03, 2019, 07:24:44 pm
TBH, voters are kinda dumb and sexist, so I can see them making that "connection."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Junkenstien on September 03, 2019, 07:28:23 pm
Thing is, while I want Trump out I donít think you need to outdo him at his own game to beat him. Also, Iíd be horrified if that won. I would say if thatís the only way to win, the US was a failure. Time to start over, this one isnít salvageable.

While normally thatís a jokey overreaction, I genuinely believe that if we need superTrump to beat ordinary Trump, the country can be safely written off as a loss. That way lies nothing but increasing awfulness.

I don't think you're really serious about having the appropriate level of fun in the Horrible Times.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Bruno on September 03, 2019, 07:34:31 pm
My god, where is Terry Crews when we need him?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Frontside Back on September 03, 2019, 07:48:30 pm
I dunno, but I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbbEk4YJi7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbbEk4YJi7I)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 03, 2019, 10:00:14 pm
I was polled yesterday. My answers were "Warren, Castro, and everyone else can go fuck themselves."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: LMNO on September 04, 2019, 04:07:07 pm
If you have the time, I'd like to know what you see in Castro that appeals to you.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2019, 05:15:34 pm
If you have the time, I'd like to know what you see in Castro that appeals to you.

I will say one thing for him:  He is smart enough to know that it is too late to stop climate change, and that an early priority is finding ways to buffer the effect on our population (drought resistant crops, water infrastructure, etc).

https://issues.juliancastro.com/
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2019, 05:16:33 pm
Also, he's not afraid to say the violence epidemic is mostly on white supremacists, and that they need to be handled.

I'm still on the Warren train, but Castro isn't half bad.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Junkenstein on September 04, 2019, 05:52:08 pm
If you have the time, I'd like to know what you see in Castro that appeals to you.

I read that to mean "they can all go fuck themselves, including Warren/Castro".

I may be wrong but that's my stance.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on September 04, 2019, 07:01:37 pm
I am worried Norman is right about what would happen with Warren.  She's my favorite of the Democratic field but I can see her reading as Clintonesque to low info voters.  Kamela Harris is more sure to beat Trump, but her political history is awful and I feel like she'd lead to president Nugent in 8 years.

The only thing Warren has in common with Clinton is that she's a female democrat.

An old white female democrat.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2019, 12:03:41 am
I am worried Norman is right about what would happen with Warren.  She's my favorite of the Democratic field but I can see her reading as Clintonesque to low info voters.  Kamela Harris is more sure to beat Trump, but her political history is awful and I feel like she'd lead to president Nugent in 8 years.

The only thing Warren has in common with Clinton is that she's a female democrat.

An old white female democrat.

I see.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 05, 2019, 02:58:34 am
If you have the time, I'd like to know what you see in Castro that appeals to you.

A friend whose opinion I value greatly is 100% on board with him. He's got an immigration policy so solid Liz Warren said she'll just use his, and in general I find him to be someone who is believable in the role, which is 90% of actually being electable. I was happy to see him pushing back on some of the nonsense in the first debate, and I value both his attempt to bring trans people into the conversation at that debate and his self correction after the fact (said "trans women" when he meant "trans men"). Being able to own missteps like that is a big deal for me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: LMNO on September 05, 2019, 03:33:43 pm
I appreciate that.  I hadn't given him much thought, tbh.  I'll look a bit closer.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2019, 06:44:58 pm
https://www.apnews.com/bd653f4eb5ed4f34b6c936221c35a3e5

Have fun with this.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Magpie on September 05, 2019, 07:12:36 pm
https://www.apnews.com/bd653f4eb5ed4f34b6c936221c35a3e5

Have fun with this.

You can't say both sides are the same when only Trump's fans are writing manifestos.

There was a study published a few weeks ago about  people forming false memories after reading news they agreed with.
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/fake-news-can-lead-to-false-memories.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 11, 2019, 07:15:52 pm
This is why I hate.

https://apnews.com/e7f10269e60b46dabe31c455fa04017e
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 13, 2019, 04:31:37 pm
From the dem debate fact checker thingie:

Quote
Virtually free comprehensive medical care would lead to big increases in the demand for services.

Which is another way of saying "I don't want to wait in line with poor people who at this point cannot afford any care at all."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on September 13, 2019, 04:35:57 pm
Yeah.

I mean, when people heard I have no insurance and I fucked my knee up, they just sorta did that whole ďI want to help you but I donít want poverty germsĒ look of strained sympathy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Junkenstein on September 14, 2019, 03:22:58 am
From the dem debate fact checker thingie:

Quote
Virtually free comprehensive medical care would lead to big increases in the demand for services.

Which is another way of saying "I don't want to wait in line with poor people who at this point cannot afford any care at all."

It also says a lot about the nation in general.

Nothing good, however.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Frontside Back on September 16, 2019, 12:42:59 am
Biden acts as a vaguely Trump shaped punching bag for democrat candidates to train on before the real deal. He'll probably win.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on September 16, 2019, 06:06:30 am
I'm hoping for Warren to pull ahead, tbh.

EDIT: Soon would be a good time for Bernie to pull out, that segment of the vote is getting a little split and Warren would likely bury Biden if he did so... but that's just my opinion.

EDIT AGAIN: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-third-democratic-debate-in-7-charts/ according to this Bernie supporters aren't considering supporting another candidate, so who knows? I'm possibly full of shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 16, 2019, 03:12:54 pm
I'm hoping for Warren to pull ahead, tbh.

EDIT: Soon would be a good time for Bernie to pull out, that segment of the vote is getting a little split and Warren would likely bury Biden if he did so... but that's just my opinion.

EDIT AGAIN: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-third-democratic-debate-in-7-charts/ according to this Bernie supporters aren't considering supporting another candidate, so who knows? I'm possibly full of shit.

Bernie will never in this lifetime drop out.  He will go to the bitter end, not in spite of the damage he will do, but because of the damage he will do.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on September 16, 2019, 03:44:35 pm
It's possible fate intervened. If he lost his voice in Colorado (snerk, sample some of the local goodies?) it would be nigh impossible for him to continue. Voicebox injuries are kind of a thing and sometimes require surgery. I like Bernie but he already made his point imo.

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/bernie-sanders-to-take-a-break-from-campaigning-to-rest/article_d6ffd15a-d753-11e9-8fb1-ab3b51c970d2.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 16, 2019, 03:50:25 pm
It's possible fate intervened. If he lost his voice in Colorado (snerk, sample some of the local goodies?) it would be nigh impossible for him to continue. Voicebox injuries are kind of a thing and sometimes require surgery. I like Bernie but he already made his point imo.

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/bernie-sanders-to-take-a-break-from-campaigning-to-rest/article_d6ffd15a-d753-11e9-8fb1-ab3b51c970d2.html

I distrust this.  It seems to be evidence of a benevolent deity, and we know that ain't happening.

Dok,
Waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on September 23, 2019, 08:30:01 pm
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-latest-iowa-poll-is-good-news-for-elizabeth-warren-and-tulsi-gabbard/

Well this is just fine by me, needs to be better in ALL states though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 09:23:13 pm
https://apnews.com/346d1f931c6146c097f6516ee00dfbb2

The Catholic church is being just as classy as they were in the 1930s.   :lol:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on October 29, 2019, 10:05:01 pm
Oh wow, no wonder there were schisms. Someone is playing a trumpet outside.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Junkenstein on October 29, 2019, 10:24:07 pm
It's possible fate intervened. If he lost his voice in Colorado (snerk, sample some of the local goodies?) it would be nigh impossible for him to continue. Voicebox injuries are kind of a thing and sometimes require surgery. I like Bernie but he already made his point imo.

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/bernie-sanders-to-take-a-break-from-campaigning-to-rest/article_d6ffd15a-d753-11e9-8fb1-ab3b51c970d2.html

I distrust this.  It seems to be evidence of a benevolent deity, and we know that ain't happening.

Dok,
Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

He dies a few weeks before the election resulting in the remaining time being used by democrats to wail and gnash teeth, dress in sackcloth etc. While republicans make up any lost ground. Idiot also gets to spend time attacking the dead guy which turns out to be a vote winner.

I am dreaming of the future and see no reason to be hopeful or suffer alone.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Magpie on October 29, 2019, 11:32:21 pm
https://apnews.com/346d1f931c6146c097f6516ee00dfbb2

The Catholic church is being just as classy as they were in the 1930s.   :lol:

In the 30s they probably would have excommunicated him for assisting in abortions by his political support of abortion rights.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 11:37:32 pm
https://apnews.com/346d1f931c6146c097f6516ee00dfbb2

The Catholic church is being just as classy as they were in the 1930s.   :lol:

In the 30s they probably would have excommunicated him for assisting in abortions by his political support of abortion rights.

They were too busy giving the Nazis the nod.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 06:18:18 pm
Gabbard says no 3rd party run.

https://apnews.com/dde98c1a1b844dd68dc142975f4767c9
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 08:18:46 pm
Steyer gets caught being a dumbass.  No laws actually broken, but this was really dumb.

https://apnews.com/4f024bbad09c4e0f97005376f0614377
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 10:13:32 pm
There is no end to this that won't be hilarious.

https://apnews.com/ef38fdca5e124147be9c02bde40d0b4a

Sessions is trying to get his old seat back off of DINO Jones.

Can you even imagine the look on Trump's face?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on November 07, 2019, 10:17:38 pm
I am betting Trump helps Jonesí campaign as much as they let him because Trumpís a fucking petty child and thatís the sort of kindergarten playground shit he plays at.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 10:47:36 pm
I am betting Trump helps Jonesí campaign as much as they let him because Trumpís a fucking petty child and thatís the sort of kindergarten playground shit he plays at.

Also, Jones has his face more or less affixed to Trump's rectum.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on November 07, 2019, 11:39:29 pm
I am betting Trump helps Jonesí campaign as much as they let him because Trumpís a fucking petty child and thatís the sort of kindergarten playground shit he plays at.

Also, Jones has his face more or less affixed to Trump's rectum.

What!

I didnít know that. Please do tell.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 11:42:35 pm
I am betting Trump helps Jonesí campaign as much as they let him because Trumpís a fucking petty child and thatís the sort of kindergarten playground shit he plays at.

Also, Jones has his face more or less affixed to Trump's rectum.

What!

I didnít know that. Please do tell.

Yeah, he's about as democrat as Joe Manchin.  Jones was just bitching last week or so about how this impeachment business is so very unfair to Trump.

And his voting record is "Mitch McConnell."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2019, 02:45:47 pm
Pressley breaks with the squad, endorsing Warren.

https://apnews.com/53592c7f6a374282947abf53ef2eaf36
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: LMNO on November 08, 2019, 06:52:04 pm
Both from MA.  Boston Strong, etc.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2019, 10:09:21 pm
Today's word is "spoiler"

https://apnews.com/653386c5e7e040d09836d0e013558815
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on November 08, 2019, 11:29:07 pm
OMFG what kind of Russian bullshit is this?! NO, just NO.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on November 09, 2019, 12:08:28 am
Bloomberg will likely split Biden's vote though, won't he?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2019, 12:43:02 am
Bloomberg will likely snag it all, it's just a bit late to get started. When it would become a problem is if he ran as a third party. But who is he going to compete with in the democrat primaries?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on November 09, 2019, 12:46:01 am
 :?

Quote from: the NY Times yesterday
Presented with Mr. Bloomberg as a hypothetical entrant into the primary, 6 percent of Democratic primary voters said they would definitely support him, while 32 percent said they would never vote for him.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2019, 01:03:46 am
I guess I don't have anything to worry about. I want Warren to win but there's a lot of bullshit out there. That's part of why I freaked out when the possibility of Hillary running came up. I really wish Sanders would just drop out and endorse Warren.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 09, 2019, 04:54:59 am
Bloomberg will likely split Biden's vote though, won't he?

Yep.  But just a sliver.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on November 10, 2019, 06:23:54 pm
I guess I don't have anything to worry about. I want Warren to win but there's a lot of bullshit out there. That's part of why I freaked out when the possibility of Hillary running came up. I really wish Sanders would just drop out and endorse Warren.

I'm also a Warren supporter, Sanders is my second favorite.  I keep seeing supporters for one or the other advocating for the other to drop out.  Really wouldn't it be better if Biden dropped out?  His health is clearly not good and he'd be a disaster against Trump, the moderates mostly support him and if we could see whether more of them support Sanders or Warren we'd get a better idea of what the general election would look like. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2019, 08:07:21 pm
Having Biden drop out would be fantastic for Warren. Between her and Sanders, she is far more likely to win moderates in the party over, especially when you consider that she herself was a Republican once, and is actually a member of the party.

Yeah, the billionaires are crying about Warren now, but they'll come around. And if they don't, fuck em.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 18, 2019, 08:56:55 pm
Oh, look, Mitch "Fuck You" McConnell wants us to be more civil while he fucks us.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/c6e8fb4b760b453fb979243389d6f7c3
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Johnny on November 19, 2019, 04:09:22 am

Quote
ďWe have a behavioral problem,Ē McConnell said in a speech after receiving an award from the Kentucky Electric Cooperatives at the groupís annual meeting. ďPeople are acting out and itís not, I donít think, limited to one ideological place or another. Youíve just got a lot of people engaging in bad behavior.Ē
...
ďYou read stories of young people, incentivized I think by the faculty actually on college campuses, who donít want to hear anything they may disagree with,Ē he said. ďIt might upset them to be exposed to a point of view that they donít always subscribe to ó being brilliant, of course, and knowing everything at 18. I think thatís troublesome.Ē

Ok so, the liberals are unironically being called "degenerates", and now continuing with all the pseudo-psychological babble, "people are acting out"  :lulz:

Bonus points for infantilizing the opposition as well.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 02:15:42 pm

Quote
ďWe have a behavioral problem,Ē McConnell said in a speech after receiving an award from the Kentucky Electric Cooperatives at the groupís annual meeting. ďPeople are acting out and itís not, I donít think, limited to one ideological place or another. Youíve just got a lot of people engaging in bad behavior.Ē
...
ďYou read stories of young people, incentivized I think by the faculty actually on college campuses, who donít want to hear anything they may disagree with,Ē he said. ďIt might upset them to be exposed to a point of view that they donít always subscribe to ó being brilliant, of course, and knowing everything at 18. I think thatís troublesome.Ē

Ok so, the liberals are unironically being called "degenerates", and now continuing with all the pseudo-psychological babble, "people are acting out"  :lulz:

Bonus points for infantilizing the opposition as well.

Well, you knew this wasn't a call for more civility.  It's a call for coming down on younger protesters with hobnail boots.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 06:39:54 pm
Well, this is nice to see.  Amazing how it has to be a campaign promise instead of "of course we'll do that."

https://apnews.com/9be9d02ff2c04beb959f766d4a7480d4
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 10:03:48 pm
From the How Did You Think This Was A Good Idea Department:

https://apnews.com/c71e5d1018eb45b9ba6ed598c70a019b

Also, unrelated, Nebraska is opening its drivers license database to the feds, which even Kansas wouldn't do.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on November 22, 2019, 10:46:50 am
Well, this is nice to see.  Amazing how it has to be a campaign promise instead of "of course we'll do that."

https://apnews.com/9be9d02ff2c04beb959f766d4a7480d4

I'm already imagining how Ted Nugent (or whatever other fascist the GOP nominates in 2028) will use what she creates against black folks, queers, and labor unions.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 06:51:22 pm
Harris just dropped out.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: MMIX on December 03, 2019, 07:46:23 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 08:15:02 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia

It has been obvious for months that she was running interference for Warren, really.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: MMIX on December 03, 2019, 10:48:22 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia

It has been obvious for months that she was running interference for Warren, really.


Any chance of a VP slot, d'you think?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 10:51:02 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia

It has been obvious for months that she was running interference for Warren, really.


Any chance of a VP slot, d'you think?

If I were a betting man, rather than a holy manô, I'd say 5:3 against.  Warren will pick a man as VP, because this is America and it's 1972.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: MMIX on December 03, 2019, 11:17:30 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia

It has been obvious for months that she was running interference for Warren, really.


Any chance of a VP slot, d'you think?

If I were a betting man, rather than a holy manô, I'd say 5:3 against.  Warren will pick a man as VP, because this is America and it's 1972.

Yeah, of course it is, I knew I was missing something :( Shame though, thats a power pair that could really shake the foundations
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 11:36:24 pm
Harris just dropped out.

Bye, Felicia

It has been obvious for months that she was running interference for Warren, really.


Any chance of a VP slot, d'you think?

If I were a betting man, rather than a holy manô, I'd say 5:3 against.  Warren will pick a man as VP, because this is America and it's 1972.

Yeah, of course it is, I knew I was missing something :( Shame though, thats a power pair that could really shake the foundations

Well, yeah, but that would ALSO put two senate seats up for grabs, instead of one.

And right now, all the long term damage is being done by the GOP senate.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 04, 2019, 01:27:05 am
Warren picks Castro, Bernie picks Harris
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on December 04, 2019, 01:39:21 am
Warren picks Castro, Bernie picks Harris

 :lulz: :lulz: This is only funny because itís our future
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 02:55:38 pm
Joni Ernst shits the bed.

Quote
WASHINGTON (AP) ó An outside group founded by top political aides to Sen. Joni Ernst has worked closely with the Iowa Republican to raise money and boost her reelection prospects, a degree of overlap that potentially violates the law, documents obtained by The Associated Press show.

Iowa Values, a political nonprofit that is supposed to be run independently, was co-founded in 2017 by Ernstís longtime consultant, Jon Kohan. It shares a fundraiser, Claire Holloway Avella, with the Ernst campaign. And a condo owned by a former aide ó who was recently hired to lead the group ó was used as Iowa Valuesí address at a time when he worked for her.

https://apnews.com/eeb44fc06b0cb202bc1edbd1adee7f7d
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 03:36:46 pm
Julian Castro just dropped out of the race.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2020, 04:28:24 pm
This is where I say "who?" even though I know who he is, to underscore what a nonentity he has been in the race.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 04:44:21 pm
This is where I say "who?" even though I know who he is, to underscore what a nonentity he has been in the race.

Yeah, this cycle's clown car crop is sorting itself out quickly.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 04:51:17 pm
And then Bootyboo punted.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/47ffb57f286f5b57c3edffd739e13ed6
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 12:59:18 am
He's going to totally corner that Republican "OK with gays but hate Biden" vote.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 03, 2020, 02:24:56 am
Castro is a real loss for the field. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Warren/Castro ticket, but I've got a bad feeling this is coming down to Bernie and Biden
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 02:36:49 am
Castro is a real loss for the field. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Warren/Castro ticket, but I've got a bad feeling this is coming down to Bernie and Biden

Castro was never really in the field.

He had lots of interesting things to say, but he never had any actual momentum.

But I think you are correct.  Warren has lost momentum. 

THAT BEING SAID:  Doesn't matter which of the front-runners win, I'm still going to shake my ancient & vile ass out to the polling station.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: altered on January 03, 2020, 02:41:23 am
Yeah. The main difference is:

Warren, Iíll do so happily.
Bernie, Iíll do so without caring much either way.

Biden, Iíll do so while frothing expletives. THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN FUCKING DO?

Iíll be leading with my ass and exiting with P3ntís ghostly head hanging out of my mouth like a vile, deranged parasite, cussing fit to give old people aneurysms at three hundred yards.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 03:35:23 am
Yeah. The main difference is:

Warren, Iíll do so happily.
Bernie, Iíll do so without caring much either way.

Biden, Iíll do so while frothing expletives. THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN FUCKING DO?

Iíll be leading with my ass and exiting with P3ntís ghostly head hanging out of my mouth like a vile, deranged parasite, cussing fit to give old people aneurysms at three hundred yards.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on January 03, 2020, 02:56:46 pm
Buttigieg is really just "Biden, but younger and with rainbows". He needs to go away.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 03:06:53 pm
Buttigieg is really just "Biden, but younger and with rainbows". He needs to go away.

He's worse than Biden by far.

He sold his own minority group out for a chicken sandwich on live TV.  Next to Buttigieg, Biden is Goddamn Teddy Roosevelt.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on January 03, 2020, 03:15:22 pm
Buttigieg is really just "Biden, but younger and with rainbows". He needs to go away.

He's worse than Biden by far.

He sold his own minority group out for a chicken sandwich on live TV.  Next to Buttigieg, Biden is Goddamn Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm pretty sure Biden, if he were young and queer, would also do that. And yes I know he sold us out for that fucking sandwich. I ugly laughed bc I TOLD all my queer friends who liked him that he was a piece of shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 03:39:43 pm
Buttigieg is really just "Biden, but younger and with rainbows". He needs to go away.

He's worse than Biden by far.

He sold his own minority group out for a chicken sandwich on live TV.  Next to Buttigieg, Biden is Goddamn Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm pretty sure Biden, if he were young and queer, would also do that. And yes I know he sold us out for that fucking sandwich. I ugly laughed bc I TOLD all my queer friends who liked him that he was a piece of shit.

Biden would harm them, but for their own good.  He is the classic example of paternalism.  Buttgieg is just a weasel.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on January 03, 2020, 03:41:54 pm
He's Chuck E. Cheese's humansona. 🤷
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 03:42:53 pm
He's Chuck E. Cheese's humansona. 🤷

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Bu☆ns on January 03, 2020, 03:45:02 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/fzFydZP.png)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on January 03, 2020, 03:52:28 pm
I honestly need her to drop out for realsies tho. She stopped being funny after the whole AIDS thing came out.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 05:08:18 pm
I honestly need her to drop out for realsies tho. She stopped being funny after the whole AIDS thing came out.

Oh, it kept getting funnier, for a given sense of humor.  The primary is a clown car, only it's running people over because it's a Tesla and it's on fire because it's electric.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 13, 2020, 06:27:56 pm
Booker is out.

https://apnews.com/7a3630602005f50be4c7c7aa483c9e6e
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 09:53:16 pm
Bleak.

https://apnews.com/115076e2bd194cfa7560cb4642ab8038
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on February 04, 2020, 11:35:10 am
So Iowa apparently doesn't know how to use their phones, and all the candidates except Biden seem to be declaring victory...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 04, 2020, 02:32:19 pm
"RESULTS EXPECTED SOON" for the last 13 hours.  :lulz:

 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2020, 02:33:10 pm
Yeah. Trialling a new app and reporting system for the Iowa caucases seems like a pretty stupid idea...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 04, 2020, 02:34:38 pm
Yeah. Trialling a new app and reporting system for the Iowa caucases seems like a pretty stupid idea...

It's only going to get dumber, because the democratic party is dumber. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 04, 2020, 05:45:22 pm
If you are too stupid to have a backup plan, you're not gonna have a good time.

https://apnews.com/65327a2b9acbc9c903ef7f906bfce1f4
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2020, 06:14:46 pm
Great, hours more of people screaming conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: LMNO on February 04, 2020, 06:23:41 pm
I wish someone would remind them of how well Pokemon Go worked when it was first launched.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 04, 2020, 06:29:50 pm
Great, hours more of people screaming conspiracy theories.

I am watching the worst Bernie Bro I know already screeching about how this is all a conspiracy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cramulus on February 04, 2020, 08:07:28 pm
yeah we're in one of those chaotic moments where all the BREAKING NEWS is unreliable

and it's about to get even more confusing



in my youth, I cherished these moments - anything could happen!
now I recognize that anything could happen is usually grim as fuck
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 04, 2020, 09:28:45 pm
Seems Vermin Supreme is doing pretty good.

https://nationalfile.com/somehow-vermin-supreme-is-winning-the-libertarian-partys-2020-presidential-primaries/
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 04, 2020, 10:11:29 pm
yeah we're in one of those chaotic moments where all the BREAKING NEWS is unreliable

and it's about to get even more confusing



in my youth, I cherished these moments - anything could happen!
now I recognize that anything could happen is usually grim as fuck

That's when the ability to laugh through the pain really pays off.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Pergamos on February 05, 2020, 02:13:44 am
Seems Vermin Supreme is doing pretty good.

https://nationalfile.com/somehow-vermin-supreme-is-winning-the-libertarian-partys-2020-presidential-primaries/

Funny, since ponies for everyone is basically the exact opposite of Libertarianism.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 05, 2020, 07:58:27 am
Seems Vermin Supreme is doing pretty good.

https://nationalfile.com/somehow-vermin-supreme-is-winning-the-libertarian-partys-2020-presidential-primaries/

Funny, since ponies for everyone is basically the exact opposite of Libertarianism.

Yeah. It's great. They found themselves a much more wholesome incoherent demogog than the one currently in office, and a serious "joke" candidate suitable to a joke party.

One of his slogans I've seen tossed around is just brilliant.

"I want to take your guns, and then give you better guns!"

I do hope he manages to break out into the popular culture.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Johnny on February 05, 2020, 08:32:29 am

"Vermin Supreme, leader of the Free World" has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 05, 2020, 11:07:26 am

"Vermin Supreme, leader of the Free World" has a nice ring to it.

It does doesn't it? At the end of the election he could just unilaterally declare a victory, that was suppressed by Them, go bigger than Norton, and take on that title with nothing to lose and gain real notoriety if nothing else.

One day Vermin Supreme will be upon all lips.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Faust on February 05, 2020, 11:30:54 am
I don't see the Dems winning, but if they did the only one I could see unilaterally declaring their victory being suppressed is the cheeto.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 05, 2020, 11:38:10 am
I don't see the Dems winning, but if they did the only one I could see unilaterally declaring their victory being suppressed is the cheeto.

All Supreme would have to do is mirror that and show it absurd. It wouldn't change much, but if the game is baseless accusations and blowing smoke I think Supreme might just have an edge. At the very least he is not boring.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 02:31:21 pm

Yeah. It's great. They found themselves a much more wholesome incoherent demogog than the one currently in office, a

Boom.  Practicable solution.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 05, 2020, 02:34:39 pm
I believe the system is collapsing because everyone has realized how preposterous it is to bother trying to govern at all. We are ready for utopia, as can be seen from the high level of every individual consciousness in the deep south.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2020, 02:36:15 pm
I don't see the Dems winning, but if they did the only one I could see unilaterally declaring their victory being suppressed is the cheeto.

And if Trump wins, I think he'll call for term limits to be abolished. As soon as he leaves the Presidency, he's liable to be investigated for a whole lot of crimes, and he'll have to rely on his on wealth, not the government budget, to defend himself.

So of course, he has all the incentive in the world not to step down.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 02:37:41 pm
I believe the system is collapsing because everyone has realized how preposterous it is to bother trying to govern at all. We are ready for utopia, as can be seen from the high level of every individual consciousness in the deep south.

 :lol:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 05, 2020, 06:15:31 pm
I don't see the Dems winning, but if they did the only one I could see unilaterally declaring their victory being suppressed is the cheeto.

And if Trump wins, I think he'll call for term limits to be abolished. As soon as he leaves the Presidency, he's liable to be investigated for a whole lot of crimes, and he'll have to rely on his on wealth, not the government budget, to defend himself.

So of course, he has all the incentive in the world not to step down.

If they, crowing in their arrogance, abolished term limits then round 3 could be Trump v Obama and The Battle of the Antichrists will be on in earnest.

Obama would have to be a total madman to do that though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on February 05, 2020, 07:26:31 pm
I don't see the Dems winning, but if they did the only one I could see unilaterally declaring their victory being suppressed is the cheeto.

And if Trump wins, I think he'll call for term limits to be abolished. As soon as he leaves the Presidency, he's liable to be investigated for a whole lot of crimes, and he'll have to rely on his on wealth, not the government budget, to defend himself.

So of course, he has all the incentive in the world not to step down.

If they, crowing in their arrogance, abolished term limits then round 3 could be Trump v Obama and The Battle of the Antichrists will be on in earnest.

Obama would have to be a total madman to do that though.
The base is already calling for this bc they seem to have forgotten why we hate monarchies.


Alright, so technically the DNC can run anyone they want regardless of the primary results. I won't be surprised if they shoehorn Biden - God help us all - into the candidacy. I predict a fucking root at the DNC convention if that happens but what do y'all think?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:21:37 pm

The base is already calling for this bc they seem to have forgotten why we hate monarchies.


Because none of the useless fucks ever read the book of Samuel, that's why.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on February 12, 2020, 01:10:08 am
Aaaaand Yang is out  (http://"https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/andrew-yang-drops-out-presidential-race-n1134161?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR22RIdi9wpeDZNQr6OPg_Z4tX2SVhnTG2syod5QtJfOhisIBv132oVRhCI")
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 12, 2020, 01:16:58 am
Somebody just said "Yang Gang" unironically on the news and that almost makes up for this whole fuckin fiasco.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 04:20:06 am
Aaaaand Yang is out  (http://"https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/andrew-yang-drops-out-presidential-race-n1134161?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR22RIdi9wpeDZNQr6OPg_Z4tX2SVhnTG2syod5QtJfOhisIBv132oVRhCI")

Also Bennett, and Patrick is supposed to drop tomorrow.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
Post by: Juana on February 12, 2020, 06:10:41 am
I've never heard of either of them tbh.