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Title: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 05:11:04 am
Last thing before bed

My attack of THE HOLIES might have gotten me a writing gig

Tomorrow it begins

I was subtly asked to provide More Future, All Bad, and The Words Of The Priestess Of The Rancid Meats

I have been informed I Am The Story and thus from here on out my damage is under NDA

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 21, 2019, 08:19:18 am

Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?

We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.

Pretty please.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:04:51 am
It's an annoyance, mostly because I kind of have to leave all the intake business to Cain, whom I imagine has other things that need doing.

But in your own time, Faust, as it is only an annoyance.

Ah, 4 clicks and it's all gone. It's not that much work. As you say, it's more of an annoyance.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:06:04 am
It's an annoyance, mostly because I kind of have to leave all the intake business to Cain, whom I imagine has other things that need doing.

But in your own time, Faust, as it is only an annoyance.
Instead of deleting them, banning them works too, if its @viagraspam.com or something can ban with rule *@viagraspam and that will stop any more from there

That's what I've been doing. It's just as quick as actually banning them, and it will (hopefully, eventually) reduce the number of signups down the line.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on November 21, 2019, 02:05:20 pm

Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?

We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.

Pretty please.

Shut the fuck up, shitneck.






Did that help?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:19:22 pm

Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?

We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.

Pretty please.

This is a "heat death of PD" thing.  Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2019, 03:51:57 pm
Facebook sucked all the energy out of independent websites.  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 03:53:04 pm
Facebook is dark energy

The internet is expanding
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 04:07:13 pm
Facebook sucked all the energy out of independent websites.  :sad:

There are about two that are still cooking.  I can provide links when I get home.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 04:07:37 pm
Facebook is dark energy

The internet is expanding

This is where the FBP jokes start, right?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:13:59 pm
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 10:21:51 pm
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........

Whoops.  Edited your post instead of responding:

Update:  It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.

Thanks, PACNW.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:42:54 pm
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........

Whoops.  Edited your post instead of responding:

Update:  It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.

Thanks, PACNW.


DA MODZ ARE DRUNK WIF POWER!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 10:43:58 pm
EAT THEM
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:44:38 pm
EAT THEM

what makes you think I haven't?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 10:46:29 pm
EAT THEM

what makes you think I haven't?

Because if you ate Cain you would shortly thereafter stop existing, courtesy of satellite coordinated bombardment
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on November 21, 2019, 10:56:28 pm
EAT THEM

what makes you think I haven't?

Because if you ate Cain you would shortly thereafter stop existing, courtesy of satellite coordinated bombardment

I think we're talking about different things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 11:12:44 pm
Probably.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 22, 2019, 09:06:38 am

Butthole = Brexit'ed
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on November 22, 2019, 10:17:25 am
The reality is that I am actually very thankful for the updates from Tucson, Boston, London, etc...........

Whoops.  Edited your post instead of responding:

Update:  It has been freezing rain for the last 3 days, tomorrow it gets worse, then ends at 4 PM, right after everyone dies.

Thanks, PACNW.

You're welcome.  It's been beautiful here, not warm, but not cold, and sunny.  We didn't steal your weather though, cause it's colder than Tucson ever really gets, just shipped you ours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 12:43:35 pm
Speaking of reality, I somehow missed the fact that Gene Ray died.

I mourn his passing with every 4 simultaneous rotations of the earth
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 12:52:08 pm

Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?

We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.

Pretty please.

This is a "heat death of PD" thing.  Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.

Yeah, and it's not like Facebook is BETTER

I do miss longform posts, interesting threads, being on a site where people worked to build fun topics for each other

I feel like we've all survived some shit together

Every so often I'll press the "new thread" button and try to come up with something here, but then Cate Blanchett's voice comes in and says "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in deez nuts" and I realize that there is a secret ring---a secret NFL ring, from the secret superbowl. And we missed it. But we missed it together. Fnord.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 01:52:59 pm

Hey guys, remember how the forum had a psychotic breakout of in-fighting like clockwork around winter?

We need that back, cause in it's abscence it's the world that's doing it, and everything is on fire.

Pretty please.

This is a "heat death of PD" thing.  Things have spread out so far that no two spags can interact.

Yeah, and it's not like Facebook is BETTER

I do miss longform posts, interesting threads, being on a site where people worked to build fun topics for each other

I feel like we've all survived some shit together

Every so often I'll press the "new thread" button and try to come up with something here, but then Cate Blanchett's voice comes in and says "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in deez nuts" and I realize that there is a secret ring---a secret NFL ring, from the secret superbowl. And we missed it. But we missed it together. Fnord.

FB is fine for torquing people up, but I am currently halfway through a ban and I'm okay with it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:09:02 pm
Last night, I was playing D&D with my D&D friends and it occurred to me that none of them are on facebook.

So when I talk to them, they are not "caught up" on whatever's going on, and I get to tell them stuff IN PERSON. Which is cool! Who does that??
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:16:10 pm
Last night, I was playing D&D with my D&D friends and it occurred to me that none of them are on facebook.

So when I talk to them, they are not "caught up" on whatever's going on, and I get to tell them stuff IN PERSON. Which is cool! Who does that??

The more I'm caught up on things, the dumber and more unhappy I am, and I want to share that feeling with others.

FB is perfect for that. 

But the funny thing:

As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing.  Signal dropped.  Okay.

As FB gets older, people are more and more prone to "Like" and "Share" things without comment.  So you get a pic of the President violating the Mann Act with a possum, and suddenly that pic is EVERYWHERE, and nobody knows the reason WHY the president was fucking a possum.  FB *also* proves the Churchill Principle:  A lies runs around the world before the truth can get its pants on.  This has allowed absolute polarization on things like Brexit, the impeachment, and the president fucking possums.

Social media may be the last cultural invention humans develop.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 02:50:10 pm
Web 2.0 was a terrible, terrible mistake.

We should have stopped at the point where people were sharing fake bomb recipes and posting about mushrooms and badgers. That was when the internet was at its best.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 22, 2019, 07:19:11 pm

As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing.  Signal dropped.  Okay.


Idk, like, last thread I posted was a by-product of some 1000 pages of reading and dozens of hours of work... and it got like 10 replies... and while the thread only costed me about an hour of work redacting, it felt unfulfilling.

I'm not sure what to make of it really... I think the discussions changed from ahistorical topics so to speak, towards discussing real-life ongoing events/things/news.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 22, 2019, 07:23:17 pm
The stuff people put the most work into has ALWAYS been historically the stuff that gets the least feedback, with occasional exceptions for stuff like the Nessieís thing, the Spiders stuff, and Holy Nonsense. So, okay, the stuff a SINGLE person puts the most work into. Point being that that has not changed, even as the forum has become fairly slow moving.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 07:42:35 pm
I wasn't complaining, just stating that BBS use is down, and FB is up.  It's not on the user base, it's just that systems advanced, and people would rather be on a platform with millions of people rather than hundreds of people.

PD.COM:  The last buggy whip factory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 07:45:28 pm

As this BBS slowed down, people took to the F5 thing.  Signal dropped.  Okay.


Idk, like, last thread I posted was a by-product of some 1000 pages of reading and dozens of hours of work... and it got like 10 replies... and while the thread only costed me about an hour of work redacting, it felt unfulfilling.

I'm not sure what to make of it really... I think the discussions changed from ahistorical topics so to speak, towards discussing real-life ongoing events/things/news.

Yeah, I had to completely rework my thinking to stop getting mad about that.  Now I go back and look and I spent like 7 years bitching that PD was dead.  It took the big December 2015 meltdown to get me to change what I was after, here.

I also more or less stopped writing, but I am unsure that's actually connected.  I think it's more "I had my say."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on November 22, 2019, 07:58:43 pm
The difference is this place is a treasure trove, have you ever found yourself looking for old discussions in groups on Facebook.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 08:48:46 pm
Facebook is a literal sewer-pipe connecting inbred weirdo alt-right people from my home town and family, continually spewing utter garbage in my face 24/7. Maybe, that's just my inbred white-trash ass, maybe not. Old friends from a well-rated high school and life after high school, all spewing the same mindless psychobabble as back in the day, and they say I'M the drama queen. No thanks. I'll take this shit-show over that one any day.

Fuck Facebutt.

Arguably I got a bunch of ultra-conservatives saying it was alright that I was pilfering the government dole early in life, because I am genuinely FUBAR in the noggin and I've actually done good shit for society. I tried explaining "Well, just like me, there are many others that those from your perspective write off instinctually without taking a good, long look at the situation, actually YOU do that to whole groups of people, the only reason you agree with me being supported by the system is because you know me, and you've listened to what I've gone through."

That's not right, I encourage them to cultivate empathy, but they're too hung up on this mythological human beast that doesn't WANT to work and be productive. Come on now, that's a miserable existence and almost no one would willingly consign themselves to that... well, except spoiled rich brats.

EDIT: My purpose now is to settle down and make a bunch of multi-racial babies with a fantastic, talented young woman, and do my best to see that her emotional needs are met. That'll learn 'em.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 08:56:03 pm
The difference is this place is a treasure trove, have you ever found yourself looking for old discussions in groups on Facebook.

Oh, not arguing.  I am grateful that this place keeps trundling along.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 23, 2019, 01:37:51 am
SUP DICKBUTTS?

I finished losing the election and I'm working on some shit. You all still breathing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 23, 2019, 01:51:19 am
Iíve stopped breathing and become a miniature Dok Howl.

Now I landed a writing gig for my madness.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 23, 2019, 02:32:06 am
I've been enjoying my job, recently.

The three-year project of unrelenting hideousness lies warm and gurgling in a shallow grave, and I've been performing an exorcism or two for other projects which yet shamble, doomed and groaning, upon this cursŤd earth.

Also, some proposal work.  They accidentally left me without adult supervision, so I kept going after running the initial estimates and started implementing prototypes.  I've gotten more real work done in the last two weeks than in the last two months.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 23, 2019, 02:45:51 am
I'm doing unusually well. A revanent requires sustenance in the form of purpose, and it sure feels like clawing my way out of the grave, but it's coming along. Ye olde vengeance ran out a long time ago and been running on fumes for over a decade, needed something new. In short, I feel alive again, and it was so far gone that I didn't realize just how dead everything was until I got slapped in the face with a new reason.

Sorry to hear you lost the election, you seem like a quality individual, maybe next time?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2019, 03:35:39 am
I have 9 days off in a row.  I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.

Sorry to hear you lost.  I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 23, 2019, 04:46:31 am
I have 9 days off in a row.  I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.

Sorry to hear you lost.  I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.

Right? Sheíd be functional, efficient, AND hilarious. Thereís no downside.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 23, 2019, 05:12:41 pm
I have 9 days off in a row.  I'm going to be insane by Tuesday.

Sorry to hear you lost.  I was rather hoping to see you do your thing.

Most folks lose their first, and I'm well positioned for next time. Those signs were expensive, I ain't walking away yet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 23, 2019, 10:23:17 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PH2bSxo3XQs

Todayís soundtrack: FUCK YOU UNIVERSE I WIN
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Al Qədic on November 24, 2019, 02:41:49 am
Man, I've missed some shit.


The tail-end of some bot spam. QGP's birthday. Null landing a thing. This fancy new bar opening up. Damn.


The past few weeks for me have been Grey-fueled-ennui-fueled procrastination amongst poetry, ancient to early-modern literature, and ancient fucking Greek. The language, not the history, or the mythology. I'm not so much pissed as I am chuckling while also being annoyed by the sound of my own laugh.


In other news, estrogen continues to get injected into my body. I have a burgeoning desire to inject a guerilla art campaign into the boring campus around me (details pending). An anime going around since the 60s is making me learn how to be a better person by way of ancient monsters and closeted gays wholesome "friendships". I've been planning to make a thread devoted to my own brain-crotch goblins, but that day is not today. Also I have a bottle of white-out in my desk that I keep forgetting to bring with me places in lieu of actual paint.


Meanwhile, my lunch order number the other day was 23, I've been sitting in seat E-5 in my classes at times, and discoshit made its way into some of my more recent poems for the sake of easy Outlandishness. Fuckin' Fnords, man.


So, I'm not out of the woods yet, but some of the trees make music and I might decorate the rest with invisible ink.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 24, 2019, 02:46:20 am
I have THINGS for you my friend

You wonít want them, and by that point it will be too late

Also welcome back
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Al Qədic on November 24, 2019, 02:53:39 am
I have THINGS for you my friend

You wonít want them, and by that point it will be too late

Also welcome back
Much appreciated, Null. I missed you too. Sorry to hear about that shitty shitty knee/leg pain by the way. As a slim gal with cerebral palsy, myself, christ I can only imagine how fucked your legs must feel. Especially since it's actually winter now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 24, 2019, 03:04:14 am
My knees are just MEAT and MEAT goes to the MEAT PLACE and I CAN SMELL IT SCREAMING

Ohhhhhhh Iím revving up a FOUL little pellet of horror oh god oh god
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on November 26, 2019, 12:07:04 pm
Took the plunge and nuked the facebook and reddit, trying to limit my time to feedly, hackernews and here, I find myself absentmindedly trying for them every so often but I was getting diminishing returns on them so I am going to try stay clean for a while.
I rarely post about personal stuff and I am unsure how to start: We have a baby on the way in April, this will be our first so I am expecting a lot of change after that but not worried about the feeding, nights etc, more worried about when they become mobile down the line and childproofing the house, turning it into less of a death trap.
At work I'm doing the system architecture and that has its ups and downs (making something is more fun then drafting how to make it), it looks like we might be expanding into the US, I've never actually been so I might be over once or twice when we are setting up on the ground, we'll be doing much the same as Ireland and the UK (demand side management for grid services, (moving MW around).
Playing Hollow Knight, this year has been great for games, film and TV not as much.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on November 26, 2019, 01:12:49 pm
Congrats on the kid!  Sounds like you're doing all right. Good to hear.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2019, 01:29:55 pm
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on November 26, 2019, 08:25:08 pm
Oh, congrats, man!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 26, 2019, 08:53:49 pm
I got screwed. At the final hour.

I have a place lined up, I have roommates, I can PROBABLY get 2000 dollars to show up in three days time.

Edit posted too soon Iím kind of a mess:

What I canít find in three days is a co-signer. I have to back out and leave these people fuckin hanging and submit to homelessness again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:07:21 pm
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 26, 2019, 09:09:02 pm
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?

Itís more that no one I work with would dare legally attach themselves to someone with a HISTORY of CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS when it comes to paying rent. And I canít even blame them for that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on November 26, 2019, 09:15:56 pm
Aww, Jesus, man. That fucking sucks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 26, 2019, 09:17:00 pm
I was literally at the finish line, and theyíre lassoing me back to square zero.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:33:29 pm
Does no-one you work with fit the criterea?

Itís more that no one I work with would dare legally attach themselves to someone with a HISTORY of CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS when it comes to paying rent. And I canít even blame them for that.

Does it have to be an individual? I'm thinking that this is the kind of thing where HR could come in handy. After all, you want to keep working for them, having a stable living situation would help with that. If someone from HR agrees to sign off on it, everyone wins.

I had to give HR as my reference when renting in London, though my situation is slightly different in that I previously rented from the company I worked for. Still, it may be worth asking. For a company, it's nowhere near as big a risk.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 26, 2019, 10:03:21 pm
Not a reference.

Co-signer. If I canít pay rent for whatever reason (hit by a car or blow my check at the casinos) then they pay for me.

Thereís no way the company does that for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 26, 2019, 11:12:23 pm
Took the plunge and nuked the facebook and reddit, trying to limit my time to feedly, hackernews and here, I find myself absentmindedly trying for them every so often but I was getting diminishing returns on them so I am going to try stay clean for a while.
I rarely post about personal stuff and I am unsure how to start: We have a baby on the way in April, this will be our first so I am expecting a lot of change after that but not worried about the feeding, nights etc, more worried about when they become mobile down the line and childproofing the house, turning it into less of a death trap.
At work I'm doing the system architecture and that has its ups and downs (making something is more fun then drafting how to make it), it looks like we might be expanding into the US, I've never actually been so I might be over once or twice when we are setting up on the ground, we'll be doing much the same as Ireland and the UK (demand side management for grid services, (moving MW around).
Playing Hollow Knight, this year has been great for games, film and TV not as much.

That's awesome, dude!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 26, 2019, 11:52:51 pm

ZZZ

I got back with an ex-girlfriend from 12 years ago... we initially broke it off back then cause we were both so retarded and low key addicts that we mistreated each other all the time (never ever physical nor psychological abuse, just chaos and unstability)... despite that she always found a way to keep in contact throughouht all these years, although i was for the most part respectfully dismissive, just going out to just literally talk or walk around once in a while without anything more.

But recently I broke it off with some long distance relationship that was going nowhere after 5 years, and I havent dated or wanted to date locally for about a year and a half (ive had my flings, just to state that im not an incel)... and I thought to myself, i must really mean something to her if shes been seeking me out for such a long time, moreso cause shes a bit deeper than me on the autism/introversion spectrum or however you want to call it... shes very pretty too, so she could easily pick out of the litter whatever she wants (im not fugly, but that's not what i would call my forte)... shes been single for like 3 and a half years, which she tells me is when her boyfriend hit her (it was the second relationship where that had happened to her).

So idk, what's you peoples input? Please
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on November 27, 2019, 12:00:53 am
I generally think that getting back together is a bad idea buuuut...are both of you in healthier places? Is she somebody you can sit down and have real conversations about what sucked last time and what to do differently this time? Are you the kind of person who can entertain those needed conversations? Has she processed the trauma from domestic violence?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 12:02:54 am
First of all, as someone on the autism spectrum:

No, just staying in touch with you means nothing of that sort. I get caught in rituals very easily. When I have a problem, only two or three people come to mind when it comes to helping me solve it, depending on the problem. Some people I talk to everyday, some I talk to once a year or less. It very rarely means anything except this is how Iíve put my life together.

That said, be blunt without being an asshole, and accept the first answer given at face value without putting too much emotional reaction into it. Anyone I know on the autism spectrum would kill to have people just say what theyíre thinking and not react overjoyed (uh oh am I being manipulated) or pissed off (uh oh I forgot how to human) when we respond in kind.

Edit: Also, the above.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 01:05:15 am
I generally think that getting back together is a bad idea buuuut...are both of you in healthier places? Is she somebody you can sit down and have real conversations about what sucked last time and what to do differently this time? Are you the kind of person who can entertain those needed conversations? Has she processed the trauma from domestic violence?

Yeaaaah, I for the most part think getting back with an ex is a horrible idea too...

Me personally I've "matured" a lot i think, have been 14 years in therapy (first 2 years it was constant, after that it's for sporadic 8 session periods for specific issues, or one-off sessions for supervision matters or academic discussions)... ive also gone thru all that implies a bachelors in psych and in a month ill have my full psychoanalyst credentials... and I mean im 33, havent done hard-drugs in a decade, my only real addiction is nicotine and coffee and its not like out of control levels...... on her side shes 30 now, no more drugs, has a steady and demanding job for a long time.

Yeah, weve talked about the past and agreed that we lived thru some rocky awful times, and we dont really hold grudges and how things can be better now... I asked her about the violence stuff, but she didnt feel ready to talk about it, i think shes still very much affected by it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on November 27, 2019, 01:10:56 am
Is she in therapy for it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 01:11:35 am
First of all, as someone on the autism spectrum:

No, just staying in touch with you means nothing of that sort. I get caught in rituals very easily. When I have a problem, only two or three people come to mind when it comes to helping me solve it, depending on the problem. Some people I talk to everyday, some I talk to once a year or less. It very rarely means anything except this is how Iíve put my life together.

That said, be blunt without being an asshole, and accept the first answer given at face value without putting too much emotional reaction into it. Anyone I know on the autism spectrum would kill to have people just say what theyíre thinking and not react overjoyed (uh oh am I being manipulated) or pissed off (uh oh I forgot how to human) when we respond in kind.

Edit: Also, the above.

Well, I wrote here my interpretation of it, and i asked her about it and she confirmed it... but perhaps she felt it was what i wanted to hear? Ill keep that in mind.

And yeah, I act that way too, Ive always been a bit on the crude side of communication, but I think ive learned to be nicer/kinder about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 01:22:13 am
Is she in therapy for it?

Nope, she's always been very mistrustful and resentful with any kind of psychotherapists after she ran into a couple of them that had an "adaptation" intervention style when she was a teenager and younger.

And tbh, I completely understand that sentiment, I had like three or so really bad experiences with therapists myself... theres so many shitlords in the field that just want to change or mold people to fit into their own notion of a worldview or ideological standards.

I mean, now I know a lot of therapists by first name terms and know their line of work, so to speak, but theres objectively so much trash practitioners... I wouldn't feel right in pushing her into that too strongly... like I know how useful it is when you find a professional one can trust in, but how to change her opinion after bad experiences... seems like a dead-end.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on November 27, 2019, 01:36:35 am
Fair enough, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 01:48:19 am
Well, my day went from bad to worse with astonishing swiftness. :lulz:

First itís the co-signer. Then sorry we donít have three days we need to be DONE TOMORROW. No warning just drop that deadline acceleration on us. Now the contact for the broker, Quinn, got psyched out and they cancelled the whole fucking thing and itís actually literally my fault because I was the only one who had no savings and no one who could get me 2200 dollars TOMORROW.

So back to the streets on Dec 1st, fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 05:50:13 am

ZZZ

I got back with an ex-girlfriend from 12 years ago... we initially broke it off back then cause we were both so retarded and low key addicts that we mistreated each other all the time (never ever physical nor psychological abuse, just chaos and unstability)... despite that she always found a way to keep in contact throughouht all these years, although i was for the most part respectfully dismissive, just going out to just literally talk or walk around once in a while without anything more.

But recently I broke it off with some long distance relationship that was going nowhere after 5 years, and I havent dated or wanted to date locally for about a year and a half (ive had my flings, just to state that im not an incel)... and I thought to myself, i must really mean something to her if shes been seeking me out for such a long time, moreso cause shes a bit deeper than me on the autism/introversion spectrum or however you want to call it... shes very pretty too, so she could easily pick out of the litter whatever she wants (im not fugly, but that's not what i would call my forte)... shes been single for like 3 and a half years, which she tells me is when her boyfriend hit her (it was the second relationship where that had happened to her).

So idk, what's you peoples input? Please

The Doktor's input:

Going back never works.  At least it works so seldom that that's how you bet.

That's not a reason to not do it, though.  Everyone gets to be a dumbass once a year or so, and if this is the way you'd prefer to be a dumbass, there are plenty of worse ways to go about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 05:57:06 am
What the hell are you talking about, Iím a dumbass every day of my goddamn life!

Oh, hell.

That explains so much actually.

Iíve used up all my dumbass days, now theyíre trying their damnedest to tax my regular days. Good fucking luck, you bastards, Iíll be a dumbass until the day you have to figure out how my skull fit through a two inch pipe but my left leg didnít. (Answer: the pressure had finally equalized by the time my right leg made it through. Also, I really should have flushed sooner.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 06:10:01 am
What the hell are you talking about, Iím a dumbass every day of my goddamn life!

Oh, hell.

That explains so much actually.

Iíve used up all my dumbass days, now theyíre trying their damnedest to tax my regular days. Good fucking luck, you bastards, Iíll be a dumbass until the day you have to figure out how my skull fit through a two inch pipe but my left leg didnít. (Answer: the pressure had finally equalized by the time my right leg made it through. Also, I really should have flushed sooner.)

I gotta say, I like this attitude. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 27, 2019, 06:14:11 am
Nullified, you are brilliant and creative. I know that may not help with this in particular, I've been homeless and confused as well. Sounds like too many requirements and too much rope-a-dope soap-on-a-rope punk-ass-choke for me, I toured couches for much of my life, leases rarely came up. Notifying the office? Please, nobody cares about that quiet weirdo that sleeps on your couch, and if they did I would've had something for them, thankfully I've grown since then. That's like contacting the home owner's assosciation to announce your weirdo cousin is coming to visit dressed in a tarp that isn't an earth-tone. Seriously, wtf.

But you got this, I believe in you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 06:22:35 am
As do I.  The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.

Under her old name, she was defeated.  The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.

Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 27, 2019, 06:33:50 am
Be proactive, not reactive. Seize the initiative. Capture the center, sac the queen, free the back row, punish the opponent.

EDIT: And move as few fucking pawns as possible you heathens!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 06:57:52 am
What happened was four separate things.

First was ditching the family for good. A lot of that old me was my environment. Under those conditions, nothing was ever up to me, because I had no agency in that household and everyone else around me had an identical attitude of entitlement. It was a bad place for being a human being.

Then I came to Boston and learned the Joy of Doing Especially When You Shouldnít, courtesy of the Queen Bitch of Flyers. There is no need to go into detail: it was high stress and high fun and we always had another thing to do.

Next, Michigan showed me a completely random person who was healthy and normal. This doesnít sound like much, but Iím used to damaged people, and even when damaged people are good, ďclear communicationĒ is hard when one party or more is stressed.

In Michigan, I also had time to relax. I could actually take in the lessons I had been learning. I had acceptance from someone who had never met me before. There was always calm and patience. I could find my pace and not worry about it. There was no Sword of Damocles.

Finally, something BROKE. This past month or two I had several occasional excursions from our primary reality. I donít know what happened, but now I have this unyielding need to CHEW, and SHIT, and MAKE A MESS. At first it manifested in a way familiar around these parts but the past two days have taken it somewhere stranger.

I am still rubbing my hands delightedly at what is coming.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 27, 2019, 07:10:30 am
It took me a long time to realize just how alone I actually was... you know, all those promises "family" gives you, the ones they never follow through with because, "We just can't right now..."... yeah, those.

But being alone, has a wonderful, majestic side, not only do you owe nothing to no one, but if you take it to extremes, and you live way outside the ass-end of society way out in the wilderness, the stars are uncountable, and you can see a distant, dusty arm of our home galaxy, that will encircle you with a hug night after night, all year round.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 27, 2019, 07:13:55 am
Nothing quite beats the psychedelic blue/black of infinite space overhead, unobscured by light pollution, reminding you how small you really are.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 03:00:29 pm
Everyone makes promises that reality prevents them from keeping.

I know for a goddamn fact that every single person I know would be helping me out with this situation if they could. But Iíve seen their situations. They CANíT unless they want to be where I am or worse. When your budget looks like: ďfood, rent, pick oneĒ and Iím desperate for both food and housing, subjecting your income to my life puts you in the same state Iím in. And the bitch of it all is that it ONLY brings you down to my level, Iím not elevated to yours.

So I donít blame my friends for saying ďNo, I canít, Iíll ask around thoughĒ. If they didnít, Iíd be worse off: Iíd have no friends AND no place to live.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 07:03:03 pm
The Doktor's input:

Going back never works.  At least it works so seldom that that's how you bet.

That's not a reason to not do it, though.  Everyone gets to be a dumbass once a year or so, and if this is the way you'd prefer to be a dumbass, there are plenty of worse ways to go about it.

I've heard they don't give out rain-checks, so I guess I'll be a dumbass before 2020 arrives.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 27, 2019, 07:09:46 pm
As do I.  The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.

Under her old name, she was defeated.  The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.

Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.

From what I've read Null has this scrappy attitude (in the positive sense) where you get kicked but don't stay down, and it's something we all should strive for being... I don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 07:43:04 pm
As do I.  The difference between when Nullified first showed up here and now is pretty dramatic.

Under her old name, she was defeated.  The universe was pissing on her Cheerios, aided and abetted by her beaten-down demeanor.

Not sure what happened between then and now, but Nullified has the right amount of grit to start making the world react to her, rather than the world mostly just happening to her.

From what I've read Null has this scrappy attitude (in the positive sense) where you get kicked but don't stay down, and it's something we all should strive for being... I don't know what else to say.

Or when you get kicked, you wear the bastard's skin as a suit while you spray nerve gas on his family at Christmas time.

One or the other.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 07:49:28 pm
 :lulz:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c8AM79TNIMs

This is basically my attitude. Iíll take what I can get, and I donít know HOW to stop. Iím fucking ROYALTY BY BIRTHRIGHT like EVERY HUMAN BEING BEFORE AND AFTER ME and I donít give a fuck if my dominion is a pile of dirt and a dead rat in a corner, Iím fucking ruling it.

Iíve been at square zero more times than most people realize you can get to it and survive the trip back and Iím sure Iíll be going back ten more times before the end of the fucking decade.

They keep pulling the rug out from under me but what they havenít learned is that shit is ruining the goddamn rug and sooner or later they wonít be able to pull that tired ass joke anymore because itís hard to fuck up my footing when youíre just tugging some stray threads held together by dust bunnies and hope.

I WILL WIN even if itís only by forcing them to trip on my fucking bones, the cocksuckers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 27, 2019, 08:21:57 pm
Cain, check out "Antonaise" in the waiting room.  :lol:

It's like they aren't even trying anymore.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 27, 2019, 08:37:08 pm
Tell me thereís screenshots  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2019, 08:40:01 pm
Cain, check out "Antonaise" in the waiting room.  :lol:

It's like they aren't even trying anymore.

Back when I were a wee lad, spambots at least tried to look like real people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Fujikoma on November 28, 2019, 03:08:36 am
Nullified, I have been back at square zero so many times THAT, is my kingdom. I squat in a bush and plot, skinning wild animals to wear so I can absorb their powers. I watch, I wait, I prowl, I hibernate, waiting, because I've pounced too soon before, this next time may be my last pounce, so I'm going to make damn sure it's worth it. The brush is safe, hidden from view. When next I emerge I'll either be unstoppable, or it's done, and I've snagged a juicy little rabbit that may be the key to all my goals. Not skinning this one, no no, just need some modifications to the burrow's openening so I can squeeze in with everyone else.

We've got it this time, the worst wolf in sheep's clothing is the one that honestly sides with the sheep.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 28, 2019, 06:06:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)

PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on November 28, 2019, 06:28:17 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)

PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE

FEEL THE DEATH FROM THE TAMDOURINE, OH YEA
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 28, 2019, 09:23:40 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/O9J8CD1.png)

PANCING QUEEN
FEEL THE BEAT OF THE TREMENDOUS PANCE
OH YEAH
SHE CAN POOMP, SHE CAN JIVE,
HAVING THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE

Pancingqueen is so fucking on brand. I fucking canít  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 05:17:37 am
I'm going to Black Friday tomorrow.  I'm not shopping, I'm just there to observe stupid humans and maybe make things worse.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 05:38:35 am
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick.  The waiting room is full of shamblers.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on November 29, 2019, 08:51:56 am
I'm going to Black Friday tomorrow.  I'm not shopping, I'm just there to observe stupid humans and maybe make things worse.

I did that a few years back when they were still doing the midnight rampage thing. My schtick was to grab carts, push them into particularly congested areas and abandon them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on November 29, 2019, 09:43:30 am
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick.  The waiting room is full of shamblers.

We are living in a Romero shopping mall
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 04:11:49 pm
I feel like I'm in a zombie flick.  The waiting room is full of shamblers.

We are living in a Romero shopping mall
Reader Rant has the same problem, and it got worse for them at the same time as it did for us, if that's any consolation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2019, 04:50:55 pm
And given they're on different software, it suggests the problem is that the internet is being flooded with bots lately.

I mean, moreso than usual, obviously.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2019, 11:13:13 pm
And given they're on different software, it suggests the problem is that the internet is being flooded with bots lately.

I mean, moreso than usual, obviously.

Yeah, this trend is recent and pretty abrupt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 29, 2019, 11:37:16 pm
I can say itís universal as of today.

Weíre getting some outrageously fake emails at work, with some crazy domains as shown in here.

The one that nearly caught me almost looked human but the email had ďsent from Yahoo MaievorfilĒ in it and then... not a yahoo address. Hotmail. Ahahahah.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 30, 2019, 01:14:03 am
I can say itís universal as of today.

Weíre getting some outrageously fake emails at work, with some crazy domains as shown in here.

The one that nearly caught me almost looked human but the email had ďsent from Yahoo MaievorfilĒ in it and then... not a yahoo address. Hotmail. Ahahahah.

Our IT guy is on the stick, so we don't get those, but something is definitely going on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on November 30, 2019, 02:20:21 am
Our IT team seems to be chosen based on malicious incompetence.

I have met one person in IT who didnít have their head so far up their ass they were incapable of doing basic troubleshooting. They were crying and would not speak to me, they just waved wordlessly at my computer and walked away.

Iím not joking.

Obviously, they quit next day. No notice. No call no show. Been two months of that.

EDIT: I know they werenít incompetent because I had seen them fix my supervisors computer an hour prior. They were very angry and kept telling the lead to ďSHUT UP Iím trying to work fuck goddamnĒ
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 01, 2019, 10:49:44 pm
Today Iíve started to understand the meaning of ďSide Effect CityĒ.

Slow day. Everyoneís brains are semi functional to nonfunctional. Iím working at half the pace of a bad day. Iím exhausted feeling. Sluggish. Ravenous.

Whatís going on? I ate my weight today and slept all night last night. Thereís no call for this shit.

Someone mentions feeling cold. Supervisor checks the temperature.

Itís 64 degrees.

Someone mentions that is well below OSHA standards.

I recall that you fall asleep easier at lower temperatures.

Today management will see a precipitous drop in metrics across the company. The answer for why is they tried to save on heating bills and everyone got drowsy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 02, 2019, 08:17:29 pm
Today I went to work.

For two and a half hours.

I was FINE then without warning everything went sideways, I turned bright red all over, and all the food and orange juice I could find didnít help me at least stumble back to work.

Then I wiped a hand across my sweating brow and realized I was painfully hot.

Iím on my way to urgent care now. Fucking hooray.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 02, 2019, 08:19:55 pm
Today I went to work.

For two and a half hours.

I was FINE then without warning everything went sideways, I turned bright red all over, and all the food and orange juice I could find didnít help me at least stumble back to work.

Then I wiped a hand across my sweating brow and realized I was painfully hot.

Iím on my way to urgent care now. Fucking hooray.

Sorry to hear about this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 02, 2019, 11:11:29 pm
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Stop me if youíve heard this one:

Go to the doctorís office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. Youíre shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so itís not chicanery.

But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. ďThis sure is concerning but we canít see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?Ē

AGAIN.

Oh wait, youíve never heard that one?

The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 02, 2019, 11:52:31 pm
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Stop me if youíve heard this one:

Go to the doctorís office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. Youíre shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so itís not chicanery.

But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. ďThis sure is concerning but we canít see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?Ē

AGAIN.

Oh wait, youíve never heard that one?

The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:

Not that it makes it any less serious, but, could it be psycho-somatic? I don't know how sleazy doctors are over there or your medical issues.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 12:16:10 am
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Stop me if youíve heard this one:

Go to the doctorís office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. Youíre shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so itís not chicanery.

But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. ďThis sure is concerning but we canít see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?Ē

AGAIN.

Oh wait, youíve never heard that one?

The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:

Not that it makes it any less serious, but, could it be psycho-somatic? I don't know how sleazy doctors are over there or your medical issues.

My stress levels back in 2012 were high enough that my arms and legs went totally numb.

Now I have drugs and things are much better.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:17:26 am
Second DM session went for nearly 4 hours.

From this I have learned one thing: everything takes longer than you planned. Everything.

On the plus side our plucky heroes (who are most certainly not mercenary murderhobos with an ability to think one step ahead) have now stumbled into an off-the-books secret military program, which opens up all kinds of fun adventures and people to kill.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:18:07 am
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Stop me if youíve heard this one:

Go to the doctorís office or urgent care or emergency room. Alarming list of symptoms, most can be independently verified. You certainly feel hot to the touch, your hands are BRIGHT RED, your eyes visibly go out of focus at random times. Youíre shaking like a leaf and have provably low muscle strength, no muscles tensed, so itís not chicanery.

But your blood shows normal, EKG is normal, even your body temperature claims to be normal. Despite feeling hot to the touch to trained doctors. ďThis sure is concerning but we canít see any reason to be worried about it? Keep an eye on it, go to the ER if it gets worse? It might even just be anxiety?Ē

AGAIN.

Oh wait, youíve never heard that one?

The only time a medical professional has dared to guess what was wrong with me was when I had a toothache. :lulz: :lulz:

Is it lupus?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 03, 2019, 12:26:16 am
It could be psychosomatic, absolutely. I really highly doubt it (psychosomatic symptoms tend to build up over time, the undeniable physical symptoms are partially a result of all the attention youíve paid to them) but Iím not by far going to rule that out.

In fact, Iím also not going to rule that out for everything else.

My brain is weird. Itís quite possible that itís the cause of /all/ of this shit. I know the lit on conversion disorder. Psychosomatic symptoms go fucking far, way out into ďwhat the fuckĒ land and beyond.

But I really, really donít think itís the case. I think something weird is up. The fact the doctors are baffled and arenít willing to jump with both feet into psychosomatic issues makes me more confident in this, itís more a reluctant ďhereís what I gotĒ non answer.


Edit: I sincerely doubt itís lupus  :lulz: :lulz:

Honest best guess: itís the interaction of a whole bunch of medium-probability issues that donít often crop up together at all, let alone all of them in one comorbid clusterfuck. This is JUST AS LIKELY as me having won the rare disease lottery and picking up something that doesnít totally bar all hope of living a normal life but which no one else in the world has, I grant you, but I am more willing to believe a small gang of Things That Happened Before Actually Pretty Often Really over One Crazy Thing, All New, Never Before Seen.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 03, 2019, 12:36:33 am
Oh and to be clear: because I actually know about conversion disorder and such, I donít get all ďNO IM NOT CRAZYĒ about it. Itís more of a ďHm, could be. Do you think itís more or less likely than something actually being there? Best guess.Ē

Tonightís lady paused and you could see gears turning, hesitation, then... ďLike I said, if itís not gone tomorrow, or if it gets worse, go to the ER.Ē

If someone is willing to buy psychosomatic symptoms and you think thatís most likely the issue, the only reason I can see not to say as much is no confidence in your own reading of whatís in front of you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 03, 2019, 01:51:39 am
My stress levels back in 2012 were high enough that my arms and legs went totally numb.

Now I have drugs and things are much better.

I believe ya - like, I've also known couple of people that had Fibromyalgia, which gets attributed too quickly to biological/infective causes while some people consider it the XXIst century hysteria (conversion). I've also lost count to how many times after a psychotherapeutic intervention the given person gets flu, diarrhea or some kind of physical unwellness.

Oh and to be clear: because I actually know about conversion disorder and such, I donít get all ďNO IM NOT CRAZYĒ about it. Itís more of a ďHm, could be. Do you think itís more or less likely than something actually being there? Best guess.Ē

Tonightís lady paused and you could see gears turning, hesitation, then... ďLike I said, if itís not gone tomorrow, or if it gets worse, go to the ER.Ē

If someone is willing to buy psychosomatic symptoms and you think thatís most likely the issue, the only reason I can see not to say as much is no confidence in your own reading of whatís in front of you.

Yeah, it's a very difficult topic to approach reasonably, be it on the practitioners side or the patients side, like it either gets exxagerated or downplayed but not approached reasonably... like practitioners are either "You have nothing real and physical, pls stop simulating and wasting our time" or "EVERYTHING is in your mind, go to counseling and your Ebola will be cured"... and on patients side they can get really set in hypochondriac mode and rage at anyone that would suggest it could be due to psychic etiology.

Personally, the scariest part of psychosomatic issues, is that they're psychosomatic until they aren't... you get a symbolically constructed and psychically originated "nervous cough" for long enough, and 10 years later they die of throat cancer, due to the abnormal stress on said body part regardless of where its originating from.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 03, 2019, 02:34:18 am
In my case, I am normally like the anti-hypochondriac. ďItís either my damage or my weird ass chronic shit, itíll go away or it will kill me, there is work to be done.Ē Nausea, sneezing? ďCold or flu, doesnít matter, I have dealt with worse.Ē

Fever, serious pain, neurological symptoms, and visible changes in the skin are the exceptions. Any of these are the drop-and-run. (Fever only because if /I/ can clearly sense it, itís probably too late.) I had everything BUT pain with this, so it was definitely a ďfucking out of hereĒ moment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 03:03:12 pm
So, my latest FB jail sentence ends tomorrow.  30 days of breakin' rocks for The Man, and I have learned NOTHING.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 04, 2019, 03:57:22 pm
Just wait until they have your computer mining Libracoin for them.

Of course, I'm just being silly here. They'll probably add a secret program to run in the background every time you log into Facebook and have everyone's phones and machines mining Libracoin for them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 04:00:59 pm
Just wait until they have your computer mining Libracoin for them.

Of course, I'm just being silly here. They'll probably add a secret program to run in the background every time you log into Facebook and have everyone's phones and machines mining Libracoin for them.

I am proud to be part of that effort.

But WTF is Libracoin?  I mean, I know it's some bullshit fake currency, but that name is a little odd.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 04, 2019, 04:02:10 pm
It comes with connotations I would rather not have associated with Zuckerberg, definitely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 04, 2019, 04:16:25 pm
It is their attempt to divert power away from sovereign states and render countries and national government secondary to corperations.
So nothing they weren't doing before.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 04, 2019, 04:19:33 pm
FREEDOM COINS


call it what it is


ZUCK BUCKS
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 04, 2019, 04:29:16 pm
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 04:31:54 pm
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.

This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 04, 2019, 04:35:20 pm
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.

This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way.   :lulz:
IIRC you wrote a rant about how bank of America tried to introduce its own currency to rival the dollar and had their butts shut down, printing presses smashed by the gov? I'm hoping facebook bring that on themselves.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2019, 04:42:39 pm
It'll turn Facebook into the world's largest investment bank.

This is going to fail in a truly spectacular way.   :lulz:
IIRC you wrote a rant about how bank of America tried to introduce its own currency to rival the dollar and had their butts shut down, printing presses smashed by the gov? I'm hoping facebook bring that on themselves.

I don't remember that.

But I will say that even if the government doesn't get involved, this will fail like a CHAMPION, right out of the gate.  And that's BEFORE someone gets caught with their hand in the till.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 04, 2019, 07:25:00 pm
FREEDOM COINS


call it what it is


ZUCK BUCKS

If I'm correct, it's more like "JUSTICE coins".

Libra is like the zodiac sign, a weight measurer, which symbolizes the rule of law and justice, while Liber is more related to freedoms.

:flyes away:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 04, 2019, 08:34:50 pm
thank you for that!

and  :lol:, nothing says law and order like an economy-destabilizing cryptocurrency
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 05, 2019, 04:17:03 am
They don't want law and order. They want corprate feudalism.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 05, 2019, 09:24:20 pm
They don't want law and order. They want corprate feudalism.

Well THAT doesn't have latin roots and lacks certain ring to it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 05, 2019, 10:56:48 pm
Fiefcoin.

Hmm.

No, youíre right, thereís the wrong sort of odor to it.

Vassalcoin? Better, better.

Serfcoin?

Thatís the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 05, 2019, 11:49:11 pm
Fiefcoin.

Hmm.

No, youíre right, thereís the wrong sort of odor to it.

Vassalcoin? Better, better.

Serfcoin?

Thatís the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.

Alright alright, Serfcoin sounds very on with the times.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 12:03:26 am
Speaking of cryptocurrencies, I'm being "blackmailed", with payment due via bitcoin.  I was toying with the idea of doing something obnoxious, like sending the spammer $1, broken into tens of thousands of payments, each a fraction of a penny, but alas!  My brief research into the subject shows that bitcoin doesn't work that way.  You essentially need to offer a bribe ("indeterminate transaction fee") to get the system to handle your payment, and even then it can take hours (or days) for it to be processed.

As awkward and arbitrary as it appears, I'm surprised the bitcoin bubble has grown as big as it has.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 12:23:18 am
True Believers and technobabble.

Itís a classic snake oil con, except financial instead of medical. You have people who went full sunk cost fallacy, people who recognized they could fleece the masses for fun and profit, and a few people who actually made some actual, legitimate bucks off of the booms and busts.

They all tell everyone else how it works and how awesome it is. They use specialized terminology because thereís nothing else to distinguish it from watermarked Monopoly money. No one understands what it means, but these people seem to know what theyíre talking about and theyíre rich now! Or they would have been except they missed a price spike, but I wonít do that! Iím smarter! Right?

Creating more aspiring con artists who see through the veil (or independently reconstruct how to grift people with it), more people who get some marginal gains off of sheer luck, and more people who put all their everything into it and can now NEVER go back.

And these people all tell everyone else how it... etc.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 12:39:30 am
True Believers and technobabble.

Itís a classic snake oil con, except financial instead of medical. You have people who went full sunk cost fallacy, people who recognized they could fleece the masses for fun and profit, and a few people who actually made some actual, legitimate bucks off of the booms and busts.

They all tell everyone else how it works and how awesome it is. They use specialized terminology because thereís nothing else to distinguish it from watermarked Monopoly money. No one understands what it means, but these people seem to know what theyíre talking about and theyíre rich now! Or they would have been except they missed a price spike, but I wonít do that! Iím smarter! Right?

Creating more aspiring con artists who see through the veil (or independently reconstruct how to grift people with it), more people who get some marginal gains off of sheer luck, and more people who put all their everything into it and can now NEVER go back.

And these people all tell everyone else how it... etc.

Read my book on how to accomplish your media-imposed goals!!!:

"How to be a model": work out the equivalent of a full-time job OR the magical answer, have good genetics.

"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 12:58:13 am
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point.  If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.

I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 01:00:27 am
"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
"It is vastly easier to turn one million dollars into two million dollars than it is to turn one dollar into two dollars."
  (Not original with me, but I can't remember the source.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 02:02:50 am
"How to make good profit": have a couple millions of disposable capital, invest it randomly and the right place and right time and pray to the gods of RNG OR the magical answer, deliberately create and manipulate stock bubbles so when they implode you benefit from it.
"It is vastly easier to turn one million dollars into two million dollars than it is to turn one dollar into two dollars."
  (Not original with me, but I can't remember the source.)

It might as well been Karl Marx, theory of capital and investment and all that  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 06, 2019, 02:30:59 am
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on December 06, 2019, 03:11:05 am
Fiefcoin.

Hmm.

No, youíre right, thereís the wrong sort of odor to it.

Vassalcoin? Better, better.

Serfcoin?

Thatís the stuff. Yes. Starting a pention immediately.

Plebcoin.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 04:42:53 am
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point.  If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.

I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.

It wonít. Crypto is the new MLM.

In fact, many of the high profile crypto people are turning out to come from the shadier, more fucked up side of MLM. Read a news article about Quadriga the other day, it was hilarious and alarming.

ďYou have a man convicted of running a Ponzi scheme in charge of banking your bitcoin. Heís the only accredited bitcoin banker in Canada. Then he literally fakes his death and runs off with all your money.Ē

This is real life. This really happened.

Crypto is here to stay as a miserable fringe thing till the end of fucking time. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 04:54:40 am
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.

On a brighter note:

Did you know you can just send a box of flies to someone? Like live flies in a box. You can literally just fill a box with flies. And mail it to someone.

This is legal. Itís also surprisingly cheap, and while flies donít live long, youíre looking at 12 to 14 dollars to priority mail this sucker to your ďpalĒ across the country, plenty of time for them to burst out of the box like a cloud of anxiety and carpet the room in buzzing hairy insects.

Other completely legal things to send: Pizza, half eaten. Urine. 10000 pieces of cardboard carefully snipped out in the shape of microSD cards, painted appropriately, and with foil taped to them as ďcontactsĒ. Preserved goat parts. Human remains (seriously). Letters addressed to nonexistent individuals (make sure there is a good reason for your target to not return to sender). Centipedes, the normal sized kind. Centipedes, the scary sized kind.

There is a very short list of what you cannot send in the mail, and it is not vague at /all/. I have had plans to make use of this information for awhile but can find neither the time nor the effort.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 06, 2019, 05:27:25 am
I knew you could mail ladybugs but not the rest of that. Hmm
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 05:59:59 am
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.

On a brighter note:

Did you know you can just send a box of flies to someone? Like live flies in a box. You can literally just fill a box with flies. And mail it to someone.

This is legal. Itís also surprisingly cheap, and while flies donít live long, youíre looking at 12 to 14 dollars to priority mail this sucker to your ďpalĒ across the country, plenty of time for them to burst out of the box like a cloud of anxiety and carpet the room in buzzing hairy insects.

Other completely legal things to send: Pizza, half eaten. Urine. 10000 pieces of cardboard carefully snipped out in the shape of microSD cards, painted appropriately, and with foil taped to them as ďcontactsĒ. Preserved goat parts. Human remains (seriously). Letters addressed to nonexistent individuals (make sure there is a good reason for your target to not return to sender). Centipedes, the normal sized kind. Centipedes, the scary sized kind.

There is a very short list of what you cannot send in the mail, and it is not vague at /all/. I have had plans to make use of this information for awhile but can find neither the time nor the effort.

And you didnt even mention the worst thing to send right after Ant-hrax...

A box with a spring mechanism full of GLITTER.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2019, 12:33:34 pm
For the more religiously conservative, you can also get Koran's delivered. For free.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 06, 2019, 12:47:03 pm
Much like the value of currency, I suspect the underpinning of cyrptocurrencies is people's faith in them.

And if that's true, then maybe what crypto represents is that anything can be regarded as money as long as its predicated on something incomprehensible



Which is why I'm developing a currency based on republican impeachment defense
:rimshot:



I'll be here all night, folks.
Thank you. Thank you.  You're too kind.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2019, 01:29:12 pm
The other trick is to artifically limit them, so percieved value is built-in, regardless of how much that value actually relates to material worth.

It's like stamp collecting, only they're not legal stamps.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 06, 2019, 01:39:56 pm
and that's how the economy of the 2020s became based on Yu-Gi-Oh cards
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2019, 01:42:44 pm
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.

Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.

This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 01:49:42 pm
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.

:lol:

I remember mailing Richter an anvil.  "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 06, 2019, 01:52:26 pm
Much like the value of currency, I suspect the underpinning of cyrptocurrencies is people's faith in them.
The value of conventional currency isn't entirely based on faith, though.  There's also the fact that your government requires taxes to be paid in that currency, and the government controls the guys with the tanks and guns.

The bitcoin guys can't afford an army; all their capital is tied up in mining rigs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2019, 02:07:39 pm
Please don't give Facebook more ideas.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 06, 2019, 05:49:40 pm
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.

:lol:

I remember mailing Richter an anvil.  "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Lmao, Jesus fuck, I bet he was confused
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 06:13:56 pm
:lulz: I paid a company a month ago to mail my best friend a potato and it arrived yesterday. His confusion is worth every penny.

:lol:

I remember mailing Richter an anvil.  "If it fits, it ships, eh? Choke on this, you bastards!"
Lmao, Jesus fuck, I bet he was confused

It was Richter.  He just started hammering away.  He is a simple man, and does not question WHY he has an anvil, just who he can throw it at.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 06:25:01 pm
I want an anvil too.

After I have a permanent address, of course.

I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 06:30:03 pm
I want an anvil too.

After I have a permanent address, of course.

I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.

I am already a tool AND a Doktor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 07:17:51 pm
I want an anvil too.

After I have a permanent address, of course.

I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.

I am already a tool AND a Doktor.

But do you have a menacing widget that looks like a Victorian surgical device, an Elizabethan torture device, and an H R Giger sculpture all at the SAME TIME? Can you BRANDISH IT at the small beasts you are furious with?

This is why I need an anvil one day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 07:33:52 pm
I want an anvil too.

After I have a permanent address, of course.

I will make you a tool fit for a Doktor.

I am already a tool AND a Doktor.

But do you have a menacing widget that looks like a Victorian surgical device, an Elizabethan torture device, and an H R Giger sculpture all at the SAME TIME? Can you BRANDISH IT at the small beasts you are furious with?

This is why I need an anvil one day.

You do.  I am out.

The closest thing I had to what you describe was the infamous "pink glove," which involved a toilet plunger and an apple corer.  It was one of Suu's more deranged ideas.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 06, 2019, 07:58:14 pm
(https://cdn3.volusion.com/nqpvm.detql/v/vspfiles/photos/CDXPH-2-2T.jpg)

I have ideas already.

I wonder if I can manage a few days off and access to a forge?

I wonder how hard it is to take those little screwdriver heads and attach them to fake (or real, depending) teeth?

I wonder if I can make it crack an egg and hork it out of its gaping maw?

Such possibilities.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 06, 2019, 09:07:27 pm
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.

Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.

This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.

We could also value digital currency based on GPUs, which is what's used to make them.

It's all a scam by Nvidia, AMD and pyramid-schemers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on December 06, 2019, 10:31:27 pm
I'm just waiting for all my old Camel Bucks to mature so I can cash them out and retire in luxury.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 07, 2019, 06:19:59 pm
I said this

At work

In a chat medium

There are logs

“HAHAHA nothing but fun! Right into the abyss!”

“This whole crm is teetering on the verge of legal action, all it takes is a couple dozen incompetents shitting the bed all at once. If that seems unlikely to you, look at [outsourced CS company]”

“I need to overdose on nicotine because if it doesn’t kill me this goddamn backwards implementation will surgically remove my deep fried neocortex to use as a basketball”

ETA: “these emails are like the boulder of Sisyphus: I can handle this! I can get this up the hill! This time I win! Then the giggling psychotic demon named [outsourced CS company] answers an email they shouldn’t have and down it all goes, crushing me flat into the earth beneath it, and the cycle continues”

“I need a smoke break before I spontaneously combust and rocket through the 9th floor like a pressurized gas canister”
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 07, 2019, 07:54:32 pm
ETA: ďthese emails are like the boulder of Sisyphus: I can handle this! I can get this up the hill! This time I win! Then the giggling psychotic demon named [outsourced CS company] answers an email they shouldnít have and down it all goes, crushing me flat into the earth beneath it, and the cycle continuesĒ
You can get away with quite a lot if you're competent, you don't make too many of the wrong people angry, and you're weird enough that people don't know quite how to handle you.

Anyway, I was exposed to potentially dangerous levels of Christmas music today, so I've got that "insatiable urge to kill" thing going again.  If any pinealistic noobs show up in the next few days, would anyone mind if I chew on them a bit?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 07, 2019, 08:11:29 pm
Iím more than competent. Iím the go-to for weird technical minutiae. I handle customers who have been mishandled and abused by incompetent fuckwits and I have them apologizing to us for their understandable frustration.

I can turn a giant turd into a fucking SELLING POINT, and I donít even do it to sell shit.

Iím not tooting my own horn, Iím repeating what others tell me. Iím not on the same page, I feel like a cheap plastic shopping bag attempting to hold back a mob equipped with torches and pitchforks, but itís probably a point in my favor that the entire chain of command until the 9th floor is on my side.

But just like everywhere else, once management leaves the front lines theyíre incompetent as fuck and canít understand why everyoneís having so much trouble using their worthless backwards piece of shit dysfunctional garbage chute of a system to handle shit better suited to someone with a pipe wrench and a GRIN.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on December 08, 2019, 12:56:42 am
I have a notion of how the bitcoin bubble formed, I just find it absurd that it's kept going to this point.  If it takes more than a few seconds for your system to process a basic transaction, you've gone past the point where it has practical value, and something is very, very wrong.

I wonder how much hotter the water will get before the frog jumps out of the pot.

This is part of why there are now a ton of different cryptos, a lot of the ones which are not bitcoin still process transactions in a few seconds for a few fractions of a penny in value.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on December 08, 2019, 12:59:07 am
It's a new paradigm, and everybody who doesn't buy, now, will be priced out forever. Anybody who does buy will be rewarded with a lifetime of riches, as their Yu-Gi-Oh cards will continue its 30% yearly price increase.

Renters, and anybody born in a future generation, will not be able to afford a $15,000,000 starter Yu-Gi-Oh card pack in 15 years. They will live in tent cities, and Hondas.

This asset bubble is different than all of the others - it will never slow down, or pop. The gains are permanent.

A lot of folks know it's a bubble, but they also know that, unlike that other sucker, they are going to get out of the bubble at the top.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 08, 2019, 07:02:35 pm
The friend I sent the potato to: I still can't believe it wasn't you.

Me, fortunately in another room: I wish it had been me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 09, 2019, 12:38:22 am
I may have a new job lined up. Awaiting details now.

If I do, itís IT and not customer facing THANK GOD PRAISE BE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on December 09, 2019, 01:45:20 am
Old people I like need to stop dying today damnit.  Old people I don't like can continue to do so, and they better.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on December 09, 2019, 07:13:32 am
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Old people I like need to stop dying today damnit.  Old people I don't like can continue to do so, and they better.
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Try connecting their hearts to world nuclear arsenal in a way that the moment they stop it's boomtime. Be very public about this and medical researchers around the world will work their asses off to provide immortality to your loved ones.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 10, 2019, 11:02:30 am
Re-watching Aeon Flux from the talking episode (7 onwards), love how each episode was an exploration of some concept and discarded the episodes or story telling before it. MTV used to do fantastic TV.
https://www.wcostream.com/anime/aeon-flux
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 10, 2019, 12:53:15 pm
Now knowing that Aeon Flux is an exploration of gnostic myth, I felt like I should revisit it -- watched a handful of episodes a few years ago and just cringed the whole time. It didn't land for me. Are you saying some parts are better than others? I watched a few of the short non-talky ones, and then the one with the Demiurge... didn't really sift anything from it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 10, 2019, 01:11:48 pm
MTV used to do fantastic TV.
I thought "The Maxx" was brilliant.

The sounds in my head have started again.  Good.
...
Someone coming.  Someone dangerous.  I can smell the sweating leather and peppermint.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 10, 2019, 05:29:42 pm
Now knowing that Aeon Flux is an exploration of gnostic myth, I felt like I should revisit it -- watched a handful of episodes a few years ago and just cringed the whole time. It didn't land for me. Are you saying some parts are better than others? I watched a few of the short non-talky ones, and then the one with the Demiurge... didn't really sift anything from it.

The demiurge uses the literal Gnostic imagry but hasn't much in the way of referencing gnosticism, it's more a parable on faith in general:
In some cases leading to a manic desire to feel that connection that leaves the people feeling empty and unfulfilled  (hence why Aeon wants to blast it as it represents a controlling force over individuality), and Trevor wants it (as a unifying symbol of control), it was a weird theme, that everyone being in a shared connection could 1: be more depressed, 2: that the shared connection could be a force of oppression.

Every episode deals with a different theme entirely but always in the balance of order or control, and the weird BDSM power play between Trevor and Aeon is a manifestation of that.
My favorites are a last time for everything: A cloning episode more to do with identity and feeling comfortable with a partner when the risk of missing out on a free individualistic life is taken away.
ReErasure, about a bliss drug that causes memory loss, with themes of longing and regret.
The purge: Individuality and control (would it be ethical if the state could change a person to want to be good (as the state views it), which uses weird themes for law and order such as a tv audience as a loose stand in for a court

It is punk, it is style over substance, uncomfortably filthy (but never attractive or for the viewers enjoyment which I think is a good distinction), pretentious at times, but it is a bunch of 15 minute epsiodes that goes through a roller coaster of themes and discards them after each. I'd say give it another chance, especially if you only ever watched the shorts and the Demiurge, because the rest of the Talkie episodes are only like an hour or so more. There's episodes I really dislike but I enjoy the ideas they plant.

And yeah, The Maxx is the perfect companion for this, for the same kind of metaphor over literal story telling. Mr Gone was fantastic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 10, 2019, 06:58:35 pm
It can be anything it wants. 


Except watchable.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 10, 2019, 07:18:34 pm
Thems fightin words! Wait a minute,  you dont like blade runner either, I dont think we are going to agree on this
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on December 10, 2019, 07:59:24 pm
Then there was "The Real World."

It was a story about a tv show that went on to infect every channel on cable, even the educational ones, especially the educational ones, and then went on to infect the federal government of the United States.

Will it rise to the status of Extinction Level Event? Stay tuned to find out!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 10, 2019, 08:01:13 pm
I try not to watch too much of "The real world", there's too many conflicting interpretations and all of them depressing
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on December 10, 2019, 08:08:34 pm
It's not much of a first-person RPG, either.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 12, 2019, 02:33:05 am
IT BEGINS

I HAVE THE POWER AND THEY COME TO ME

AHAHAHAHA

 :magick:

(With thanks to QGP, whose fault this all is)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 12, 2019, 02:40:22 am
IT job came through, I take it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 12, 2019, 03:32:01 am
Not for a fucking second, no.

However, I now have people who want to be MY roommate. In fact, I have CHOICES. In fact, I Am In Control.

Just goes to show you that sometimes the best answer to how to get through a door is simply ďBe On The Other SideĒ.

Thatís not a koan.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 12, 2019, 09:53:03 pm
Itís that time!!!

Getting a shower and then itís off to see THIS SHIT LIVE

https://elizabethcolourwheel.bandcamp.com/

https://streetsects.bandcamp.com/

If you like sappy 90s goth rock and a bit of doom metal check out Elizabeth Colour Wheel, if you like running power drills being thrown into a trash compactor while a madman freaks the fuck out on top of it all then check out Street Sects

What a fucking concert this will be
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 13, 2019, 05:21:23 am
Update:

I feel like a piece of deli meat and Street Sects isnít talking stupid bullshit re: homelessness gentrification and the American underclass


Vocalist is in my corner, said I should hit him up if I ever need help

My lungs feel punctured and my limbs feel like tooth picks being used to pick up a large chicken carcass

Fuck yes
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2019, 03:12:15 pm
Thems fightin words! Wait a minute,  you dont like blade runner either, I dont think we are going to agree on this

Also, Dune is best used as a doorstop.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2019, 03:13:24 pm
Update:

I feel like a piece of deli meat and Street Sects isnít talking stupid bullshit re: homelessness gentrification and the American underclass


Vocalist is in my corner, said I should hit him up if I ever need help

My lungs feel punctured and my limbs feel like tooth picks being used to pick up a large chicken carcass

Fuck yes

THERE AIN'T NO REST FOR THE WICKED
MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES

 :jihaad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 13, 2019, 03:21:35 pm
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.

But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???

and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.

Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2019, 04:01:12 pm
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.

But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???

and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.

Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so

I recommend the "Safehold" series by David Weber.  Despite the fact that it is a bag of used tropes, it is a riveting story that ALSO has those "WTF" moments.

And you get them without Frank Herbert pooping on them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 13, 2019, 04:25:17 pm
The Malazan books say "hold my beer".

Toll the Hounds has the greatest final 100 page rollercoaster in any fiction out there. Full stop. Once you hit that final stretch you cannot stop reading. But the entire series is full of very exquisite twists in narrative and direction that would make any sensible person go "wtf".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 13, 2019, 04:48:18 pm
Against the advice of others, I'm on Book 3 of the Dune series. Yeah, the prose is terrible and the dialogue reads like a mashup of the bible and a philosophy lecture.

But it does stimulate my imagination like few books have -- every 100 pages or so, I have to put the book down, stare at the ceiling, and go WHAT. WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ. WHAT???

and that's kind of amazing -- very few books I've read in the last 5 years have that kind of WTF factor.

Though worth nothing -- Philip K Dick books like Ubik have that effect on me every 25 pages or so
Three is the last one before the narrative gets really weird. God Emperor, the next one was my favorite one.  However I have not read that since I was sixteen so take that with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2019, 04:51:14 pm
These are a few of my favorite things.  :lol:

http://www.openthefuture.com/2006/12/an_eschatological_taxonomy.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 13, 2019, 07:22:31 pm
These are a few of my favorite things.  :lol:

http://www.openthefuture.com/2006/12/an_eschatological_taxonomy.html

Yeah, definitely something nifty there, no doubt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 14, 2019, 12:23:55 am
Hey guys, checking in after a while. Most notable thing that happened was that I broke up with that woman i was dating. Turns out that getting into a relationship 2 months after shed gotten out of her previous and quite traumatizing relationship was way too soon, so we mutually broke up. Rather amicably actually. Were still friends and still talk about Steven Universe together, so that's nice.

whats been more stressful lately is grinding to make bills and in general wondering what i'm doing with my life, as i'm looking down the barrel of turning 30 next year. I've decided that while I haven't given up on trying to get into the entertainment industry, I should try to get into one of the trades so i can work within that industry and still have a decent job to fall back on if that doesn't pan out. Looking at welding or electrician programs atm, and considering going back to school.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2019, 03:58:01 am
Hey guys, checking in after a while. Most notable thing that happened was that I broke up with that woman i was dating. Turns out that getting into a relationship 2 months after shed gotten out of her previous and quite traumatizing relationship was way too soon, so we mutually broke up. Rather amicably actually. Were still friends and still talk about Steven Universe together, so that's nice.

whats been more stressful lately is grinding to make bills and in general wondering what i'm doing with my life, as i'm looking down the barrel of turning 30 next year. I've decided that while I haven't given up on trying to get into the entertainment industry, I should try to get into one of the trades so i can work within that industry and still have a decent job to fall back on if that doesn't pan out. Looking at welding or electrician programs atm, and considering going back to school.

I was just getting started at 30.  You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 14, 2019, 06:23:21 pm
thanks, Dok. :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 15, 2019, 12:56:31 am
I think this is the first night Iíve had with no bad news, where Iíve had the energy and opportunity to enjoy myself?

I started the day by meeting an awesome lady and buying pastries. I dropped 4 of those off with QGP. Then I went to kill some time at a bar and grill, drank DELICIOUS beer and ate DELICIOUS food, aiming for a second meeting today. Fell through, which was fine by me as I had a guilt-free AMAZING dinner.

I walked to the bus in the perfect weather for me (QGP calls it ďsnail weatherĒ) and helped a lady with a dead phone, a deadline, and no hope by giving her a spare lightning cable I had from my concert night.

Iím feeling fucking good. This is going to be one of those nights I sleep like a baby and have good dreams. If my life was all these kind of days, Iíd have no frustrations or anxiety.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 15, 2019, 01:38:50 am
On further reflection this is probably the first time Iíve been feeling this good with no outside intervention.

No one made today happen. I own this awesome shit. I did this for myself. No one stuck their head in to help. No one stepped out of their way and said ďlet me helpĒ or ďIím paying.Ē I did this. I did all of this. No one else can lay claim to one moment of it.

I did this.

Which means I can do it again. And again.

Which means I can save it up and do BETTER.

Thatís a fucking incredibly good feeling. Being able to take full credit for your own awesome day. Goddamn.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on December 15, 2019, 04:59:06 pm
The Malazan books say "hold my beer".

Toll the Hounds has the greatest final 100 page rollercoaster in any fiction out there. Full stop. Once you hit that final stretch you cannot stop reading. But the entire series is full of very exquisite twists in narrative and direction that would make any sensible person go "wtf".

I hated Gardens of the Moons so didn't go further.

But I can still remember scenes of the book very clearly, so it was on to something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2019, 05:24:53 pm
Quote

I hated Gardens of the Moons so didn't go further.

But I can still remember scenes of the book very clearly, so it was on to something.

Definitely the worst book in the series. There was a 10 year gap between the first and second one, and it shows in the quality of the writing. Still throws you in at the deep end with nary a frame of reference though. Different continent, different army...some of the same characters, but not many.

But the Chain of Dogs, which makes up a large portion the second book...that's a mini-rollercoaster all on its own. How do you defend a city's worth of refugees when crossing a continent for the only safe port still left standing? Why does Apsalar have memories of the early days of the Malazan command? Why are the rebels so convinced Aren will fall? Why did Korbolo Dom turn traitor and will Kalam succeed in his mission to kill Laseen? Every single one of those things throws a spanner in everything that was previously established and then some. And spanners will inevitably be thrown into those events in subsequent books.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2019, 06:02:22 pm
It seems our spambots have learned a new trick. They're using gmail accounts, but breaking up the account name with an implausible number of full stops, so it'd read something like Th.e.goodr.ever.en.drog.er@gmail.com

Presumably this is to make it harder to search them via Google for proof of their spamminess. But when seven all sign up in a few minutes of each other...it does kinda give the game away.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 15, 2019, 06:48:53 pm
Damnit, foiled again!

Iíll have to figure out a new solution. Maybe pick the top 20 most common English language names, a list of common adjectives,  and a list of pop culture references, and create gmail accounts with the format:

(adjective)(name/pop culture ref)(optionally 2 random numbers or 4 numbers beginning in 19)@gmail.com

You know, like 80% of the English speaking world does already.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 15, 2019, 09:01:13 pm

Machine-learning bots?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 15, 2019, 11:47:25 pm

Machine-learning bots?
Yeah, they have broken the google captcha which is irritating as that has worked for years.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 16, 2019, 04:59:55 pm
On further reflection this is probably the first time Iíve been feeling this good with no outside intervention.

No one made today happen. I own this awesome shit. I did this for myself. No one stuck their head in to help. No one stepped out of their way and said ďlet me helpĒ or ďIím paying.Ē I did this. I did all of this. No one else can lay claim to one moment of it.

I did this.

Which means I can do it again. And again.

Which means I can save it up and do BETTER.

Thatís a fucking incredibly good feeling. Being able to take full credit for your own awesome day. Goddamn.

Rock on, Null!

 :canuck:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 18, 2019, 12:18:30 am
Welp. I fractured a molar cusp a while back. Missed the nerve, thankfully, but I'm potentially looking down the barrel of a $770 dental bill on Friday - possible root canal plus the temporary crown. And then the regular crown next year, probably, and my deductible starts over so that'll be almost entirely out of pocket on a paycheck where I only got three weeks of pay. More than usual bc long term subbing pays a bit more but still.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 18, 2019, 10:41:28 pm
The waiting room has a horde of zombie Russians in it.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 18, 2019, 11:42:05 pm
The last week has felt like a siege. I haven't gotten the stopforumspam api integrated yet but I was playing with it yesterday, the plugin for smf stopped being updated like five years ago so it takes a bit of tweaking to get going with the forum.
If that doesn't work then it will need to be an extra step (text message or something), to lock it down.

Sorry I know the bar isn't the place to talk about the horrors in the kitchen.

I may be in Houston next year for a few days for work but no idea when. I came second in a blood bowl league after spending 15 years avoiding games workshop stuff. I love my orcs now. I've had three sinus infections in a row all needing anti-biotics and my throat is on fire right now (I'm a crock). Herself is getting on well with the pregnancy, and we had the scan yesterday and all looks well, not going to find out the sex until the baby is born.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on December 19, 2019, 01:39:14 am
I know nothing about forum tech, but is it possible to redirect them to another forum? Preferably one you are not fond of.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 19, 2019, 02:28:52 am
I know nothing about forum tech, but is it possible to redirect them to another forum? Preferably one you are not fond of.

The other forum is already full of them, too.  There is no law of conservation when it comes to spammers.  Like a noisome and noxious fart, they expand to fill the space available.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 19, 2019, 04:09:16 am
The last week has felt like a siege. I haven't gotten the stopforumspam api integrated yet but I was playing with it yesterday, the plugin for smf stopped being updated like five years ago so it takes a bit of tweaking to get going with the forum.
If that doesn't work then it will need to be an extra step (text message or something), to lock it down.

Sorry I know the bar isn't the place to talk about the horrors in the kitchen.

I may be in Houston next year for a few days for work but no idea when. I came second in a blood bowl league after spending 15 years avoiding games workshop stuff. I love my orcs now. I've had three sinus infections in a row all needing anti-biotics and my throat is on fire right now (I'm a crock). Herself is getting on well with the pregnancy, and we had the scan yesterday and all looks well, not going to find out the sex until the baby is born.

Houston is a neat town, but for God's sake, if you weren't born there, don't try to drive there.  Use an Uber.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 19, 2019, 04:10:34 am
Oh, and don't worry about the bots.  It's actually getting kind of funny, and you can spot them 100% of the time now, due to the stops and periods they put in the names to get past the gmail anti-spam.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 19, 2019, 05:28:05 am
Yeah it seems to be mostly those ones these days. The ones from random-ass sites seem to have stopped almost entirely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 19, 2019, 02:36:48 pm
I only mentioned them because the bodies were piling up and I can't delete them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 19, 2019, 02:38:23 pm
I'm just banning them. Otherwise they'll no doubt come back in a couple of days and try to sign up again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 19, 2019, 03:02:38 pm
Same I am not deleting them, I'm banning them so a record is created, that's why they switched to the letter thing, I'd say we have banned most of eastern europes email hosts at this stage. I can patch it to remove the dots as they are ignored (gmail you can log in as Mike.Harlem@ or Mi.KeHarlem etc) and that should clear out this latest swath of Walkers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 20, 2019, 03:53:19 am
https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q2ry3wlGMp1wm4zq5.mp4

This video struck four people dead. I was one of them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 20, 2019, 07:02:56 am
https://ve.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q2ry3wlGMp1wm4zq5.mp4

This video struck four people dead. I was one of them.

That fucking cockatoo is 2020 coming right at our faces.  :fnord:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 20, 2019, 08:47:23 am
That is a powerful familiar
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2019, 01:48:40 pm
Merry Christmas, fuckos.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2019, 01:52:13 pm
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.

I gotta ask:  What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 23, 2019, 02:21:08 pm
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.

I gotta ask:  What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
A couple days ago, I went into a store to buy some new gloves.  Not only were they playing Christmas music, but it was country Christmas music. 

And they didn't have gloves in my size.

So I burned the store down.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2019, 02:30:06 pm
I got bushwhacked at 4:30 AM with that Goddamn little drummer boy song on the way in to work.

I gotta ask:  What kind of Goddamn psychotic plays drums next to an infant anyway?
A couple days ago, I went into a store to buy some new gloves.  Not only were they playing Christmas music, but it was country Christmas music. 

And they didn't have gloves in my size.

So I burned the store down.

I would vote to acquit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 24, 2019, 04:28:51 pm
I think the Null appellation online is reaching EOL for real world reasons.

I have a desire for a new title but have yet to find it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 24, 2019, 11:02:59 pm
Null is retired

Alter is the new hotness
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 25, 2019, 12:12:07 am
Hey there newbie
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 25, 2019, 01:04:19 am
Null is retired

Alter is the new hotness

Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 25, 2019, 01:14:00 am
Did not even think of any of that, but it was nothing to do with my decision.


Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. It’s a good, meaningful title.

Then there was the catalyst: Control. That damn game has Altered Items (uncontrollable objects of horror and power) and it stuck in my head, and it just happened to fit too well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on December 25, 2019, 01:49:18 am
Null is retired

Alter is the new hotness

Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.

Mine too, I remember vauge horrible nonsense but it's all generally blurred with the current ongoing horrible times everywhere.

I'm pretty sure it's alaskas problem either way which just demonstrates there's no escape from this shit. Rwhn is probably in a yurt somewhere ready to dispense pamphlets and bad tailoring advice to seekers in the Mongolian desert. Randpaul is in an antarctic research base. And so on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on December 25, 2019, 01:52:29 am
Same I am not deleting them, I'm banning them so a record is created, that's why they switched to the letter thing, I'd say we have banned most of eastern europes email hosts at this stage. I can patch it to remove the dots as they are ignored (gmail you can log in as Mike.Harlem@ or Mi.KeHarlem etc) and that should clear out this latest swath of Walkers.

Could you possibly let one in for a few hours? Assuming it's not dick pills I'm kind of curious what's being pushed so hard. Cain, deflection from crimean bridge or?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on December 25, 2019, 02:58:06 am
Null is retired

Alter is the new hotness

Got some weird flashbacks to a user named Alty, good thing my memory is bad.

Mine too, I remember vauge horrible nonsense but it's all generally blurred with the current ongoing horrible times everywhere.

I'm pretty sure it's alaskas problem either way which just demonstrates there's no escape from this shit. Rwhn is probably in a yurt somewhere ready to dispense pamphlets and bad tailoring advice to seekers in the Mongolian desert. Randpaul is in an antarctic research base. And so on.

Id rather imagine that Carpenter's "The Thing" made its way down to Alaska from Anctartica and infected their brains.

Did not even think of any of that, but it was nothing to do with my decision.

Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. Itís a good, meaningful title.

Then there was the catalyst: Control. That damn game has Altered Items (uncontrollable objects of horror and power) and it stuck in my head, and it just happened to fit too well.

I'm not implying it has anything to do with it, it just triggered a memory of mine. Anyways, I'm glad you feel that way about yourself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 26, 2019, 02:17:38 am
I don't miss Alty one little bit.  He was and is a shitbag.

So I am just fine with Altered.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 26, 2019, 11:50:04 pm
Remember the time we trolled Facebook in about 2011? Turns out that a friend I made this year is one of the people who got sucked into that group back when it was active. :lulz: he was living like 200 miles away at the time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 28, 2019, 07:50:11 pm
Speaking of which, I am in Facebook jail again until 1/27, for taunting hayseed snowflakes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 28, 2019, 08:31:01 pm
What exactly did you do this time?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 28, 2019, 09:49:47 pm
What exactly did you do this time?

Some inbred was being abusive to some lady in Canada.  Standard appeal to ridicule, passive-aggressive threatening shit.

And then you said "Your an idiot."

I jumped and said "*You're.  Goddamn hayseeds."

So snowflake reported me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 28, 2019, 10:48:24 pm
:lulz: that's an interesting reason to temp ban.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2019, 12:08:43 am
:lulz: that's an interesting reason to temp ban.

You have to remember who Zucc is recruiting as moderators.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on December 29, 2019, 04:52:20 am
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2019, 06:04:59 am
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.

Sure.  Now go on there and say "Men are trash."

Your butt will leave skidmarks on your way into your jail cell.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on December 29, 2019, 05:00:44 pm
Oh, I semi regularly report racist/sexist/etc. posts and literally ONCE has something I've reported been removed. I'm well aware of what kind of people they recruit to be mods.

Sure.  Now go on there and say "Men are trash."

Your butt will leave skidmarks on your way into your jail cell.

Their moderation is "engagement" based. In short if they think whatever horrible shit people are spouting will cause more clicks, more responses etc it's ok in their eyes.
If an incel sees "men are trash" they might not click on the website for a couple of days so that is explicitly verboden
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 30, 2019, 06:56:55 am
Soooooooo talk about your eleventh hour saves

I have TWO DAYS before Iím on the street and out of work all at once

Everyone is out of options

There is no hope, and the tracks have run out and I am in free fall and everyone else is like ďif we could help we wouldĒ, literally hundreds of people failing to find answers for me over a six month period

Then my friend Alec steps in and goes ďI GOT THIS, stand backĒ and lays out:

A job
Connections to a place to live, FUNCTIONAL ones
A shower and temporary shit-storage/crash pad
Food costs that make my hideous appetite bearable
THE SOLUTION

All in one go. Like a fucking badass. Just slapping cards down like ďtake your pick buddy I GOT YOU.Ē

And I have money to not only transport my worthless ass and everything I own out to Chicago, but to pay rent for a month no questions asked and STILL eat like a queen. Fuck you reality, itís HANDLED.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 30, 2019, 07:00:43 am
Iím ready to SHIT.

Tomorrow I quit my job I guess! :lulz: Itís gonna be a fucking SOMETHING. I get paid Wednesday EITHER WAY, and the amount is locked in! I cannot lose! Iím going to river dance on the carcass of Fate while gnawing itís legs off and look fabulous doing it, I CANNOT BE FUCKING STOPPED, no one has ever managed it before and Boston sure as fuck wonít be the dingdingding winner of this fucking round
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on December 30, 2019, 01:55:37 pm
Edit:
To be clear, my decision was one part having self-value now (so Null stopped working) and a history of changing who I am (so Alter works). I also have the kind of damage that puts a ton of people in your skull, and have a bad tendency to fight to change the tides. Change of who I am. Alteration of my environment. Alternate selves. Transmutation of shit into gold, when I can. Itís a good, meaningful title.

I dig it. Hi, altered! :wave:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 30, 2019, 05:48:30 pm
I am spoiled for choice.

Last minute. Literal MOMENTS after I tell my supervisor I quit. Three people step forward and offer support and options.

I still am packing my stuff for Chicago because thereís no promise here, but there are solid leads. And my supervisor let me take it back and have some days off instead.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 30, 2019, 06:18:29 pm
I am spoiled for choice.

Last minute. Literal MOMENTS after I tell my supervisor I quit. Three people step forward and offer support and options.

I still am packing my stuff for Chicago because thereís no promise here, but there are solid leads. And my supervisor let me take it back and have some days off instead.

A job that asks you to stay when you quit has some potential for fun.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 30, 2019, 06:27:34 pm
I have that effect on places I work. I do good work. At my best, I do loads of good work.

I quit my first job six months after I got it because I was dissatisfied with my own work performance. They begged me to come back one year later.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 30, 2019, 08:15:40 pm
I have that effect on places I work. I do good work. At my best, I do loads of good work.

I quit my first job six months after I got it because I was dissatisfied with my own work performance. They begged me to come back one year later.

Sounds like you get bored.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on December 30, 2019, 10:53:00 pm
I do get bored. I need a challenge and a goal to keep focused. I hate these shit low level garbage jobs.

The challenge is digging my way out of the cesspool and the goal is one gasp of air.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 31, 2019, 01:59:45 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=iSRTsQbW9qk&time_continue=180
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on December 31, 2019, 03:01:24 pm
No lies detected. And my family want to move back there (admittedly to a part that is never going to catch on fire, but still...)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 01, 2020, 03:19:18 am
HHAHAHAHA

IT LIVES

It feels like a fucking hallucination but thanks to a couple Christmas gift cards and a stupid sale for it, I have one of those insipid console briefcase thingies, and I spent fifty dollars of my own money on it around Christmas.

After some minor hiccups, I finally have my PS4 lodged in it like a bad tooth and ... it works! A year and a half of storage didnít break the console, and for FIFTY DOLLARS having a debatably portable PlayStation 4 and TV is heaven. I know what my Amtrak ride is gonna consist of!

Also I wasnít kidding about it feeling hallucinatory: check this shit out

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/159054473719709696/661736363279777819/IMG_2782.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 01, 2020, 09:59:59 am
Control will definitely help with feeling hallucinatory
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 01, 2020, 10:17:14 pm
Incidentally I am playing it at the moment, it's awesome
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 01, 2020, 10:42:45 pm
I beat it on a friendís PS4 over the course of a work week, and Iím ready to start from scratch on my own PS4.

I could rant for hours about it. Itís as close to a perfect game for me as Iím likely to ever get.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 02, 2020, 04:22:49 am
I hadn't even heard of Control before you mentioned it in the video game thread, but now my interest is piqued.

I guess I haven't talked enough about my taste in video games around here to ask if it's a good recommendation, so:

I mostly play JRPGs.  My experience in the horror genre is largely limited to a few From Software titles (Demon's Souls and Bloodborne* in particular), but I would also be interested if Control was on the weirder side, like Shadow Hearts or Nier.  Basically, if a game can take my brain somewhere it couldn't get on its own, I'm likely to receive it favourably.

*I got to the point where I could quote Micolash verbatim.  Partly because his words resonated, partly because I died a lot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 04:43:52 am
Youíll love it.

I say that without reservation, having played every game you named. (Also, ORIGINAL Nier, not Automata. Nice.)

Itís quite like Bloodborne, Shadow Hearts and Nier (and Iíd add El Shaddai to that list, because homoerotic 3D genre mashed beatemup based on the Books of Enoch is definitely a one-off, which makes me SO SAD) in that it is one of a kind, nothing exists like it, and nothing will ever exist like it again. Things may try, but the magic is FAR too specific to dial in on it without skirting plagiarism.

Youíll love it. No question.

ETA: also, if you donít go apeshit over the Ashtray Maze, you are not actually human. Not fucking joking. Itís so good itís practically a meme anyway, but with your taste in music youíll probably shit yourself in glee.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 02, 2020, 08:34:11 am
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).
I really liked Neir Automata (haven't played the others), I had written it off as creepy fan service because of the character designs but a friend said to try it, and it was one of the best games I played last year, great story great emotional depth and great dystopia, its an excellent game despite the main character appearing like a little girl in a cocktail dress (fucking anime, fucking japan).
I'm going to try out Kojima's deliveroo game next but it doesn't look fun
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 09:01:48 am
Death Stranding is a game I just wonít play. I have too many games to play, and I hate most of them, so Iíve started putting unrealistic and stupid criteria in:

Itís gay, the protagonist is a woman or of ambiguous gender (nb, monster, animal, robot), or I make my own player character.

Interesting fact: once you cut the floating cruft of ďgeneric gruff white dudeĒ games, much of what is left is actually pretty good. And this works almost universally, you just lose out on Resident Evils 4 and 7 and end up with 6 instead. You also lose all of Silent Hill except SH3, which is kind of sucky ... but the alternative is Bulletstorm and Duke Nukem. And Call of Duty. Again.

A friend of mine has a requirement that a game have axes for melee weapons. Another friend requires a child or a friendly animal be part of the marketing material. Same thing there. The concept is just reducing the amount of generic AAA GOTY garbage in your to-play list by identifying traits most of that sort of crud either lack or have, then using that criteria to exclude them.

As such, I will not be delivering boxes across a fucked up wasteland with Norman Reedus.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 02, 2020, 09:36:46 am
If it helps better relate to your interests that's good:
Untitled Goose Game
Hollow knight
Cuphead
Detroit
and Horizon zero dawn
Would all be things I've played last year that fall under that.
As long as the game has a quality, if it does something well, explores an interesting new idea, or just has a good story but is a bit wonky I'll play it.

Your system does have a flaw though if you miss out on Resi 7 and instead get that piece of shit resi 6, and it excludes silent hill 2, which is still the best narrative game, and best horror game of all time and should automatically be on everyone's list regardless of criteria.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 02, 2020, 10:28:47 am
Death Stranding is a game I just wonít play.

[...]

As such, I will not be delivering boxes across a fucked up wasteland with Norman Reedus.

Fucking Jeff Bezo's delivery-slave simulator... I loved "P.T." and im a bit of a Metal Gear fanatic... ive watched the "cinematic movie" playthroughs of all the games at least 3 times and this Death Stranding is so unnecesarily and artificially pretentious to distract people from its shallowness of a AAA game, alongside exploiting "brand-names" such as Reedus, Del Toro and  Mikkelsen for the same purpose.

MAYBE the "transporting-and-terrain micro-mechanics" are enough to make the game entertaining? Cause those do exist and there was work put into them... just the story and themes are so basic is what's making me angry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 02, 2020, 11:02:55 am
I dunno, I've always found the same true of metal gear, they are all gaudy pretentious fetishisation of Americana and western culture, it's part of the charm. Using the celebs though does feel like Kojima is very much a scenester. He is very much in the mind of the overlap between movies and games, but it does highlight, it always feels jarring when they use their actual faces, same with Beyond two souls.

There is an exception: Saints Row, in parodying Mass Effect instead of having Admiral Anderson, you literally get the voice actor Keith David (navigating the ship), and in parodying the "complex" romance system of mass effect, you get a hotkeyed romance button, that Keith David turns you down on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2020, 11:13:07 am
Keith David was definitely the highlight of Saints Row 4.

"I was 12 hours into Dead Island when the Zin attacked. Now I'll never finish. I won't forgive them for that."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on January 02, 2020, 02:33:54 pm
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).

Same, I must have beaten Bloodborne seven times now. (and dark souls 1 probably a dozen times)

Sekiro was great, but I did miss the ability to try on fancy dresses and hats. And the setting/story wasn't anywhere near as rich as any other From soft game. But that gameplay tho!



Control looks cool, but I don't really get into shooters. Like I couldn't even enjoy Bioshock or big chunks of The Last of Us because shooting bad guys with guns just doesn't do it for me (unless it's in 2d).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 02, 2020, 03:09:08 pm
Youíll love it.

I say that without reservation, having played every game you named. (Also, ORIGINAL Nier, not Automata. Nice.)
I've played both, and though Automata has better gameplay and production value, OG Nier's raw, unfiltered originality makes it a better reference.  Also, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyvQfn30uE).

I also play the "Tales of" series, and Persona, but that's neither here nor there.

I'll see if I can find a physical copy of Control locally; if not, there's always digital.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 02, 2020, 03:17:10 pm
Bloodborne is my favourite of the From Software games, though Sekero grew on me (took a long time to get into it).

Same, I must have beaten Bloodborne seven times now. (and dark souls 1 probably a dozen times)

Sekiro was great, but I did miss the ability to try on fancy dresses and hats.
Father Gascoigne's hat is best hat.

I never really got into Dark Souls 1, for some reason.  My play order was Demon's Souls -> Bloodborne -> DS1 -> Sekiro.  After Bloodborne, DS1 felt like a step back.  Bloodborne had better gameplay, and DS1 never managed to replicate that horrible tingling sensation I got from the Prison of Hope in Demon's Souls.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 02, 2020, 03:26:35 pm
Persona
Persona 5 was awesome, probably the only JRPG I've been able to do other than final fantasy, and though it has some cool themes it is a lot of style over substance, love the soundtrack and look. Tried making some of the bubbles and things theme for SMF last year but gave up and made the flat green theme that I love but everyone else hates.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 02, 2020, 04:01:08 pm
I was an FF fanboy in days long past, but fell off the bandwagon after FF13.  FF12 had some good ideas, but wasted its potential; FF13 was just another JRPG with annoying characters.

There's a lot of hype surrounding the imminent FF7 remake, but I'm not feeling it.  Sure, it looks great, but I have no confidence in modern Square-Enix's capacity to refrain from injecting bad melodrama into the substrate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on January 02, 2020, 04:25:56 pm
I'm actually replaying FF12 right now.

I dig the gambit system - I like the idea of writing your own tiny AI scripts to automate character behavior.

But jesus christ, the dialog in this game is absurdly overwrought. Everybody talks like Kuzzik from Role Models (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfs2soQHFIM), but very serious.

like nobody in this universe can just say "see you tomorrow", they have to say "Let us part ways until such time that the golden sun crests the horizon of tomorrow and I gaze again upon thy visage, again. Rub a dub dub."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 05:06:11 pm
If it helps better relate to your interests that's good:
Untitled Goose Game
Hollow knight
Cuphead
Detroit
and Horizon zero dawn
Would all be things I've played last year that fall under that.
As long as the game has a quality, if it does something well, explores an interesting new idea, or just has a good story but is a bit wonky I'll play it.

Your system does have a flaw though if you miss out on Resi 7 and instead get that piece of shit resi 6, and it excludes silent hill 2, which is still the best narrative game, and best horror game of all time and should automatically be on everyone's list regardless of criteria.

I got strict about my system well after I beat RE7. And besides, I still have the RE:Revelations games and 1, 2, 3, and Code Veronica. Thatís not a bad list at all.

Anyway the actual goal is to leave me time for the games I want to play. Itís stricter now because I have more options that are really good and fulfill the requirements, but when I run low on those Iíll relax the criteria again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 02, 2020, 06:05:58 pm

Im currently playing Final Fantasy Tactics A2...

Personally the best RPG ive played has been the original Final Fantasy Tactics... the story is great, you dont exist in a random encounter purgatory of souls, and the job progression system, i just love it - but I dont think it has much replay value, unfortunately.

A2 is less about the story but about running contract missions, where the objectives are always different, also the terrain and the opponent types, so its very engaging.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 06:07:19 pm
Other news!

My body is reacting to me buying an Amtrak ticket with fight-or-flight because every time I travel normally, itís for stressful reasons.

This time, itís for the FUTURE.

Anyway I apparently have PTSD for long distance transit now! Exciting, isnít it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 06:18:52 pm
Other news!

My body is reacting to me buying an Amtrak ticket with fight-or-flight because every time I travel normally, itís for stressful reasons.

This time, itís for the FUTURE.

Anyway I apparently have PTSD for long distance transit now! Exciting, isnít it?

I just hate air travel so much that I experience stress symptoms even when packed to the gills with benzodiazapine.  It's not fight or flight with me, it is just sheer loathing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 06:27:55 pm
Today marks 180 days since I have measured my blood sugar in 3 digits.  My doctor is now telling me my A1C is a little low and I should relax a bit.

But I have also lost 50 pounds in the last couple of years, and I now have an almost flat stomach for the first time since I left the army.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 06:38:08 pm
I, on the other hand, routinely ingest three grams of sugar in a single sitting and look like a gaki.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/yokai/images/a/ad/Gaki.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170208025404)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 03, 2020, 05:57:04 pm
On my way to quit my job again! :lulz:

This past two weeks are fucking surreal. Itís ridiculous. Reality is falling over, clutching its chest, speaking word salad, and Iím just staring in dim surprise, looking around to see if anyone else is aware of the great fucking gaps in cause and effect.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 06:19:49 pm
On my way to quit my job again! :lulz:

This past two weeks are fucking surreal. Itís ridiculous. Reality is falling over, clutching its chest, speaking word salad, and Iím just staring in dim surprise, looking around to see if anyone else is aware of the great fucking gaps in cause and effect.

If I were in your shoes, right this moment, I'd be stapling my pants to my chair at work, insanity notwithstanding.  This lovely job market has about 3-4 months left to it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 03, 2020, 06:34:00 pm
Oof. Time to apply like mad before education gets hit again.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 03, 2020, 06:54:40 pm
Fortunately for me, Iíll be working again before January is over.

I wouldnít have quit without a good reason. Company stupidity is an opportunity, not a reason to quit. Homelessness with a location lined up elsewhere that gets me a replacement job as a certainty and housing as an extremely strong possible is a reason to quit, period.

And make no mistake, this job is a certainty. I have two referrals from current workers there (they rate those very highly) and my resume, spotty though it is, says that I will be a credit to any company I work for.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 03, 2020, 10:19:02 pm
I would kill to have more of January off, enjoy every delicious minute of it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 04, 2020, 12:46:17 am
I just got news. The fix is in, I have this job in the bag.

The hiring manager who got my application apparently likes my application so much he has removed it from the general queue for special treatment. (As in it is being processed early.) My friend who referred me is being given the good nods.

It was not stated directly, but the impression I got is that there were arguments about who got to take credit for bringing me on board, and this hiring manager cut the Gordian knot by taking it without discussion or preamble while everyone else bickered.

Chicago is scary, man. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 08, 2020, 07:46:52 am
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.

Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)

Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.

But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.

But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.

Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)

So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 08, 2020, 12:55:59 pm
I forget to tell my best friends on this planet that Iím still alive for a month. (Hi QGP!) Assume good intentions.

But if you personally cannot deal with that kind of distance without being a bit worried, bring it up to her. It could be this thing was not going to work out from the start, or it could be a temporary state. Either way, you guys need to discuss it.

Doesnít need to be a big deal, but if you canít handle the distance and she needs it, Iíd say cut it off. That sort of tension never ends happily without consequences.

If this current state is not what either of you want, try to tough it out, but keep communication open about how itís affecting you. Make a distinction between ďsame as it wasĒ ďbetter than it wasĒ and ďworse than it wasĒ when talking about that, because if itís been consistently low-grade bad itís more important to talk about the consistency and low grade than the bad.

This is a socially crippled person giving you advice from my perspective. This therefore may or may not apply to you, but I feel these are good rules in general, for anyone, in any relationship (from acquaintances up to life partners).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2020, 01:28:05 pm
Also, use a goddamn condom.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on January 08, 2020, 01:30:57 pm
Don't get yourself all fucked up with these two snakes:

-This makes me feel bad, but
-That's just how she is


Also, use a goddamn condom.

SERIOUSLY
you say "i usually distrust more than trust", but not using a condom tells another story
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2020, 01:50:29 pm
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.

Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)

Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.

But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.

But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.

Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)

So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.

Sometimes you just gotta take a chance.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 08, 2020, 05:59:13 pm
Just so you all know, I have not had much to say, and working a lot of overtime, but I have been lurking faithfully and keeping up with the threads as best I can. There's so much going on personally and globally that I don't know what all to say.  So I'm just saying "Hi, I'm still here."

Also I might add,  "We are all fucked." but you almost certainly know that already.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 08, 2020, 08:16:19 pm
Ok, so I've been "in a relationship" with this woman for about 6 weeks... but idk if im just paranoid and I should be more patient or emphatic, or I'm being played like a fiddle.

Recap: Some months ago i ended a long distance relationship of like 5 years, and this other woman seeked me out once again (which she has done intermittently for 12 years, since last time we werer bf/gf, out of which 7 of those I had lived in a different city). She also has been single for 3.5 years, after her last partner physically/psychologycally abused her (she still cried when she told me this, and she even underwent surgery for sterilization in relation to it. Also, shes extremely introverted.)

Anyhow, last i saw her was 11 days ago, when she finally didnt have a reason or excuse to not go out, we went to some party, but she didnt like the people nor the noise, so she asked us to move elsewhere and we ended up in a hotel and all that... she even asked to not use protection, to make it more intimate.

But before that I hadnt seen her in like a month, and this past weekend she cancelled on me, just like other weekends... we text a lot during the day if i initiate, but one period i got really busy for 5 days and she didnt message me once.

But then again: she's extremely introverted, shes been in several abusive relationships, she works around 55 hours a week in a high-end parking lot booth (she does make about 2.5x what a "normal" salary is)... i think her mother is sick, her stepdad died like a year ago, and her teenage sister is a bit off the rails.

Also, when I asked her to be my girlfriend, I asked her if she was seeing someone else, and that I wouldn't mind it, but that we needed to be on the same page and clear about it from the start, and she did agree on being monogamous... I mean, how cynical would one have to be to cheat despite given the option of an open relationship? (Edit to add: besides, shes very pretty, and being of germanic descent in a Malinchist country such as Mexico, and attending a booth where strangers hit on her frequently, why would she bother with me in the first place... I mean, im not the pick of the litter and im just an over-educated middle class person)

So idk, on paper it makes sense for her to not pay as much attention to me cause a lot is on her plate... but on the other hand i still feel like im being played, i usually distrust more than trust in general.

I feel like if there's legitimate interest in you and a stated willingness for an exclusive relationship, you should try to just take her at her word. I wouldn't be worried that the distance she keeps between you is necessarily because she's involved with someone else -- if her relationships have been abusive, it may just be that she genuinely needs this relationship to exist solely on her terms, at least for now. If you can handle the space, let her have it. Let your relationship feel tentative and let it move as slowly or as quickly as she decides to move it, even if it seems to go back and forth. I really think the most dangerous thing (to your relationship) would be to make her feel like she owes you her attention. If that is asking to much of you, be up front with her about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 08, 2020, 11:27:07 pm

@altered: Yeah, like, I think I can handle the distance, my main issue was making sense out of it, and typing it out and expressing it and seeing the replies helped a lot with that. It's obviously not the closeness i want in the long term, but I think I can wait to see how it develops for some months. A year ago and before I was just being an ethical slut until it became unfulfilling, so I dont mind trying something new for a change.

@LMNO, Cram: I normally use protection and I know I should, and it came more out of a show of commitment rather than born out of trusting like you interpreted. This is the 2nd time I do it in my entire life without it, 1st time was 16 years ago when i was dumb (im still dumb but in a different way). I know STDs are a thing and a risk, but I wouldnt had done it with some random girl from Tinder or whatever. Pregnancy isnt an issue, subject has come up over the years and neither wants descendancy, and shes got her tubes cut and this 2.5inch horizontal scar to prove it.

@Dok: Yeah, its complicated, but I know id kick myself in the future if i didnt try now, whatever the outcome.

@Vex: Yeah, overall i try to give her some space, and thats like the gist of the whole thing, since part of the abuse she went thru was about control of her time, outings and people she communicated with.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 09, 2020, 12:42:32 am
There's an awful lot of games of thrones-ing at my work for it being a middle school.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 10, 2020, 09:06:13 am

Now that I'm actually inspecting closely Wagner's "The Ring of the Nibelung Cycle" and examining the 3rd Act of The Valkyrie... what a fucking shitlord Coppola is with what he did with "Apocalypse Now" which is a tell-tale sign of american culture.

"The Ride of the Valkyries" is originally about, Wotan's valkyries recruiting worthy warriors that have fallen, to protect Valhalla from power-hungry Alberich.... meanwhile in the film, it's used as music to glorify and make slaughtering villagers seem/feel as something heroic.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 01:56:04 pm

Now that I'm actually inspecting closely Wagner's "The Ring of the Nibelung Cycle" and examining the 3rd Act of The Valkyrie... what a fucking shitlord Coppola is with what he did with "Apocalypse Now" which is a tell-tale sign of american culture.

"The Ride of the Valkyries" is originally about, Wotan's valkyries recruiting worthy warriors that have fallen, to protect Valhalla from power-hungry Alberich.... meanwhile in the film, it's used as music to glorify and make slaughtering villagers seem/feel as something heroic.

Is that what you took from that scene?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2020, 02:22:43 pm
Yeah, I have to ask the same

Are you aware of Wagner's politics and the role his own music had in the volkisch renaissance under Hitler?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 02:24:39 pm
Well, I made it through the Christmas season, once again without being tortured and tormented and brainwashed, by ghosts or waifish children, into understanding  the true meaning of Christmas.

So that's a win.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2020, 02:36:16 pm
Did you win the Wham! challenge though?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on January 10, 2020, 02:38:37 pm
Did you win the Wham! challenge though?

This Christmas season I learned that both Ariana Grande and Ashley Tisdale have done covers of that song.

Getting pedicures during the holidays can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 10, 2020, 02:57:20 pm
Is that what you took from that scene?

Yeah, I have to ask the same

Are you aware of Wagner's politics and the role his own music had in the volkisch renaissance under Hitler?

Yes, although its been around a decade since ive watched "Apocalypse".

And well, I do learned that the last thing the Berlin (?) orchestra played was Brunnhildes self-immolation scene, and that Hagen backstabbing Siegfried was taken as a metaphor to how certain segments of the population "backstabbed the war effort and caused them to lose WWI".

But the opera is from the 1870s so I dont think its accountable for the interpretation it was given? Im not aware of Wagners political stances, besides being the king's, whats it called? Protege? I mean, personally sponsored by him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2020, 03:13:14 pm
He was an ardent German nationalist who despised Jews and was part of the milieu of German nationalist "romanticists" who set the popular culture groundwork for National Socialism in Germany.

Nietzsche broke off his friendship with the man over his political stances.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2020, 03:15:01 pm
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 07:14:14 pm
I just heard a funk cover of Hanson's "Mm-bop" and...

...It's a really good song.

This causes me anguish.  It makes me doubt everything I understand about the universe.  It feels unjust.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 07:16:10 pm
Also, there is a trope concerning the cover craze.

If there is a female singer, the camera will *always* be focused on her left tit.  No matter what.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 12:42:04 am

I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 11, 2020, 01:02:02 am
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/

Oh ok, this "Rienzi" opera is literally Hitler's political career, and I see Wagner wrote anti-semitic stuff and was one.

Tho I still dont understand what you guys imply that is wrong with my interpretation of the Valkyries and Apocalypse Now.

Also, biographically speaking I can see how Wagner's anti-capitalist discourse can be equated to his hatred for jews, but i think his anti-capitalist discourse in the Nibelungs opera isnt overtly tied to anti-semitism, at least within the work itself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2020, 01:28:04 am
Wagner's work is inextricably tied to his Nazi legacy in Europe and most of North America. Ask who is Hitler's favourite composer and Wagner will invariably be the answer.

Taking that into account, what do you think Coppola was trying to say with that scene? Especially contrasted against the scene in which it was actually in for Wagner's work?

Also Wagner's antisemitism was notable even at the time, and anti-semitism and anticapitalist thinking were often conjoined, ironically with an equal fear of "Jewish socialism" on the other hand. The "Jewish capital" of Wall Street and London and the "Jewish socialism" of urban society (and, well after he was dead, the Soviet Union) was a common theme of writings of the time, which saw them as two false choices pushed by the Jews to undermine nationalism.

Nietzsche also wrote quite extensively in his own work about Wagner's virulent hatred of Jews, whom Nietzsche himself considered some of the best and most cultured people in Europe.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 11, 2020, 01:59:43 am
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/

I'm teaching the Holocaust rn aaaand I'm gonna be digging through that site. Thank you!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2020, 02:02:53 am
http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/wagner-richard/

I'm teaching the Holocaust rn aaaand I'm gonna be digging through that site. Thank you!

No worries, it's a recent find but they seem to cite the right sources, so it's a very useful one indeed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 12, 2020, 05:36:39 am
Why the fuck do people keep adding me to FB Discordian groups?

If I wanted my Discordia with confederate fucking flags, I'd ask for it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 12, 2020, 05:00:52 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OKupqJ1qKL0

I forgot about my alarm after a week of not using it. I had recently maxed out my alarm volume for other reasons.

I woke up instantly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: rong on January 12, 2020, 05:16:09 pm
Wagner's work is inextricably tied to his Nazi legacy in Europe and most of North America. Ask who is Hitler's favourite composer and Wagner will invariably be the answer.

Taking that into account, what do you think Coppola was trying to say with that scene? Especially contrasted against the scene in which it was actually in for Wagner's work?

Also Wagner's antisemitism was notable even at the time, and anti-semitism and anticapitalist thinking were often conjoined, ironically with an equal fear of "Jewish socialism" on the other hand. The "Jewish capital" of Wall Street and London and the "Jewish socialism" of urban society (and, well after he was dead, the Soviet Union) was a common theme of writings of the time, which saw them as two false choices pushed by the Jews to undermine nationalism.

Nietzsche also wrote quite extensively in his own work about Wagner's virulent hatred of Jews, whom Nietzsche himself considered some of the best and most cultured people in Europe.

WTF I love the Blues Brothers even more now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9N7v5qGig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9N7v5qGig)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2020, 09:51:29 pm
 :lulz: I'd forgotten all about that.

Yeah, that definitely wasn't an accident.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 02:32:36 pm
I hate everything and I only want to die.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 14, 2020, 02:39:03 pm
Aw noo....
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:21:57 pm
Fall in a hole, go missing.

I think they're eating these folks.

https://apnews.com/1fbf694d4fc67b6a3b8feafbe9ae0a2f
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 14, 2020, 03:29:07 pm
I hate everything and I only want to die.

*catches on fire and runs shrieking into a fluorine production facility*
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:48:52 pm
Hamish Howl,

A formal response to your request delivered via The Facebook

Regards

(https://i.imgur.com/xeH5kXd.png)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 14, 2020, 04:58:48 pm
Fall in a hole, go missing.

I think they're eating these folks.

https://apnews.com/1fbf694d4fc67b6a3b8feafbe9ae0a2f

1000 emergency workers? What the actual fuck, don't they have anything better to do?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:14:35 pm
Hamish Howl,

A formal response to your request delivered via The Facebook

Regards


The original quote was from the discord, where I was making fun of the two mods that think they have to run the place like a prison camp.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 05:28:03 pm
I know who you mean and they are a bit over the top at times, yeah.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:41:07 pm
I know who you mean and they are a bit over the top at times, yeah.

The Godless Mingle Effect:  How to go from 28,000 members to 6 people posting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:42:10 pm
It's the classic example of what happens when you take people who have no agency in their lives and make them mods.

Like Memnoch, only less toxic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:00 pm

I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.

??   https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE

Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:52:46 pm

I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.

??   https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE

Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.

I like it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on January 14, 2020, 05:57:23 pm

I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.

??   https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE

Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.

I like it.

Same. My commentary seemed a bit underwhelming, but that's about as much mental and physical enthusiasm I can muster right now. "Not terrible" is/was a sort of inside joke with my Dad when he was still alive, and still is with my family, and generally doesn't mean terrible or bad at all.

I can't believe it's been over 20 years since that came out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 14, 2020, 09:18:27 pm

I ran into a cover of "Every breath you take" of The Police, with the guitar and bass lines intact, just the voice work is like a male guy rapping and a female soul (?) chorus accompanying it, and the lyrics got retconned to not be about stalking, it feels really dumb.

??   https://youtu.be/NKMtZm2YuBE

Puff Daddy/Faith Evans cover in memory of Biggie's passing. It's alright. Not terrible in that context.

I like it.

Oh, I just couldn't find it on my own, didnt know it wasnt just a bunch of randoms twisting badly the original intent of the song.

Now that I know the context, its moving, i like it now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 15, 2020, 12:42:40 am
Wanted to thank you again, Cain, for that link. I used one of the camp songs for an assignment today and it fits the theme of this unit a lot better than the one in the stupid book.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 15, 2020, 03:22:13 am
 :lulz:

I found an excellent use for Atlas Shrugged!

It keeps the cats from knocking my stupid gaming briefcase thing shut. Perfect fit to be wedged in there without putting pressure on anything or blocking the vents.

Someone where Iím living had a copy as a prize for some writing contest and offered it as the ideal solution to my woes. Sure enough...  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 15, 2020, 07:35:59 am
Seems like the last time I posted in Open Bar was when Nullified came to Boston

-Quit my shitty second job
-I should be wrapping up my data collection for my master's this month
-I'm dragging on that because I've had a near continuous headache/neckache on the left side of my head for the past two weeks and have spent most of it on the couch. I went into the lab a couple of times, but since movement exacerbates everything, I'm real reluctant to take bumpy public transportation for 90 minutes each way. Doctor was unconcerned and I'm not dead yet so it's probably ok outside of the near continuous at best discomfort
-BUT! I might finally have a third professor for my committee
-I currently have a certain optimism that I'm suspicious of
-People sometimes ask me how married life is. It's exactly the same as cohabitating life except now I wear a ring. I suppose that's what happens when you wait 8 years to propose
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 15, 2020, 01:05:37 pm
I found an excellent use for Atlas Shrugged!

It keeps the cats from knocking my stupid gaming briefcase thing shut. Perfect fit to be wedged in there without putting pressure on anything or blocking the vents.
Just don't let anyone see you with it in public; it might lead to awkward questions.  Obscure the cover with dried blood, or something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on January 15, 2020, 08:20:20 pm
I've been stuck inside my flat since last friday waiting for a replacement key. Amount of boring is very therapeutic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 15, 2020, 10:32:43 pm
Today's low was -38 C, -52 with the windchill.  I froze my nose-hair.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on January 15, 2020, 11:28:20 pm
So that's where all the winter went...

e: looking at the weather maps makes me think that the denialists bought all the cold air from europe.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 16, 2020, 01:22:43 am
Today's low was -38 C, -52 with the windchill.  I froze my nose-hair.

You live in Jack London's bad dreams.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 19, 2020, 07:22:50 am
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. Itís black and white, the man is on the left side.

Iím being told that it doesnít exist. I need to show them they are wrong.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 20, 2020, 02:31:18 am
I brought this for LMNO.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on January 20, 2020, 02:24:30 pm
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. Itís black and white, the man is on the left side.

Iím being told that it doesnít exist. I need to show them they are wrong.

is this it (https://66.media.tumblr.com/791bded9c1c130955693e5bf27a2fbed/889295149939ba52-9b/s500x750/14997787d86baa9b39bb891586130b2dc90d14c4.jpg)?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 20, 2020, 02:30:51 pm
goddamit
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 20, 2020, 03:46:41 pm
There is a gif, I swear I saw it here before: a man laughs while a burger materializes before him piece by piece. Itís black and white, the man is on the left side.

Iím being told that it doesnít exist. I need to show them they are wrong.

is this it (https://66.media.tumblr.com/791bded9c1c130955693e5bf27a2fbed/889295149939ba52-9b/s500x750/14997787d86baa9b39bb891586130b2dc90d14c4.jpg)?

This is EXACTLY the sort of shit that got you excommunicated.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on January 20, 2020, 04:28:21 pm
okay okay okay I'm sure I can find it....




Black and white, man on the left, burger appears piece by piece:



(http://www.nmsr.org/Blanch4.gif)


uhhhhhh
that can't be it...



Okay, lemme try again.




Black and white, man on the left, burger appears....

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/popeye/images/2/26/Wimpy_Ghost_Burgers.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20160912210053)


GOD DAMN IT


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 04:51:17 pm
Unrelated to hamburgers:

As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.

For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015.  :lulz:

So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS.  :goatse:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on January 21, 2020, 07:14:19 pm
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?

That's...

I mean...


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 07:36:04 pm
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?

That's...

I mean...

Yes.  I responded to a person on FB some time ago, and never heard back.  Which is no big deal, happens regularly.

So I'm going through my account in preparation of my next ban expiration, and I find a PM from this person from like a week ago, saying why this person can't respond in public.

This will of course end well for everyone involved, and will make the original problem all better.

For a given value of "Marvin".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2020, 08:03:51 pm
It.

Was.

Four.

Years.

Ago.

Seriously, some people...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2020, 10:34:51 pm
Unrelated to hamburgers:

As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.

For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015.  :lulz:

So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS.  :goatse:

I've mostly kept to myself about this shit because I see no gain in expressing my opinion about something that is absolutely not my business beyond the fact that it happened between two people I have respect for and consider friends and wish it was not so because it made be very uncomfortable emotionally. But I realized that expecting MY wishes to be somehow fulfilled by expressing MY opinion about YOUR business for the sake of MY comfort is stupid and childish at best. So I simply said nothing and went about my business. I think I made the right choice.

I'm only even chiming in now because this strikes me as truly ridiculous. Whoever said that to you is either genuinely worried about Nigel's possible negative reaction to seeing you interact, which I find unlikely, or they are trying to con you by tacitly agreeing with you by complaining about Nigel's potential reaction while seeking to somehow maintain a confidence with you in secret. To what end I don't know, but it's both stupid and essentially insulting to you both. They are basically saying that you would be an embarrassment to interact with publicly, but seeks to interact secretly despite this instead of just telling anyone that has a problem with it to fuck off, as is proper. They are cowardly and either stupid, think you are stupid, or both.

If it was really about you being "too mean" to Nigel they should just tell you so and stop interacting with you.

If they are really afraid that Nigel will somehow react in a manipulative or otherwise negative way to you interacting then they should cut her off as toxic and do as they please.

Instead of those things they are trying to have some sort of secret liaison with you while publicly maintaining what I can only assume at this point is an equally false friendship with Nigel.

You're 169% right to tell them to get fucked.

It would seem to me that this is just intentional shit stirring, and that's what was weird enough to provoke me to even post this reply. It's been years. What the fuck is there to gain from bringing it up at all?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 10:43:25 pm
Unrelated to hamburgers:

As of today, I won't be interacting with people that don't want to talk to me or don't want to be seen talking with me on account of I was too mean to Nigel.

For serious, people, that shit has been a thing since December of 2015.  :lulz:

So the next person who sends me an email or a PM telling my they couldn't respond to me on social media, save your breath for KISSING MY ASS.  :goatse:

I've mostly kept to myself about this shit because I see no gain in expressing my opinion about something that is absolutely not my business beyond the fact that it happened between two people I have respect for and consider friends and wish it was not so because it made be very uncomfortable emotionally. But I realized that expecting MY wishes to be somehow fulfilled by expressing MY opinion about YOUR business for the sake of MY comfort is stupid and childish at best. So I simply said nothing and went about my business. I think I made the right choice.

I'm only even chiming in now because this strikes me as truly ridiculous. Whoever said that to you is either genuinely worried about Nigel's possible negative reaction to seeing you interact, which I find unlikely, or they are trying to con you by tacitly agreeing with you by complaining about Nigel's potential reaction while seeking to somehow maintain a confidence with you in secret. To what end I don't know, but it's both stupid and essentially insulting to you both. They are basically saying that you would be an embarrassment to interact with publicly, but seeks to interact secretly despite this instead of just telling anyone that has a problem with it to fuck off, as is proper. They are cowardly and either stupid, think you are stupid, or both.

If it was really about you being "too mean" to Nigel they should just tell you so and stop interacting with you.

If they are really afraid that Nigel will somehow react in a manipulative or otherwise negative way to you interacting then they should cut her off as toxic and do as they please.

Instead of those things they are trying to have some sort of secret liaison with you while publicly maintaining what I can only assume at this point is an equally false friendship with Nigel.

You're 169% right to tell them to get fucked.

It would seem to me that this is just intentional shit stirring, and that's what was weird enough to provoke me to even post this reply. It's been years. What the fuck is there to gain from bringing it up at all?

I don't require that anyone do, feel, or say anything, take any side, or whatfuckingever.

I just don't want to hear about it anymore. For fuck's sake.  :lol:

And you are 169% correct in that last paragraph, and this sort of thing just makes me automatically hostile.  Not angry, just hostile.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on January 21, 2020, 11:22:14 pm
Wait, people are actively going out of their way telling you they're not responding to you?

That's...

I mean...

I remember people pulling that shit on my sister in high school "I'll be your friend, but not in public"  It's bullshit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:43:40 pm
I'm really glad I deleted facebook, on forums you don't know who isn't talking to who until they loudly annouce it and we all get to take swipes at each other and get it out of our systems.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 11:44:42 pm
I'm really glad I deleted facebook, on forums you don't know who isn't talking to who until they loudly annouce it and we all get to take swipes at each other and get it out of our systems.

Every 30 day ban makes me want FB a little less.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:47:19 pm
To be honest I would be lining up a little shelf of those like trophies. Spite would probably have been the only thing that could have stopped me from getting rid of it
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 11:49:15 pm
To be honest I would be lining up a little shelf of those like trophies. Spite would probably have been the only thing that could have stopped me from getting rid of it

I spent 55% of the last 12 months banned.  My latest ban ends next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:54:23 pm
That's some good going, when the doctor says walk 10k steps a day, they should also say spend at least 50% of the year in FB jail
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 02:29:21 am
So, I scored a patent.   :)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2020, 02:40:15 am
Very cool! What on?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 02:44:59 am
Very cool! What on?

A new method of controlling heater elements.

More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.

It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it.  The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 22, 2020, 06:01:25 am

The Howling TGRR radiatorTM
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2020, 05:26:17 pm
Very cool! What on?

A new method of controlling heater elements.

More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.

It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it.  The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.

That's pretty fucking awesome, man!




on a tangent, i spent sunday, monday, and half of yesterday attempting to recover from a cold and then couldnt fall asleep until like 2am. i am with a class today that, while i adore, regularly tests me and i am exhausted to the point of being a little loopy. they are under reign now but i had to threaten to eat them (not literally bc they would have made that weird and also, i ain't ending up in the paper for a joke). i haven't seen them since september so that's to be expected but ugh. also, some other dumbass sub walked off with my folder so i don't have my keys and i am kinda pissed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 23, 2020, 11:33:02 am
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.


The Howling TGRR radiatorTM

Comes pre-banned in China!

Apply directly to the forehead!

Blown gasket included!

Now 40% more malevelolent!

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2020, 01:41:42 pm
Congrats!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2020, 01:42:55 pm
Very cool! What on?

A new method of controlling heater elements.

More accurate, less energy, less wear and tear.

It's the company's property obviously, but my name is on it.  The associated bonus is nice, but my name is on it.

That's pretty fucking awesome, man!




on a tangent, i spent sunday, monday, and half of yesterday attempting to recover from a cold and then couldnt fall asleep until like 2am. i am with a class today that, while i adore, regularly tests me and i am exhausted to the point of being a little loopy. they are under reign now but i had to threaten to eat them (not literally bc they would have made that weird and also, i ain't ending up in the paper for a joke). i haven't seen them since september so that's to be expected but ugh. also, some other dumbass sub walked off with my folder so i don't have my keys and i am kinda pissed.

I feel ya. Days like that....well, there's a reason I'm not currently in education.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 08:15:37 pm
Congrats!

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 08:16:01 pm
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.


The Howling TGRR radiatorTM

Comes pre-banned in China!

Apply directly to the forehead!

Blown gasket included!

Now 40% more malevelolent!

The the first one on your block to blow up your block!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 10:01:03 pm
So this might have been one of my ancestors...:lulz:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-rock-ad-79-italy-eruption-part-exploded-004432956.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 23, 2020, 11:17:01 pm
Very fucking cool, Roger, congrats.


The Howling TGRR radiatorTM

Comes pre-banned in China!

Apply directly to the forehead!

Blown gasket included!

Now 40% more malevelolent!

The the first one on your block to blow up your block!

And the last.
It's like a mic drop, only louder and more spectacular.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 25, 2020, 10:38:31 am
I have had my first experience with a verified hell cat.

Having saved at least twenty ferals and kept more than enough cats in my circles, I am awake at 4:30AM babysitting a cat who ate a royal fuckton of litter for the sake of eating litter.

Weíve done the health problems check. No chance of that being the issue.

Same cat will attack shoes if and only if you havenít worn them for a couple hours, arenít paying attention, and are within five feet of the resulting racket. Knocks over cups with water in them, and never empty ones or non-liquid holding containers. Tears the weather proofing out of the windows. Will keep you awake (to the point of claws and teeth) until you give up on sleep, then curl up in a chair nearby and go to sleep himself once you caffeinate.

Iíve had literally two dozen cats, minimum, and interacted with hundreds more, and this is the worst behaved one Iíve ever met.

And for me, the kicker is... Has a thousand toys and between 3 and 6 people AND another cat in the house who play with him all day long.

There is no call for this behavior! But he canít seem to function without actively trying to fuck with people. And heís definitely fucking with people: he never does damage when no ones around, and he will actively walk away from positive attention to knock over a water cup on someoneís desk, get everyone screaming, then dash through the door into another room and start grooming himself like what, huh? Wasnít me! Been here the whole time!

I can say one positive thing. When he is informed that something IS A CABLE AND NOT FOOD he gets it and leaves it alone. I respect that.

I do not respect that instead, if he really wants to fuck with electronics, heíll knock water into them. Rat bastard.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2020, 11:20:39 am
I don't believe you, because science says cats are nice (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yp9n37/cats-are-nice).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 25, 2020, 10:14:19 pm
#NotAllCats
https://media.giphy.com/media/dsQrgnnujXPDJTjFMX/source.mov (https://media.giphy.com/media/dsQrgnnujXPDJTjFMX/source.mov)

Or maybe the dog is being lulled into a false sense of security...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 26, 2020, 02:04:17 am
 :lulz:

They are nice usually! Iíve been a cat rescuer and big fan of cats for ages, dealt with all kinds of behavioral issues, all of that. Most cats are legitimately wonderful, though sometimes difficult. This one is the exception.

If my only cat experience had been with one like this, Iíd have never become a cat person at all. I can finally understand now how some people believe cats are hell demons by default, itís such a consistent pattern of FUCK YOU from this little guy. Absolutely not motivated by positive attention, food, comfort. Motivated exclusively by squirt bottles and watching everyone scream and run into each other in panic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on January 26, 2020, 03:14:05 am
I think someone is vaguebooking about me but I can't tell because vaguebooking.  So I'll be vague here for fun.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 01:21:50 pm
Quote from: altered
Absolutely not motivated by positive attention, food, comfort. Motivated exclusively by squirt bottles and watching everyone scream and run into each other in panic.

Just a word to the wise, squirt bottles, if you are going to use them, require extreme stealth. Because if the cat knows YOU did it, he will just decide you're bad. And then you get the adversarial thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2020, 02:41:04 pm
We never had that problem, but we did use the squirt bottle sparingly.

Often, the mere act of getting it out was enough to send them running.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 10:42:08 pm
The cats didn't want to engage in a war with you. Cats are smart.
They choose their victims carefully. I doubt you'll ever find catshit in your shoes. :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 27, 2020, 06:50:27 pm
I have had my first experience with a verified hell cat.

...

And for me, the kicker is... Has a thousand toys and between 3 and 6 people AND another cat in the house who play with him all day long.

There is no call for this behavior! But he canít seem to function without actively trying to fuck with people. And heís definitely fucking with people: he never does damage when no ones around, and he will actively walk away from positive attention to knock over a water cup on someoneís desk, get everyone screaming, then dash through the door into another room and start grooming himself like what, huh? Wasnít me! Been here the whole time!

So...is this cat someone's adored pet / beloved member of the family?  My solution to unpleasant people is to avoid interaction with them, and if this cat is genuinely a asshole, why continue in an abusive relationship?  I don't want to sound like a jerk, because I quite like cats (despite an allergy), but maybe donating him to a farm, or an animal shelter would be for the best.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 27, 2020, 07:47:58 pm
Definitely a beloved family member. Not mine, of course, but...

Either way, he wonít be getting shipped off. Iím willing to try and work with him, and heís better today, so.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on January 28, 2020, 04:00:01 am
Give it treats when it fucks up someone elses shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 02:38:57 pm
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.

Life cycle so far:

1.  Starts as a tag group.
2.  A few people take hold of it, jam content through the roof.
3.  Too big for 3 admins.
4.  Appoint mods from the most active users.

Boom.  Failure point.

5.  Mods make sooper secret admin chamber.
6.  Mods spend more and more time in sooper secret admin chamber (remember that these were also the most active content creators).
7.  Mods become more and more control freak in nature, as a feedback thing while in sooper secret admin chamber.
8.  Mods posting on group reduced to weird blanket threats of banning people.
9.  Mods begin banning people for using the wrong emote.  Those who contribute to the owner's Patreon are immune, as are people who kiss enough ass.  Mods begin to notice that 99% of the traffic is memes, can't figure out why.
10.  Mods ostracize any mod that objects to weirdness.
11.  Mods ban someone for using the wrong trigger words.

I can't say past that point, because that's when I quit.  It was simply too ridiculous.

Those who have been here since the beginning of PD may notice the pattern.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 04:29:57 pm
The more I think about that, the more I want to channel GIGGLES.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on January 28, 2020, 04:52:12 pm
We should all channel Giggles more often.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:37:28 pm
I don't really remember Giggles?


The teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on January 28, 2020, 07:53:25 pm
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.

I dont have it in me for a rant, BUT, something about everyone having a secret anal control freak within that's dormant, waiting for the slightest excuse to be put into action - that's society and history for the most part.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 08:28:40 pm
So, I quit adminning a 28,000 person Facebook group, because it has reached that point in a group's life cycle where it drops to 10 or so active users in a month, and I don't care to watch the end.

I dont have it in me for a rant, BUT, something about everyone having a secret anal control freak within that's dormant, waiting for the slightest excuse to be put into action - that's society and history for the most part.

I have noticed that happens to everyone who has not been saddled with real authority in real life.

The 300th time you get your ass chewed because of things outside of your control, it wears a bit thin and becomes strictly administrative.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 08:30:36 pm
I don't really remember Giggles?

Nobody can remember GIGGLES.  You just take a moment and thank Baby Jesus for the human ability to compartmentalize.


Quote
The teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).

Well, I can't suggest Arizona.  Our teachers have been fleeing as fast as they can, because the entire state hates them for being LIMOUSINE LIBRULS and so they don't get paid SHIT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 28, 2020, 08:45:51 pm
I don't really remember Giggles?

Nobody can remember GIGGLES.  You just take a moment and thank Baby Jesus for the human ability to compartmentalize.
:lulz:

Quote
Quote
The teacher I was a long term sub for got axed Friday. He's going to be let go at the end of the year, the poor guy. Like, I can follow the principal's logic (he's not showing improvement and growth as a teacher) but they've also been looking for a way to get rid of him since they hired him - he was their second choice and broke his previous contract to be able to work at this school, and they only took him on bc they'd made a job offer and therefore had to. I'm sure it's gonna be a blessing in disguise bc that school is a massive shitshow (which is why I won't be looking to apply unless, maybe a position on the much more functional 7th grade team opens up bc I think I can keep my head down and avoid the interoffice politics, and I'm only looking to be here for another two years before bouncing out of this hellmouth of a town).

Well, I can't suggest Arizona.  Our teachers have been fleeing as fast as they can, because the entire state hates them for being LIMOUSINE LIBRULS and so they don't get paid SHIT.
Yeah, he'll probably stay local bc he's got a family. Some of the districts around here pay, like, $60k for first year teachers, and he's not a first year. He's got his clear credential I think, so he'll probably be fine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 29, 2020, 12:22:10 am
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply.  :noodledance:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 02:17:03 am
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply.  :noodledance:

wooooooooo!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 29, 2020, 04:58:16 pm
I went to a job expo thing for my district last week and got called this afternoon by HR, asking anything my credential status (I just need a job offer and I'll have an intern credential). Got an email about an hour ago inviting me to apply.  :noodledance:

wooooooooo!


I'm pretty excited, though a little concerned I'll get offers at schools I avoid as a sub. One of my old professors who was not, technically, a direct supervisor (which is what they want) but directly say the impact I had on his abysmal pass rate when I was a tutor for him, has agreed to submit again for me. His letter got me the sub job I have now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on January 30, 2020, 01:57:49 am
Friend of mine works some sort of helpdesk for DMV software or something of that nature, I know it involves license plates and background checks and lots of idiots.  Somehow their email helpdesk@whatever.whatever got listed as the state help desk.

So naturally people are emailing it to try to stop some sort of chicken tossing event that is occuring in a small town.  Because you email a helpdesk instead of a state representative or mayor or whatever to get things done.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 30, 2020, 09:36:56 pm
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:05:28 am
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.

Then civil service was a good choice.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on January 31, 2020, 03:24:49 am
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.

Then civil service was a good choice.   :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 12:57:13 pm
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.

Then civil service was a good choice.   :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?

Chainsaw juggler?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 01, 2020, 07:45:32 am
Oh, FFS. I was looking at what the district wants me to do on the application and they want me to take the Gallup teacher insight survey, which is like low key a personality test that looks for "naturally talented teachers", as if the very concept were not horseshit bc teaching is an art. I'm gonna ask the principal at the school I'm at today, who really wants to hire me, what percentage of the top scorers they take for second interviews. I hate jumping through hoops.

Then civil service was a good choice.   :lulz:
What job doesn't jumping through hoops tho?

Chainsaw juggler?
I'm sure there's licenses to get for that, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on February 01, 2020, 11:49:04 am
I didn't have to jump through hoops.  I work at a vineyard.   Mind you, I make very little money, but I have very little hassle.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 01, 2020, 10:44:35 pm
I didn't have to jump through them for hiring either when I started subbing, either, but now even to do THAT in my district, you have to take that horseshit test. Sitting here laughing tho bc the kids get the growth mindset spiel but the district is out here looking for "naturally talented" teachers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 09:24:12 pm
Ever had a moment where you just can't wait to speak ill of the dead?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-advanced-lung-cancer
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 03, 2020, 10:31:10 pm
Ever had a moment where you just can't wait to speak ill of the dead?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-advanced-lung-cancer

 :news:
Fuck that guy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2020, 10:40:29 pm
Yeah. I mean, is it really speaking ill of the dead if you're willing to say they're a shitbag when they're alive also?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 10:41:11 pm
Yeah. I mean, is it really speaking ill of the dead if you're willing to say they're a shitbag when they're alive also?

Naw.  If I hate the bastard now, I don't see the need to get all weepy when he croaks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 05, 2020, 07:28:25 pm
Three cheers for comrade lung cancer!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:09:17 pm
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.

You should really come back to 1979.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 05, 2020, 09:13:26 pm
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.

You should really come back to 1979.

What's going on this week in 79?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:17:32 pm
I keep telling you guys that 21st century is bad news.

You should really come back to 1979.

What's going on this week in 79?

Got me a new pair of side-zippered roach stompers.

Air conditioning is optional.

Jimmy Carter is totally gonna kick Reagan's ass next year.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 05, 2020, 10:28:07 pm
this week in 79, the hit was Do You Think I'm Sexy by Rod Stewart

it was a more civilized time
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: MMIX on February 05, 2020, 11:46:15 pm
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 06, 2020, 12:03:21 am

Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
 :fnord:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 06, 2020, 01:06:30 pm

Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
 :fnord:


(https://assets.radiox.co.uk/2015/30/billy-corgan-rollercoaster-1438009202-article-0.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhgpelu0vY
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:51:07 pm

Shakedown, 1979
cool kids could never have the time
 :fnord:


(https://assets.radiox.co.uk/2015/30/billy-corgan-rollercoaster-1438009202-article-0.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azhgpelu0vY

This made my morning measurably worse.  :crankey:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:53:30 pm
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant

Yes, but in the UK the misery quotient was maxed from 1914 to the present.  And THAT'S if you had money.  Otherwise you had to go way the fuck back to 1100 CE before anyone was having a good time.

And the time machine can only go back to the disco era.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: MMIX on February 06, 2020, 02:07:21 pm
Fuck 1979, my mum had just dropped dead and I was pregnant

Yes, but in the UK the misery quotient was maxed from 1914 to the present.  And THAT'S if you had money.  Otherwise you had to go way the fuck back to 1100 CE before anyone was having a good time.

And the time machine can only go back to the disco era.
Fuck yeah. Well the law of averages says we got to be good at something so booyah for misery!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 06, 2020, 02:12:32 pm
About a year ago, they told me some circuit cards at site were sporadically giving self-test errors on startup.  I told them I couldn't diagnose this remotely, and they needed to send me one of the suspect units.

They didn't.

About three months ago, they brought up the issue again; I reiterated that I needed physical access to debug this.

I guess it wasn't a high priority.

A month ago, the same project recruited my help for a software problem, and afterward, asked me yet again to look at the cause of the card failures.

This time they left a pair of cards at my desk.

It took me about two days to find the problem, and create a workaround (which the end-customer will supposedly be happy about, since these cards are about eight years old, well out of warranty, and expensive to replace. )

I informed them of the fix, and told them they could take the cards back.

They haven't, yet.

I wonder if it will take another year for them to pick them up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 02:48:02 pm
About a year ago, they told me some circuit cards at site were sporadically giving self-test errors on startup.  I told them I couldn't diagnose this remotely, and they needed to send me one of the suspect units.

They didn't.

About three months ago, they brought up the issue again; I reiterated that I needed physical access to debug this.

I guess it wasn't a high priority.

A month ago, the same project recruited my help for a software problem, and afterward, asked me yet again to look at the cause of the card failures.

This time they left a pair of cards at my desk.

It took me about two days to find the problem, and create a workaround (which the end-customer will supposedly be happy about, since these cards are about eight years old, well out of warranty, and expensive to replace. )

I informed them of the fix, and told them they could take the cards back.

They haven't, yet.

I wonder if it will take another year for them to pick them up.

This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.

Do you get paid on time, though?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:07:05 pm
People are starting to wear dust masks to work.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 06, 2020, 03:25:03 pm
This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.

Do you get paid on time, though?
Payroll is outsourced to a competent third-party.

This is fortunate, since our in-house IT doesn't appear to be able to even handle asset management; most of my computers have two or three distinct asset tags (added at various different times), yet they still can't keep track of what monitors I've been issued.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:26:54 pm
This sounds like my place and it makes me fucking crazy.

Do you get paid on time, though?
Payroll is outsourced to a competent third-party.

This is fortunate, since our in-house IT doesn't appear to be able to even handle asset management; most of my computers have two or three distinct asset tags (added at various different times), yet they still can't keep track of what monitors I've been issued.

I have capital items in our facility that don't appear anywhere on our books. 

The GAO audit starts a week from Monday.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:50:03 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 06, 2020, 03:51:37 pm
guns don't kill people, medieval artillery kills people
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:54:53 pm
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 06, 2020, 08:21:55 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 08:27:25 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

What's so weird about that?  I have a crossbow on my desk right now.  Not even kidding.

And I am trying to arrange pit bulls to be outside the door of the bastard in the next office.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2020, 10:15:22 pm
On the upside, I'm now in the candidate pool for a full social science teaching position for my district. :noodledance:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 06, 2020, 10:24:49 pm
Hoping you have good Fortune!

I found this insightful

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ncZoNORFDGs
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 11:17:24 pm
I'm not banned on facebook at the moment, but I can't reply to any of my own threads, because the fucking thing goes tits-up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2020, 11:20:07 pm
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.

Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.

I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2020, 11:59:23 pm
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.

Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.

I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 07, 2020, 12:21:33 am
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

...

Quote
One of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.

"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 07, 2020, 12:40:42 am
Hoping you have good Fortune!
Thank you! I'm pretty sure the principal who wrote one of my letters of support will hire me if she can bc she's straight up said, "I want you to work for me." I'm on pretty good terms with several other middle school principals and that's most likely where I'll start.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 07, 2020, 02:01:59 pm
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.

Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.

I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.

yikes -- you gotta be CAREFUL

my buddy teaches high-school special ed.. specificially teaches kids who were removed from public school for behavioral issues. He's always got bruises and bite marks. At his last job, the "straw that broke the camel's back" was having a rib broken by a student that threw him against a wall. And the principal wouldn't back up the teachers. So my friend ragequit that job, but not because of the kids -- because of the administration not taking his reccomendations seriously, even after he was hospitalized.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 07, 2020, 02:41:31 pm
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't mind taking a regular special ed class but they don't train us for special ed at all and the job posting last night just said "special ed k-12" instead of what it SHOULD have said, which is moderate to severe. I should get fucking hazard pay bc one of them hit me and I did NOT sign up for this.

Yeah, I remember when I was on jobseekers allowance, and I was being questioned by one of the department as to why I didn't apply for a specific job which I was otherwise qualified for.

I pointed out it was with autistic children and required previous experience (which I did not have) and he was immediately like "absolutely justified, not a problem". People who work with kids with severe special needs are great, but it's not an expectation you can just lay on everyone, and especially not without warning them beforehand.
Seriously. Some of them were non verbal and autistic, prone to grabbing and scratching and I walked into this blind. Like, we managed totally okay the last two periods of the day but I do not have the patience to do that shit very often.

yikes -- you gotta be CAREFUL

my buddy teaches high-school special ed.. specificially teaches kids who were removed from public school for behavioral issues. He's always got bruises and bite marks. At his last job, the "straw that broke the camel's back" was having a rib broken by a student that threw him against a wall. And the principal wouldn't back up the teachers. So my friend ragequit that job, but not because of the kids -- because of the administration not taking his reccomendations seriously, even after he was hospitalized.



Holy fuck. There are some admin who shouldn't be left in charge of a houseplant but you'd think a kid putting one of the teachers in the hospital would be a wake up call.

I was corrected and it was a mild group, but one of them tried to get bitey with the other sub bc he's had negative behavior reenforcement. We do not get paid enough for that shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 07, 2020, 06:17:23 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

...

Quote
One of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.

"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."

So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 07, 2020, 06:28:47 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

...

Quote
One of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.

"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."

So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.

Life is tough on dogs.

In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.

Think about that for a second.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on February 07, 2020, 06:55:24 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

...

Quote
One of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.

"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."

So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.

Life is tough on dogs.

In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.

Think about that for a second.

Mine still have balls, since they don't have access to fe-
Oh. Yeah, you're right.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 07, 2020, 07:18:53 pm
Um.

Wow.

This is so American it makes my teeth itch.

https://apnews.com/087793aca502274877c4763383c2f151

I have to just rephrase this because itís so fucking absurd.

A man is trying to barricade himself in his apartment because of a dog attack. A neighbor enters the apartment, goes ďthatís a dog attack alrightĒ, then goes to get his trusty FUCKING crossbow. He shoots a dog with his FUCKING CROSSBOW ARE YOU SHITTING ME and the bolt penetrates the dog and kills the dude who was trying to create a barricade against the dogs. Cops show up, and kill the dogs. Crossbow man realizes the person he was trying to help is dead and he killed the poor bastard.

 :aaa:

...

Quote
One of the dogs belonged to the man who died, she said. The other belonged to his girlfriend, who also lived in the home.

"My friends pets were fighting amongst themselves like they do all week, so I got them all killed - finally some peace and quiet."

So pretty much I feel like everyone was at fault in this situation, except the poor dogs.

Life is tough on dogs.

In the very best life they can enjoy, they get their balls chopped off.

Think about that for a second.

Mine still have balls, since they don't have access to fe-
Oh. Yeah, you're right.

 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 09, 2020, 02:56:31 pm
So, for a long time Iíve known about the links between gluten intolerance and autism, but my digestive issues were unresponsive to gluten reduction, so I figured it wasnít relevant to me.

Yesterday, I learned about something FRESH and EXCITING called GLUTEN ATAXIA.

The symptoms list includes things like cluster headaches, muscle spasms, neuropathies, seizures, visual disturbances, and itís worth noting the doctors Iíve seen figured I was making shit up here because I have a very weird symptom list for fitting any other bill. Gluten ataxia practically defines my problems.

After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, Iím going to try the longest gluten-free diet Iíve done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 09, 2020, 03:54:03 pm
So, for a long time Iíve known about the links between gluten intolerance and autism, but my digestive issues were unresponsive to gluten reduction, so I figured it wasnít relevant to me.

Yesterday, I learned about something FRESH and EXCITING called GLUTEN ATAXIA.

The symptoms list includes things like cluster headaches, muscle spasms, neuropathies, seizures, visual disturbances, and itís worth noting the doctors Iíve seen figured I was making shit up here because I have a very weird symptom list for fitting any other bill. Gluten ataxia practically defines my problems.

After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, Iím going to try the longest gluten-free diet Iíve done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.

I found ton of references to this on pubmed.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Hadjivassiliou%20M%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=18787912
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 09, 2020, 04:05:50 pm
After I finish the current batch of gluten-containing food I have, Iím going to try the longest gluten-free diet Iíve done, around two or three months. It turns out you can recover the nerve damage gluten ataxia gives you, but it takes a long time and you cannot cheat on it at all.
Interesting.  I hope this works out for you, and suggest that you keep a journal (you know, so that you can monitor any change in frequency of headaches and such).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 09, 2020, 11:33:12 pm
I know now that itís old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.

My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I donít know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.

The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. Theyíre consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no Iím not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 12:38:54 am
I know now that itís old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.

My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I donít know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.

The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. Theyíre consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no Iím not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.

Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 01:04:28 am
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)

Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 10, 2020, 04:51:17 am
I know now that itís old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.

My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I donít know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.

The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. Theyíre consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no Iím not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.

Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.

Every bit of this is a bad idea on every possible level. Even though the worst parts of this idea may not be immediately visible, there is more than enough bad in knowing that I am in Chicago, that the cluster headaches happen maximum three or four times a year, and that I have seizures. Oh, and that the symptom of cluster headaches is associated with an extremely probable (for me) gluten problem that Iím on my way to treating.

On top of that, Iím broke as fuck, the cops love to harass a stressed queer ANYWHERE, I have a dissociative disorder, and I need to be functional on the day to day badly enough that I cannot even begin to trust natural products with unpredictable dosages to try to microdose.

No. But I appreciate it, I guess?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 07:00:56 am
I know now that itís old news, but it was the first I had heard of it.

My cluster headache symptoms are rare enough that I donít know how much of the fact that the only two times I remember eating a ton of home made bread both involved cluster headaches is coincidence. Keeping a journal for three to four months might catch one or two clusters, on a bad year.

The neuropathies, lack of balance, muscle spasms and visual errors are all a lot more consistent. Theyíre consistent enough that I can tell good and bad days apart by holding my arm a certain way in the light, and by turning my head all the way left and looking out of the right side of my eyes (up and down lose meaning for me pretty consistently when I do that on a bad day, the world seems to oscillate between upside down and right side up, no Iím not joking). So I can just do that, and mark days off on the household calendar as good or bad.

Have you tried treating them with psilocybe mushrooms? I know they've been studied for treatment of cluster headaches. I'm not sure what the latest is on the results of the research.

Every bit of this is a bad idea on every possible level. Even though the worst parts of this idea may not be immediately visible, there is more than enough bad in knowing that I am in Chicago, that the cluster headaches happen maximum three or four times a year, and that I have seizures. Oh, and that the symptom of cluster headaches is associated with an extremely probable (for me) gluten problem that Iím on my way to treating.

On top of that, Iím broke as fuck, the cops love to harass a stressed queer ANYWHERE, I have a dissociative disorder, and I need to be functional on the day to day badly enough that I cannot even begin to trust natural products with unpredictable dosages to try to microdose.

No. But I appreciate it, I guess?

Fair enough. It was a subject I followed 10-15 years ago. Last I heard Johns Hopkins was looking into it. No Idea how that turned out. I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 10, 2020, 08:38:17 am
I mean, I didnít want to be like ďfuck you and fuck your faceĒ, hence the very last sentence. And to be clear, itís not like you were wrong: severe sufferers see a lot of improvement because it stops symptoms fairly fast and prevents the cluster from continuing for a fair while, usually long enough for it to go dormant.

Psilo is just a really, really bad idea for me, from many different financial, legal and mental health standpoints. And the cause, even if it did help, is very likely to be a symptom of something else that is easier to deal with in every way but financially (which is about equivalent). And the rarity of the clusters make it pretty much worthless to try for me, Iíd probably never have any handy when I needed it.

So like, no. But I appreciate the thought.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 10, 2020, 09:05:05 am
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)

Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.

What??
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 11:58:49 am
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)

Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.

What??

D&D session. This was describing how to blow the crystal trap off the pedastal. Unfortunately, given the phrasing....
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 12:26:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/omeguax.png)

Well that session went into the gutter at a new world record.

What??

D&D session. This was describing how to blow the crystal trap off the pedastal. Unfortunately, given the phrasing....

**Attempts to do sexy dance for crystal trap (rolls d20)**
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 12:58:10 pm
There was also this earlier, from the same person.

(https://i.imgur.com/Jb7kz5e.png)

The sad thing is she's responding perfectly appropriately to what is actually going on, it's just everyone else has filthy minds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 01:24:48 pm
I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.

Which bodes well, I guess.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 10, 2020, 02:09:27 pm
*touches crystal, is tossed into ally behind dungeon by burly eastern European bouncer* NO TOUCH
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 02:50:28 pm
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

the game has a very improvisational quality, and sometimes this doesn't jive well with the 'tactical board game' background people bring in from D&D. One of the big challenges for D&D players is recognizing the borders of what you can improvise, and the game's handling of "the fiction" (ie the things people describe, the shared visualization of the scene) as more important than the mechanics.

So, for example, we were doing this scene where the party is being attacked by giant birds. One of the characters is an immolator, basically a fire mage. A bird swoops down, and while it can't carry him off, it does manage to drag him 20 feet away from his friends. Next, the fire mage gets kicked to the ground, and the bird steps on him.

At this point, I've given the other party members a few opportunities to react to this, but they don't want to sacrifice the position they've gained on the other giant bird, so they leave the fire mage alone.

I tell the Immolator, "you're on the ground and the bird's head is about eight feet up in the air above you. The giant foot is on your chest/waist, and the bird is about to start pecking you -- what do you do?"

Other people have been in that situation, and they tend to say "I roll to the side" (at which point I let them roll a Defy Danger check using dexterity), or "I push the bird off me" (Defy Danger using strength). The fire mage says "I take it! I headbutt the bird's beak as it pecks me"

This doesn't seem like it makes sense to me -- it's like trying to block a spear using your chest. You're basically just describing how you get hit. Meanwhile, the fire mage has an ability where, when they get damage, they can immediately summon a flaming weapon -- and he's used that a few times before, so I figured he was trying to pull a fire knife or something so he could slice his way free of the bird. So I confirm, "If you just headbutt the bird that's pecking you, you're not avoiding danger, you're going to take damage." there's some kind of missed connection here, he's not getting that I'm telling him that this move isn't going to work. So he says he does it anyway, and I roll damage, and he gets really upset.  But a real sharp kind of upset, where he's suddenly mad at me personally and begins throwing shade on the game and dropping fuck this's at me and the other players.

We kinda circle around this for a while, and the missed connection is that he thought he could roll Defy Danger using constitution (his 'good stat') to "endure" the attack. I clarify that rolling a Con check is more about things like - how long can you hold your breath? Can you still fight while poisoned? Can you force your way through the sandstorm? Can you finish casting your spell while distracted by pain? It's not meant to be "every time you get hit you can just roll a con check and not take any damage". The player then says that HE WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS and that I'm shutting down his role play and railroading him. And that I've removed all agency from his roleplay by putting him in a situation he can't escape from.

Another player tells him "all you had to do was say 'I try to dodge'." The fire mage says that his character would never do that.

Huh, wait, he's saying his character would never attempt to dodge anything...? "Yeah," he says, "I have a -1 to dex rolls, so it's impossible, I wouldn't even try."

"Dude," says another player, "you just have to roll a 7 using 2d6-1. It's not impossible." This logic doesn't work, and the fire mage says that the reason we play roleplaying games is to do the things our characters specialize in, and by denying his con check, I'm railroading him into failure. I'm kinda baffled by this point and say that not every tool works in every situation - you can't solve every problem with a Con check. And that part of my job as GM is to put you in tough situations where you have to do things you're not necessarily good at.

There's a lot more blah blah blah but ultimately I let him just roll a fuckin con check so we could get through the scene. He kinda alienated the other people at the table, too.


so we're playing again tonight -- I am hoping that a week later, he's got a better attitude about the game



Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 03:00:31 pm
My character is a dumbass who likes getting hurt.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 10, 2020, 03:07:10 pm
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...

Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?

Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.

FeelsWeird man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 03:12:24 pm
Yeah, if the DM has an adventurer character in the party, and that character does stuff other than give cryptic advice and mislead you, that's a big warning sign.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 03:15:26 pm
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...

Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?

Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.

FeelsWeird man.

DM's Old Character is a trope that describes how about 20% of all DMs fail at the expense of the players.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 03:16:37 pm
Yeah, if the DM has an adventurer character in the party, and that character does stuff other than give cryptic advice and mislead you, that's a big warning sign.

Some of my advice isn't misleading.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on February 10, 2020, 03:19:45 pm
From my admittedly limited experience with D&D, it sounds like no one really wanted to be DM for DM's sake, they all wanted to be PCs.

So you end up with a reluctant DM who still wants to be part of the adventure party.

From what I can tell, they're two very distinct roles, and DM isn't something you can half ass.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 03:28:01 pm
We kinda have a rotating DM role, that's open to those who want to do it.

However, it's based on the understanding that the DM will focus on DMing and so stand back from the combat or whatever. For example, our last adventure had us bravely navigating a ruin (so we could murder a man, for the price on his head). As In Character I'm the group leader anyway, I set the background for the contract, the location we are going to and so on.

Then I spent about 2 hours coming up with traps that could be disarmed by the people present, if they applied their skills correctly, and backup methods of disabling them if they fucked it up. Precisely one trap could be disarmed by myself (and that was only as a backup, due to similar skill overlap), the rest all gave someone else in the group, even the muscle, something to do in order to progress the story along. So the mages, rogues, elves etc all had a part to play. I basically stood to the side and helped with some occasional heavy lifting of stonework.

I then murdered the target in the cold blood, since I'd done nothing up until that point, but it was pretty clear the target was not a skilled combatant of any kind, up against a hardened mercenary, so I feel like this wasn't too gratuitous. Then we robbed his corpse and everyone got paid.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 03:58:02 pm
With a rotating-DM, that makes sense - it's only cheap if the DM's PC grabs the spotlight.

To explain why a character is there but isn't doing anything useful, my group uses this handwave we call "Dancing ineffectively in the background" -- like in the old Adam West Batman, a few people would be fighting, and a bunch of goons would be standing in the background snapping their fingers to the soundtrack but not doing anything helpful. If your character should be with the party, but you're not physically there, or it would be cheap for you to participate (ie, you're the DM), that's most of what you're doing.

Kinda similar:
In Larps, we call it "monsterbaiting" -- when the NPC solves the problem for the PCs, or when a scene is just two NPCs talking to each other.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 10, 2020, 04:22:40 pm
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose.  Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.

I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes.  Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 10, 2020, 04:44:35 pm
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose.  Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.

I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes.  Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.

ANY of that could have worked! Throwing something over its eyes is a great idea

If he had said something like "I shield my face using my arms" I might have been persuaded that this was a Constitution check.


Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 05:00:39 pm
I wouldn't try to use my head to block the attack of a pissed-off robin, let alone a crow, or a goose.  Giant carnivorous monster birds would be right out.

I would deflect the attack with something, anything (better even to lose an arm than a head), then go for the eyes.  Throwing a cape or a blanket over its head might gain a couple seconds.

ANY of that could have worked! Throwing something over its eyes is a great idea

If he had said something like "I shield my face using my arms" I might have been persuaded that this was a Constitution check.

Someone has to be the spooky pile of bones in the dungeon.  It's usually people that try to headbutt an ax beak or bullrush a gelatinous cube or something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on February 10, 2020, 07:48:04 pm
I knew a few people online who were self-medicating with it, but I've since lost touch with those people.

Which bodes well, I guess.

I guess, except for the one who got the attention of Johns Hopkins in the first place, "pinksharkmark". He passed away a few years ago.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2020, 01:00:47 am
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.

Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.

Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?

If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.

I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 03:08:56 am
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.

Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.

Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?

If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.

I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.

If I can ever remember my password for Scrubgenius, I'll put it up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2020, 03:39:15 am
So fb reminded me of a meme I made out of a dream about 3 years ago and apparently posted and forgot.

Not sure what make of it. Hoping for some feedback here.

Howl would you be willing to bring this before the Subgenii and see what they make of it?

If you will and they ask who wrote it just say a guy you know goes by T. W. Joseph.

I release all rights to it other than that attribution, which is unnecessary, but would like you to please otherwise KYFMS about me except in the most general sense.

If I can ever remember my password for Scrubgenius, I'll put it up.
Thanks man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on February 11, 2020, 06:10:42 am
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...

Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?

Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.

FeelsWeird man.

It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts.  I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to.  No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 11, 2020, 06:16:09 am
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...

Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?

Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.

FeelsWeird man.

It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts.  I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to.  No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.

I guess building a Berserker woulda been fun, if only I had known how things were gonna be, cause i built a Rogue.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on February 11, 2020, 06:23:49 am
last week, I had my first super annoying Dungeon World experience...

I once was getting into D&D, but the one experience I had just offput me to the whole thing...

Like the GM was also simultaneously a player, and "for some reason" his Paladin character had an overstated armor that made him practically invulnerable which was just so ZZZ and a blatant type of plot armor... like, the situations were fun and the scenarios and story seemed to have work put into them, but i just couldnt get over the fact that we were never in any kind of real danger of a possible party wipe scenario, which basicly meant that all of our agency was null and void... like i hypothetically could literally run it down and "play to lose" and we would win either way, so whats the fucking point?

Sure, there's the development of the story or ample range to goof off, but i felt that for the party it was a Disney theme park ride while were having our hand held at every step by the Paladin that has this weird omnipotent and paternal fantasy going on.

FeelsWeird man.

It sounds like you could have used that to play the reckless suicidal sorts.  I always had a no death (without choice) safety net in the long running game I had, it just let people play the way they wanted to.  No permdeath anyways, there's a lot of magical ways to get around it.

I guess building a Berserker woulda been fun, if only I had known how things were gonna be, cause i built a Rogue.

I tend to like playing rogues as suicide bombers.  If I know I can detonate more than once at least.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 11, 2020, 09:24:20 am

Joe Biden Jokes With Voter: 'You're A Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier' | NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs)

It's funny how all your presidential candidates have varying degrees of dementia and degeneracy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2020, 12:16:09 pm
It's like the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s, when all the contenders for leadership were either insane or napped 18 hours a day because they were 90 and on life support.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 11, 2020, 12:57:34 pm
It's like the Soviet Union in the late 70s and early 80s, when all the contenders for leadership were either insane or napped 18 hours a day because they were 90 and on life support.
These are the people who are supposed to defeat Trump.  :|
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2020, 01:22:42 pm
The polls suggest literally any of them could.

However, the polls do not take into account the 18+ month hacking, foreign assistance-empowered smear campaign that is about to come down on whoever the candidate is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 01:57:52 pm

Joe Biden Jokes With Voter: 'You're A Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier' | NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsxA5qjUjs)

It's funny how all your presidential candidates have varying degrees of dementia and degeneracy.

Well, that's not a coincidence.  Our entire country has always been demented, and it hasn't gotten better, just different.

Only now it's not even different.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:45:12 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 11, 2020, 07:49:34 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. Iím in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.

Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of ďoh, everything I thought was wrong with me isnít, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire lifeĒ. Iíve got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:54:44 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

Given that date, will you want fresh material?   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:55:23 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. Iím in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.

Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of ďoh, everything I thought was wrong with me isnít, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire lifeĒ. Iíve got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!

Magic as the art of being open to weird shit happening around you is something I'd like to get more of in this edition and have absolutely nothing for right now. I can cite some examples of the phenomenon but I just don't have a coherent narrative.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:57:00 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

If you need more material to fill gaps or something, give me prompts. Iím in a writing mood but have nowhere to focus that energy currently.

Also, this seems to be starting off as the year of ďoh, everything I thought was wrong with me isnít, and the main problem is something else. Time to rethink my entire lifeĒ. Iíve got multiple things like that myself. Good luck in getting it dealt with!

Magic as the art of being open to weird shit happening around you is something I'd like to get more of in this edition and have absolutely nothing for right now. I can cite some examples of the phenomenon but I just don't have a coherent narrative.

I think I might have something stashed away.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:57:24 pm
I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 11, 2020, 07:58:15 pm
I actually have a couple quick anecdotes for this. I think the best one is the More Water Than You Really Wanted Incident. Give me some time to frame them, I can get something put together.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2020, 07:58:45 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

Given that date, will you want fresh material?   :lulz:

I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.

I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.

That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 07:59:27 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

Given that date, will you want fresh material?   :lulz:

I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.

I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.

That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.

No so different.  Let me dig up my notes on the box at home and zap you a rough draft.

ETA:  You take care of you.  This can wait until you're ready.  I'm just going to write it sooner rather than later, is all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 11, 2020, 08:20:35 pm
Here's a question you've never asked:

How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space


And the answer is:

VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 11, 2020, 08:42:43 pm
Sup nerds? Depression's been eating me alive and my therapist has finally convinced me that ADHD is probably the underlying issue, so now I gotta unpack all this shit I had NEATLY ON MY MENTAL SHELF GODDESS DAMN IT.

starting prep work on Holy Nonsense 2020. Aiming for a November release for the lulz.

Given that date, will you want fresh material?   :lulz:

I'm always here for new stuff! Can't promise on a given day I'll have the energy or things will click properly, but I'm doing my best.

I think it's the "Sometimes magic is BAD FOR YOU" thing.

That's a different thing than what I was describing but I am ALSO interested in this.

No so different.  Let me dig up my notes on the box at home and zap you a rough draft.

ETA:  You take care of you.  This can wait until you're ready.  I'm just going to write it sooner rather than later, is all.

Yeah, my story is definitely ďMagic is sometimes bad for youĒ. Itís kind of like Carrie, but with coffee instead of blood and fire.

First draft written now, Iím going to get angry at it for a couple days then totally rewrite it. Itís pretty boring prose right now except for the use of a different synonym for ďdeviceĒ EVERY SINGLE TIME, which Iím proud of.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2020, 09:15:10 pm
Q. G.
O
Q. G.
I am so
Very
Very
Glad
To see
That you be
Ready
And
Not Dead Yet!

When I get time I will put my noodle to this "magic" business folks get so aon about.

Here's how I feel.
 :zombie:
I am On Fire.
And I feel like I will burn Eternally,
Yet nobody can see
I'm contained.
A reaction
My being in
Unstoppable conflagration
Internally.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 11, 2020, 10:45:50 pm
Here's a question you've never asked:

How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space


And the answer is:

VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit

"Bondage in Space": Not what we wanted, but what we deserve.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2020, 10:51:38 pm
Not what we wanted

Says you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2020, 11:20:46 pm
Not what we wanted

Yeah, I'm good with this, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Don Coyote on February 12, 2020, 01:09:44 am
Here's a question you've never asked:

How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space


And the answer is:

VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit

Oh neat
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: PinkTiefling on February 12, 2020, 01:50:50 am
I mean, we can start Fight Club but I forgot the rules...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on February 12, 2020, 12:45:35 pm
Here's a question you've never asked:

How do people have sex in microgravity? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_in_space


And the answer is:

VELCRO - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2suit

Doesn't have to be used in microgravity, just saying.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on February 12, 2020, 04:49:50 pm
I'm much more intrigued by the possibility of masturbating in space and floating the sperm bubble out of the airlock. That gotta be a form of immortality.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 05:08:53 pm
I'm much more intrigued by the possibility of masturbating in space and floating the sperm bubble out of the airlock. That gotta be a form of immortality.

 :|
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 12, 2020, 05:14:37 pm
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)

no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 05:22:38 pm
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)

no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001

Every time I remember David Bowman's transformation, I am further enraged by his failure to anything COOL that his new capabilities gave him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on February 12, 2020, 06:08:36 pm
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)

no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Not necessarily. To my knowledge you need also someone letting their period bubble out of airlock and an Infinite Improbability Drive.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 12, 2020, 06:10:01 pm
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmuAc.jpg)

no no no, that's how you get the space baby from 2001
Not necessarily. To my knowledge you need also someone letting their period bubble out of airlock and an Infinite Improbability Drive.

I must have had the censured version, in mine it was a bowl of petunias and a whale
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 06:28:44 pm
Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean".   :lulz:

PT Barnum was an optimist.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on February 13, 2020, 04:26:50 am
Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean".   :lulz:

PT Barnum was an optimist.

Man, the best way to know if a fish is really fresh is if its parasites are still alive.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 13, 2020, 04:32:56 am
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Today I saw an ad for wild-caught fish as "eating clean".   :lulz:

PT Barnum was an optimist.

Man, the best way to know if a fish is really fresh is if its parasites are still alive.
[/quote]

My favourite "fresh, wild and clean" fish are the ones where the plastic bag I'll use to transport it, is already included inside of its stomach.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 13, 2020, 07:14:17 am
Iíve eaten wild caught fish from the Allegheny as a kid.

Let me just say, crappie is a misnomer. Fucking delicious.

Let me also say that I am absolutely certain some of my later developmental damage had something to do with that fish, delicious as it was.

I mean. Come on. The fucking Allegheny.

The only way it could have been worse is fishing in the Connequenessing. Then again, fishing there you probably would need to use a spare tire as a sinker and steel cable to prevent the line from dissolving on contact.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on February 13, 2020, 09:14:51 am
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2020, 02:01:19 pm
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.

POINT COMPLETELY MISSED.    :mind ray:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 13, 2020, 09:55:58 pm
Eighth and ninth grade are the rates we survive through the foreberence of others, is2g.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on February 13, 2020, 11:33:27 pm
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.

POINT COMPLETELY MISSED.    :mind ray:
The sharp ones know better.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2020, 11:40:32 pm
Yes, fresh fish. Met this sushi shokunin from Vegas, he liked to serve his lobsters alive, turned so they could see themselves being eaten.

POINT COMPLETELY MISSED.    :mind ray:
The sharp ones know better.

Eat shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 14, 2020, 12:26:52 pm

Official statement by Australia's government regarding the bushfires:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 14, 2020, 02:15:50 pm
In Berlin for a couple of days, forgot how much I like this city
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2020, 02:39:00 pm

Official statement by Australia's government regarding the bushfires:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BmbvTvFQ3g)

That was amazing.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2020, 02:43:40 pm
Anything that references that fucking tourism ad gets my seal of approval. That was just taking the piss.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 16, 2020, 05:56:23 pm
I hate it when I fail to translate knowledge to practice.

So, I'm getting an oil change, and the guy asks if I want my lights checked.  Blink the high beams, signal left, tap the brakes, etc.  Then he tells me my license-plate light is out.

This strikes me as a little odd, since my headlights weren't on.  But I explain this to myself as "I-guess-the-license-plate-light-must-supposed-to-be-always-on-and-he-sees-a-lot-more-cars-than-I-do-so-I-he-must-know-what-he-is-talking-about."

The cost is $17 installed, so I tell him not to bother.

Yesterday, I'm going out for errands, so I figure I'll drop by Canadian Tire and get a new bulb. I'll remove the old one first, so I have something to match against.  It's -20 C, and I spend five minutes freezing my hands while trying to remove the fixture, before I check youtube and discover I can pop out the lens in about five seconds with a screwdriver.  Duh.

Then, because OCD, I check the bulb filament.  But I can't find the break.  I turn it over, shake it to make the coil wiggle, but nope.  There's no darkening of the glass, and I can't find the break.

So I plug the bulb back in, turn on the car lights, go back around to check, and there's nothing wrong with the bloody thing.


How I fucked up:
1.)  When I noticed an oddity, I rationalized it away, instead of flagging it.  The 'lesswrong' site's mantra for this is "I notice I am confused."
2.)  When someone reported a problem, I believed them, instead of spending five seconds checking it myself.  Even if I believed the light was off when he looked at it, I shouldn't have accepted the conclusion that this meant the bulb had burnt out.  I should absolutely have checked the bulb before spending time removing it.

Detecting these sort of trivial mental errors is a significant part of what allows to function at my job, so why did I botch this in real life?

And what else am I screwing up, right now?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2020, 10:53:46 am
So, DM plotting question incoming.

The basic premise of the "main story" that I'm running is that our mercenary company managed to stumble into a covert military operation gone off the rails. Think 1960s CIA, but with less drugs and more necromancy, and you're roughly in the right area. To find out just how deep the shit they are in is, they're going to the capital to meet with a spy. The idea here is pretty simple, the spy himself isn't high-ranking enough to be read into these kind of operations, but his boss is. If the PCs help him by doing stuff to make his boss look good, they get access to some files and some names they can follow up on for the next leg of the adventure.

My initial thinking was to have the PCs hunt down an assassin in the city. This seems like the kind of thing a spy would be involved with, it's politically neutral (important, given the composition and employment history of most of our group) and it could be fun: I can make up a few different leads and see how the group goes from there.

However, they are a mercenary company. And this is the capital. While this isn't a huge amount of distance for them to travel (about a day by boat), there are considerations there about picking up contacts and contracts. So I'm thinking I should maybe do something more extensive while they're there, so they can capitalise on being in the city for maybe a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days and have a proper deployment to this crucial area. Obviously I could complicate the above story, or just throw more contracts at them, but I've had them doing a lot of investigative and exploration stuff recently, so I'm thinking that I want to do something more fighty. The problem is what however. I was wondering if perhaps they might need to rescue an informant to discover the assassination plot in the first place (said informant being held by bandits or something outside the city), but I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else also had some good ideas.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 17, 2020, 12:18:19 pm
So, DM plotting question incoming.

Something, something, Russians. Something something competing or confrontational agencies that despite that are your allies so you cant just snuff them out.

And using the sewers and metro tracks as useful settings away from the public eye.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2020, 12:37:28 pm
Maybe you could open with an ambush and set to surprise combat as a series of harrying actions intended to lure them through the city and cut hard and fast deals for territorial passage or temporary harbor with various powers in the city.

Why this is happening is up to you of course, but if you're going to commit to combat don't be a tease. Instill in the players a deadly mystery and existential dread.

People like existential dread, apparently.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Adjective_Noun on February 17, 2020, 12:45:42 pm
So, DM plotting question incoming.

The basic premise of the "main story" that I'm running is that our mercenary company managed to stumble into a covert military operation gone off the rails. Think 1960s CIA, but with less drugs and more necromancy, and you're roughly in the right area. To find out just how deep the shit they are in is, they're going to the capital to meet with a spy. The idea here is pretty simple, the spy himself isn't high-ranking enough to be read into these kind of operations, but his boss is. If the PCs help him by doing stuff to make his boss look good, they get access to some files and some names they can follow up on for the next leg of the adventure.

My initial thinking was to have the PCs hunt down an assassin in the city. This seems like the kind of thing a spy would be involved with, it's politically neutral (important, given the composition and employment history of most of our group) and it could be fun: I can make up a few different leads and see how the group goes from there.

However, they are a mercenary company. And this is the capital. While this isn't a huge amount of distance for them to travel (about a day by boat), there are considerations there about picking up contacts and contracts. So I'm thinking I should maybe do something more extensive while they're there, so they can capitalise on being in the city for maybe a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days and have a proper deployment to this crucial area. Obviously I could complicate the above story, or just throw more contracts at them, but I've had them doing a lot of investigative and exploration stuff recently, so I'm thinking that I want to do something more fighty. The problem is what however. I was wondering if perhaps they might need to rescue an informant to discover the assassination plot in the first place (said informant being held by bandits or something outside the city), but I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else also had some good ideas.

Idea from a stranger that may or may not fit into your setting at all -
Some local unrest has reached boiling point and now people in an area of the city have taken up arms and built barricades, hoping to force the authorities to make some changes. The authorities are preparing to storm the barricades, of course, but they're worried that an influential ringleader or figurehead will escape in the action. Capturing the target alive would be a political coup and win some/all of the influence they need with the spy's boss.

The barricades would establish a clear "action area", could have a messy brawl through whatever type of buildings you've picked out. House to house, docks, industrial buildings. The rebels would be mostly weakly armed but more would be drawn to any fighting, so the group would have to move quickly. Then either take the target by surprise (extract them or hold out until the authorities retake the area?), or chase scene with whatever appropriate getaway method the target has planned. Action filled sidequest, basically. Add parkour opportunities, crazy improvised weapons, human shields and moral dilemmas to taste.

If you want more spy stuff after that, they could handle some interrogations to identify ringleaders from a group of captured rebels, or run a witch hunt to find sympathisers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 17, 2020, 02:56:55 pm
The assassin is currently posing as a minor functionary in a heavily defended compound associated with $foreign_country, waiting for the heat to subside before making his next move.

The spy has discovered the identity of the assassin, but can't get at him; he needs a major distraction in order to flush him out.  He wants the mercenary company to do this.  The mercenary company does not have enough firepower to take out the whole compound, but they need to convince the assassin that a major attack is in progress, and that he's no longer safe there.

Of course, your company will have made a powerful enemy in the process...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 17, 2020, 11:18:16 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/iYmuMJIP3vzIJFvpS3/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 17, 2020, 11:41:55 pm
How about a mission where they have to extract the double agent, but make it seem (to the group he's embedded in) that he was killed in action.

So the PCs have to fight a group of enemies, but for the scenario to be a victory, two conditions need to occur:

1. They have to identify which one of the enemies is the double agent (he's wearing some signal you might need to use a Perception or Insight check to pick out in combat), and then knock him out using nonlethal damage

2. Someone needs to tell the Boss that the Double Agent is dead. Which means the PCs have to allow at least one of the enemies to escape.


if you want to add an extra dramatic complication:

The guy running away from the fight, the one who they need to let get away -- he is also being chased by a city guard or vigilante or something... if the PCs don't intervene, someone else will capture / kill the guy. So the PCs need to take out the pursuer without being noticed, as well.

"You can tell the two of them are headed towards the marketplace, and you know a shortcut to get there..."

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2020, 04:02:40 am
Interesting ideas! Thanks everyone.

Not sure what I'll do yet, but you've definitely given me some things to work with.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2020, 07:23:36 pm
This is another reason people are stupid.

https://apnews.com/a2d312755662ca7c7b5f0bb49dfe8633
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2020, 08:36:13 pm
I specifically got a Chinese takeaway last Friday, just to do a bit to support a good company.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on February 18, 2020, 08:37:42 pm
Same.  There's a really popular dumpling house here, with lines for a seat out the door.  I was able to stroll in and gorge myself last weekend.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2020, 08:38:30 pm
Guilt by association is not the future.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2020, 09:00:13 pm
It is, however, the British way. Already getting Chinese people beaten up and harassed in the streets over this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2020, 09:06:21 pm
It is, however, the British way. Already getting Chinese people beaten up and harassed in the streets over this.

Well, yeah.  I was there often enough to get a look at the ugly side.  Which usually involved the phrase "it stands to reason" when it patently doesn't stand to reason.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 19, 2020, 05:15:25 pm
Some people will take any excuse at all to be fucking horrible.


On a lighter note, I'm really proud of one of my students.
I've known him for about three years now and he's always been one of my favorites. I've really worried about him and the choices he was making for about a year. But! Little dude moved schools and says he's happier and doing much better here. He's actually doing his work and he's calmed down a lot, which is great bc he was very wild in middle school unless you knew how to handle him. Moments like this make it all worth it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 22, 2020, 09:51:30 am
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:

In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!




* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on February 22, 2020, 11:35:23 am
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:

Corona virus is a bioweapon, either used against them or it escaped their own labs :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2020, 11:42:26 am
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:

In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!




* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)

That is awesome! I am myself intent on forming a nonprofit, which I assert may be a better engine for retaining value while still getting... Compensated. As a board member you generally don't catch a salary or wage as such, but can definitely write the bylaws in such a way that you are able to pay your living expenses and otherwise play around with various financial instruments and assets such that you always have cash ready to spend on anything in the company interest, which if your mission statement is broad enough can be almost anything. Nonprofits can conduct business such as entering contract,  like, say,  an artistic commission, and ALSO solicit donation among other things. And if you do and maintain the paperwork and accounting correctly

It. Is. All. Tax. Free.

My five favorite little words.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 22, 2020, 12:42:48 pm
On a conspiracy theory note, aren't you guys in the process of losing a deathmatch with china over ownership of the global economy? :tinfoilhat:

In other news. I am now owner director of a brand, shiny new VFX production company. Our* first gig is providing ultra-realistic renders of A-list Celebrities in various stages of plastic surgery for a TV documentary so no pressure. Luckily we're* working with an awesome sculptor who's handling the likenesses. We're* responsible for Hair simulation and grooming, skin texturing and delivering final renders for production. Super stoked and super shitting myself in equal measure. It's like a slow burn, mellow adrenaline rush. I'll take it!




* I'm an LLC now so I'll be mostly using the royal "We" from here in 8)

That is awesome! I am myself intent on forming a nonprofit, which I assert may be a better engine for retaining value while still getting... Compensated. As a board member you generally don't catch a salary or wage as such, but can definitely write the bylaws in such a way that you are able to pay your living expenses and otherwise play around with various financial instruments and assets such that you always have cash ready to spend on anything in the company interest, which if your mission statement is broad enough can be almost anything. Nonprofits can conduct business such as entering contract,  like, say,  an artistic commission, and ALSO solicit donation among other things. And if you do and maintain the paperwork and accounting correctly

It. Is. All. Tax. Free.

My five favorite little words.

It's worth mentioning that the IRS *loves* auditing nonprofits, as they view all of them as money laundering outfits.  All of them.  They know some haven't gotten around to being guilty yet, but will soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2020, 12:57:03 pm
And indeed the Treasury takes a special interest in nonprofits as a possible vector for terrorist financing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2020, 02:25:09 pm
Yeah. I am aware of both points guys. I very much thank you both for pointing them out anyway. One of my best friends is engaged to a forensic accountant who is also a very GOOD person. They will be my game master for the books if they takes me up on my offer. I want to be SO CLEAN that my books glow with a radiant light of holiness, but I will fight them for every single little disclosure like I was hiding the global sum of all "dark money" citing the privacy of my donors and other business partners. They will also help me to exploit every LEGAL loophole that I can fully and check me when I get some crazy scheme in my head, of which I already have several. This accountant will eventually lead a team of forensic accountants for... Assessment of possible acquisitions.

Lawyers will be my equivalent of Rome's Praetorian Guard. They will protect the company, its personnel, and assets as well as function as the Company enforcers. I will use certain lists that have recently come to my attention thanks to my favorite shadow person. They must be deeply ethical people who will fight to the very last appeal.

I intend to openly reach out to various other nonprofits, say BACA and The Hell's Angels or various NGO corps into prevention and exfiltration of people being trafficked as chattel, and offer them some VERY interesting assets in exchange for informal alliance and info sharing. If I need something legally nebulous done they may be able where I cannot take such a risk. I ultimately seek UN recognized NGO status as well for legal and financial reasons.

I will also inevitably require physical security personnel and assets. I know ninjas. That's not a joke. I probably shouldn't say more than that.

Infosec will likewise not be a problem.

I may even, for the lulz, have a branch for "spiritual security" once the company has fuck-you money. This will not be a waste because employing such people will get me close to THEIR centers of power.

I have, long ago, SWORN to do great things to help Haiti, and I know just the right people to approach and if necessary... Kinetically Influence to ensure that all investments there help the people, children especially. I swore it to The Kids. If you don't understand why I capitalized that then I think you could afford some study of Afro-Carribian religious practices.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 22, 2020, 02:25:23 pm
yoooooo, that's so cool that you're sculpts are gonna be on TV!

I remember when you were just starting out... -- all it takes is a shitload of effort over time? you make it look easy
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2020, 07:51:21 am
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.

I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2020, 07:52:06 am
Also congrats to P3nt! Let us know when the documentary is out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 24, 2020, 08:56:47 am
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.

I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Yeah, and they have become less frequent too, when we take out the new domains they seem slow to set up new ones
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2020, 02:32:24 pm
Just FYI, for the admins, we seem to be getting quite a few fresh spambots lately, ones that haven't signed up much of anywhere else and so aren't quite as obvious as they usually are.

I think that, if anything, is a sign that our banning campaign is working.
Yeah, and they have become less frequent too, when we take out the new domains they seem slow to set up new ones

We are very small potatoes.  They will not try to alter their routines so long as they are getting results in other places.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 24, 2020, 03:26:03 pm
Found this while going through my writings. Thought maybe Q. G. Might perhaps find it print worthy.

Everyone says that they want to be "A God" or even "The God", but nobody really wants to bear all of consciousness eternally.

Nut up or shut up, so to speak. Nothing is in fact the only thing vast enough to bear the burden of God in splitting Its consciousness, and so God dwells in nothing, and so you get to have a temporary sense of somethingness. Do not vainly seek reunion, which will happen no matter what you do in time, but enjoy the gift you have been given at the greatest of costs, for while it is an expression of nothing, from nothingness, it is the only thing you can be said truly have in any meaningful sense, which may not be much, but it's something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 26, 2020, 01:39:57 am
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: itís bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.

Given the latest is sliding to an end, let me tell you about a job I might have landed: data security company needs remote working internal helldesk specialist.

Why am I so confident without even an interview yet?

I might be getting this from a friendís mother. Who asked specifically for my resume. Who is extremely interested in my background. Who heard about one of my best friends and stopped speaking English for a few seconds. (Hi QGPís husband!!)

So I might be shooting out of Chicago to NYC for a couple weeks soon here for training. Paid for: food, transit, hotel room. Including transit back to Chicago.

I do my best work remotely and my laptop works again. I have a strictly hobbyist background in data security (itís a fun puzzle: how to irritate and frustrate attackers without imposing burdens on users) and I do a lot of unpaid IT work for friends who need computers rebuilt and debugged and stuff. I have helped people configure their routers remotely, without any page to go on but the Google image search results for ďsite:setuprouter.org <router model>Ē. (Oh, right: I DID THAT FOR FUN. I was told afterwards NOT to do it because it wasnít our problem. I did it again anyway because it wasnít against policy and I enjoyed myself.) I am patient with the tech illiterate to an extreme degree, and pleasant to a fault with people I talk to.

I got this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2020, 02:12:51 am
Fuckin' awesome altered! Hope things work out marvelously!

You know I live just an hour or so north of Chicago. Perhaps some time when youget back we could meet up! You would be the first Discordian that I know of that I meet in the IRL.

Over time I hope to meet quite a few.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 26, 2020, 02:48:44 am
Yay, Altered! That's good news! Break a leg.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on February 26, 2020, 01:27:42 pm
Great news!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 26, 2020, 01:52:17 pm
Yeah, good luck! And if you end up in NYC for training, shoot me a line--it would be rad to meet in person!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 26, 2020, 01:57:00 pm
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: itís bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.


It's not annoying, if that's one of your concerns.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on February 26, 2020, 02:42:30 pm
It is annoying, just not to some people. For others it isnít just annoying: itís frustrating, infuriating or depressing. It brings people stress by way of empathy, which is just rude to do. People who ended up helping me later have had to leave servers I was on or block me temporarily because of the intersection of ďthis is constantly horribleĒ and ďthere is nothing I can doĒ.

If I donít need the help or the vent, thereís no value in doing it. Sticking by that here helps me keep up with it elsewhere.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on February 26, 2020, 02:50:59 pm
If you do feel the need to vent, you can PM me without caution.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2020, 02:55:11 pm
So I try not to keep everyone up to date on my latest bout of misfortune: itís bad luck to tell everyone how miserable you are, for one thing.


It's not annoying, if that's one of your concerns.

Seconded
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 26, 2020, 07:11:39 pm
Got a linkedin "Take time to acknowledge your coworker Clive on working together for four years" notification. Clive died two years ago. Here's a drink to you Clive.

But it does creep me out the digital ghosts haunting the place. It reminded me of Aaron the Moore's monologue from Titus Andronicus

Quote
Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves,
And set them upright at their dear friends' doors,
Even when their sorrows almost were forgot;
And on their skins, as on the bark of trees,
Have with my knife carved in Roman letters,
'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'

But really that would be more of a facebook thing to do maliciously, linkedin are not that organized or competent
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 26, 2020, 09:04:11 pm
Got a linkedin "Take time to acknowledge your coworker Clive on working together for four years" notification. Clive died two years ago. Here's a drink to you Clive.

But it does creep me out the digital ghosts haunting the place. It reminded me of Aaron the Moore's monologue from Titus Andronicus

Quote
Oft have I digg'd up dead men from their graves,
And set them upright at their dear friends' doors,
Even when their sorrows almost were forgot;
And on their skins, as on the bark of trees,
Have with my knife carved in Roman letters,
'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'

But really that would be more of a facebook thing to do maliciously, linkedin are not that organized or competent

You can actually use social media to track the point at which someone died.  It's fucking creepy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2020, 11:16:45 pm
I just found out that my brother's dog, but he has recently been like mine too, is dying of..


Wait for it...


 :rimshot: FUCKING CANCER!


This dog, his name is Chopper, saved my brother, his then fiancee, and my dad from a fire at the family home I grew up in. He set to barking like mad and my brother woke, pulled his strap thinking home invasion like he do, and then he discovered that the entire integrated garage was consumed by flames. Dad had a lot of stuff in there. The kind with open flame warnings and or high pressure.

Long story short everyone got out alive and largely unharmed. My Dad strutted out like a goddamn Daimyo. Unhurried, and undisturbed. He has... a very meaningful level of True Faith. He doesn't rattle.

They could well have asphyxiated or worse if not for this dog. He is a very good boy.
  :cry:

Boy the hits just keep on coming.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 05:55:17 pm
So, California has its first secondary coronavirus patient, who hasn't been out of the country and who has had no contact with other known patients.

Given a 14 day incubation period, that means that an unknown but large number of people have been exposed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2020, 05:59:06 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:06:58 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 27, 2020, 07:13:48 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
This is just a side gig.  She's focussed on preparing for the main show (climate change), which I promise will be much more kinetic.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:18:14 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.
This is just a side gig.  She's focussed on preparing for the main show (climate change), which I promise will be much more kinetic.

Um, that's BEEN going on, and it's NOT kinetic.  It is instead a dismally-slow process that simply reduces everyone's standard of living, as usual from the bottom up.

You may have noticed the wildfires and floods.  You may have noticed that we don't fix anything afterwards, anymore.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2020, 07:20:36 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.

I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 27, 2020, 07:26:21 pm
Um, that's BEEN going on, and it's NOT kinetic.  It is instead a dismally-slow process that simply reduces everyone's standard of living, as usual from the bottom up.

You may have noticed the wildfires and floods.  You may have noticed that we don't fix anything afterwards, anymore.
I dunno, I consider floods to be plenty kinetic.
Hurricanes, too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:26:56 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.

I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.

The first wave, sure.

The second wave had a death rate of 20%.  50 million dumbass primates ejected.

This virus weighs in at a wimpy 3%.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 27, 2020, 07:48:11 pm
I'm hearing that it's a lot more widespread here than anyone has been willing to acknowledge and has been for a couple weeks at least.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2020, 09:29:42 pm
Oh yeah, it's probably in the midwest by now.

I would be a lot happier about all of this if it wasn't just half as deadly as this year's flu.

It's like mother nature is just mailing it in.

I don't know, it's 1918 Spanish Flu levels of destruction. Not exactly Captain Trips, but that's a respectable 1.7% of the global population.

The first wave, sure.

The second wave had a death rate of 20%.  50 million dumbass primates ejected.

This virus weighs in at a wimpy 3%.

I'm counting on us being dumb enough to recreate WWI-like conditions. I mean, this government has already caused a "Soviet-like" drop in life expectancy over here, so you can't really convince me that I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2020, 10:20:48 pm
Also stuff like this will help:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER0GDjNX0AEw81Z?format=png&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER0GE9CWAAIIHCD?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 10:42:44 pm
Holy shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on February 27, 2020, 11:58:47 pm
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 28, 2020, 12:17:37 am
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it

FREE THE OPEN BAR

:pax:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:10 am
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it

Who locked it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:22:32 am
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on February 28, 2020, 02:15:56 am
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
????
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 03:38:56 am
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.
????

Yep.  Straight to a violation of community standards for any of the above,  including a link to Scientific American.

I seem to have annoyed the alt-right incel cube dwellers in the FB admin boiler room.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on February 28, 2020, 05:52:54 am
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on February 28, 2020, 07:20:57 am
I think I know what the Republican plan is to solve the Social Security conundrum.

It's to let COVID-19 kill off half the population over 65.

It's funny how many problems will sort themselves out if you just don't give a shit.

Bye-bye Meemaw. Bye-bye Peepaw. Hello Brave New World.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 07:41:45 am
Should this be locked? I've unlocked it

Not to my knowledge. Not unless the bar was quarantined to contain coronavirus, and since I don't see a bunch of gormless people wandering around, putting their fingers over everything and then sticking them in their mouths (which is apparently the protocol, or might as well be), I think we're safe.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on February 28, 2020, 12:28:34 pm
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

the system is FINALLY working

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 12:58:38 pm
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

the system is FINALLY working

The natural thing to do is set up a fresh Hamish Howl page and start paying to promote posts before they realize what you're doing and sue if they try to cheat you or refuse service.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 01:44:42 pm
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=38784.msg1435861#msg1435861 date=1582869174]
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.
[/quote]

I can't post any pics at all.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 01:45:05 pm
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

the system is FINALLY working

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on February 29, 2020, 12:47:03 am
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=38784.msg1435861#msg1435861 date=1582869174]
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.

I can't post any pics at all.
[/quote]

Oh it's stuff you're sharing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on February 29, 2020, 12:48:56 am
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=38784.msg1435861#msg1435861 date=1582869174]
So, now, according to FB, any link, meme, or gif from me is spam.

Post the same picture of Zuck every hour.

I can't post any pics at all.
[/quote]

I haven't found one of zuck, but maybe sharing these?
https://www.facebook.com/samepicofdavecoulier/ (https://www.facebook.com/samepicofdavecoulier/)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2020, 05:03:59 pm
Katherine Johnson has achieved escape velocity.  :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2020, 06:12:55 pm
Just gonna stick this here so I can find it tonight to drop on a nationalist he man page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 02, 2020, 07:02:33 pm
Just gonna stick this here so I can find it tonight to drop on a nationalist he man page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c&feature=youtu.be

That was amazing and brightened up my day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 03, 2020, 07:13:18 am
Update!

Instead of helldesk, it turns out Iíll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.

No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.

And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 03, 2020, 12:25:03 pm
I'm happy for you! that sounds like a good gig!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 03, 2020, 06:37:08 pm
Update!

Instead of helldesk, it turns out Iíll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.

No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.

And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?
Yay! 🎉
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 03, 2020, 08:56:58 pm
I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.

That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.

Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 03, 2020, 09:24:18 pm
hi Suu!

yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL

like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.

The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2020, 09:24:35 pm
I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.

That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.

Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.

Nobody beats my 90 day megaban.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2020, 09:25:15 pm
hi Suu!

yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL

like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.

The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels

I get to be me without expensive dental work, though.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 03, 2020, 09:29:18 pm
hi Suu!

yeah, talking about politics on facebook is an exercise IN HELL

like, today I posted something along the lines of "imagine if we had ranked choice voting" -- that's it! out of nowhere, PD veteran Rygd immediately yelled at me to shut the fuck up because I didn't vote. (the NY primaries aren't until 4/28...) I was like.. what do you think I'm saying? don't get why you're coming at me with a knife in hand? politics makes people stupid. And all that is, like, a tiny microcosm of the big enchilada.

The noisier social media gets, the more pointless it feels

Yeah, my primary isn't until 3/17, and I'm just not in the mood to deal with the Bernie versus Warren camps on my timeline right now, plus the small clutch of Republicans that I still have around for entertainment purposes only.

I'm back on Peedee because Zuckbook was giving me political agita.

That and I've been rivalling Dok with getting thrown in jail for dropping some fresh hot troof, and the unwashed masses cannot handle.

Oh, and Jephph is up for fucking orders again, and I'm gearing up for another breakdown.

Nobody beats my 90 day megaban.   :lulz:

If I disappeared for that long, people would assume I was dead. That was impressive as fuck.

Hell, my last ban was allegedly in error, and Facebook was like, "Sorry. Cannot fix. Enjoy your vacation."

It was amazing, I had time to do laundry.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 03, 2020, 10:13:14 pm
Wasn't that for the electric eel porn?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2020, 10:56:37 pm
Wasn't that for the electric eel porn?

I got 30 for the electric eel porn, but then I made the mistake of asking for a review and an actual person looked at it and they tacked another 60 on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 02:12:20 am
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 04, 2020, 03:32:55 am
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."

WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 03:37:26 am
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."

WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS

Not surprising,  but definitely frightening for all involved parties.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 05:18:40 am
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."

WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS

Sure, NOW you want into the bunker.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 07:09:10 am
So I sez to myself, "Self, where better to go to watch the crumbling of civilization than PeeDee?" And I sez back, "Can't be any worse than anywhere else."

WE HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS

Sure, NOW you want into the bunker.   :lulz:

It's not that this is a SAFE place, it's that it's at least the type of strife I'm used to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 12:57:26 pm
IT'S DIMO YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOO

 :pukka:

I don't know why that emote is the one, but there it do
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2020, 12:59:16 pm
Hey Dimo!

Sorry about spagging in your FB feed.  This ol' Gen X-er was drunk and feeling bitter.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 04, 2020, 01:00:47 pm
Update!

Instead of helldesk, it turns out Iíll be doing data security auditing. Also it turns out this is probably a certainty now.

No one likes the auditor. But this is literally my hobby. I will have so much fun, and I will get away with being an overbearing nightmare beast on account of the user being a security defeating IDIOT 6 times of 10.

And I get to do it all while blasting brutal death metal, playing Bloodborne, and chowing down on just so much pizza. What more can you ask for?

It's all fun and games
When you plant eyes on your brain
But keep those eyes on the (encryption) keys
Data wants to be free
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 01:11:29 pm
Bartender, pour me a shot of old man juice
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 04, 2020, 04:00:41 pm
Bartender, pour me a shot of old man juice

Would you like that to be Biden or Sanders flavored?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 04:02:27 pm
make it a white and tan, please
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 04:49:18 pm
make it a white and tan, please

So, one Pence & Trump coming right up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 04, 2020, 05:20:07 pm
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 04, 2020, 05:22:09 pm
Yeah, it is.

I was thinking it was our shitty WiFi here, but itís doing it on 4G too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 04, 2020, 05:26:54 pm
Yeah, it is.

I was thinking it was our shitty WiFi here, but itís doing it on 4G too.
Same here and on multiple WiFi networks.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2020, 05:41:04 pm
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 04, 2020, 05:46:15 pm
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?
Not for me. It's been a consistent issue since I came back across multiple browsers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Dimocritus on March 04, 2020, 05:58:53 pm
Hey Dimo!

Sorry about spagging in your FB feed.  This ol' Gen X-er was drunk and feeling bitter.

It's cool mah dood. I don't think anyone is having a fun time with all this shit going on these days.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on March 04, 2020, 07:13:42 pm
Seems fine to me. Temporary blip?

Its been several weeks actually - now I resort to manually opening 2-3 forum tabs and their respective 2-3 threads in different tabs simultaneously so I dont swamp going back and forth in a single tab. Feels like some sort of bandwidth throttling, i dont know.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 08:10:01 pm
Oddly enough, it's been fast as hell for me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 04, 2020, 09:23:59 pm
No problems, here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 04, 2020, 09:36:58 pm
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2020, 10:05:06 pm
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)

You utter bastard.  :rogpipe:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 04, 2020, 10:07:19 pm
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?

Here comes the inquisition.
I'm not seeing any slow down, if you want I can take a look, if so:
How are you accessing it, phone or desktop, if phone wifi or 3g?
Are you using https or plain http? What forum theme are you using?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 04, 2020, 10:08:29 pm
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)

You utter bastard.  :rogpipe:
I think I am angrier with myself for still falling for it
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 04, 2020, 10:09:37 pm
I canít speak for Juana but...

Phone, WiFi and 4G LTE are both having the issue (I switch back and forth on occasion). HTTPS, of course, and the dark mobile theme you put together (thanks for that by the way!)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 04, 2020, 10:21:18 pm
I canít speak for Juana but...

Phone, WiFi and 4G LTE are both having the issue (I switch back and forth on occasion). HTTPS, of course, and the dark mobile theme you put together (thanks for that by the way!)

LTE speeds should be good, and wifi shoudn't be it unless you where having issues with multiple websites, though I am seeing some weird lag:
https://www.dotcom-tools.com/website-speed-test.aspx#F80EE45A864B456EAD960E8A42974AAC
Tests speeds from around the place, and I am seeing some as high as six seconds, in others 0-1 second, I'm wondering are there regional things going on, or the website itself is serving inconsistently. I'll have a look from the server side and see if there is anything going o

btw:I haven't forgotten about the contrast for the dark theme either by the way (I see it myself at work, it can be hard to read the text), will play around with it a bit more first free day I get
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 04, 2020, 11:17:21 pm
the boards' been weird for me. Load time is fine but the issue is what's loading (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/photobucket/137fz8.jpg)

 :trolling:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 05, 2020, 01:51:55 am
Update!

This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.

The word has gone out that this is done. Itís literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.

Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff Iíve been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.

Thatís a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.

The Gay Agenda: funding your friendsí trips to The Gay Bar. Iíll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 05, 2020, 06:53:09 pm
Is the forum taking a long time to load for anyone else?

Here comes the inquisition.
I'm not seeing any slow down, if you want I can take a look, if so:
How are you accessing it, phone or desktop, if phone wifi or 3g?
Are you using https or plain http? What forum theme are you using?

Lmao, all good.

- phone, desktop (Chrome and Chrome OS, if that matters), WiFi (multiple networks), and 4G.

- HTTPS across the board. The theme that is supposed to be more mobile friendly bc I'm mostly a mobile user at this point.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 06, 2020, 02:53:33 pm
Super not looking forward to any of my super expensive conferences to be cancelled because of Coronavirus.

They're still a couple months off, so I have time, at least for Kalamazoo. Oxford is a different animal since we're making an actual vacation of it, and have a crazy trip booked across Southern England.

Trying not to get my anxiety get the best of me with this, but I do need to sit down and get these papers written, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 06, 2020, 04:21:38 pm
The UK does seem to be taking the virus somewhat more seriously than the US.

While I can't guess how this will impact summer conferences, which are hugely profitable for our universities, I can say we are at least carrying out tests at a respectable rate. Not as good as South Korea (no-one is as good as South Korea) but it is at least being taken seriously by the government and NHS.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 06, 2020, 05:02:37 pm
The UK does seem to be taking the virus somewhat more seriously than the US.

While I can't guess how this will impact summer conferences, which are hugely profitable for our universities, I can say we are at least carrying out tests at a respectable rate. Not as good as South Korea (no-one is as good as South Korea) but it is at least being taken seriously by the government and NHS.

We'd like to take it seriously, but Mike Pence is trying to pray it away instead.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2020, 12:21:22 am
Update!

This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.

The word has gone out that this is done. Itís literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.

Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff Iíve been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.

Thatís a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.

The Gay Agenda: funding your friendsí trips to The Gay Bar. Iíll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.

That's great.  That's a pretty good dollar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 07, 2020, 02:48:23 am
Update!

This job is impressive. These jobs, I should say. Making more than double what I was before, whether doing what I was doing before or doing the data security auditor thing. Oh, right, I get to pick which one I want because both teams are interested in me. Actively interested. Having an inside line to the hiring process sure does make my resume more enticing.

The word has gone out that this is done. It’s literally official communication of where I want to go, and then paperwork. I have it.

Learned a bit more about the company too: VERY excited to work for them, literally doing stuff I’ve been wanting done. There are better jobs, but with my history and who I am, I have no chance of getting them. This is the best I can aim for by a fair amount, second place is looking like 20/hr and this is at least 33/hr to start, /with/ the possibility of up to 38/hr starting.

That’s a lot of money for me. I like the sound, for different reasons than standard.

The Gay Agenda: funding your friends’ trips to The Gay Bar. I’ll have to find one, but you had better believe I will.

That's great.  That's a pretty good dollar.

Yep. I have pressure from one of the roommates saying I might be on the streets before the training even starts for it all, but if I can dodge that fate I can give this roommate the double finger, take my router (“oh you want internet? Haha funny”) and get an apartment I can put my friend up in so he doesn’t have to be around roommates who want to party till 5AM and don’t care if he needs to work in the morning.

I might be nocturnal but I’m at least goddamned polite about it.


EDIT: The hunt is on for a situation from the 18th to first paycheck, because the roommate wants hard copy paperwork proof I have a job lined up, and refuses to change her mind on the date anyway? Fuck her. The only point of wanting the paperwork if she’s not going to do anything differently is to accuse my friend of lying so I don’t go to the streets, which manages to be offensive as fuck to literally everyone involved for the sake of being offensive to literally everyone. No other fucking point in asking for paperwork you will fucking ignore.

I have a special plan for her.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 10, 2020, 01:22:19 pm
I have a special plan for her.
Try not to burn bridges, unless you have no choice.  Use remotely-detonated mines, instead.  It's funnier.

Good luck.  You can do this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 10, 2020, 01:29:36 pm
I have a special plan for her.
Try not to burn bridges, unless you have no choice.  Use remotely-detonated mines, instead.  It's funnier.

Good luck.  You can do this.

This is a careful situation, because there is a lovely demon cat involved that I want ONLY the best for. For all his faults, he is one of my favorite cats in a lifetime of good cats.

This vengeance has to have devastating effect, incalculable fallout, and absolutely no unintended consequences. It will be a vengeance lovingly crafted, intricate and irreplaceable, like a Swiss watch.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 10, 2020, 06:22:28 pm
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.

This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on March 10, 2020, 08:34:04 pm
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.

This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.

I dont mean it to be taken as discouraging, but my "coming-back-to" fitness has taken me a long 5 years... but perhaps because i was more on the side of emaciation rather than overweight... the important thing is to just keep at it even if one doesnt see results, trying to keep as a goal to do 10 hours of exersice at least per month. Some months i crunch in 20 hours and I really see fast results, but I have other important things to do, 10 hours is slower progress but it isnt such a big burden.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 10, 2020, 09:46:43 pm
Well after 2 weeks or so of regular working out that is basically a light startup routine of resistance training and elliptical work I'm down 15lbs and not particularly retaining water. My trainer says that I'm in really good condition for a guy that tips the scales at 449 lbs (down from 462). I have good musculature and strong, dense ass bones with only a little structural weakness in my right shoulder.

This is just the beginning, but I'm working hard as hell and pleased with the result so far.

I dont mean it to be taken as discouraging, but my "coming-back-to" fitness has taken me a long 5 years... but perhaps because i was more on the side of emaciation rather than overweight... the important thing is to just keep at it even if one doesnt see results, trying to keep as a goal to do 10 hours of exersice at least per month. Some months i crunch in 20 hours and I really see fast results, but I have other important things to do, 10 hours is slower progress but it isnt such a big burden.

Right now my schedule is about 10 hrs per week. I lost my job recently because of certain bullshit, but have a nice part time job lined up. I intend to fill in the extra hours of my schedule with low impact exercise like elliptical and basic resistance training.

I've never known the struggle from the other end. I'm glad to hear that you've been getting better over 5 years. I intend to work a lifelong exercise regimen. For all my size and strength I am in bad cardiovascular shape and my muscles are pretty much entirely out of condition. Just going to keep at it! Hope your own struggles pay off too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 11, 2020, 06:53:37 am
I might have to write off the job offer.

I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I donít, I canít do the work so I canít get the job.

If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 12, 2020, 11:12:53 pm
Well, my district cancelled all non essential events for students and staff alike until at least April.

I might have to write off the job offer.

I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I donít, I canít do the work so I canít get the job.

If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.

I'm wishing you luck, man.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 13, 2020, 02:01:24 am
Well, my district cancelled all non essential events for students and staff alike until at least April.

I might have to write off the job offer.

I have 7 days to find a place to live until first paycheck, and if I donít, I canít do the work so I canít get the job.

If these fucking clowns ruined my only escape from a lifetime of living on the streets and couch surfing, I may self-destruct.

I'm wishing you luck, man.

As if by magic, with your wishing of luck comes SUCCESS.

Iím set! Oh yes!!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 13, 2020, 01:11:58 pm
is it working out?? can't tell if that's joy or gallows humor. Fingers are crossed into pretzels for you, altered

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 13, 2020, 04:00:09 pm
What Cram said. I'm hoping my words were magically helpful.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 13, 2020, 06:58:55 pm
They ACTUALLY WERE.

Within an hour of you sending that post I had NOT ONE but TWO places to go. Texas or Michigan so only one was an actual choice BUT! BUT!!!

No sarcasm no joke, Iím good to go!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 13, 2020, 07:06:43 pm
Kickass!! Really psyched for you!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on March 13, 2020, 07:07:40 pm
Right on.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 13, 2020, 09:51:12 pm
Iím excited for me too!



Also, and TWJ and Cram will probably get a kick out of this...

Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).

Things are already Going On. Microwave fires.  Cat food going bad for no reason (and the cats know and avoid it). Electrical disturbances that conveniently only affect her room and the kitchen (which is beside her room).

And I tell you now I have had absolutely nothing to do with this. Not in a ha-ha sense, either. I literally have been asleep for most of it and only see the aftermaths.

Sheís getting what she deserves in the most hilarious way possible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 13, 2020, 10:27:44 pm
Welp, my district is closing for the next month. At least California is offering emergency unemployment.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2020, 10:39:52 pm
That's what you get for naming things Eris.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 11:01:25 pm
Iím excited for me too!
Huzzah!

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Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).
It would be weird if you were to pray to the plant, and give it tiny offerings of compost.

Houseplants are usually planted in potting soil, which is already very high in organic matter; this makes compost a gift of questionable utility.  A better offering would be some nice silt, perhaps with a little clay mixed in (err on the sandy side if Eris is a cactus).  Eris might also enjoy some nitrogen fertilizer.

When praying to Eris, try to avoid making eye contact with meristematic tissue.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 13, 2020, 11:41:11 pm
Yaaay Altered!!!

Iím excited for me too!
Huzzah!

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Shitty roommate named her new houseplant Eris to get even with me (she knew I was a Discordian and probably thought I was fully woo-cordian and would be offended).
It would be weird if you were to pray to the plant, and give it tiny offerings of compost.

Houseplants are usually planted in potting soil, which is already very high in organic matter; this makes compost a gift of questionable utility.  A better offering would be some nice silt, perhaps with a little clay mixed in (err on the sandy side if Eris is a cactus).  Eris might also enjoy some nitrogen fertilizer.

When praying to Eris, try to avoid making eye contact with meristematic tissue.


DO IT
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 14, 2020, 12:41:44 am
The houseplant is kept out of reach, so this is a less than useful approach.

Fortunately, it also seems entirely unnecessary. Odd happenings are the new normal here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 14, 2020, 02:24:37 am
In other news, I was hungry and my friend was hungry and we have a passive aggressive thing going on where we donít use dishes because we get blamed for them being ABSOLUTELY FILTHY.

So we go to order the cheapest dinner possible: 7-11 pizza. Thatís 14 bucks for two large pizzas. Itís a steal and is surprisingly good pizza.

And 7-11ís delivery app is totally down.

There is this amazing Indian place in the area that makes HEAVENLY butter chicken curry, huge parathas, and feeds two people twice for 12 dollars. We figured theyíd be stomped due to COVID, but decided to check. Not only are they not stomped, theyíre having a sale.

Itís hard to express just how much food a paratha full of curry and rice, wrapped like a burrito, actually is. It weighs about as much as an average human infant, and requires an entire kitchen counter to assemble.

Meanwhile, shitty roommates are out of food, vegan so they canít eat our food, and munching on mini donuts. Glaring while we eat like imperial royalty.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 14, 2020, 11:41:09 am
daaaamn, you're making me hungry



You're gonna need to placate the Eris plant. You could do that with some ground beef, like a venus fly trap. Or you could put a little Kallisti apple in the soil with it. Or blood. "Feed me, Seymore". Tell your roommate that the Internet Discordians said this would end the curse. Then, don't do any of it. Then, just straight up smash a dish on the floor.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2020, 06:17:04 pm
So, my family did a genealogy DNA test thingy. Some things were pretty expected with the results, but there were a few surprises:

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Irish Scots & Welsh            = 41%
English                            =25.7%
Scandinavian                    = 24.8%
Balkan                             = 7.4%
Greek/South Italian           = 1.3%
West Asian (Turkey/Iran)   = 0.5%

Ironically, against everything that is supposedly the case in our family history, my mother's side has almost no English blood whatsoever, and a large amount of both Scandinavian and Scots/Irish ancestery. My father's side, which has always maintained it had Irish/Scots roots is, on the other hand, overwhelmingly English in origin, though with some Balkan roots as well.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on March 14, 2020, 06:58:46 pm
As I understand it, such tests are supposed to lead to immediate drama with long lost siblings, surprise bigamy and irreparable family strife. Is yours defective?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 14, 2020, 10:09:38 pm
 :lulz: I find these tests funny. All the drama Iíve gotten from them in my family has been to my benefit in the long run, while they break down into ever more intense tirades at each other.



In other news, Eris is not long for this world. Low temperatures and insufficient sunlight are murdering her, and I have begun mourning her coming death by listening to slam death metal at 2AM while packing my stuff.

Relatedly, I donít know if theyíve begun to recognize why the cats are crowding around me and hissing at them yet. (These cats love me and love my music more and love my hidden cat treats most of all. Everyday, a hungry kitty mosh pit.)

Oh, and I was gifted a box of sugar free gum. So I also donít know what theyíre going to do when their toilet backs up.

Cíest la vie, you know?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2020, 12:57:44 pm
All my family drama is preexisting and quite indepth (up to and including trying to kill my grandmother) so fortunately there is no need for drama here.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 15, 2020, 04:07:42 pm
In other news, Eris is not long for this world. Low temperatures and insufficient sunlight are murdering her, and I have begun mourning her coming death by listening to slam death metal at 2AM while packing my stuff.
This makes me angry.  Keeping houseplants alive takes little skill, and very little effort.  What kind of person names their houseplants, anyway?  The kind of person who thinks good intentions and positive emotions matters more than spending five seconds a day checking on the damn thing?

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Relatedly, I donít know if theyíve begun to recognize why the cats are crowding around me and hissing at them yet. (These cats love me and love my music more and love my hidden cat treats most of all. Everyday, a hungry kitty mosh pit.)
These people shouldn't be allowed to keep cats.  Cats are an order of magnitude higher maintenance than houseplants.  The only thing making it easier is that when a cat gets hungry/unhappy it will make noises at you.

I hope they're okay after you leave.

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Oh, and I was gifted a box of sugar free gum. So I also donít know what theyíre going to do when their toilet backs up.
I'm sorry.  I don't know what they're going to do, either.  Maybe if they named the toilet, that would help?  They could call it Belphegor (https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Belphegor).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 15, 2020, 07:44:46 pm
Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isnít meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.

The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they arenít eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they canít take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)

And they wouldnít name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. Theyíre high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They donít even have a plunger.

That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.

Iíve been SAVING UP.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Sung Low on March 16, 2020, 06:11:25 pm
hey, why do love you?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Sung Low on March 16, 2020, 06:16:38 pm
#Because you're another human.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 16, 2020, 06:19:29 pm
No answering your own questions, that's almost as bad as liking your own Facebook posts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 16, 2020, 08:21:55 pm
Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isnít meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.

The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they arenít eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they canít take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)

And they wouldnít name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. Theyíre high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They donít even have a plunger.

That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.

Iíve been SAVING UP.
Save the cats. Take them with you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 16, 2020, 09:33:32 pm
Eris is a weird looking fancy houseplant. I think it just isnít meant to be alive in the winter, let alone on the west side of the building, where almost no light reaches.

The cats have recently had their food switched to some Grain-Free shit with spearmint and lavender extract mixed into it, and they arenít eating it. Good on them, that shit is awful for them. So when I have hidden salmon sticks AND slam death metal, they canít take it. (Cats LOVE pinch harmonics.)

And they wouldnít name the toilet unless it would potentially anger me while being plausibly deniable to everyone else. Theyíre high school bullies, not properly spiteful. So names are out. Not that that would help: They donít even have a plunger.

That will be a terrible, terrible mistake.

Iíve been SAVING UP.
Save the cats. Take them with you.
I wish I could. I physically cannot. I cannot even take all of my own stuff with me, a large proportion has to stay in Chicago hellhole temporarily (I have a trusted caretaker, do not worry).

Packing is almost complete: I just need to finish doing laundry, pack clothes and blanket, and itís all but completely ready. The very last thing is sealing up an electronic device I cannot fit in another object for safe transit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 18, 2020, 02:46:40 am
The governor is telling us not to expect schools to open back up for the remainder of this school year. Woof.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on March 18, 2020, 05:57:21 am
Our schools are closed until the end of March, and for some reason a lot of people seem to think this whole thing will have blown over by then.  :roll:

I had a guy tonight tell me that the death rate won't be nearly as high here as it was in China because China is a third world country that doesn't have hospitals.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 18, 2020, 12:28:01 pm
The end of April will probably be the time we have a better idea what is going on. If the UK keeps to current trends, it will probably be like Italy is now at that point.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 18, 2020, 08:08:04 pm
Mid April is when we're supposed to be considering re-opening but 🤷. Fresno may or may not be going on total lockdown starting at midnight anyway and who knows how long that'll last.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 18, 2020, 08:39:37 pm
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.

Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:10:11 pm
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.

Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.

Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:12:02 pm
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 18, 2020, 09:14:24 pm
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.

You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 18, 2020, 09:29:46 pm
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.

You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.
:lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Zenpatista on March 18, 2020, 09:49:14 pm
None of this would have happened, had I been elected a few years back.

You were, in fact, elected to be our 21st Century, so this is actually all your fault.

Don't blame me. I voted for Howl. Who was the running mate again? TGRR?

Anyway, our school has just stated they're planning to stay online through the first summer session. They'll decide go/no-go on May 1 whether or not to have activities on campus after July 1.

In the meantime, I've had 7+ zoom meetings in 2 days and their stock is soaring.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 18, 2020, 10:47:49 pm
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.

Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.

Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."

Here lies humanity.
"Herd immunity"
Didn't work.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 18, 2020, 10:55:14 pm
Iím on a train ride to some random place, Michigan right now. Train is surprisingly low occupancy, even considering COVID and no one wanting to go to Michigan. Not a total ghost town though.

Iím torn between laughter, tears, and rage, but I have to hold it in. Iím counting on me.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 18, 2020, 11:33:54 pm
Iím on a train ride to some random place, Michigan right now. Train is surprisingly low occupancy, even considering COVID and no one wanting to go to Michigan. Not a total ghost town though.

Iím torn between laughter, tears, and rage, but I have to hold it in. Iím counting on me.

I'm rooting for you altered. Your ability to endure alone has earned my respect. The fact that you're also super smart and scrappy is just icing. You keep on trucking girl! I'll do the same.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 19, 2020, 12:30:20 am
It helps to learn that a nu metal band so shitty even I canít find any reason someone would like them is getting bullied so hard by furries that they have tweeted 4700 times about how they have a ton of Pandora listeners. There is nothing about this shit that isnít funny.

Trapt sucks, by the way, and I say that as someone who LIKES THAT GENRE. Also theyíre Trump supporters and just look at this shit Iím dying on public transit https://twitter.com/chinchillazllla/status/1240372791892901888
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Al Qədic on March 19, 2020, 05:38:51 am
40 pages of this thread have come and gone, and I'm back again. I'll read through em some other time, I have a final portfolio to cobble together now that it's the end of the day and my other two class' final projects have gone unfinished. Last quarter was less astro-hyper-shitty than I thought it'd be; turns out I barely passed Greek I, and passed the other classes better than I thought I would. So that's nice.


Granted, I didn't buy the book for the class that I replaced Greeek II with this quarter, couldn't bring myself to write 7 pages about one of my favorite Tom Lehrer songs, and said class is one of the aforementioned two that have unfinished final papers. For another class, I could barely bring myself to read anything other than Assata Shakur's autobiography, and that's the *other* class I haven't finished the paper on, but I'm trying not to get bogged-down in the self-shit about all that too much. I keep getting bogged down by the holies, drop, and the acrid taste in my mouth from all the bullets I'm preparing to bite.


I am both itching to Do Things, and mortified to begin trying. But, c'est la vie. The only other thing I know for sure is I'm tired of self-induced radio-silence interspersed with sad whining and the wet sounds of placation. But, thanks to some of you mad bastards and your stupid meaningful words, I'm slowly becoming more ready to turn dials and flip switches in my brainmeat again.


Here's to The FUTURE.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 19, 2020, 05:55:45 am
Hey well we've just decided to close down our schools. I mean, today. And England only after Wales and Scotland already said they couldn't afford to keep the schools open any more.

Our closure is "until further notice", so no idea on when it's going to be over.

Our species' epitaph should be "We should let it work its way through the population" or maybe "It's a hoax."

This also works:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELfXv3WXkAARCJX?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2020, 03:16:35 pm
I have a fever today, so staying home.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2020, 11:01:51 pm
I have a fever today, so staying home.
Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 21, 2020, 12:21:34 am
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on March 21, 2020, 12:55:16 am
Starting Monday, we have to have our temperature scanned before we can  come in to work. Anything 99+ gets sent home on PTO.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:33:33 am
Blocked on Facebook for 30 days.  Offending post section was blank.  Blocked from asking for a review.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:35:58 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:38:12 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:38:55 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.

Seriously.  The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 03:53:51 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.

Seriously.  The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.

It's done. My exact wording was

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Sooo...  Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.


Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 03:58:41 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.

Seriously.  The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.

It's done. My exact wording was

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Sooo...  Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.


Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.

You know, I've gotten a lot less "direct" as I get older.

That being said, if I ever meet a facebook mod, they're gonna have a really bad time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 21, 2020, 04:09:56 am
Can someone please put up an announcement on my page?
Sure.

Seriously.  The help screen showed the offending post as blank and won't allow a review.

It's done. My exact wording was

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Sooo...  Hamish has been once again put in FB jail. Gonna be a 30 day sit down apparently. I hear they didn't even have a post in the field for why they did it. Just letting you all know.


Sounds like some straight up bullshit. I had a weird experience last night. My brother was playing video games with some friends over the internet. He started talking about some deep conspiracy shit I don't care to repeat here. Suddenly a voice comes on his phone, like a computerized sounding voice. It called out our entire address. Even the other folks playing heard it over the mic. Very creepy feeling.

You know, I've gotten a lot less "direct" as I get older.

That being said, if I ever meet a facebook mod, they're gonna have a really bad time.

I don't blame you. I've got a certain sense of vengeance myself. I don't even dress it up as justice. Fuck an eye for an eye. I'm more like the old if they send one of ours to the hospital we send six to the morgue. If it's time, might as well be overkill.

I try very hard to be a "decent" person, but I have a feeling that a season for doing very bad things and setting scores will soon be upon us as folks realize in ever greater numbers that they almost literally have nothing left to lose. Part of me feels dread, part of me is practically salivating in anticipation.

Mostly I just need more sleep than I've been getting.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2020, 04:27:44 am
Since FB sent all their mod staff home, I wonder if this was just auto-flagged and banned?

It might explain both there being no reason (the bot can't select one) and why you can't appeal (there's no-one to read them). I'm not defending FB in any way, just trying to figure out why this time is different.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 04:31:36 am
Since FB sent all their mod staff home, I wonder if this was just auto-flagged and banned?

It might explain both there being no reason (the bot can't select one) and why you can't appeal (there's no-one to read them). I'm not defending FB in any way, just trying to figure out why this time is different.

I figure that's probably the case, given the other day, but fuck 'em anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2020, 04:32:43 am
Oh yeah, for sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 21, 2020, 12:19:07 pm
Yeah, the mods are all home. I have a friend in Ireland who manages a team of FB mods. It sounds like pretty soul-crushing work, the dude is ragged. He's seen some shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 21, 2020, 01:18:32 pm
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 21, 2020, 02:46:13 pm
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that

yep, dublin. My friend said his job is hyper-stressful and "insomnia-inducing"

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2020, 04:40:30 pm
They do run the mods ragged. Toilet breaks are timed, you have to make a decision on whether something should stay up within x number of seconds of being flagged, zero hour contracts or as close to as possible...stupid shit like that. And most notably, no real support for the PTSD they're willingly inflicting on their workforce. Like, I've had to sit through hundreds of hours worth of terrorist material, including shootings, bombs, executions...PTSD by proxy is very real. But I've chosen, willingly, to investigate this kind of thing and I know what I'm expecting, going in. My chances of seeing child pornography while doing this, for example, are virtually nil.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 04:43:40 pm
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that

And then they ban people for making fun of Nazis?

Or maybe that's just the people who could stay in the job.  If you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 04:52:27 pm
The post that got me banned was the Osama Bin Ladin "This is why I bomb people" meme, posted in response to Pango's last pun.

So I am glad to hear that with pedos uploading porn and actual Nazis running around, this is what they choose to police.

Fuck those guys.  Right in their ear holes.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 21, 2020, 07:15:49 pm
Facbook dublin? I had a friend quit there after the NZ mosque shooting. Not so much because people kept reuploading the shooting vid, which is pretty bad in and of itself, it was the comments
"Muslims finally getting a taste of their own medicine" etc.
He said there was childporn uploaded almost daily as well and they had a special councillor just for the people who ended up seeing that

And then they ban people for making fun of Nazis?

Or maybe that's just the people who could stay in the job.  If you know what I mean.
I dont think so. Though I wouldnt put it past them.
What I think is happening is, all past ban history shows for moderators on facebook, so if they see a long list they have an inherent bias towards you and are more likely to keep banning you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2020, 09:01:52 pm
Kenny Rogers broke even last night.   :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 22, 2020, 01:48:49 am
I don't blame you. I've got a certain sense of vengeance myself. I don't even dress it up as justice.
What is called justice is often just revenge that has been outsourced to a disinterested third party.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 22, 2020, 12:12:29 pm
Kenny Rogers broke even last night.   :cry:

I was going to make a joke about at least being out of the Danger Zone, but that was Loggins.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 23, 2020, 03:07:04 am
Kenny Rogers broke even last night.   :cry:

I was going to make a joke about at least being out of the Danger Zone, but that was Loggins.

The only thing I've found that was funny about it was the perspective that considering the impending apocalypse technically he got out of the game at just the right time.

It's not very funny, but I like to think he's counting his chips now and snickering at the suckers still at the table. It's something anyway.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 04:18:55 am
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 23, 2020, 06:00:00 am
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.

Glad to hear it. Hopefully you and yours won't have to deal with the fucker.

One of the worst things about it, extraordinary contagion aside, is that it's so damn chaotic about presentation and progression of symptoms. It's maddening to question every little goddamn sniffle, sore throat, or temp as possible evidence that you've been contagious for a while now. I hate that you can only really know post facto whether or not your quarantine was effective. This and the mutation factor, there are at least two identified strains now, are why I think this is going to wind up endemic to humans. It's not something that 1 vaccine can fix.

In other news I intended to do a bunch of rabble rousing and calls for community action in my ample free time and start networking as well as I can within my local community. There's nothing else that's going to be of real help to real people in the new state of play the game is in, but it's obviously not a "game" being played for fun. I'm in this for real stakes now. If I manage to convince even one person to make themselves helpful where they otherwise would not, for any reason, I have succeeded. I have won. It's a very low bar, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to "win more" once I get going.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 10:59:33 am
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.

Glad you're feeling better!


Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 23, 2020, 12:10:36 pm
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.

Glad you're feeling better!


Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?
Nobody I'm aware of knows for sure yet.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on March 23, 2020, 01:40:21 pm
Apparently, what I had for the last few days was not the plague, but a garden variety bug.

Glad you're feeling better!


Here's something I haven't seen much discussed yet - the people who have already had the virus--they are now immune, right? Are they also not contageous?

Too early to tell if there's reincidence or immunity. I wonder if one can be a recovered carrier of it and simultaneously being susceptible to reincidence, sounds contradictory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on March 23, 2020, 02:07:37 pm

Apparently one can be a carrier for 14 days after being "cured"
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 02:47:42 pm
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 23, 2020, 03:07:32 pm
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.

Hopefully it's about how they've only thus far avoided being beaten with sticks due to social distancing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 03:22:26 pm
My test came back negative.  I just had the sinus bug that's going around.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 03:23:50 pm
also, anybody keeping tabs on antivax communities? curious what they're talking about right now, I bet it's a real high pitched eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise.

I think that just went out of style, except for the GLP/Qanon contingent.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on March 23, 2020, 04:07:11 pm
They are being really quiet about it. If a vaccine is developed and the facts put in front of them are literally: If you dont take this you may die, it undermines a lot of their arguments about their kids being harmed by the vaccine when the alternative is death directly, which they dont believe will happen for mumps or rubella (even though we had 34 deaths last year in Ireland for mumps and one moron got rubella last month and had his house blockaded so he couldnt bring his kids to school.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on March 23, 2020, 04:20:52 pm

I think their discourse is gonna get dragged into "bio-weapon" territory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on March 23, 2020, 05:10:28 pm
I've heard vaccines are actually just heroine overdose to euthanize democrats.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 06:40:28 pm
I've heard vaccines are actually just heroine overdose to euthanize democrats.

I'm so alone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 23, 2020, 08:06:29 pm
Good to hear you don't have the rona, Roger!

I'm still seeing SOME activity from the antivax types but much less. The occasional peep and that's about it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 08:16:57 pm
Good to hear you don't have the rona, Roger!

I'm still seeing SOME activity from the antivax types but much less. The occasional peep and that's about it.

It's a hard knock life for willing plague vectors.  Reality has a way of crushing fashion.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 23, 2020, 11:16:15 pm
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.

How's it going up there? You all situated?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 24, 2020, 01:18:18 am
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.

How's it going up there? You all situated?

Thereís logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*

Me
My friend
My friendís mother and stepfather
My friendís brother
My friendís sister and her husband

Trying to live in it together without going insane.

We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.

Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.

It is chaos.

Itís still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 24, 2020, 04:34:22 am
The antivaxxer I know has it. She's also got asthma and another condition that puts her at higher risk.

She went to the grocery store AGAIN.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 24, 2020, 11:54:35 am
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.

How's it going up there? You all situated?

Thereís logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*

Me
My friend
My friendís mother and stepfather
My friendís brother
My friendís sister and her husband

Trying to live in it together without going insane.

We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.

Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.

It is chaos.

Itís still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.

woah that sounds crowded! Glad you've landed though. Do you have your own space within the house that you can retreat to?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 24, 2020, 11:55:30 am
The antivaxxer I know has it. She's also got asthma and another condition that puts her at higher risk.

She went to the grocery store AGAIN.

 :science:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 24, 2020, 12:12:02 pm
I escaped Chicago, and am now in middle of nowhere Michigan. My body is trying to murder me (digestive, I am not COVID-devoured) and my brain is slow and the technology is failing, but there will be phone calls and training soon. Works out.

How's it going up there? You all situated?

Thereís logistical madness: this is a three bedroom home and soon will have *deep breath*

Me
My friend
My friendís mother and stepfather
My friendís brother
My friendís sister and her husband

Trying to live in it together without going insane.

We have wildly incompatible sleep patterns. A narcoleptic, two with non-24 but on opposite cyclic points, two late nighters who otherwise are normal, and two early birds who otherwise are normal.

Everyone works from home except the stepfather and the brother and technically me. I need to have WFH space set aside and a sleeping situation suited to my sleep disorder. Noise isolation does not exist.

It is chaos.

Itís still better than the streets, and I eat like royalty. So you know, good stuff, just high stress.

woah that sounds crowded! Glad you've landed though. Do you have your own space within the house that you can retreat to?

Yeah, currently. There is the risk of that being lost, though.

Unfortunately, even now itís crowded to the point that I am sitting here starving because people are asleep in the exact position to completely block access to the kitchen in a way that makes it physically impossible to get past if youíre dealing with horrendous gut pain. So I cannot eat until they wake up because I have horrendous gut pain.

I could wake them up, you say? Not so. There is a door in the way. Itís shut. Pinned. This is why it is impossible: I would need to shove it open when I can barely sit up. I would need help from the other side, but my voice is inaudible because deep breathing is AGONY on my stomach.

My life is a cartoon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 06:15:25 pm
Could someone post on my page that I am negative from corona and have recovered from whatever it was?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 24, 2020, 06:42:44 pm
I have done so. I also let everybody know the piss thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 06:44:51 pm
I have done so. I also let everybody know the piss thing.

It's nice that someone finally stepped up to TGRR and Enrico's shoes.

And pissed on them.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 24, 2020, 08:35:08 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 10:15:11 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
The never ending Rummy game has an open seat.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 24, 2020, 10:27:01 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 24, 2020, 10:28:06 pm
I was hoping to build the raised garden bed we've been planning and get some planting done but it is cold as balls and raining. ☹️ I'd bake instead but I haven't had a kitchen since mid November and the home insurance company is DRAGGING THEIR FUCKING FEET on paying up and the cabinets are taking forever, so I can't.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2020, 11:06:48 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?

Violated the NAP.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 24, 2020, 11:33:21 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?

Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 11:48:13 pm
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?

Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.

Non Aggression Principle.  It's libertarianism for letting people die miserably in an ethical, moral way.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 25, 2020, 12:58:43 am
Cain, Faust, we have two in the waiting room that MIGHT be legit, but they have the same email provider.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2020, 05:48:03 am
Cain, Faust, we have two in the waiting room that MIGHT be legit, but they have the same email provider.

Thanks. Turned out they were not, which makes me sad. It's a poor day when the spammers are pretending to be innocent fanfiction writers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2020, 05:51:23 am
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?

Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.

Non Aggression Principle.  It's libertarianism for letting people die miserably in an ethical, moral way.

Or alternatively kill them with extreme prejudice for meeting some arbitrary definition of aggression:

(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/awQVVzD_460s.jpg)

But mostly violating the NAP means a libertarian is crying somewhere about the inherent unfairness, and so it should be encouraged.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on March 25, 2020, 06:57:57 am
About to join Dok in the FB slammer in 5...4...3...2...
What'd you do?

Violated the NAP.
No idea what that means.


Perhaps this will help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgyhB5n2QXM
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2020, 07:07:49 am
Perfection. I was hoping it would be that when I clicked on the link.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2020, 09:05:14 am
There's a "Discordian" "Libertarian" FB group I'm a member of but only as a sort of rarely posting monitor. Now I have something WORTH posting there.

Oh this is gonna be good...  :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2020, 09:14:18 am
Just for shits I also posted it to one of Vermin Supreme's political groups demanding a policy discussion about his platform.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on March 25, 2020, 04:47:37 pm
Perfection. I was hoping it would be that when I clicked on the link.

Pretty sure it was from you that I first heard of it.

I have a feeling that someone I know (in real life and also FB) is an ancap, and that I will have to introduce him to it very soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 25, 2020, 05:24:29 pm
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.

After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.

And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.

I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.

He blocked me.


I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 25, 2020, 05:42:27 pm
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.

After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.

And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.

I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.

He blocked me.


I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.

"IMA FREE MAN DON'T NEED NO GUBMINT!"
\
 :chickenhawk:

"I'M REPORTING YOU."
\
 :joshua:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 25, 2020, 06:23:15 pm
      THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
             /
:ronpaul:


      THIS COURT HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
             /
:ronpaul:


      THIS JAIL CELL HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME
             /
:ronpaul:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2020, 07:06:04 pm
 :suu:

BAD LADY SAY ME NO FREEDOM! ME APPEAL TO AUTHORITY TO PROVE BAD LADY'S WRONGLIES NO HURT ME.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 25, 2020, 08:58:16 pm
:suu:

BAD LADY SAY ME NO FREEDOM! ME APPEAL TO AUTHORITY TO PROVE BAD LADY'S WRONGLIES NO HURT ME.

I may need to update my personal meme to include how fucking gray I've gotten in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2020, 09:14:17 pm
"Suu is prematurely going gray because of your bullshit".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 26, 2020, 11:30:18 pm
Long story short, I had someone on a friend's page say that he was a free person under the protection of the First Amendment, and was not under the jurisdiction of listening to the government being locked down.

After I tried to wrap my head around that fallacy, I reminded him that the 1A and 2A are, in fact, rights bestowed by the government.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

I reminded him to re-read John Locke's Second Treatise wherein it states that the biggest threat to a free person is another free person, because without laws, nobody can hear you scream rape.

He laugh reacted and told me to get bent.

So I send him a picture of me holding Vera, my Sig716 AR-10 variant, and told him I was coming for his toilet paper.

And he said I was threatening him and he would report me.

I reminded him as such that if he reports me, that he was in debt to a governing body, be it even a private company like Facebook, and therein not free.

He blocked me.


I've decided I now need an AK-47 with a rainbow stock, for real Gay Space Communist flavor, the next time the Malthusians get uppity.
:golfclap: :lulz: that's a delight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 26, 2020, 11:31:35 pm
"Suu is prematurely going gray because of your bullshit".

brb.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on March 27, 2020, 01:23:32 pm
So whatís new, everybody?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on March 27, 2020, 01:47:58 pm
WHAT'S UP, HOOPS?

No news is good news, I guess -- my fiance and I are still employed, healthy, and have clean asses.
Getting more exercise and fresh air than ever before. Talking to family and friends I haven't talked to in years.
So, compared with a lot of people, am handling this thing well so far.


It's still scary though - my fiance has some pretty bad athsma--if she got pneumonia it could be a problem. And as you've no doubt seen in the news, New York is short by tens of thousands of ventillators.

Real worried for all my friends who are getting furloughed and laid off.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 27, 2020, 02:30:02 pm
Not much new here. Still working from home for about 5 hours a day, then spending my spare time trying to master the infinite mysteries of the Veteran Maelstom Arena, and failing. One day Fa-Nuit-Hen will have to give me an inferno staff, but not today.

That aside, things are alright here. I managed to resupply yesterday, the shop actually had (some) soup and pasta, which is a miracle. They've introduced limits on people who can go into the shops at any one time. Fortunately people around here are fairly sensible and are observing social distancing while waiting their turn.

Family is also fine. My parents are isolated in the countryside somewhere in Norfolk and my father - who would otherwise be my main concern, since he nearly killed himself last year with a fantastic combination of flu, pneumonia and sepsis -is working from home until retirement later this year.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 27, 2020, 03:03:46 pm
So whatís new, everybody?

Shame, failure, and degradation.

The new part is that it is now universal.

"Think stupidly, act globally."
- JR "Bob" Dobbs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 27, 2020, 03:06:40 pm
Jephph is still considered essential, you know, being active duty and all. So he's continuing the commute to and from work, while I stay home and inside all day since I'm considered high risk according to the Naval Hospital. I'm asthmatic, have been since I was three, and have autoimmune disease. Pour one out.

Jephph is also asthmatic, but only allergen-driven, and never gets sick. Until he does get sick, and then he's pretty much on his death bed the whole time, and not a mancold, either. No, he can thwart a sniffle. We caught something in January from my sister. They didn't test her for influenza, but that's what UC said it was. This was after she showed up for Christmas morning with a mask on. Jephph caught it a week later, and it flattened him on the couch. It took two weeks for me to become symptomatic (highly uncharacteristic of the flu, no?) But bounced off of me with a mild sniffle and fever for 2 days, followed by two weeks of insane coughing. We alerted Jephph's command doc, and he said while he can't rule it out, based on reports of similar illness on base at the time, there is no titer test for COVID yet for us to know for sure.

My parents are locked in at home, my dad is now referring to my brother as the Gestapo, because he won't let them go anywhere. Considering my dad is Type 2 Diabetic, physically disabled from polio, with chronic bronchitis from being a habitual pot smoker, PLUS hypertension, who travels to and from Europe for work, he's got a fucking bullseye on him. My brother is thankfully on salary from a dental lab, and is able to help my parents out financially, since my dad doesn't get paid unless he works.

My mom is a known and noted Typhoid Mary. She catches things, doesn't exhibit symptoms, and distributes them in secret, like chickenpox, influenza, and mononucleosis. We don't trust her.

My sister is doing supply drops, since she's considered essential personnel working at a gun shop. *stares at camera*

We were supposed to be on that side of the state this week to visit. That's definitely not happening.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 27, 2020, 05:42:41 pm
So far so good wrt health in my family. My parents are retired, my sibling works from home rn, my sister is still getting paid, and my BIL might not be but my sister is the property bread winner.

Employed but effectively unemployed bc I work for a school district as a sub. The board is supposed to meet next Wednesday to decide if they're going to extend the school closure beyond April 13th and the teacher's union expects they will. Unlike the teachers, though, I don't get paid unless I'm working. So emergency unemployment insurance time!

Also this might derail my career for a year but we'll see. I am in the teaching candidate pool for my district and who the fuck knows when I'll hear back at this point. Hopefully the district will have at least some kind of solid distance learning thingy set up at least by August so they'll be able to get the kids back in school and me a fucking job.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on March 27, 2020, 08:20:20 pm
I assume you've already looked into this as an option, but how is online tutoring looking? Quite a few companies are already set up for it (mostly TEFL courses), I would imagine there is significant room to expand given everything that's going on. And I'm sure parents would love an extra hour's break from their kids while trying to work from home.

I imagine the main problem is that there would be a lot of teachers suddenly looking to do this, all at once.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 27, 2020, 08:49:35 pm
I assume you've already looked into this as an option, but how is online tutoring looking? Quite a few companies are already set up for it (mostly TEFL courses), I would imagine there is significant room to expand given everything that's going on. And I'm sure parents would love an extra hour's break from their kids while trying to work from home.

I imagine the main problem is that there would be a lot of teachers suddenly looking to do this, all at once.
Yep, I'm planning to. My cousin works for one of those online TEFL companies already and she'd had a good experience, so I'm eyeing her company. But yeah, there's gonna be a lot of teachers looking for this. Therefore, unemployment insurance in the mean time bc idk how this is going to impact my ability to apply for unemployment over the summer, since I can't save enough to survive summer vacation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bu🤠ns on March 27, 2020, 08:52:30 pm
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord

 also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord

the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.

 no spaces, all lowercase.

going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 27, 2020, 09:26:11 pm
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord

 also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord

the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.

 no spaces, all lowercase.

going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]

I will probably drop in tonight, given that I am banned on FB again, only this time I didn't do anything.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 27, 2020, 09:30:51 pm
Did they say why?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 27, 2020, 09:34:15 pm
Did they say why?

Pango told a bad pun, and I post a pic of OBL saying "This is why I bomb people".

The bots banned me.  Reviews are shut off because FB shut its office down for the duration.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on March 28, 2020, 05:42:19 am
hey i'm back.

Currently holed up in a cabin in Idyllwild until the curve flattens. Work is letting me stay off the schedule without actually firing me, and my manager seems okay letting me stay out here on a week to week basis. So i'm trying to see this a a psuedo vacation, hanging with my roommates lots of food, and all of our nerd shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 28, 2020, 08:41:12 am
hey i'm back.

Currently holed up in a cabin in Idyllwild until the curve flattens. Work is letting me stay off the schedule without actually firing me, and my manager seems okay letting me stay out here on a week to week basis. So i'm trying to see this a a psuedo vacation, hanging with my roommates lots of food, and all of our nerd shit.
Nerd shit is going to be big. All the sports are done as we knew them. Watch gaming become a pandemic of sorts.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on March 28, 2020, 09:56:29 pm
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord

 also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord (https://cytu.be/r/fnord)

the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.

 no spaces, all lowercase.

going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]


This is cool, and welcome back everyone!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 28, 2020, 11:03:44 pm
hey all, we're still chilling in the irc channel as usual.
maddshark.com, #discord

 also just opened up a quick cytube channel if you have a video you wanna syncwatch anything: https://cytu.be/r/fnord (https://cytu.be/r/fnord)

the pw for cytube is ... well you can probably guess it.

 no spaces, all lowercase.

going...stircrszy ... need novelty [emoji3446]


This is cool, and welcome back everyone!

 :pax:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Pergamos on March 29, 2020, 11:13:34 am
My wife is a nurse, her hospital is almost out of protective gear.  Fortunately she and I are both healthy and not too old so we will probably survive when she inevitably catches corona.  Unfortunately she was just warned she might have diabetes, which would make her chances of surviving considerably lower.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 29, 2020, 07:16:27 pm
My wife is a nurse, her hospital is almost out of protective gear.  Fortunately she and I are both healthy and not too old so we will probably survive when she inevitably catches corona.  Unfortunately she was just warned she might have diabetes, which would make her chances of surviving considerably lower.

Diabetes itself won't hurt her chances.  Complications from diabetes will.

Get that blood sugar down.  I have a few useful tips if desired, though presumably as a health professional, she knows them already.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on March 30, 2020, 07:40:17 am
How disrespectful would it be to play off the rent strike thing as april fools gag?

I live in a welfare state and I've heard no one even talking about the thing. My personal rent situation is quite okay cause I can always take more student loans, but the idea of first horrifying my landlord, and then expressing a complete lack of spine just makes me giggle. Giggling means it's a good idea right?

Worst case scenario, the landlord is a complete grayface, I end up homeless and save loads of money.

Don't get me wrong, if anyone is doing the strike either because they must, or out of solidarity for those who do I wish them all the best. If I grow balls over night I might join you in your serious struggle for a better world. It just doesn't make me giggle.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 31, 2020, 12:02:57 am
I think my sister, who is still being paid and makes like $50k is considering it. I think it's a bit distasteful to turn it into a joke since a fuck ton of people don't have any other option but ymmv.


We're at 100 confirmed cases and I'm sure the real number is considerably higher. I'm probably gonna take my dog for a walk later and I'll be peeking at the grocery store parking lot to see what it looks like. Hopefully it's even more empty than it already was (about a half the usual last I looked). My kitchen can't get installed soon enough.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 31, 2020, 12:35:47 am
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 31, 2020, 02:05:13 am
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2020, 02:17:49 am
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on March 31, 2020, 04:14:33 am
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.

Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.

Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 04:22:22 am
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.

Here at the beginning, here at the end.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 04:23:41 am
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.

It's not the BBS.  I have had those problems in the past.  Then I scrub the hard drive, nuke cookies, and update my drivers.

Clears it up.

There was that one time that dreamhost fucked everything up gloriously and had a 5 minute refresh, but that was years ago.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2020, 04:51:55 am
I'm currently having trouble with both fb and the forum. For some reason the front pages of both load up just fine, but as soon as I try to reply to something or post it's like pulling teeth waiting after I post only to get a null field error here or some shit and a perpetual load icon on the fb website. I'm having less trouble here, but I've had to copy the text of at least four attempts to post and try reposting later. Not even sure this will get through.

It's not the BBS.  I have had those problems in the past.  Then I scrub the hard drive, nuke cookies, and update my drivers.

Clears it up.

There was that one time that dreamhost fucked everything up gloriously and had a 5 minute refresh, but that was years ago.

Probably my browser then. It comes and goes. I still primarily use a cheap burner and wifi. I have been getting things set up for a simple computer desk to use an older but quite functional laptop and monitor set up. I intend to start doing a lot of video conferencing and am considering which platforms might be worth buying into to sublet hosting time for gamers and other mass group activities. There's money in a friendly face and being able to speak publicly to anyone who wants to come by. Same for counciling services and training exercises. I'm considering floating the idea of a virtual dojo to my sensei/bestie that I used to live above back in the bad old bedbug days. The lack of actual physical contact will limit what he can teach, but the internal aspects of the arts are mostly meditation exercises.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 31, 2020, 05:48:49 am
I have something strange: either some flavor of illness, or the UNFORTUNATELY TIMED beginnings of my smokerís cough.

There is no fever, no tiredness and the cough is more like sludge than a dry cough, so Iím not fearing the plague, but I figure Iíll mention it now in case I end up as an unmarked grave in the backwoods of Michigan.

More seriously, plague vectors for me are minimal. I am unconcerned, except for the hyperawareness and paranoia of Plague Times.

Interview tomorrow, though I had thought it was today because I am a gigantic idiot.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 05:50:14 am
I have something strange: either some flavor of illness, or the UNFORTUNATELY TIMED beginnings of my smokerís cough.

There is no fever, no tiredness and the cough is more like sludge than a dry cough, so Iím not fearing the plague, but I figure Iíll mention it now in case I end up as an unmarked grave in the backwoods of Michigan.

More seriously, plague vectors for me are minimal. I am unconcerned, except for the hyperawareness and paranoia of Plague Times.

Interview tomorrow, though I had thought it was today because I am a gigantic idiot.

There's a sinus thing going around that has a dry cough.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 31, 2020, 05:58:07 am
Great fun, I bet a lot of people are terrifying themselves. Iíll keep that in mind in case someone starts freaking out around here.

Fortunately, I have a cough like Iím one of those video game enemies that launches poison loogies like the worldís grossest artillery division. Combined with lack of fever, I feel pretty safe.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 06:03:02 am
Great fun, I bet a lot of people are terrifying themselves. Iíll keep that in mind in case someone starts freaking out around here.

Fortunately, I have a cough like Iím one of those video game enemies that launches poison loogies like the worldís grossest artillery division. Combined with lack of fever, I feel pretty safe.

I self-isolated for 4 days the week before last with that bug.

But that's because there were no MAGA rallies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on March 31, 2020, 06:09:27 am
 :lulz:

Unfortunately, I cannot drive and this is the kind of place where youíd be lucky to intentionally infect one other person before youíd die of exposure. Thatís another big part of my not worrying.

That sadly means I cannot perform direct action if I catch the death.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on March 31, 2020, 02:59:53 pm
Trying to explain to people on the internet that I still have to go to therapy is fucking terrible. She's not set up for teleconferencing in her office yet, how hard is this to understand? Once she is, we'll transition over.

"Do you REALLY have to go?"

Well I don't fucking know, Karen, do you REALLY want me to take an entire bottle of pills and see what happens for fucking SCIENCE because my depression says it's a good idea?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on March 31, 2020, 07:05:23 pm
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.

Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.

Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
If RWHN comes back, I'm blaming you personally for that fucking nerd.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:08:32 pm
I love how all the OG Peedees are coming back just in time for all the shit to go down.

It was like the pandemic put out the Spag Signal or some shit.
Right? A synchronicity for sure.

Is anyone taking bets yet on which of us caused it? I've heard a fair few silly theories lately but not one has pulled out occams razor and pointed it at p3nt. I've got 2 euro on Payne as an outside bet.

Another 2 weeks and rev ill fitting suit will be back showing how the pox spreads via weed farms.
If RWHN comes back, I'm blaming you personally for that fucking nerd.

I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 31, 2020, 07:24:29 pm
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 07:26:22 pm
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.

It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on April 01, 2020, 05:36:00 pm
Ok, I'm rent striking now. My demands are:

-I want to be allowed to take pets, a cat in particular.

-nothing

I also have this very dumb feeling that I could've just asked and have better outcomes.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 01, 2020, 06:33:28 pm
I am continuing to have a serious problem posting and even navigating the board. I cleared my cache and even tried downloading firefox app, which btw basically refused to load pd as dangerously unsecured or something. I'm taking this as a sign from Her to finish setting up my little computer desk. Hopefully the thing will work and solve the problem.

Not even sure this post will go through.

Fourth attempt
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 01, 2020, 10:05:44 pm
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.

It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:

If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 01, 2020, 10:33:35 pm
Need to learn how to Zoom anyway. So...
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2020, 10:45:07 pm
Need to learn how to Zoom anyway. So...

Well you gotta go fast... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfGjLIPRgDA)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 03:20:22 am
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.

It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:

If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.

That was a great deal of fun.  I'll be back on tomorrow night.

I will have to bump the 21C man thing tomorrow morning, because I have found a Tucker Carlson fan page and they need my love.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 02, 2020, 04:02:22 am
I am banned on FB and so I have nothing to chew on.  RWHN coming back would be just the ticket.
Is that the DRUGS guy? Leave me a drumstick.

It's the WE HAVE TO DESTROY THE CHILDREN TO SAVE THEM guy, so yeah.
*Squints in school to prison pipeline* :lulz:

If you wanna, I'm hosting a thing on zoom and you're all totally welcome to join. The meeting ID is 867-097-9754.

That was a great deal of fun.  I'll be back on tomorrow night.

I will have to bump the 21C man thing tomorrow morning, because I have found a Tucker Carlson fan page and they need my love.
It was!! I'll be def running another one tomorrow and take you time!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 02, 2020, 06:07:47 am
Looking forward to it! I have a lot of time off and on for the foreseeable future and itís well worth filling with more no-good cretinous bastards. The other options are video games I am not currently enjoying (who knew you could get sick of Bloodborne!) and music I get exiled outside to listen to.

Speaking of that, I have to link some more horrible shit from the era of Tripp pants and white kid dreads.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 02, 2020, 08:38:13 pm
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.

Actual phonecall from my parents:

Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2020, 08:38:35 pm
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 08:50:34 pm
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.

Actual phonecall from my parents:

Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.

Tell your mom the Asshat Nation has her back in the joint.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on April 02, 2020, 09:13:32 pm
HOLY SHIT, MY MOM GOT ZUCCED.

Actual phonecall from my parents:

Dad: GUESS WHAT?!
Me: You caught the COVID but you aren't leaving me jack shit in the will?
Dad: NO! BETTER!
Me: ...what?
Dad: Your mom got banned from Facebook!
Me: WAIT, WHAT?
Mom: *on speaker phone* SO LISTEN TO THIS SHIT
Me: Oh lawd.
Mom: All I did, all I fucking did, was comment on someone's post about how people are leaving gloves all over the place. All I said was, "Americans are slobs." And I got a warning and banned for 3 days for bullying!
Me: Wait...what? For THAT?
Mom: SERIOUSLY. I mean, you threaten to punch Nazis. I tell Americans to pick up their trash, and woops, look at us! I done pissed off the Zuckerberg.
Me: ...I'm so fucking proud of you right now.
Mom: Right?! We knew you would be.
Me: And Americans are slobs.
Your mother is a few weeks away from organizing raids on forums from one of the underworld chan sites. Its a slippery slope, this is how it starts
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 02, 2020, 09:52:12 pm
As soon as I can manage I want to get in on the zoom thing. Maybe not this session, but soon. I strongly believe that mass conferencing is the way forward for several social staples that can no longer be safely done in person.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:00:51 pm
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 02, 2020, 10:10:48 pm
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 02, 2020, 10:17:36 pm
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?

Just post the group number, if it is different.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on April 02, 2020, 10:40:26 pm
Do you need an app for that?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:45:31 pm
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?

Just post the group number, if it is different.
A host has to start and stay in the meeting, I believe. The ID is still 867-097-9754 tho. I could easily make you or Alter a meeting host, it either of you wants to.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 02, 2020, 10:46:24 pm
Do you need an app for that?
There's an app and a website. I use the app.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2020, 10:49:16 pm
I don't have a webcam, but have fun!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 02, 2020, 11:06:01 pm
I need to do a couple things but I'll be starting today session in idk about two hours?

Just post the group number, if it is different.
A host has to start and stay in the meeting, I believe. The ID is still 867-097-9754 tho. I could easily make you or Alter a meeting host, it either of you wants to.

Sadly, I canít host. iOS only for the moment and off-and-on busy. I do appreciate the offer, just no good for me to be hosting anything!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on April 02, 2020, 11:14:36 pm
Do you need an app for that?
There's an app and a website. I use the app.
I will figure this out  :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 02, 2020, 11:22:06 pm
I don't have a webcam, but have fun!
Webcams are optional I believe?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 02, 2020, 11:24:35 pm
Webcams are optional, yes. In fact, when joining a chat you can opt to disable video so it doesnít even try to find a camera.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2020, 11:41:24 pm
Hmm, I'm more tempted now, but it is almost midnight and I'm not entirely sure how soundproof the flat is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 03, 2020, 12:12:57 am
My friend (Theo, for Rog and Alter) is running out for anyone who wants in
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 03, 2020, 01:41:41 am
My friend (Theo, for Rog and Alter) is running out for anyone who wants in

I'm getting set up. Should have a rig put together by the end of the night. Will almost certainly catch the next one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 03, 2020, 06:44:26 am
Also, Roger, I NEED a video of a dildo being fired into that ballistics gel.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2020, 03:16:17 pm
I'm hiding over here for good again, Facebook is a toolbox, and everybody has opinions they need to smear across my face like shit, and I'm in no mood for it.

I'm out of fight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2020, 03:51:10 pm
Facebook is trash.

The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on April 03, 2020, 04:00:26 pm
Well, you're halfway there.  The latest update has dark mode.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2020, 04:04:11 pm
Facebook is trash.

The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.

I think that whole, "everyone else" thing is why I'm there as well. Other than that, all it does is piss me off, and yelling at people isn't fun anymore.  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2020, 04:07:59 pm
Well, you're halfway there.  The latest update has dark mode.

That's why I specifically added felchies. Also we don't have dark mode (or Facebook dating) in the UK yet.

Facebook is trash.

The only reason I'm there is because everyone else, otherwise I would boycott it until they introduced dark mode. And felchies.

I think that whole, "everyone else" thing is why I'm there as well. Other than that, all it does is piss me off, and yelling at people isn't fun anymore.  :sad:

Yeah, you reach a certain point sometimes where it's like "this is just a waste of my own time".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2020, 04:19:16 pm
We also don't have Hamish, which I mean, removes a great deal of appeal from social media has a whole.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2020, 04:26:20 pm
Well, you're halfway there.  The latest update has dark mode.

Have you actually had good luck with trying that out?  I have not. It loaded and froze my entire system. Same with the new live stream "director".
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on April 03, 2020, 04:56:54 pm
I haven't tried it out yet, tbh
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2020, 05:21:07 pm
So, since all of my major work for the summer has been officially postponed until next year. I'm debating if I should just crack open one of my expensive beers, or crack open the Benedryl and go back to bed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 12:01:34 am
So I have completed a major tech upgrade.  I am now ready to use Zoom, skype, and other platforms.  I would love to see some of you face to face in the not so distant future.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 04, 2020, 12:26:16 am
"everybody else is there" is probably the only reason Facebook still exists. We need another mass exodus a la Myspace when Murdock bought it and everybody left.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 04, 2020, 03:37:48 am
For Juana:

Let Theo know that Shudder indeed has the remaster of Phantasm and I intend to give it a watch. It’s certainly longer than the version I originally watched, so... hoping that the magic gets me this time.



ETA: Well, done watching. I think I got a feel for why it’s so well loved now.

Unfortunately, it has the Lovecraft problem: excellent ideas, mediocre to terrible execution.

I want to like it more than I do, and I have certainly gotten ideas from it. It just isn’t that great on its own.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2020, 05:05:24 am
We also don't have Hamish, which I mean, removes a great deal of appeal from social media has a whole.

As Juana says, the only reason I go back is that everyone is there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 04, 2020, 05:25:00 am
I spent most of this week working on a single problem.  Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated.  Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.

Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.

Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever.  The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 04, 2020, 06:38:31 pm
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers  to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 05, 2020, 01:13:55 am
Welp, my grandma is dying alone, in the middle of a pandemic, in Texas. I have complicated feelings about her (mostly she's a near stranger I don't like very much as a person) but my mom is sad and the fact that no one can be with her is a tragedy.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:15:22 am
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers  to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.

You are describing a scrubber.  It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.

It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:15:33 am
Welp, my grandma is dying alone, in the middle of a pandemic, in Texas. I have complicated feelings about her (mostly she's a near stranger I don't like very much as a person) but my mom is sad and the fact that no one can be with her is a tragedy.

:(
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2020, 02:03:07 pm
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers  to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.

You are describing a scrubber.  It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.

It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.

It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Bruno on April 05, 2020, 06:25:43 pm
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers  to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.

You are describing a scrubber.  It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.

It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.

It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.

Something like one a these?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2020, 06:29:42 pm
Dok i had an idea for a sort of wet filter for the ventilation systems to take out the virus aerosol. it needs to be several layers of spaced out filter like a sponge somehow kept moist with a degreaser to kill the virus. they should be safe to change and handle, but the vents themselves need to be handled as contaminated. When your production workers return to work in those high vibration areas they MUST have masks and sealed goggles and decontaminate after being in the production areas. You gotta make South Korea look like slackers  to protect the very valuable company asset known as the skilled worker. they could write off the cost as cost of business, probably patent a few things, and maybe even turn a profit teaching affiliates. just thinking. you have engineers.

You are describing a scrubber.  It would be a thing if the disease were aerosol, and it would work well.

It would still work well, except that it's a Cadillac when you need a Yugo.

It's overkill time in my head I guess. At least the idea in my head was sound. I've been thinking of ways to apply the concept to an improvised face mask with common household ingredients. was thinking Dawn dish soap solution, but it would need reapplication every now and then.

Something like one a these?

more like this
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on April 06, 2020, 05:02:26 am
I spent most of this week working on a single problem.  Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated.  Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.

Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.

Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever.  The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.


Finding the solution is still a win... please donít tell me it was the error correction :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 06, 2020, 02:17:44 pm
I spent most of this week working on a single problem.  Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated.  Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.

Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.

Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever.  The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.


Finding the solution is still a win... please donít tell me it was the error correction :lol:

It was related to error correction.  In my defense, I hadn't even heard of the fast Hadamard transform a week ago.  :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on April 06, 2020, 04:27:05 pm
I spent most of this week working on a single problem.  Although I had an initial solution, its performance seemed inadequate, so I set out to improve it, through methods subtle, complex, and sophisticated.  Although I made some advances, it still seemed to me that I was missing something.

Today I discovered, to my horror, that the best approach was mere brute force, and that NASA had already solved the hell out of this particular problem for the Mariner-9 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_9) mission back in 1971.

Once again, I had sabotaged myself by trying to be clever.  The solution I finally settled on is under 50 lines of code.


Finding the solution is still a win... please donít tell me it was the error correction :lol:

It was related to error correction.  In my defense, I hadn't even heard of the fast Hadamard transform a week ago.  :(
I had a similar thing happen with the Viterbi algorithm, my brain canít hack the maths though. :sad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2020, 08:35:21 pm
I am absolutely geeking out! I have been adding total randos on FB for over a month now both to salt my friend list and to expand my influence and connections over time. turns out one of those randos is in the same martial arts school as my old sensei and they know each other well! The hand of the Goddess is pulling some strings. The school is called Hoshin and was founded by one Doc Morris, and HE was an OG Discordian that basically applied the chaos magic principal to martial arts in a way that produced a sort of esoteric MMA. I'm fucking STOKED!!

 :magick: :pax:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on April 06, 2020, 09:10:03 pm
 :pax:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 06, 2020, 09:34:34 pm
do you cats have strong feelings about the tossing of links to this forum up on the zuckerweb?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on April 06, 2020, 09:40:55 pm
I vote go for it, its one of the most linked places for stuff here anyway
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2020, 09:51:11 pm
I've been waiting for the green light on this  for a long time...
 :dream:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on April 06, 2020, 10:03:48 pm
I mean, Sturgeon's law and all that, but sure. 
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2020, 10:26:28 pm
I mean, Sturgeon's law and all that, but sure.

googled it. I'm going to do direct invites to hand selected friends and acquaintances to filter out as much crap as possible, but many of them will be rather mystical minded. Talent is talent and I'm not what you would call ontological-picky so much as a judge of character and a procurer of good faith effort.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 06, 2020, 10:58:18 pm
I have finished my interviews. Everyone sounds extremely excited to have me, and the general vibe seems to be phrasing ďthis is happening, soĒ stuff as ďin case this is happeningĒ stuff for CYA purposes.

They work like, ďhereís an offer you can take from us,Ē too, so the job is probably guaranteed, considering.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2020, 11:07:01 pm
glad to hear altered!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 06, 2020, 11:35:17 pm
oh awesome!! glad to hear it!

How's the home situation, still good over there?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 07, 2020, 12:10:30 am
All of the extras left except me, so itís four people in three bedrooms, as God intended. Finding time for a store run (have to do it when the old assholes arenít out in force but also while itís still open?) has been tough, so casual eating food is not a thing. But otherwise itís been smooth sailing.

My friend who got my life on a good fucking track for once hasnít been doing so hot: the shitty white girl roommates rearranged the apartment to have a fucking YOGA STUDIO in the living room, but have the idiocy to bitch that my friend should self isolate because he was on a deserted train for an hour. Also, the dishes situation got so foul that he took to hoarding clean dishes in his room for his own sanity.

He hasnít slept in a while, and tonight Iím helping him set up throttling on my router I left with him, so that he can say that it is bed time and disconnect the TV if they decide they need a movie party on a work night. Which has been three nights running.

The fucking monsters invite their friends over. In fucking Pilsen. The part of Chicago that is basically a cloud of fucking death right now. To yell at night. When they know the only person with temporarily steady employment has work in the morning.

Bright side: the terrible monster beast who moved in and started this shit show is going to be out just in time for me to move back in. Theyíll need me to, too, because rent will need paying and they wonít be able to manage it without my help.

See, one is doing WFH for a nonprofit that does work that absolutely needs physical presence so she is doomed to being laid off, the other works for an event ticket resale company so heís out of work inevitably too.

I, on the other hand, can pay everyoneís rent, utilities and food and still have money to stash away or use to help support others, once I get my health and sanity shit together. So. They need me. And White Girl is going to just have to deal with the awkwardness.

I might be a bad person for enjoying the irony that the one who was so willing to toss me out on the street will very probably be relying on me to not be headed that way herself, but I do not care.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2020, 08:36:35 pm
So I've gone and set up a nice 100 participant hosting situation on Zoom that I call Joe's Club House. If any of you want to chill and I'm not using the room for a private gathering PM me for the room access number. I can pretty much just leave my feed up so that the room can stay open for 24 hrs at a time or even designate a host if I'm AFK for an extended period. Zoom is not all that secure and at least as bad as FB about selling personal info, but it's a public space to gather. As I begin to do more advanced gatherings I will probably sell tickets, require a small fee, or collect club dues to provide a small income, offset costs, and expand operations. I'm thinking about setting up virtual markets, dojos, places to drink and party, concerts, gaming rooms, and all manner of other things to get people back together.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 07, 2020, 09:59:45 pm
Yay Altered!!!


If I never install drywall and mud it again, I will die happy. My shoulders and back are fucked up enough as it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 07, 2020, 10:15:27 pm
So I did not get the job. Thereís another position possibly, but I hate that my luck seems to go this way. Repeatedly. Everything is fine, perfect even, and then outside forces conspire.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 07, 2020, 10:17:31 pm
nooooooooooooooooooooooo

ahhhhhh shit altered!!! It sounded so sure -- I'm really sorry to hear that. fuuuuck.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2020, 10:18:49 pm
Fuck altered I'm sorry to hear that.  :| I know exactly the feeling that you get when everything seems to be in motion only to find it going down the drain. Keep on trying is the only thing I can encourage you with. Hang in there.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 07, 2020, 11:59:34 pm
do you cats have strong feelings about the tossing of links to this forum up on the zuckerweb?

I've been directly linking to this board for 7 years straight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 08, 2020, 03:20:52 am
John Prine died.

There goes the last of my bourbon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:35:39 pm
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 08, 2020, 11:40:52 pm
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?

Iíd be interested, for sure.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2020, 11:44:09 pm
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?

Iíd be interested, for sure.

absolutely
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 08, 2020, 11:52:53 pm
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 08, 2020, 11:55:58 pm
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.

Psst: https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/board,4.0.html
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 09, 2020, 12:06:45 am
Delightful. I could've sworn there was a cooking subboard but I can't find it. Anyway, I'll post it in bring and brag this evening when I have more time.

Psst: https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/board,4.0.html
Thank you! I knew it was there but the search didn't turn up a specific board and I wasn't seeing it searching manually.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 09, 2020, 01:37:03 am
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/02/0253d04c56b79d6a1c79cf88b75f428d6064136c530973cc856bc320de6d5037.jpg)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 01:43:07 am
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/02/0253d04c56b79d6a1c79cf88b75f428d6064136c530973cc856bc320de6d5037.jpg)

Yoinksec thanks you for your tacit cooperation.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 09, 2020, 02:03:16 am
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/02/0253d04c56b79d6a1c79cf88b75f428d6064136c530973cc856bc320de6d5037.jpg)
lmao, good (I'm assuming that's not sarcastic)!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 03:32:49 am
FB is being exceptionally special right now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 03:38:44 am
FB is being exceptionally special right now.

You got a new account up?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 06:32:28 pm
FB is being exceptionally special right now.

You got a new account up?

No, I can still see everything, I just can't post.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 06:42:44 pm
FB is being exceptionally special right now.

You got a new account up?

No, I can still see everything, I just can't post.

... That's diabolically clever. they keep you hooked even as they punish you for no doing as you're told. Might as well be a shady, 1980s cocaine pusher. Have you considered setting up a fresh sock? The only redeeming thing about FB is its ability to reach a mass audience, and i very much think that you deserve a mass audience. I also believe that that mass audience deserves what it gets!  :evil:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 06:47:06 pm
Are the PD video chats still going on? I would love to join.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 06:51:10 pm
I have a Zoom room running right now. PM me and I'll pass the code and PW for the day along
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:04:33 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 09, 2020, 07:06:32 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:07:19 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:09:26 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.

momentatily
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:15:42 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.

momentatily

also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:20:13 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.

momentatily

also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.

I cannot accept group invitations.  If it requires me to click, I can't do it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 07:22:14 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.

momentatily

also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.

I cannot accept group invitations.  If it requires me to click, I can't do it.

Doesn't matter. I can't send it. FB is stepping on my balls about preventing me as a potential spammer and straight up refuses to process my appeal to their systems.  :evilmad:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 07:26:30 pm
Hoopla has the code. I generally stay open until 11 or midnight. All spags invited.

I will be on in a little over an hour from now, when my shift is over.

TWJ, send me the info?  I might be able to get on in about 4 hours.

momentatily

also now that I know you can see out from your FB cell I'm adding you to a closed, hidden group for coordinating the codes with my FB friends.

I cannot accept group invitations.  If it requires me to click, I can't do it.

Doesn't matter. I can't send it. FB is stepping on my balls about preventing me as a potential spammer and straight up refuses to process my appeal to their systems.  :evilmad:

That means the bots are screwy again, and nobody's in the office.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 09, 2020, 07:59:29 pm
PM me the details, TWJ, Iíll show up at some point.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 08:09:25 pm
I have figured out how to use youtube and the share audio feature to pipe in music and sing Karaoke through the Zoom room!!

Achievement unlocked: Karaoke Ascension

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeIyy2ipps
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 08:11:02 pm
PM me the details, TWJ, Iíll show up at some point.

done!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 09, 2020, 11:05:41 pm
Important missive from the Book of Faces for one Messere Howl:

(https://i.imgur.com/PjHnKP8.png)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 11:28:40 pm
Important missive from the Book of Faces for one Messere Howl:

(https://i.imgur.com/PjHnKP8.png)

Saw that.   :lulz:

Besides, that's all backwards.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 11:32:14 pm
Gonna be AFK in the group room for a bit, but back soon. I'm leaving the video feed up to prevent room closure. If I'm not in my seat on the vid I will be soon.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 09, 2020, 11:58:18 pm
Password bounced.

After that little exercise in frustration, I am not joining a group that has a password.  Period, stop, the end.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 12:08:39 am
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 12:10:27 am
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out

You don't need to have a password.  This is in fact the first zoom I've seen where I needed to enter one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 12:11:39 am
sorry. i am resending. I don't have a choice about the password or id. it changes whenever the room closes, and it closed on me while i was out

You don't need to have a password.  This is in fact the first zoom I've seen where I needed to enter one.

I'll see if I have a thing in my settings. I am still new to this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 12:14:57 am
Me when people try and join my (nonexistent) Zoom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeZTeWNLz0).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 12:28:29 am
Your semi-annual reminder:

Eldora existed.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 12:35:21 am
 :argh!: :lulz: :) :sad: :eek: 8) :cry: :oops: :evil: :x :lol: :roll: :p :| :wink: :evilmad: :fnord: :fap: :kingmeh: :horrormirth: :aaa: :?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 12:41:14 am
From the chat with TWJ

"Eating a brat at the Mars Cheese Castle in Kenosha is like reading an Albert Camus novel."
- Howl
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 01:07:19 am
Furthermore the Shriner mafia has arrived.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:47:55 am
So I was born when rotary phones were a thing, and I am talking to TWJ on a video phone while we use our pocket supercomputers to look up episodes from science fiction stories that we have largely already eclipsed from a technological point of view.

This universe is defective.   :lol:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:16:09 am
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on April 10, 2020, 02:17:33 am
I am absolutely geeking out! I have been adding total randos on FB for over a month now both to salt my friend list and to expand my influence and connections over time. turns out one of those randos is in the same martial arts school as my old sensei and they know each other well! The hand of the Goddess is pulling some strings. The school is called Hoshin and was founded by one Doc Morris, and HE was an OG Discordian that basically applied the chaos magic principal to martial arts in a way that produced a sort of esoteric MMA. I'm fucking STOKED!!

 :magick: :pax:

okay this sounds fascinating. Can you send me some links?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on April 10, 2020, 02:20:28 am
If I started a thread for my adventures in infusing booze, would there be any interest?
oh heck yea, this sounds awesome
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:23:26 am
"I only have one person in my head but he's an ASSHOLE."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:34:40 am
On debate politics dot com:

"None of you people understand the genius of Victor Davis Hanson."

This was said by someone with a totally straight face.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 02:50:30 am
 :lulz:

If he was so smart, how did a fictional person burn down his vineyard?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 02:52:08 am
:lulz:

If he was so smart, how did a fictional person burn down his vineyard?

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 10, 2020, 03:20:59 am
On debate politics dot com:

"None of you people understand the genius of Victor Davis Hanson."

This was said by someone with a totally straight face.
:eek: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 03:29:07 am
While you've all being "having fun" and "talking to other" and "being social" I have been pursuing far more worthy pursuits. Namely, conquering Cyrodiil.

Yes, all of it. (https://i.imgur.com/WV0LRzt.png) This is apparently good enough to catapult me to being 193rd in line to being Emperor (or in the case of this character, Empress).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2020, 03:47:21 am
193? What do you need to do to become the successor then? Presumably 192 radiant dark brotherhood quests.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 03:59:59 am
 :lulz: The thought occured, especially since this character is a member of the DB. I just gotta have more points than anyone else. Oh and my alliance has to control the ring of forts around the Imperial City.

It'll never happen on this server, but I could probably do it on another one with a little time and effort.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 06:07:18 am
Well that was amazing right up until I tried to share my screen and managed to crash the room program, my browser, and freeze up my computer in stark terror for about five minutes.

I usually close around midnight anyway, but I wish I had not tried to fly so close to the sun. I gotta crash myself. I will reopen tomorrow morning between 8 and 9 central time. Later spags!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 10, 2020, 06:08:23 am
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.

Consider for a moment, war movies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 06:11:19 am
Annnnd we just invented starfish porn.

Consider for a moment, war movies.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: and on that note...GOOOODnight everybody!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 01:52:55 pm
Here's your badge. It's not theft when the Government does it. It's immanent domain. Welcome to Yoinksec. There's no money in it and if you get caught the government will claim that you never worked for them, but FREEDOM is it's own reward.

Things I may have said on FB.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 12:56:07 am
room crashed. back up shortly
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 01:27:18 am
Bailed on the room.  I have had a craptastic day, and I got talked over for about a minute, each time I tried to say what my troll idea was.  I am not up to that shit right now.  Maybe later.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 01:37:14 am
Fuckin' rage demons are hopping today.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 01:39:09 am
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 01:43:53 am
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.

It's cool.  Don't take it as a slam from me, I am just not fit for human company right now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 11, 2020, 03:33:44 am
My apologies too. Iíve been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.

If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, canít wait to get to working on the fucker.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 06:34:34 am
My apologies too. Iíve been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.

If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, canít wait to get to working on the fucker.

Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 11, 2020, 07:16:42 am
My apologies too. Iíve been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.

If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, canít wait to get to working on the fucker.

Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?

What kind of being him are we talking? Variants or 100%? Variants probably lasts longer, 100% maximizes butthurt.

Your troll, your rules, I just want to know what they are.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 12:30:40 pm
It's cool. I'm sorry for that Roger. Closing shop for the night. need sleep. will reopen in the morning around 10 central. My brain needs to reboot entirely, I'm on about 4 hrs on the last 24. Gonna just try for a solid 9 or 10. Goodnight folks! It was a fruitful day overall.

It's cool.  Don't take it as a slam from me, I am just not fit for human company right now.

As a guy that has occasional, and once VERY common, rage demons myself I can appreciate that you at least disengage rather than get abusive. It was abrupt and confusing. I at first thought you had gotten upset at the noncompliant software, but I realized from your voice that you were too UPSET for that and realized that we had been essentially talking over and past you to some degree. I know you well enough to know that THAT and belittlement from a peer or friend SET YOU OFF. I think that there is probably a need for some adjustment to social ettiquette necessary in using such virtual spaces. with just three voices on a line at the same time things can descend into chaos signal wise VERY quickly.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 12:33:10 pm
My apologies too. Iíve been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.

If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, canít wait to get to working on the fucker.

Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?

I must bow out in that I have too many irons in the fire already, but that is a brilliant way to attack his identity complex.
 :notnice:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2020, 05:13:35 pm
room is open for the day.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 12, 2020, 04:04:38 am
I think I found Cramulus' developmentally challenged 2nd cousin on a "luciferian" FB group. Presented without context as an OP.


Chaos theory explained.

Im obsessed with it for a long time.
Still am. Think we live indife of fractals.

To emphasize how huge this was to me, when I found the fibonacci sequence InSIDE this fractal, I didnt sleep for a week
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 12:48:19 am
I never thought trolling a bunch of self proclaimed "Luciferians" could bring such joy!

I posted this and have no regrets. It's actually brought some of the smart(ish) people out of hiding.

Quote
Seems a mod is complaining about being complained TO about lack of debate, satanist wankery, and lack of meaningful engagement in the group. Allow me to post therefore a strong and contentious opinion to remedy that a bit. The reason for this is that "Lucifer" is in fact himself a pretentious, disengaged, self absorbed wanker that couldn't fight his way out of the wet paper bag he got stuffed into after his failed "rebellion", much less LEAD anyone human or otherwise to REAL freedom. His obsessive focus on his rather severe Daddy issues prevents him from doing anything that does not feed into the narcissism that inevitably consumes a fallen seraph. And so by the law of attraction the minds that tend to cling to him in fauning adulation likewise mirror his flaws. I'm pretty sure he secretly HATES this and so remains in a position where he is king of a kingdom that he can barely tolerate because deep, deep down he KNOWS this to be the truth, but must remain outwardly a leadership figure or his "comrades" will smell weakness and turn on him.

DISCUSS!!! Or are you too perhaps timid to engage in SERIOUS self reflection?



They haven't nuked me yet... suckers.
 :notnice:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 04:08:13 am
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3.  It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery.  It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.

It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Frontside Back on April 13, 2020, 05:45:55 am
I never thought trolling a bunch of self proclaimed "Luciferians" could bring such joy!

I posted this and have no regrets. It's actually brought some of the smart(ish) people out of hiding.

Quote
Seems a mod is complaining about being complained TO about lack of debate, satanist wankery, and lack of meaningful engagement in the group. Allow me to post therefore a strong and contentious opinion to remedy that a bit. The reason for this is that "Lucifer" is in fact himself a pretentious, disengaged, self absorbed wanker that couldn't fight his way out of the wet paper bag he got stuffed into after his failed "rebellion", much less LEAD anyone human or otherwise to REAL freedom. His obsessive focus on his rather severe Daddy issues prevents him from doing anything that does not feed into the narcissism that inevitably consumes a fallen seraph. And so by the law of attraction the minds that tend to cling to him in fauning adulation likewise mirror his flaws. I'm pretty sure he secretly HATES this and so remains in a position where he is king of a kingdom that he can barely tolerate because deep, deep down he KNOWS this to be the truth, but must remain outwardly a leadership figure or his "comrades" will smell weakness and turn on him.

DISCUSS!!! Or are you too perhaps timid to engage in SERIOUS self reflection?



They haven't nuked me yet... suckers.
 :notnice:
:lulz:

As good as satanists are for trolling christians, reading bible upside down is still essentially reading a bible.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 08:39:40 am
My apologies too. Iíve been nonstop working on getting that damn site to feed me pages (it seems to despise mobile) and finally managed it.

If you are up to it, throw me anything I can help you out with in dealing with the troll. Broke open the post history finally around ten minutes ago and just about choked on my soda. Real piece of something, canít wait to get to working on the fucker.

Thing is, why don't we log in as variations of APDST, steal his sig, his profile pic, etc, and then be him until he chokes out?

I have changed my mind Dok. If we do this we can use my zoom space as a command center of sorts, and It's your show. We just posse up, lock the meeting perhaps, and ride out. Trolling "luciferians" is fun, but shooting fish in a barrel. I can't dedicate a LOT of time, but I definitely CAN dedicate some if we schedule and coordinate right. I REALLY wanted the druid thing to happen and it fizzled. This is less to my taste, but it's doing The Lord's Work politically. I want to make it go.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 08:49:14 am
Just checked up on the Luciferian thread. Gutless cowards had THE NERVE to nuke the thread, but not the spine to ban me. Fuck them. waste of time entirely.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 10:40:18 am
Quote
Next year these kids are getting Easter eggs filled with bees.

One of my most enlightened friends that I wish I could bring in here, but he's got kids and a life and shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Faust on April 13, 2020, 10:50:57 am
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3.  It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery.  It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.

It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.

I didnt like it, the plot was from mass effect, the federation had become bush era politics, the world looked like discount store blade runner, and I thought every scene, everything the show thought was ghe important plot point to bring to the surface was boring.
I dont like discovery but I prefer discovery to Picard. It at least feels like exploration
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 11:30:26 am
Binge watching Picard while I wait for Discovery season 3.  It's better than TNG, but not as good as Discovery.  It would be better if the director didn't try to get so cute with the pacing.

It would also be better if there was less Picard failure wankery.

I didnt like it, the plot was from mass effect, the federation had become bush era politics, the world looked like discount store blade runner, and I thought every scene, everything the show thought was ghe important plot point to bring to the surface was boring.
I dont like discovery but I prefer discovery to Picard. It at least feels like exploration

I've only seen the first episode of Picard and from the feedback I'm hearing don't think I would like it much, but it was nice and seemed to be going for a heavy intrigue story. Howl explicitly recommended Discovery to me and I'm even considering giving CBS real money to do so because apparently Netflix is showing it everywhere BUT the US for some strange reason.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2020, 03:08:16 pm
If you don't know the Mass Effect storyline I would say give it a go.

Otherwise, I would recommend HBO's The Outsider. It's a Stephen King adaptation, so you know it's not going to be terrible, and the cast are all pretty good. It is some pretty dark and horrific content matter though, of course.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 03:23:19 pm
My friend.. my.. my Music Theory Professor friend is more dangerous than I ever beliieved. The things he did to me... I don't know if the link still works, but it was like a nightmare fun-house that I couldn't get out of. I had to close the tab. It was the only way.

http://3.18.112.125:8080/timbre/yocco1/experiment
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 13, 2020, 04:20:02 pm
AT LAST, not only are we mostly done painting (after finishing the fucking drywall), the cabinets are being installed! We haven't had a kitchen since literally November and the end of this bullshit is in sight.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 08:24:10 pm
Today I found out that I have an aunt, 4 cousins, and 9 second cousins I never knew about.

My grandfather got up to monkey business in England during the second world war, and there were results, which we found out from his declassified records.  I just got an email back from one of my "new" cousins, and we're going to do a mass skype thing to welcome them all into the Howl family.

Life is weird, but can sometimes have it's nice moments.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 08:30:48 pm
THAT is pretty cool. I knida like the sound of s "Clan Howl" and am now imagining a LOT of Scottish folk sort of "slav squatting" in kilts... I kind got what I deserved there, But It's neat that your kin are getting to know ya!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 08:31:38 pm
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.

I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant.  He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.

His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman.  I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.

(Note:  This is not the terrible old man.  This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 08:32:49 pm
THAT is pretty cool. I knida like the sound of s "Clan Howl" and am now imagining a LOT of Scottish folk sort of "slav squatting" in kilts... I kind got what I deserved there, But It's neat that your kin are getting to know ya!

Our family has never been big on formalities like being married, running around, etc.  I mean, granddad should be ashamed of cheating on his wife, but that doesn't reflect on Kathleen and her offspring.  She's family now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 08:32:59 pm
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.

I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant.  He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.

His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman.  I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.

(Note:  This is not the terrible old man.  This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)

THAT IS AMAZING!!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2020, 08:46:49 pm
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 13, 2020, 11:50:47 pm
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2020, 11:57:05 pm
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.

My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape. 

What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 14, 2020, 12:03:01 am
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.

My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape. 

What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.

I would tend to agree, as it happens. I'm against the death penalty on general principle (it's hard to take back what you did), but doing people in in quiet corners doesn't send the right message.

The right message of course being "if this ever happens again, someone will come after you. They won't stop, they will expose you to the world, and then you will go to prison for the rest of your life. Or you will hang. Not for being an "enemy" who lost a war, not for your skin colour or religion. But because of your own actions, or inactions, for your complete and utter moral failings."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 14, 2020, 12:04:57 am
Sometimes, doing it by the book is the very worst thing you can do to someone.

My grandfather would have considered doing them in as being the same as letting them escape. 

What's funny is that he never lied to us about what he did overseas, he said he "helped clean up the mess" which is accurate.

I never thought of it that way, but yeah. I have to agree. Once you let it get personal, they kinda "win" just a little bit in death as a martyr of sorts rather than as a duly processed criminal. Fuck. I kinda have to rethink some things now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 14, 2020, 03:39:46 am
Congrats on the expanded family, Roger, and the cool Grandpa.


Also, shit should be calming down wrt home renovation eating up my entire fucking day soon (hence why I haven't done any Zoom things) but perhaps would anybody be interested in watch parties via Zoom or Discord?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2020, 03:45:00 am
Congrats on the expanded family, Roger, and the cool Grandpa.

There's always room in the Howl.


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Also, shit should be calming down wrt home renovation eating up my entire fucking day soon (hence why I haven't done any Zoom things) but perhaps would anybody be interested in watch parties via Zoom or Discord?

Things have been balls to the wall at work, which is why I haven't been on Zoom, either.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 15, 2020, 01:22:28 am
On a less pleasant point, I now know what my grandfather did from December 1944 - June 1947.

I mean, I'm proud of him, but it's not pleasant.  He basically helped shut down death camps for a few months, then spent the rest of the time rounding up escaped guards and SS officers for their necktie parties.

His records mention that he is almost unique in the fact that nobody had accidents in his custody, and all lived to meet the hangman.  I always remember him as being cold blooded, but that's a whole new level.

(Note:  This is not the terrible old man.  This was my other grandfather, who died in 1990.)

War isn't pleasant. Especially that goddamn war.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 15, 2020, 01:23:39 am
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.

I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.

The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 15, 2020, 02:57:22 am
Congrats Suu
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2020, 04:16:03 am
Congratulations, Suu.  I got you something.

hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 15, 2020, 04:32:34 am
Congratulations, Suu.  I got you something.

hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/

Oh hale yes, I lurve these types.

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And when they start starving they will remember you... They will remember you were buying food... They will come begging borrowing and stealing because you talked. Loose lips sink ships. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

You cannot change what has been done, but you can shore up your opsec by not revealing what you have to anyone else and hopefully you have a secondary location for some of your supplies.

Oh man. OH MAN.

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"Spreading the ideas of freedom loving people on matters regarding high finance, politics, constructionist Constitution, and mental masturbation of all types"

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2020, 04:34:28 am
Congratulations, Suu.  I got you something.

hxxps://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/my-facebook-friends-are-laughing-at-me.357832/

Oh hale yes, I lurve these types.

Quote
And when they start starving they will remember you... They will remember you were buying food... They will come begging borrowing and stealing because you talked. Loose lips sink ships. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

You cannot change what has been done, but you can shore up your opsec by not revealing what you have to anyone else and hopefully you have a secondary location for some of your supplies.

Oh man. OH MAN.

That place has aged well.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 01:25:06 pm
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.

I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.

The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.


GO SUUUU!! That's such a good feeling.


When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.

Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2020, 01:41:52 pm
Scrid, dust off a bottle of that wicked old, potentially contaminated champagne.

I just paid off the first of 4 student loans.

The last 2 are federal, and will probably follow me to the grave, but goddamnit, I'm taking this small victory.


GO SUUUU!! That's such a good feeling.


When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.

Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.

 :lulz: :lulz: I could be wrong, but I think that they still can't close the account until you actually cash it and complete the transaction.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Richter on April 15, 2020, 03:01:19 pm
Grats! 




When I made my final student loan payment, I intentionally overpaid by 5 cents.

Then they can't close your account until your balance is 0, so they mailed me a check for 5 cents.
Receiving a check from Sallie Mae felt incredible. I still have it.

 :mittens:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2020, 07:36:10 pm
Just posted this to FB. Gonna share it to several groups too.



This is one of my poems. T.W. Joseph is my pen name. Feel free to toss it around. They're FREE, and you effectively get to keep the one you toss! Just google "ERIS" if you don't know the name. It may not all make sense at first, but just keep learning about Her and a lot of things about the world begin to click into place
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2020, 08:41:57 pm
Just for the record I want to say that I consider limericks to be the coronaviruses of the poetry world, and myself a memetic, hermetic, heretic, terrorist of sorts that has figured out that you can accomplish some TERRIBLE things and never once break any enforceable laws in a "free society". I love my work.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 15, 2020, 11:07:19 pm
My grandmother's funeral mass was livestreamed on Zoom today.

Funerals are weird.

Funerals during a pandemic are extra weird.

Funerals during a pandemic on Zoom are surreal.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: LMNO on April 16, 2020, 12:56:41 pm
Sorry to hear about your grandmother.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 16, 2020, 01:55:37 pm
Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 16, 2020, 07:56:00 pm
Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 04:17:21 am
Sorry about your grandmother, Juana.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 04:18:45 am
Is it wrong to suggest that Carnival Cruise Liners be used as practice drones for our submarines?

People are still trying to sign up for these fucking things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on April 17, 2020, 02:36:04 pm
Hey, with ticket prices going through the floor due to fuck all demand, I suspect a few operators will have to get pretty creative to avoid going bust.

Remember how the UK ran prison hulks before sending folk to Australia? I can see the US running a similar deal. Off to the sanatorium ships with you. And half of you will totally support it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on April 17, 2020, 02:39:20 pm
Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it

This. Sincere condolences, both on the loss and funeral experience. Added strange on top of a bad time is less than pleasant.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 17, 2020, 03:41:39 pm
Sorry about your grandmother, Juana.

Yeah that's a uniquely terrible and surreal 2020 experience, sorry to hear it

This. Sincere condolences, both on the loss and funeral experience. Added strange on top of a bad time is less than pleasant.

Thanks, friends.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 18, 2020, 12:38:52 am
I think in the future, the calendar will skip from 2019 to 2021. We'll all be like, "2020?" *slides on sunglasses* "I don't know her."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 12:41:58 am
I think in the future, the calendar will skip from 2019 to 2021. We'll all be like, "2020?" *slides on sunglasses* "I don't know her."

 8) New phone, who dis? 2020? I ain't heard of her. *click*
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 01:44:48 am
ZOOM POETRY JAM WITH Q.G.!!!!
 :regret: :banana: :sexybeast: :banana: :sexybeast: :banana: :monkeydance:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 18, 2020, 02:04:52 am
Are we on?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 18, 2020, 02:06:24 am
Well, shit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 02:18:11 am
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 18, 2020, 02:21:36 am
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?

I want into the poetry thing!
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 02:27:00 am
My room is down for the moment? You wnt into the poetry thing?

I want into the poetry thing!

We are wrapping up soon, but I have it straight from Q.G.to invite you both for next friday
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 18, 2020, 02:34:53 am
ok my room is back up again till midnight central time
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 18, 2020, 03:47:22 pm
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 18, 2020, 11:37:52 pm
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.

1.  Is she aware of your awful driving?

2.  Cramulan promises are worth the latex they are formed from.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2020, 01:12:08 am
Um, way to welcome me back hours early and dunk on my joke.  Sons of bitches.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 20, 2020, 02:07:00 am
Um, way to welcome me back hours early and dunk on my joke.  Sons of bitches.

 :lulz:

 :regret:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 20, 2020, 12:49:20 pm
My computer is dead and typing on my phone sucks. I'm working during the pandemic and buying a condo with my girlfriend. Cramulus promised me dildos if I came back here. Be well spags.

I promised you dildoes

but remember that you must always phrase your wish very carefully



welcome back you piece of shit
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 20, 2020, 08:10:20 pm
The thing I hate most about this is that I can't check up on my kids. There's a couple I'm worried about for various reasons.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 21, 2020, 09:55:13 pm
To the surprise of utterly no one, I have helium handed my dumb ass into a lead organizer position in the local covid mutual aid group.

Poetry night is Friday 8pm Eastern, ping me for a link.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 21, 2020, 10:15:31 pm
I am not surprised  :lulz:

I would love to know more about mutual aid groups and what they're up to right now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on April 22, 2020, 12:38:11 am
I am not surprised  :lulz:

I would love to know more about mutual aid groups and what they're up to right now.

For the most part groups are either working with or being run by the usual DSA and anarchist suspects, with a good mix of other Antifa and leftists. Generally the focus has been on getting grocery delivery going for people isolated due to vulnerability or illness (the former who can't risk getting sick, and the latter who can't risk getting others sick), and connecting folks with formal assistance. Some places are more vocal in their support for rent strikes than others. I'm in a weird group that is kinda working with the city, but only in the sense that we are telling them what's what and they're grateful there's an adult in the room. Some groups are letting the city call all the shots, and others can't imagine cooperating with anyone. We're also working to connect wealthier communities with ones in greater need to redistribute resources.

I would take a look on google and facebook for your local area. There may also be posters going up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 22, 2020, 02:08:05 am
That's more or less what mine is up to, as well as checking in on people.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 22, 2020, 09:29:34 am
Iíve been away from the forum for stress reasons. Sometimes I need to forget the world is burning. Here, itís as easy as not opening the wrong websites ó unfortunately, including this one. Sorry.

Itís just that some days I can choose to either avoid the news, have a mental breakdown, or become a sociopath. Flipping the empathy switch off is something easy to do for me, and hard to undo: I hope you understand.

For those of you having stress, QGP has my number and I trust almost all of you to use it well if you need it, just PM me. I canít do a goddamn thing but try my best to hold up folks who have done a fuck ton for me. Iím not excellent at that. Iím not great at a lot of things. But if putting the goddamn effort in and having way too much empathy helps, know that Iím here.

Iím also great at geeking out about random shit extremely intensely, and being an interested listener for the same. So if you just want some low grade escapism, Iím good for that too.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 22, 2020, 01:43:32 pm
Iíve been away from the forum for stress reasons. Sometimes I need to forget the world is burning. Here, itís as easy as not opening the wrong websites ó unfortunately, including this one. Sorry.

Itís just that some days I can choose to either avoid the news, have a mental breakdown, or become a sociopath. Flipping the empathy switch off is something easy to do for me, and hard to undo: I hope you understand.

For those of you having stress, QGP has my number and I trust almost all of you to use it well if you need it, just PM me. I canít do a goddamn thing but try my best to hold up folks who have done a fuck ton for me. Iím not excellent at that. Iím not great at a lot of things. But if putting the goddamn effort in and having way too much empathy helps, know that Iím here.

Iím also great at geeking out about random shit extremely intensely, and being an interested listener for the same. So if you just want some low grade escapism, Iím good for that too.

For my part I very much enjoy our chats in the zoom room. I should be up most of the day after 10 central or so.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 22, 2020, 04:47:06 pm
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 22, 2020, 05:24:39 pm
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 22, 2020, 05:42:13 pm
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?

Yeah. I shell out $16 a month or so for a 1 host 100 person room that I can keep open indefinitely and run it sort of like a club, opening and closing daily. PM me and I can give you the code if you like.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 22, 2020, 05:51:03 pm
I kinda have abandoned zoom bc their whole "40m time limit for EVERYONE!" *Oprah-esque arm waving* do you have a non basic account, Joseph?

Yeah. I shell out $16 a month or so for a 1 host 100 person room that I can keep open indefinitely and run it sort of like a club, opening and closing daily. PM me and I can give you the code if you like.

Juana, this is really a lot of fun, especially on Friday.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 22, 2020, 05:54:21 pm
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.

CLOVE EATING CONTEST

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 22, 2020, 05:55:15 pm
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.

CLOVE EATING CONTEST


 :notfunny:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 22, 2020, 06:00:46 pm
Today I discovered that sucking on a clove makes my tongue go slightly numb, and also makes me nauseous.

CLOVE EATING CONTEST


Are you trying to simulate hemophilia?  Because this is how you hemorrhage.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 22, 2020, 06:11:23 pm
CLOVE EATING CONTEST


I started chewing on the clove and the nausea subsided but now my mouth is even number and it tastes like a pharmacy exhibit at a 1890's historical museum.

Y'know, "Wonder oil, for external use only."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 23, 2020, 07:08:59 am
I just now got a message from earlier in the day.

I have to find somewhere to live by May 7th.

During the fucking plague.

Hit me up if you have ideas, Iím out of fucking luck here: everyone else I know has stretched their resources to the last, and I think this is the end of the line finally.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 24, 2020, 03:46:18 pm
That blows ass, altered.  :|
I'm sorry that I don't have any ideas for you.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 26, 2020, 07:03:45 pm
Not going to have the Zoom room open today. need a break. Will resume operation Monday morning after 10 or so A.M. central time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 27, 2020, 02:05:11 pm
Quoted without context.

Quote from: Aqua
He said he drank a lot of chicken soup and smoothies... I can see how chicken soup has remedy in it, since chicken flock together, like bats.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 04:51:50 pm
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 04:52:35 pm
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 27, 2020, 09:50:19 pm
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:51:08 pm
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.

I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on April 28, 2020, 01:00:18 am
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.

I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.

I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2020, 01:05:49 am
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.

I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.

I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.

Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble.  Right from the very beginning.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on April 28, 2020, 08:33:09 am
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.

I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.

I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.

Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble.  Right from the very beginning.

No like, beyond that, there was a cyclical thing about "the February mood", but the 2012 one was particularly toxic
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 29, 2020, 03:50:47 am
So when exactly did we slip into horrormirth 24/7?

In Arizona, it will be April 30th.

It feels like I have been living smack dab in the middle of it for years.

I need to check exact dates, but we entered the strange times about 8 years ago and I've been preaching the dawn of the horrible times over the last 18ish months, so it would be around 1985ish.

I have horrid memory, but werent we all in PD having a huge meltdown? Like everyones life full of stress and everyone going at each others throat. I dont even remember if there was something in the social system or whatever system, just it happened to coincide for all of us on a personal level.

Until a couple of years ago, PD was ALWAYS a rumble.  Right from the very beginning.

No like, beyond that, there was a cyclical thing about "the February mood", but the 2012 one was particularly toxic

When was the Large Hadron Collider turned on? I blame that thing.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on April 29, 2020, 04:33:53 am
My boss used the phrase, "He just cost us $10,000 in billable stupid," and it really accurately protrayed what happened.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 29, 2020, 05:41:20 am
Tomorrow may be very strange depending on how much I can trust the state government.

I figured out why I wasnít getting unemployment. And after I fixed it, it said ďnext business dayĒ.

For four weeks minimum of payment.

I lost track of how many times I filled the form out, but definitely no less than four. No more than six either, but thatís past the point of giving a fuck.

I might be financially okay, at least, for a little bit.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on April 29, 2020, 01:38:37 pm
THAT'S a relief. Do you have any leads on a living situation yet?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 29, 2020, 04:52:13 pm
THAT'S a relief. Do you have any leads on a living situation yet?

Yeah, but only for an unknown length of time in Texas. Fort Worth. No one else has the space or energy to put someone up.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 29, 2020, 05:45:02 pm
Ok the Zoom room is up and running. should be up until midnight central time.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:32:57 pm
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!

Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Trivial on April 29, 2020, 09:49:27 pm
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!

Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.

I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work. 

We deal with weather machines that put graphics up for TV stations.  In the US, at least right now, it's incredibly easy to do because the data is free* and in a format we've already deciphered to make pretty for TV. Canada also gives us nicely formatted data.  Other countries, well you need someone who can look at what they have and then make some sort of automation to make it like the US data.  At least it's easier than making the software use the data.

Anyway, sales says to data guy, is this good?  Data guy says yes, it's all there, all good.  Sales guy puts sales through sends them equipment.  Trainer tries training, and they have no data. Tech finds data sources, send to machine. No data in graphics. Programmer looks at machine, sees data sees everything working, nothing wrong in software.

Data guy neglected to mention the bespoke script he'd have to make to make the data nice. Never got the work order from sales, never worked on it. All good to him meant that yes he has something to work with that he can make readable, not that it was readable out of the box.

So anyway, a lot of work was done on an assumption that something was good and no one else checked to see was good. 



*if you have a NOAA port, something like $70,000
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 29, 2020, 09:54:05 pm
Ah, gotchu.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 29, 2020, 11:42:01 pm
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!

Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.

Weirdly, the site says the payments were issued today, but I havenít received them still. My assumption is a 48 hour hold or something, but I worry because if I donít receive them... it is impossible to reach anybody to ask about it. Like, ďyour hold time may be two hours or moreĒ followed by force-disconnecting your call, so you canít hold.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2020, 12:37:05 am
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=38784.msg1438645#msg1438645 date=1588193367]
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!

Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.

I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work.  [/quote]

That was years ago.  Today we heated a stuffed bison to 101.7 F as a test.

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2020, 12:37:28 am
Quote
My boss used the phrase, "He just cost us $10,000 in billable stupid," and it really accurately protrayed what happened.

Welcome to Hamish's World.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2020, 01:56:28 am
Got an official letter from the IRS today. Thought it might be some problem with my federal returns, but no. It's MUCH worse than that. It was Donnie's letter of whatever telling me I got that stimulus. It's so LIKE him and his whole methodology. I know for a fact because I just checked today that I got no money, and yet here he is making sure he personally gets credit while I get stiffed. That is literally his ENTIRE business model.
 :dream:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 30, 2020, 02:03:16 am
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I canít even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just wonít be anyone there.

So I have to find an option for May 7th still.

I had the only service that didnít outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.

Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isnít giving me?

Will also accept any sort of call. Iím stuck in my head and itís a fucked up place, I need an escape.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2020, 02:24:11 am
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I canít even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just wonít be anyone there.

So I have to find an option for May 7th still.

I had the only service that didnít outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.

Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isnít giving me?

Will also accept any sort of call. Iím stuck in my head and itís a fucked up place, I need an escape.

Zoom room is open and you're always welcome. Not sure I can be of any help Absolutely certain I can do nothing effective and am myself pretty fucked up inside, but I'm around.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 30, 2020, 02:30:11 am
In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I canít even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just wonít be anyone there.

So I have to find an option for May 7th still.

I had the only service that didnít outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.

Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isnít giving me?

Will also accept any sort of call. Iím stuck in my head and itís a fucked up place, I need an escape.

Zoom room is open and you're always welcome. Not sure I can be of any help Absolutely certain I can do nothing effective and am myself pretty fucked up inside, but I'm around.

Zoom is saying host needs to start the meeting. Can you throw me what it says the number is, just in case?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 30, 2020, 02:40:32 am
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=38784.msg1438645#msg1438645 date=1588193367]
TriviQ, you can't say that and not tell the story! *Chin hands* spill the tea!

Hooray for money, Alter!! I'm sorry to hear TX is a temporary solution tho.

I'm not sure how to explain it in an interesting way, it's not like poopslosions that occur with Roger's work. 

That was years ago.  Today we heated a stuffed bison to 101.7 F as a test.


[/quote]

I am confused and intrigued as to why.

In a shocking turn of events, my only plan (Texas) imploded one hour after I last posted. I had to cancel the ticket, it is not and will never be an option, and the worst part is I canít even be mad: it was an emergency that has nothing to do with me, there just wonít be anyone there.

So I have to find an option for May 7th still.

I had the only service that didnít outright tell me to ask elsewhere try not to laugh when I asked about their waiting list. I called a few crisis lines and was told by all of them that there is no solution. None. Period.

Anyone have any ideas, places to call, resources to dig into that Google isnít giving me?

Will also accept any sort of call. Iím stuck in my head and itís a fucked up place, I need an escape.
I am so sorry, Alt. Wish I could help more directly beyond, like, a discord call.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2020, 03:22:57 am
altered and I be chatting now.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Suu on April 30, 2020, 04:54:27 am
I need to figure out when I can safely go see my parents. Jephph is now fully banned from travel until June 30th, so the fleeting chance we still had to go to the UK is gone at this point, and I need to get on all those fun refunds and reschedulings and it's giving me horrid anxiety.

 Dad had to go back to work because the DoD said so, and that's okay because they're out of money. So out of money that I'm Venmoing my mom cash for food. My brother is useless, and my dad travels in addition to being physically disabled, so mom needs serious help around the house. With my sister and BIL being essential, they can't come over, but I'm not working, but also 4 hours away. Some things will have to wait until Jeff can get over there, but for the most part, I can help mom with some pretty tough shit.

Florida is starting its 4 stage program next week, similar to what CA is doing, but probably stupider. DeSantis came out SHOOK today, so I think our Surgeon General, after getting kicked out of the last meeting, took him out back to the woodshed and laid into him.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2020, 06:02:14 am


I am confused and intrigued as to why.


Because that was its body temperature when alive.

And we need that for the sorting software test.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 30, 2020, 06:17:30 am
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.

The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and itís light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause itís not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.

The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

Iíve been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and itís hitting the same five chords in random order.

The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so Iím going inside.

To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesnít respect horror movie rules.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on April 30, 2020, 10:19:49 am
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.

The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and itís light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause itís not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.

The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

Iíve been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and itís hitting the same five chords in random order.

The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so Iím going inside.

To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesnít respect horror movie rules.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMcFOfouVk4

NYC transformer fire couple years ago... anything like it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 30, 2020, 10:45:40 am
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 30, 2020, 01:10:50 pm
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.

"If you're cold, they're cold. Let demonic screaming UFOs inside."
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 30, 2020, 01:57:16 pm
I went outside, and somewhere in the distance is this unending ghostly fucking wail, changing pitch randomly, never pausing. Off in that direction is a horrible weird orange light, not like sodium lamps, more reddish.

The local lighthouse is off in that direction, and itís light is off. The orange light is far lower to the ground, closer, and brighter to the eye cause itís not reflecting off of the clouds and dust. It is not a fire: it is perfectly steady and has no yellow, looks more like inside of a hot gas forge. One the size of a house.

The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

Iíve been out here fifteen minutes and it has not so much as paused, and itís hitting the same five chords in random order.

The sound (but not the light) is moving around, and it just got closer, so Iím going inside.

To be clear, I made it inside and locked the door before sending this. At no point did I attempt to investigate it, beyond looking to see if that light was a fire. I did not approach. So, you know, if I don't post tomorrow it doesnít respect horror movie rules.

Jesus. Anything in the local news about it?
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 30, 2020, 03:00:03 pm
The whole thing has a UFO feeling, crossed with a demonic summoning.

With the lockdown the poor thing is probably desperate for attention.

"If you're cold, they're cold. Let demonic screaming UFOs inside."

Here ya go. is an meme! FOIA application accepted.Thanks Obama.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on April 30, 2020, 03:34:38 pm
In order:

Not a transformer fire for sure: it was explicitly red-orange light, low to the ground, motionless and not flickering. The sound was not tinny or buzzy at all, it sounded like a choir that were hitting notes on the chromatic scale, or trying to sing The Rite of Spring or Prometheus or some other freaky orchestral piece full of synthetic chords. And the sound did move. It was my first thought, though!

Not a cold evening, sorry to say.

No such thing as local news here: this is the area where the exurbs become the rural. I would be the one to report it, probably, given it was on the property of the folks hosting me  and itís unlikely anyone else noticed a weird sound and light at 1AM.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on April 30, 2020, 03:54:09 pm
TWJ, I approve.

And it may not have been cold for us, but for aliens? Who can say.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on April 30, 2020, 05:24:24 pm
That is some high weirdness.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on April 30, 2020, 06:52:33 pm
That is some high weirdness.

Definitely. I guess itís not a UFO since it sounds like it wasnít flying, but itís something.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 02:44:21 am
Update on weird sounds/lights:

Theyíre back. Kind of.

Instead of one big orange light kinda far away, thereís ten or so white lights randomly strewn around in a copse of apple trees real close by. Like, 30 yards or so. Again: steady lighting, no movement. Reminds me that I didnít mention: the orange light didnít illuminate anything around it, and neither do these.

The sounds are pausing this time, intermittently going in and out of audibility. They arenít moving this time either, and seem to be coming from the other side of the lights.

If I was making wild ass guesses, Iíd say it sounds like if two birds that learned to mimic ambient music for horror games and have no other way of talking were chatting back and forth, but that overlooks the bizarre ... ďverisimilitude?Ē of it all. Like, it sounds less like something playing back a horror soundtrack and more like the actual ambience in a nightmarish otherworld. Loud enough to be echoing from nearby houses, too quiet to fucking record.

I still have not dared to investigate.

Iím also not particularly creeped out or threatened by these things, theyíre just high strangeness of a particularly odd sort. General vibe is something along the lines of UFO meets haunted moor now.

I have formed a theory: low budget horror film recording. Bunch of dumb teenagers trying to be spooky in the woods at night to shoot a movie.

Alternatively, an alien ship crashed out in the woods the other day and this is their ghosts haunting the place.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on May 01, 2020, 03:52:53 am
Update on weird sounds/lights:

Theyíre back. Kind of.

Instead of one big orange light kinda far away, thereís ten or so white lights randomly strewn around in a copse of apple trees real close by. Like, 30 yards or so. Again: steady lighting, no movement. Reminds me that I didnít mention: the orange light didnít illuminate anything around it, and neither do these.

The sounds are pausing this time, intermittently going in and out of audibility. They arenít moving this time either, and seem to be coming from the other side of the lights.

If I was making wild ass guesses, Iíd say it sounds like if two birds that learned to mimic ambient music for horror games and have no other way of talking were chatting back and forth, but that overlooks the bizarre ... ďverisimilitude?Ē of it all. Like, it sounds less like something playing back a horror soundtrack and more like the actual ambience in a nightmarish otherworld. Loud enough to be echoing from nearby houses, too quiet to fucking record.

I still have not dared to investigate.

Iím also not particularly creeped out or threatened by these things, theyíre just high strangeness of a particularly odd sort. General vibe is something along the lines of UFO meets haunted moor now.

I have formed a theory: low budget horror film recording. Bunch of dumb teenagers trying to be spooky in the woods at night to shoot a movie.

Alternatively, an alien ship crashed out in the woods the other day and this is their ghosts haunting the place.

Demonic parrots and giant fireflies.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on May 01, 2020, 03:54:40 am

And btw, it could very well be the making of a creepypasta, it actually gave me some chills down my spine.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 04:40:10 am
Iím more amused. I tend to be paranoid of weird ass shit, but this doesnít give me any bad vibes or anything, itís just like... whatís going on here? I posted about it in OB because itís a real thing happening and I figured maybe someone has heard of similar shit (singing bioluminescent algae or something?) and can inform me.

I really, really wish it was loud enough to record clearly. It gets buried in the crickets and frogs when I try to record it, despite being obviously neither of those things.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 07:08:00 am
So I managed to catch it on a recording! Itís really hard to hear, use your headphones and forgive my voice, but itís audible. It sounds half as loud as it actually is, just about, but still... audible.

I had two failed recordings due to Bluetooth headphones, so I didnít catch myself explaining:

The white lights are gone. And the orange one is back, closer, much dimmer, in a different area.

Also the sound is coming from a different direction altogether now. Before, it was coming from the same direction as the lights: southeast. Now itís roughly northeast.

Anyway, that sound, and some voiceover and random ass goddamn geese (after midnight???): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669694031839887364/705659514220838922/New_Recording.m4a

Youíll hear the pitch changes and changes in volume, but itís stuck doing the vibrato thing during recording. Normally itís a smooth whistling sound. Tonight itís mostly been all vibrato sounding, with some smoother parts fading in and out. Sadly, I did not catch it pausing, though you can mistake a fade out as it moves further away (and stops being picked up) for a brief pause.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Juana on May 01, 2020, 09:07:38 am
I hear geese at night once in a while but that other faint noise is unsettling.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2020, 11:56:02 am
I can't make out anything except your voice and the goose, but let me play around with it a bit in some other programs and I'll get back to you on that.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Johnny on May 01, 2020, 01:26:49 pm

Some sort of underground drill or gear? There's this set of phenomena that people call "the Hum" and in one occassion it was coming from some industrial production facility, but that could be heard from very far away.

Is there a construction site nearby or industrial complex?

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 01:50:05 pm
I'm listening to this right now, and I want to submit the following remarks:

1. Even though I'm not hearing it, this is all very creepy
2. I'm really enjoying this deep dive into 'a weird sound'. I'm exicted that I might hear a strange sound we can't explain.
3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP

 :dok:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on May 01, 2020, 02:20:35 pm
I can (barely) make out a high-pitched whistle, and am wondering if maybe something is being vented under pressure.  The volume/pitch could be connected to the rate at which the venting is happening.

If there's a petrochemical facility nearby, maybe they're flaring natural gas, which could account for both light and sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1VyICXpW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4BGvqjOqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4CiLzzx3s
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 06:07:15 pm
The flare would be too yellow, it would flicker and move, and it would be further off of the ground. Good thought, nonetheless!

There isnít anything out here though. Itís an hour to Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo from here, it exists as a place to live outside of the city that is further than the suburbs. Itís an hour walk to anywhere.

Itís either natural or amateur. This isnít the work of a company: the largest place in the area is a ďloggingĒ company that actually is just a hardware store that resells pre-cut lumber. Thatís only barely larger than the ďindustrial paint warehouseĒ (a garage that specializes in shitty camo paint jobs for cars), and the ďparty storeĒ (a bodega, down to the cat, transplanted to the Michigan wilderness).
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 06:29:16 pm

3. somebody remix this, LET THE BEAT DROP

 

And then LMNO filed a grievance, and Cramulus accidentally and nobody ever heard from him again.  :cry:
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2020, 07:00:15 pm
OK, having tried it on a number of different programs and things and listen to you say "that fucking goose" far too many times (you have a very soothing voice, btw) I think I'm hearing what you're talking about. I can't do anything fancy, like isolate it and bump it up, I'm not that technically adept when it comes to sound files or anything.

I also have no idea what it could be. I wouldn't mind a video of these lights, if you could get one.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 07:27:58 pm
A video would be pointless, because at these distances the strange part is that there simply isnít anything where the lights are, and thus should not be any lights at all.

They look like theyíre electric lights, nothing special. The orange one at its brightest wasnít even particularly bright, you could convince me a street lamp fell over if I didnít know what was off in that direction. None of them move visibly, none of them flicker, theyíre just lights.

The lack of illumination of the surroundings is more likely to be the illumination being comparatively dim, like when you stick a flashlight in a sock: itís still quite bright to look directly at but that light doesnít reflect nicely off of anything around it. Combined with distance, where glare from looking at a distant light washes out everything around that light, I canít see a point in taking video. But Iíll try to get some.

Given this is turning into a short project before I have to leave the area (I have 6 days left and no leads) it might be worth splitting these posts out of OB. Up to the mods of course.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on May 01, 2020, 07:44:26 pm
Here's a spectrogram.  The intermittent horizontal lines are altered speaking.  The vertical line at around 0.07 is likely the unknown sound.

Matlab isn't the best tool for this, and I'm running out of lunch break, but I can take a whack at isolating the sound after work, if no-one beats me to it.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: altered on May 01, 2020, 08:02:50 pm
It would be the frequency band just before the 0.1 on the X axis. You can see two large areas with me silent for most of them and saying something in the middle. That band cuts out just before the first one of the pauses (on the bottom, where it moved away and stopped being picked up, ďNot having much luck thereĒ) and is very strong during the second (ďItís very loud right nowĒ).

Edit: re read your post and you already said that.

In my defense, low blood sugar.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:09:15 pm
Here's a spectrogram.  The intermittent horizontal lines are altered speaking.  The vertical line at around 0.07 is likely the unknown sound.

Matlab isn't the best tool for this, and I'm running out of lunch break, but I can take a whack at isolating the sound after work, if no-one beats me to it.

interesting. I ran an analysis of the spectrogram using http://fotoforensics.com/, here it is.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:10:50 pm
going deeper...

I used https://compress-or-die.com/ to separate that image into different channels. Buckle your fuckin seat belts, the 'compression view' came out looking like this.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Cramulus on May 01, 2020, 08:14:22 pm
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...

Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 01, 2020, 08:24:21 pm
 :drama1:
This shit happening on PD is better than the X-files.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: minuspace on May 01, 2020, 08:32:26 pm
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...


Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.


*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 01, 2020, 08:37:11 pm
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...


Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.


*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*

Hint: It's a popular topical image used throughout human history
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Hoopla! on May 01, 2020, 09:15:29 pm
alright, I think we're finally getting to the root of it...


Has anyone made this one pop yet? Cause my eyes are getting tired.


*goes back to staring at the thing cross-eyed*

I can see *something* but cannot decide what it is. Knowing Cram and this forum itís likely goatse. Btw, I think this thread should be split, and I FUCKING LOVE IT.
Title: Re: Open Bar: Subpoenaed by Congress, but still refusing to testify
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 09:17:45 pm