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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: gnimbley on July 16, 2005, 12:04:35 am

Title: The PD.Com Boards Have Gone To Hell!!!
Post by: gnimbley on July 16, 2005, 12:04:35 am
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

How many times have you seen this headline? The boards suck. They
have gone to hell. They are boring. Yada yada yada.

And so what's your point?

What did you expect from the boards anyway? That they would conform
to your world view? That they would somehow, magically be full of only
the stuff that you are interested in? That they are here to entertain you?

Get real.

This is public web space, with no barrier of entry and minimal policing,
that exists in honor of a text glorifying the humorous, absurd and
unexpected, whose participants boast of being practical jokers and non-
conformists, and whose guiding principle is...

Are you ready for it?

...CHAOS.

That's right. These here forums are about chaos, the randomization of
matter in the universe, the constant bumping and banging of particle
against particle in no prearranged sequence, the underlying anti-
hierarchy of everything where nothing is better or worse than anything
else, where everything is where it is just because it is where it is.

What? You thought there were rules?

Apparently you do, because whenever you run off and start another
forum somewhere else the first thing you do is impose rules. And that's
fine. You can have all the rules you want and impose them to your
heart's content...

...somewhere else.

And the really funny thing? You get all bent out of shape and angry and
self-righteous - yes I am talking to you Turd and you Roger and you Taco
and the rest of you - whenever the posts in these forums don't comply
with whatever set of rules you have in your heads about what the correct
order of the universe should be.

As if you could impose order upon chaos.

Let me repeat myself.

Get real.

Somehow you think you should be accorded respect. That everyone
should agree with your view of things. That we should join you in
whatever crusade you are on to impose your will on the rest of us. That
somehow chaos is a malleable material that you can mold into whatever
shape you desire. That people should kiss your ass.

As fluffy would say, "pphhffffffftttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!"

Please show me the line in your contract which says we have to do
anything you say.



Welcome to the real world.

That's right. The real world. Not the artificial playground you are used to
on the internet, where everything is designed for you by some web
magician and you are constantly entertained by the amusing antics of a
stream of html. The real world. Where a bunch of independently
motivated sentient (or not) beings do whatever the hell they please
regardless of what you think they should do.

Like when you walk into a bank to withdraw a hundred dollars from your
account and there is a guy in there with a gun who points it at your head
and says get on the floor or die, bitch. Are you going to tell him that he
isn't giving you the proper respect?

Or when the government sends its agents to your place of business and
carries off all your accounting records and binds your wrists behind your
back and says come with me. Are you going to tell them that you don't
want to play in their sandbox anymore and go home?

Or when your girlfriend says that you don't respect her anymore and you
can take your fucking emo act and get the hell out of her life and then
proceeds to throw all your crap into the street. Are you going to say,
does this mean you and I aren't going to fuck anymore?

Or when your kid says that he's been banging this old guy down at the
club and he thinks he's contracted aids but its alright because
everybody's got aids these days and the people down at the clinic say
that a cure is just around the corner but he's going to need a lot more
money for the drugs and if you can't come up with it maybe he will just
have to start charging the old farts more for the blowjobs. Are you going
to demand that he shut the fuck up because you don't permit that kind of
talk in your house?

So, you come home from school or work, all tired from all the shit you
have to take from the other kids and you want to escape to your nice
fantasy world on the internet and suddenly you discover that it's been
invaded by the real world where people post stuff you don't want to hear
and do stuff you don't want them to do and you don't get your own way.

What do you do in the real world? Go to your room and pout? Harass
other people until they no longer want to have anything to do with you?
Get even? Make enemies of former friends? Post shit all over the
internet?

Yeah, you're mature.



And to all you people who think these boards are all fluff and joking
around and it doesn't matter what you say, because it's just the internet
anyway. Let me ask you one question.

Who is the most powerful person in the world?

Some of you are thinking George W or Putin or even bin Laden because
they have bombs and armies and such at their disposal. They can bust a
lot of stuff up and throw you into prisons. Yeah, they have a lot of power,
but that sign in Haldeman's office was dead wrong. Remember that sign?
"When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."
That was bullshit. Because when you have them by the balls, you may be
able to control the outer manifestation of their minds, but you will never
earn their hearts.

Some would say the Pope or the fundie preachers or the Islamic Imans.
But they are only trying to impose an arbitrary structure over human
activities, trying to control people by turning off their minds and
substituting ritual for reality. People follow them blindly, but not
voluntarily. Religious leaders don't change anything. They spend their
time desperately trying to keep things from changing. But as we know,
things always change.

Some of you would say Eris, but as we all know, Eris doesn't exist. That's
just an arbitrary label you stick on something you believe in.

So who is the most powerful person in the world?

First, let me tell you that a technological revolution is coming. We are
learning to modify DNA. Someday we will know how to modify human
DNA and remanufacture ourselves.

Computer technology keeps getting more sophisticated and more
powerful, on a seemingly exponential curve. Someday we will be build
computers with substantially more computing capacity than the human
brain.

Nanotechnology, the science of molecular scale engineering, is in its
infancy, but already proofs of concept of the basic building blocks of
nanomachines have been demonstrated in laboratory experiments.

And experiments in human/computer interface have been going on for
decades.

What does this mean? Eventually humans are going to merge with
machines, both literally through physical connections and biologically
through DNA modification.

Bet on it.

Oh, sure, the fundies will want to stop it, but they will fail. There is too
much momentum. It is too decentralized. It is interwoven into the fabric
of the scientific community.

Scientists are referring to the result as "trans-human" or even "post-
human". The most optimistic of them think it will arrive in the next 20 to
30 years. The pessimists think it will take a century.

But it is coming.

And it will change everything.

It will be a more complete change than even Turd in his wildest NRSA
fantasies can imagine.

Some of the scientists talk about a singularity. A point in time when
things change and it is impossible to see what is on the other side. Kind
of like the Big Bang or a black hole.

And guess who will be responsible for this.

Guess who will be in charge.

Kids.

The people who will be responsible for making this work are, today, kids.
They are the ones who will be doing the research ten years from now,
running the laboratories thirty years from now; they will be the ones to
change first; they will be the first to go trans-human.

And who do the kids listen to? Who has the most influence over their
minds today, right now, this minute?

Who is the most powerful person in the world?

Harry Potter.

Don't laugh. If you don't think that those books aren't going to be a
dominant influence on the minds of that generation, you obviously were a
zombie when you grew up.

And in part, I say Harry and not the author, because it is the character,
and what the character does, not the "lessons" that Rawlings (if she even
has lessons in mind) tried to instill in the kids, that influences the kids.

Who are your heroes? Who do you emulate?

Now Harry, of course, is going to try and instill the dominant paradigm on
the kids. What do you expect? Rawlings was a struggling single mother,
barely making it through life, and now she is richer than the Queen. Of
course she thinks this is a pretty good system. Look at what it did for her.

But for each Rawlings, there are thousands who the system grinds down
and defeats. You know that.

So what are you going to do about it?

Well, where are all these kids going to hang out? Clubs, school,
playgrounds, church socials, etc. Sure. But they are also going to hang
out...

...here. The internet.

This is where they come when they need more stimulation than they can
get in their own environment. Why did you come here?

The kids, the smart ones, the ones who are going to make a difference,
they are going to come to the internet, look at all the shiney, sparkley
things and...

...some of them are going to discover...

Are you ready for it?

...discordianism.

Yup. Some of them are going to end up here. Maybe for a minute. Maybe
they will read a couple of posts. Maybe they will make a couple of posts.
Maybe they will stay around and make a few friends and have a few
laughs.

Maybe.

But on that possibility we have an opportunity.

The opportunity to read one of Hugh's rants. The opportunity to read one
of Vertaine's epistles. The opportunity to read one of Roger's sermons.
The opportunity to read something you write. The opportunity to make
some friends and exchange some views and learn.

Which means we have the opportunity to influence the trans-humans.

Now, I am not saying we have to post tons of serious stuff. Who the hell
in their right minds wants to read just serious stuff? If they want to just
read just serious stuff, they sure as hell aren't coming here.

But we do have the opportunity to influence some. Give them a push in
the right direction. Tell them that what the world needs is not bigger and
better bombs, more jihads and politics as usual. What the world needs
is...

Fill in the blank.

But, you say, the internet is full of billions of documents, whole universes
of noise. What is the chance that anything I write is going to be
meaningful? Well, what is the chance that something you don't write will
be meaningful? Besides, you have been exposed to lots of noise in your
life, but some things stand out. Some things influence you. There is
always a chance.

And what is the chance that they will come to PrincipiaDiscordia.com?
Well, this is the main site. This is the one everybody links to. Even those
who have gone off and started their own sites end up back here. As trolls
if nothing else.

Let me also point out that you are more likely to be influenced by
something a friend says, than by something said by a contentious
asshole. If you want to influence the kids, you are going to have to
befriend them. Or at least, not drive them off. If you want your web site,
regardless of where it is, to be a breeding ground for discordian thinking,
you have to think of it as a community that welcomes n00bs, not as an
exclusive social club for "true discordians" or whatever you are calling
your clique.

If you are going to be an influence to the next stage of mankind's
evolution, do you stand a better chance by being a friend or by being an
asshole?

And there is no quicker way to label yourself as an asshole than to go
around calling other people assholes.

Which brings me full circle, I guess.

I didn't really set off to write all this. It's just some stuff I have had
banging around in my head. And I dumped it all out into the word
processor and now on you. So take it for what it is worth. Maybe it is self-
contradictory, but HEY! who ever said discordians were supposed to
make sense.

Besides, as fluffy says, gnomes are full of shit.
Title: The PD.Com Boards Have Gone To Hell!!!
Post by: agent compassion on July 16, 2005, 12:11:52 am
::bows::

If that was shit.....then that was some damn good shit, gnimbley.

::hands gnimbley a Sword of Ultimate Pwnage::
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on July 16, 2005, 12:38:12 am
Bravo, Gnome!

*hugs Gnimbly*

Fuck, dude, look at what you did to my shoe!

At least you're not so full of shit now.

But...seriously, that was one awesome rant.  And, I don't think gnomes are full of shit, I think they're full of pie and cookies.  You know what I'm talking about.  Yes, yes you do.

Hahahahahaha
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 16, 2005, 12:40:45 am
I was going to say a bunch of things, funny things, sarcastic things.  But by the time I got tp the end, they just didn't matter.  Thank you for putting a different spin, I think you put things in perspective, for me at least.
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Post by: Drunken Monkey Cabal on July 16, 2005, 12:43:35 am
you couldnt have made it shorter?  :(
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Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 16, 2005, 12:56:39 am
i gnow that the gnomes gnow.

i don't think 'transhumanism' is necessarily the next step, perhaps something in line with that though.

and i can't say i agree with everything you say there gnimbly,
but then, that's always been the point.

rock for the little people, rock on wit yo bad self

(BTW, i think i classify as one of those kids you speak of. Few of you
prolly know this, but i'm only 19. well, 20 in aboot a month. but still, that's
reasonably young.)
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 16, 2005, 01:27:11 am
HOLY KICK ASS POST BATMAN!
(http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/sroberts/images/robin.gif)


RAH! KICK ASS INDEED ROBIN!
(http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/sroberts/images/west.jpg)

P.S. When I came here (which was not too long ago) I felt pretty welcome
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Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on July 16, 2005, 01:57:47 am
That was a lot more articulate than, "Man...can't we all just get along?"

Very articulate, indeed.
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on July 16, 2005, 02:05:33 am
Quote from: N'yo B?, Terrorist Zenja
i gnow that the gnomes gnow.

i don't think 'transhumanism' is necessarily the next step, perhaps something in line with that though.

and i can't say i agree with everything you say there gnimbly,
but then, that's always been the point.

rock for the little people, rock on wit yo bad self

(BTW, i think i classify as one of those kids you speak of. Few of you
prolly know this, but i'm only 19. well, 20 in aboot a month. but still, that's
reasonably young.)


I'm only 19, too, and a few months younger then you by the sounds of it.  Of course, I plan to revolutionize the field of Anthropology/Archeology, so I don't think I'm going to become a transhuman or anything like that.
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Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 16, 2005, 02:10:24 am
Whether it's "hear hear" or "here here" it sounds the same, so I'll say it either way. And every once in a while, long posts are worthwhile, DiL
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Post by: Drunken Monkey Cabal on July 16, 2005, 02:42:01 am
but my simple mind cannot cope with anything long which doesnt not involve explosions or global terrorism or communism

w00t tom clancy novels.lmao
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Post by: Buddha's Ghost Penis on July 16, 2005, 03:08:58 am
Quote from: Altoid Addict
Whether it's "hear hear" or "here here" it sounds the same, so I'll say it either way. And every once in a while, long posts  THAT HAVE SOMETHIGN WORTHWHILE TO SAY are worthwhile, DiL


BUDDHA'S GHOST PENIS HAS FIXED THAT FOR YOU!
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Post by: Slarti on July 16, 2005, 03:47:03 am
i felt like i was getting lectured by a gnome, that it was directed towards me. very very good stuff gnimbley, and thanks.
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Post by: Guido Finucci on July 16, 2005, 02:25:17 pm
Hey Gnome.

Are you drunk?
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Post by: Guido Finucci on July 16, 2005, 02:26:02 pm
Oh...


Wait...


Were you drunk?
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Post by: agent compassion on July 16, 2005, 03:07:19 pm
Whether or not we go transhuman or something else, gnimbley's point remains - the future belongs to the kids and the kids are under someone else's spell.
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Post by: Bella on July 16, 2005, 04:34:42 pm
Quote from: agent compassion
Whether or not we go transhuman or something else, gnimbley's point remains - the future belongs to the kids and the kids are under someone else's spell.

He's also making the point that the reason the kids are under someone else's spell is that we don't always take the time or the trouble to interact civilly with them while they're here. We have several young people on these forums who, in my opinion, have been treated rather poorly recently. It pisses me off and makes me sad.

Personally, I like kids and teenagers, and think they have a hell of a lot to offer us older folk. Being around younger people helps keep us young in spirit and in touch with the way the world is heading - new ideas, new attitudes, a fresh way of looking at things. By their very nature, young people are the embodiment of change and growth and chaos. Our culture makes it easy to forget that every generation has something to gain from hanging out with people both older and younger than themselves.  I consider it an honor when a young person wants to hang out with me. When my daughters friends come to visit, eat my food, share their problems (which are every bit as real as my problems) , play the guitar - whatever - they leave some of their love for life behind. It's a joyful exchange and I'm richer when they leave. Hopefully, they feel the same way.

We are creatures of light and energy and mind - the body, whatever it's age, is a container for this energy. Why limit ourselves to people whose containers were created about the same time as our own? That's just shallow and silly. It's like saying "I can't play with you because your house was only built 15 years ago." Without our young people, we get old and stuffy and set in our ways, the younger ones miss out on whatever we have to share, and Discordianism goes the way of the Shakers.

ps: I don't think the gnome was drunk, although it's quite possible that he went and got drunk as soon as he wrote this.
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Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 16, 2005, 06:09:17 pm
Amn, sista
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 16, 2005, 06:21:42 pm
The Oracle puts the icing on the gnome's cake, er, cookie :D
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Post by: gnimbley on July 16, 2005, 06:25:48 pm
Quote from: DiL
you couldnt have made it shorter?  :(


Yeah, but I dinna wanna. (Those of you with short attention spans can
stop reading now. It's okay. Take a nap or somethin')

Quote from: N'yo B?, Terrorist Zenja
i don't think 'transhumanism' is necessarily the next step, perhaps something in line with that though.


Well, I am reading The Spike which is where the word transhuman
comes from. The future is not ours to see. So it is just a conjecture.
But something like that is going to happen.

Quote from: N'yo B?, Terrorist Zenja
(BTW, i think i classify as one of those kids you speak of. Few of you
prolly know this, but i'm only 19. well, 20 in aboot a month. but still, that's
reasonably young.)


Pleased to meet cha, punk.

Quote from: Zurtok Khan
I'm only 19, too, and a few months younger then you by the sounds of it.  Of course, I plan to revolutionize the field of Anthropology/Archeology, so I don't think I'm going to become a transhuman or anything like that.


Don't bet on it. Anthropolgy will be important. The new humans will need
some direction.

Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
He's also making the point that the reason the kids are under someone else's that we don't always take the time or the trouble to interact civilly with them while they're here. We have several young people on these forums who, in my opinion, have been treated rather poorly recently. It pisses me off and makes me sad.


Ask yourselves two questions: Why did you come here? Why did you
stay?

I came here because I stumbled across discordianism and found a link
to this site on Wikipedia. We all come here because we found a link.

I have a link on my blog. I used to mail Bella for President flyers
with the website address to credit card companies that sent me nice
little free mailing envelopes. (Now they put bar codes on the envelopes
which I dutifully cut off before mailing.) And I also, well, do other stuff.

We catch people by chance. The crucial part: is why do they stick
around?

Most discordian sites are static. This one is interactive. But most
importantly, when I first showed up it appeared to be a community of
people who were non-judgemental and having fun. A crucial aspect of
the appeal of this site is that anyone can participate.

And everyone seemed to be having fun!

And I ask you. If you went to a new board and saw that everybody was
being mean to each other and spitting out a lot of hate, how many of you
would think, "Boy, this is my kind of place" and stick around? If we want
them here, we have to attract them. (Gets out the big jar of honey.)

Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
ps: I don't think the gnome was drunk, although it's quite possible that he went and got drunk as soon as he wrote this.

Damn. You're on to me. Damn sneaky psychic.

::runs away::
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Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 16, 2005, 06:26:42 pm
Quote from: agent compassion
Whether or not we go transhuman or something else, gnimbley's point remains - the future belongs to the kids and the kids are under someone else's spell.


i'm still trying to show kids my age that you can program your own
trip.

(and if you're not programming your own trip, then who's programming it?)
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Post by: Bella on July 16, 2005, 06:32:33 pm
Quote from: N'yo B?, Terrorist Zenja
i'm still trying to show kids my age that you can program your own
trip.

(and if you're not programming your own trip, then who's programming it?)


Great point. I'm stealing it.

ps: Good luck running away, gnome. I have cookies, so I suspect you'll be back.  :wink:
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Post by: fluffy on July 16, 2005, 06:41:43 pm

phhffftttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gnomes are full of shit
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Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 16, 2005, 06:48:08 pm
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: N'yo B?, Terrorist Zenja
i'm still trying to show kids my age that you can program your own
trip.

(and if you're not programming your own trip, then who's programming it?)


Great point. I'm stealing it.

ps: Good luck running away, gnome. I have cookies, so I suspect you'll be back.  :wink:


i stole that from RAW, who i think in turn stole it from Leary, or something.

i have a soft spot of aphorisms. anything that can contain more information than is written in it gets my attention/
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Post by: Slarti on July 16, 2005, 07:06:47 pm
good points all around.
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Post by: Verthaine on July 16, 2005, 08:08:39 pm
The gnome truly rocks.That is wisdom at its best.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 16, 2005, 08:39:02 pm
x10k
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 16, 2005, 08:43:48 pm
Why did I come here?  Why did I stay?

1  I was looking for illuminati stuff when National Treasure came out.  I had been looking at Prinicpia Discordia stuff since 1997.  I decided I would like to check out other Discordians.  I hadn't noticed a forum before.  The first 2 or 3 years of my son's life I was pretty distracted by his needs and I was coming out of that into my own self again.   :shock:  :?  :wink:

2  In the beginning I think it was mostly to spite the people who pissed me off after my first few posts.  Also because I was ballsy enough to contact people and they encouraged me in spiting the assholes.  They still do :twisted:

Also, one of the few men who contacted me on Yahoo IM that did not hit on me talked about Eris and lots of other stuff.  He still gets on yahoo once every month or two and we share evil, I mean spiritual ideas :twisted:
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 16, 2005, 08:48:50 pm
I think I first visited this site 3 or 5 years ago and just read the book, never really noticed the forum either. Some of the other discordians I've met before did the same thing. Personally I think there are a good amount of positive threads here but the negative threads seem to stand out more. I kind of like having a little bastardishness on a forum though, as long as people are funny about it.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 16, 2005, 08:51:57 pm
1  We already have bionic ears, they are called cochlear implants.

2  Ditto for bionic eyes, not sure what they are called.

3  Amputees can get arms with fingers that can sense touch, hot, cold and fingers that work.

4  Quadroplegics have special computers that can interface without the person using their hands, I have seen a couple different versions, not sure how they work.

Another good book is a novel by Tad Williams (http://www.tadwilliams.com/), called Otherland.  It is really long, 4 long books long, but it explores what our future may be like and things that go wrong and things that go right.  The kids have connectors that connect their brains directly to their computers, directly to the internet.
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 16, 2005, 08:53:54 pm
Hey, you forgot a plethora of feet/legs that can make amputees run faster than normal human beings (I think its like ~30 mph). Yeah, things are definitely gonna get really wierd in the future and I'm all for it. Boinic everything! We've also got replacement hearts and bones, and its only a matter of time before they can shrink dialisys (SP?) machines down to the size of a kidney. Once nanotech becomes more established I bet things are going to get even more sci-fi.
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Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 16, 2005, 08:55:04 pm
WITHOUT STEM CELLS, ALL YOUR BIONIC MAN WILL BELONG TO US!!!!
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Post by: Buddha's Ghost Penis on July 17, 2005, 12:30:31 pm
WHY DID YOU BAN ME!?!?!
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Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 17, 2005, 03:08:45 pm
BECAUSE YOU HATE AMERICA, SON!!
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Post by: illusion on July 17, 2005, 05:11:05 pm
Nah, he probably just hates you and your mama.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 17, 2005, 05:35:09 pm
That's OK, when we turn into transhumans we will give them some new brains that make them stick on topic :P
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Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 17, 2005, 07:37:34 pm
Quote from: illusion
Nah, he probably just hates you and your mama.


HOW COULD ANYBODY HATE BABS?
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Post by: gnimbley on July 17, 2005, 09:38:54 pm
I bought the first Otherland book. It was boring. Best thing he wrote was
that cat book.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 17, 2005, 09:44:39 pm
Quote from: gnimbley
I bought the first Otherland book. It was boring. Best thing he wrote was
that cat book.


The first one had to set up all the characters.  I think that book would make baby Stephen King cry :shock: I dpn't like the way he ended the whole thing, well I liked parts of it.  But the middle two books were good.  I think it is the second one, they go through all the worlds that were created, fascinating.  And twisted.  They find out how each world started and some of the things that went wrong.

I have the cat one, that was so cool.  Plus, Tad Williams has had more jobs, a more diverse collection of jobs than I have :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Donkeyotay on July 17, 2005, 09:57:01 pm
I read this book..it was one of a series..I can't remeber the name of it but perhaps gnimbley knows what it is


It's about this space craft that is made of nanomachines...It can change its shape and do all kinds of neat stuff...It is a some long, infinite space exploration voyage...There are only like 3 or 4 crewmembers too..I remeber in the end one of them sacrafices his life for the crew or the universe, I can't remeber but, the cool thing was was that his consciousness was downloaded int the ships computer and the nanomachines grew him a new body and downloaded his consciousness into it..THe new guy was aware of the old guy but was the same guy...It was an interesting tale
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Post by: gnimbley on July 17, 2005, 10:00:32 pm
Quote from: Donkeyotay
I read this book..it was one of a series..I can't remeber the name of it but perhaps gnimbley knows what it is


It's about this space craft that is made of nanomachines...It can change its shape and do all kinds of neat stuff...It is a some long, infinite space exploration voyage...There are only like 3 or 4 crewmembers too..I remeber in the end one of them sacrafices his life for the crew or the universe, I can't remeber but, the cool thing was was that his consciousness was downloaded int the ships computer and the nanomachines grew him a new body and downloaded his consciousness into it..THe new guy was aware of the old guy but was the same guy...It was an interesting tale


Nope. There are several with similar features. But nothing rings a bell
for that plot exactly.
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Post by: Drunken Monkey Cabal on July 18, 2005, 12:40:05 am
sounds arthur c clarke like
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Post by: Malaul on July 18, 2005, 12:56:28 am
Quote from: gnimbley


And I ask you. If you went to a new board and saw that everybody was
being mean to each other and spitting out a lot of hate, how many of you
would think, "Boy, this is my kind of place" and stick around? If we want
them here, we have to attract them. (Gets out the big jar of honey.)

Ive felt this way forra long time G and couldnt put into the right words
As much as I hate rules adn what not inna place like this, we need em at time, It sucks, but the truth generally does. Imgine what this place woulfa been like if AnE were still here, if a lot of threads and pics hadnt been taken down?
::shudder::
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Post by: Malaul on July 18, 2005, 12:57:56 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
1  We already have bionic ears, they are called cochlear implants.

2  Ditto for bionic eyes, not sure what they are called.

3  Amputees can get arms with fingers that can sense touch, hot, cold and fingers that work.

4  Quadroplegics have special computers that can interface without the person using their hands, I have seen a couple different versions, not sure how they work.

Another good book is a novel by Tad Williams (http://www.tadwilliams.com/), called Otherland.  It is really long, 4 long books long, but it explores what our future may be like and things that go wrong and things that go right.  The kids have connectors that connect their brains directly to their computers, directly to the internet.
Ive read these
DAMN GOOD
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 18, 2005, 01:45:26 am
I've read a lot of Tad Williams' books.  Sometimes I think he is like a modern day Tolkein, sometimes like a scifi Stephen King.  I was gonna say non horror, but some of the shit that went down in Otherland was really twisted.  Worse than anything I could dream up, and that is saying a lot.
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 18, 2005, 03:37:49 pm
Quote from: Buddha's Ghost Penis
WHY DID YOU BAN ME!?!?!


Becuase I fucking hate you.

Actually, I didn't ban you but only because I don't have the power to.
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Post by: LMNO on July 18, 2005, 04:12:32 pm
Well said, gnimbley.

Oh, and for the record:  I've been Erisian for about a decade or so, was bored at work, and was looking for forums to post on.

I stuck around because, whether anyone cares to admit it or not, this place is filled with clever, witty people who have Ideas.


Even Hugh, Turd, & Roger.

I point to Or Kill Me, and The Literate Chaotic as evidence.

To me, the rest is just filler that makes the day go by faster.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 18, 2005, 04:32:12 pm
It's funny how we used to rib each other in good fun. Then how that was taken by some as evidence of assholishness by people who then went on to try what we used to do out of pure spite and then whined about how the board got so sucky.

Actually, conflict is a necessary stage in the life of any group, whether an internet forum or a corporate work circle....so no one should fret, really. And become the changes you seek.

Some of us here are friends and we have known each other for at least two years now. Everyone is welcome here, but no one really likes assholes. So some of us tend to fight back and shit when and where we see it.

Heh. It's a shame that the most vocal whiners are the worst offenders.

I am not talking about gnimbley, though. Gnimbley has always been a good source of Erisianism. It's not his fault though, Eris makes him do it through the judicious use of cookie bribery.
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Post by: LMNO on July 18, 2005, 05:56:21 pm
I'd hate to see gnimbley at a baptist church bake sale.




Wait, scratch that.


I'd love to see gnimbley at a baptist church bake sale!
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 18, 2005, 05:58:51 pm
I'd pay to see that!
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Post by: agent compassion on July 18, 2005, 08:53:16 pm
Quote
I'd pay to see that!


So would the Baptists, for that matter.  :lol:
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Post by: gnimbley on July 18, 2005, 09:59:03 pm
:?


:shock:


 :P
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Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on July 18, 2005, 10:03:56 pm
Its settled then. Gnimbley, you need to get yourself to a baptist bake sale and bring a video camera crew.
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Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 19, 2005, 12:57:23 am
I clicked on a link to get here. Random letters with a )|( in it, I think.

And all this nanotech stuff reminds me of Ken MacLeod's novels. Anyone ever read those?
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 04:29:11 am
gnimbley, you can come with me.

We'll slap baptists around together.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 04:34:49 am
But it has to be at a bake sale :wink:
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 04:43:09 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
But it has to be at a bake sale :wink:


Or at a swim meet.

I say we just sl;ap those baptist cheerleaders around.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 04:49:01 am
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
But it has to be at a bake sale :wink:


Or at a swim meet.

I say we just sl;ap those baptist cheerleaders around.

Well, that might be more entertaining for you, for us it would be more entertaining to see the gnome freak over the cookies :shock:  :D  :lol:
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 04:55:30 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
But it has to be at a bake sale :wink:


Or at a swim meet.

I say we just sl;ap those baptist cheerleaders around.

Well, that might be more entertaining for you, for us it would be more entertaining to see the gnome freak over the cookies :shock:  :D  :lol:


Speak for yourselves. I 'll give gnome all the cookies he could ever need. I have commandeered a cookie factory.
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 05:11:57 am
hmmm, you're right hugh. guys, i'm sorry about the 2 or 3 posts i made insulting the forums. i just contributed to the problem, if there even was one.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:14:07 am
Quote from: Slarti
hmmm, you're right hugh. guys, i'm sorry about the 2 or 3 posts i made insulting the forums. i just contributed to the problem, if there even was one.


I think you're only saying that because you just learned about my taking the cookie factory over. Don't worry, there's enough for everyone.
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 05:15:34 am
as long as you're sharing.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:16:37 am
Quote from: Slarti
as long as you're sharing.


Of course I am sharing. That's why we stole the whole factory.

Does anyone know how to operate this damned machinery?
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 05:17:20 am
forget the machinery. who needs cookies when you can eat the dough instead. it's delicious, but if you eat too much, the eggs can GET YOU.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:18:35 am
Quote from: Slarti
forget the machinery. who needs cookies when you can eat the dough instead. it's delicious, but if you eat too much, the eggs can GET YOU.


Don't worry about the eggs. We'll nuke them all.
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Post by: Bella on July 19, 2005, 05:18:43 am
Man, I'm with you on the cookie dough issue, Slarti.
I'd rather eat the dough than the baked cookies anyday.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:20:22 am
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Man, I'm with you on the cookie dough issue, Slarti.
I'd rather eat the dough than the baked cookies anyday.


We'll all right. Gnimbley better up, before we ravage the whole damned factory and he gets left with nothing.
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 05:20:30 am
cookie dough + milk is an awesome combination. almost as good as a banana + american cheese (just wrap the cheese around the banana, mr rogers taught me that one).
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:22:23 am
Cookie dough and tequila = yummie yum
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 05:46:25 am
Quote from: Slarti
hmmm, you're right hugh. guys, i'm sorry about the 2 or 3 posts i made insulting the forums. i just contributed to the problem, if there even was one.


I think you felt like you were attacked and reacted without thinking.  Think of this as a lesson.  When you feel attacked, stop and think

1  Am I being attacked, am I paranoid, or both.

2  If I am being attacked, wtf is up.

3  Revenge is a dish best served cold.  Take note of the offense and wait for the right time to get even.  It's more fun and more effective.

4  If you react too fast, just chill out and let it go.

5  You knew there would be 5, right? :twisted:
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 05:47:01 am
Oh, yeah, and I want in on the cookies :twisted:
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 05:53:55 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Oh, yeah, and I want in on the cookies :twisted:


Well you better hurry on up then.
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Post by: Zurtok Khan on July 19, 2005, 06:51:38 am
Yummmmmmm cookie dough...

(Bella, methinks we truely are related =P)
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 07:04:51 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Slarti
hmmm, you're right hugh. guys, i'm sorry about the 2 or 3 posts i made insulting the forums. i just contributed to the problem, if there even was one.


I think you felt like you were attacked and reacted without thinking.  Think of this as a lesson.  When you feel attacked, stop and think

1  Am I being attacked, am I paranoid, or both.

2  If I am being attacked, wtf is up.

3  Revenge is a dish best served cold.  Take note of the offense and wait for the right time to get even.  It's more fun and more effective.

4  If you react too fast, just chill out and let it go.

5  You knew there would be 5, right? :twisted:


yeh roger really pissed me off, i felt like i was attacked, and my reaction was stupid. thanks for pointing it out to me. retrospectively, i reallize that roger was more right than i let myself reallize.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 07:20:01 am
Quote from: Slarti
yeh roger really pissed me off, i felt like i was attacked, and my reaction was stupid. thanks for pointing it out to me. retrospectively, i reallize that roger was more right than i let myself reallize.

Well, to be fair, I think he was trying pretty hard to piss you off, so I am not too surprised he succeeded.  I think he thought you did something, but with Roger, it's hard to tell.  Sometimes it seems like he just wants a fight.  Plus, he readily admits he is a dick.  That's the worst, when someone says something that seems unfair, then we look at it and realise they were partly right.  Let it be a learning lesson and move on.  You seem like a good kid.  Just remember, when you are gone from the forum for months at a time, don't come back and start right in bitching, it's bad form :wink:
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 07:25:56 am
very bad form ;)

seems he was mad at me because i exposed gitmo's troll alt, while not exposing others. he accused me of playing favorites and using gonzales style US justice on the forums and all that jazz, and in the end i decided that i probably shouldn't have done it so i dropped out of St Trinian's Circle. ah well. live and learn.
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 08:03:47 am
Quote from: Slarti
very bad form ;)

seems he was mad at me because i exposed mumblemumblemumble , while not exposing others. he accused me of playing favorites and using gonzales style US justice on the forums and all that jazz, and in the end i decided that i probably shouldn't have done it so i dropped out of St Trinian's Circle. ah well. live and learn.


You're going to want to take that out or you are going to start this all over again :lol:
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 11:06:53 am
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Slarti
very bad form ;)

seems he was mad at me because i exposed mumblemumblemumble , while not exposing others. he accused me of playing favorites and using gonzales style US justice on the forums and all that jazz, and in the end i decided that i probably shouldn't have done it so i dropped out of St Trinian's Circle. ah well. live and learn.


You're going to want to take that out or you are going to start this all over again :lol:


Hail Eris!
I think slarti is ready for the next illumination.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 19, 2005, 06:41:03 pm
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 06:43:04 pm
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.


Or you may find that your opponent has lopped off your head while you were at it.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 19, 2005, 06:51:49 pm
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.


Or you may find that your opponent has lopped off your head while you were at it.


precisely.

when somethign is precise, it cannot be more accurate.
-stating the obvious, hwmdf
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 06:54:04 pm
Quote from: .feel the sky
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.


Or you may find that your opponent has lopped off your head while you were at it.


precisely.

when somethign is precise, it cannot be more accurate.
-stating the obvious, hwmdf


Nope. I disagree. You can always fine tune the accuracy.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 19, 2005, 06:57:01 pm
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: .feel the sky
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.


Or you may find that your opponent has lopped off your head while you were at it.


precisely.

when somethign is precise, it cannot be more accurate.
-stating the obvious, hwmdf


Nope. I disagree. You can always fine tune the accuracy.


this is also true, tho no more nor any less than italicised statement.

that which i italicise is True.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 07:01:47 pm
And that which I parenthesize is also true.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 19, 2005, 07:08:05 pm
is spose this implies that that which is not italicised nor parenthasezed is unTrue.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 07:10:42 pm
Quote from: .feel the sky
is spose this implies that that which is not italicised nor parenthasezed is unTrue.


Possibly. But we would need some investimagating.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on July 19, 2005, 07:11:59 pm
i know all the truth i write are shameless lies.

also i stole that sentence from someone else.

kewl eh?
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 07:13:32 pm
heh, all hail discordia.
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on July 19, 2005, 07:15:42 pm
See horab, Slarti gets it.

Slarti, what must you do to words to make them true?
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 07:54:06 pm
say them?
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Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on July 19, 2005, 07:54:53 pm
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.

I didn't say sit and contemplate for hours, but the young ones(and often the older ones as well) have a tendency to not think at all then act in ways that causes them to feel guilty later.  Think just long enough to be sure you won't beat yourself up later, but not so long that your opponent will beat you up now :wink:
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Post by: Slarti on July 19, 2005, 07:57:08 pm
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: .feel the sky
if you think before acting, you may find that your opponent has already made the next move.

I didn't say sit and contemplate for hours, but the young ones(and often the older ones as well) have a tendency to not think at all then act in ways that causes them to feel guilty later.  Think just long enough to be sure you won't beat yourself up later, but not so long that your opponent will beat you up now :wink:


heh that's interesting because a clan i game with just came to this same reallization last night when we all reallized there was a lot of flaming going on between members in the forum. so now we have two peaceful forums (at least it seems more peaceful here than it was).
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Post by: nurbldoff on July 20, 2005, 09:25:13 pm
On the other hand, what if there is no opponent?

There is no enemy anywhere.
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Post by: Bob the Mediocre on July 20, 2005, 09:40:13 pm
Quote from: nurbldoff
On the other hand, what if there is no opponent?

There is no enemy anywhere.


That's what they want you to think.

Shit! He's one of THEM. We must deal with this.

You know what to do. Get to it. MOVE!
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Post by: nurbldoff on July 20, 2005, 09:48:55 pm
That's what you want them to think.
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Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2010, 09:41:25 pm
Hey Gnome.

Are you drunk?

Pot/kettel/black.

TGRR,
Knows it's never too late to post.
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Post by: Telarus on December 16, 2010, 12:04:51 am
 :x
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Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on December 16, 2010, 02:40:08 am
tl;dr

Was anyone surprised?
Title: Re: The PD.Com Boards Have Gone To Hell!!!
Post by: AFK on December 16, 2010, 03:12:49 pm
Anyone keep in touch with Gnimbley?  What's he up to?
Title: Re: The PD.Com Boards Have Gone To Hell!!!
Post by: Jenne on December 20, 2010, 06:28:22 am
Hm...Bella might now.  They're very close still, I'd bet.
Title: Re: The PD.Com Boards Have Gone To Hell!!!
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2018, 07:31:40 pm
Bump, because when Gnimbley was on his game, nothing could touch him.