Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 05:03:00 am

Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 05:03:00 am
Introduction
I'm  not all that great at this stuff, so I'm not posting a piece for the PD06. Instead, I am going to expand upon what I call reverse brainwashing, and was mentioned earlier in the brainstorming stages. Reverse Brainwashing works in nearly the same manner as the garden variety, except its purpose is to free the individual from their 'Iron Bar Prison', and get them to expand their imagination to think for themselves. To wake them up to reality, essentially. Like the opposite, reverse brainwashing rewrites a persons paradigm, and there are several stages to the process.

1. Hook the Sheep
   In this stage we attract those who may be more receptive to waking up at the moment. From earlier discussions, we have found that certain things work well to attract the target population. From polls of other discordians, we have found the target age group, the age group which is most receptive to this process is late teens (16-20). So the modes of attraction are aligned towards these individuals.
   Shiny things tend to catch peoples eye, that is, things that are oddly colored when compared to surroundings. The best way to go is LOUD. Clashing colors, bright graphics, complex, interesting looking graphics, these all get peoples attention. One color font is right out. Non standard fonts are better, but make sure they are easily readable. Make each sentence or thought a different color. Use bright colors, or at least those that contrast highly with the background. Make it ATTRACTIVE to teens these days. You know they spend all day in bland 'prisons', so make it look as different from the prison as possible!
   Place the propaganda in prominent locations. If you are going to disseminate fliers, dress cleanly and properly (depending on the location, maybe suit, maybe street gear), but don't say anything, just hand them out. At this point we are just trying to get them to notice.

2. Reel them in
   So, you've caught their attention. Now, what do you TELL them off the bat? Generally, members agree to leave out as many inside jokes as possible. Leave out 'classic' rich words too, like All Hail Eris, Fn0rd, Greyface, etc. These only get in the way of keeping them interested. In fact, leave out any mention of religion in general. Use newly coined phrases, like é─˙The Discordian Society cordially invites you to join us in a jailbreak...é─¨. Leave out as much classical humor as possible. Use questioning phrases.
   Most of all, intrigue them. Give them just a little meat to work with, using new buzzwords like é─˙Iron Bar Prisoné─¨. Make them want to come to you for more. Make the message short, don't draw it out. These kids have short attention spans, its got to be catchy.
   Finally, give them somewhere to go. Putting www.principiadiscordia.com at the end of the flier is good, or the address to POEE. This is very important, and it will weed out those who are truly interested; they will take the initiative and come.

3. Operation Mindfuck
   In this stage we fuck with the dogma that is stuck in circuit. We weaken the prison with weirdness. This is the realm of the PD06 now in progress, it is the most difficult job of this process, and the most important. It is here that we begin changing the paradigm.
   The document itself has little ability for variability in length. On one hand, the potential discordians have short attention spans, so it should be short enough to adjust for this. On the other hand, there is a minimum length for such documents, because of the time needed for the weakening to occur. This is important: if the PD06 is too short, it will accomplish little or nothing in this stage. This is because a sort of minor hypnosis must occur, which allows the mind to be more easily screwed with.
   The PD06 must be easily accessible; if possible, it should be the first discordian document the potential has ever come across. The less he/she has heard before this point, the better. Put it next to or, if possible, in place of the original at PD.com.
   It should look unassuming. Start out with the same sorts of things from the 'propaganda'. Give a little humor, but make it background. Use lots of buzzphrases. Use repetition. Lull them into an unassuming state, while slowly increasing the weirdness.
   When a critical point is reached, completely shatter their world view. Shock them.  Warning: this can only work if they are first lulled into that semi-hypnotic state. This is the point of turning, where the dogma that has been ingrained is broken. What they knew can't possibly be true anymore. So give them something else to know.

4. Reversing the cycle
   Throughout the PD06, subliminal messages should be placed. These should span around central themes such as freedom, 'jailbreak', thinking for oneself, imagination, waking up, etc. gradually increase the frequency of these and decrease the subliminality, until the critical point is reached. Then, all things should be about these central themes. At this point, we are taking their closed mind and replacing it with an open one. We broke their reality, and now supply a better one. Once you are at this point, you can say nearly anything, and a person will run with it, so be careful! Don't fall in the same traps as the original pd! Yes, some randomness, some humor, but don't make them the most important things. Otherwise you end up with more 'zomg23pinealglandlol' discordians, who are seldom well welcomed in most discordian forums, and their growth as people is also impeded.

5. Welcome the convert
   So a person is converted. What next? They most likely go to find more like them. Thus making active discordian web communities of high importance. The convert should be welcomed and guided. They still have lots to learn. Eventually they should be introduced to the full cannon of discordian literature. But for now, teach the basics. As before, keep the religious aspects low key. There is still the possibility to ostracise. Make them feel welcomed, give them praise and constructive criticism. Encourage them in their interests. In other words, be like good foster parents. They're still kids and have a long way to go!


Conclusion
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

                                 Yurito Sakari,

                      The Wannabe Buddhist Monk
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on May 12, 2006, 07:04:47 am
there is a lot to go thru here

it will be supremely useful


i am so tired right now i cant feel my face


we have come a long way
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 12, 2006, 04:48:59 pm
damn. that might be the best thing you've written yet, BMW.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 05:59:44 pm
Quote from: East Coast Hustle
damn. that might be the best thing you've written yet, BMW.


Thank you. I worked hard on it. It feels akin to my Un-inteligent Design piece I wrote a half a year back. Or at least the style does.

Please to Note: Questions Comments and Critisisms are welcome. I want to revise this, include some more sugesstions and make it even better.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: deet on May 12, 2006, 06:46:54 pm
Propaganda must be:

Recognizable
Easily understood
Repetitious
Not open to interpretation
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 06:51:09 pm
Quote from: deet
Propaganda must be:

Recognizable
Easily understood
Repetitious
Not open to interpretation


Thus making it shiney, short on words, and not full of classical buzz words. Or were you talking about section 3 and 4?
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 07:28:35 pm
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 07:42:05 pm
Quote from: LMNO
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.


Make Steps one and two shiney, the shinier, the better.

But, make the cover of the PD06 very basic, just title and maybe pd.com. The cover must be unassuming, but the inside will slowly decrease that.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on May 12, 2006, 07:43:18 pm
Quote from: LMNO
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.


its all about tact
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 07:44:02 pm
Quote from: LHX
Quote from: LMNO
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.


its all about tact


What he said.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 12, 2006, 07:56:51 pm
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quote from: LMNO
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.


Make Steps one and two shiney, the shinier, the better.

But, make the cover of the PD06 very basic, just title and maybe pd.com. The cover must be unassuming, but the inside will slowly decrease that.


like it or not, people DO judge books by their covers. I think the cover ought to be as loud and shiny and "OMG LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!" as possible. it's the thrust of the message that should be kept unassuming, lest we turn people off with jargon and/or cult-like appearances.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on May 12, 2006, 08:00:43 pm
Quote from: East Coast Hustle
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quote from: LMNO
I see a contradiction between the urgency to make it shiny, and the urgency to be unassuming.


Then again, I had 4 pints of IPA for lunch.


Make Steps one and two shiney, the shinier, the better.

But, make the cover of the PD06 very basic, just title and maybe pd.com. The cover must be unassuming, but the inside will slowly decrease that.


like it or not, people DO judge books by their covers. I think the cover ought to be as loud and shiny and "OMG LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!" as possible. it's the thrust of the message that should be kept unassuming, lest we turn people off with jargon and/or cult-like appearances.


Okay, should I start a new thread about cover design?
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 12, 2006, 08:07:03 pm
hell, man, do whatever you want.

but at this point, that might be putting the cart before the horse.

then again, it's gonna have to be gotten around to sooner or later, so if you wanna start thinking on it, it might not be a bad idea.

ECH,
is just thinking out loud and apologizes for contradicting himself every 3 sentences today
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on May 12, 2006, 08:11:06 pm
fuck

these are good points


theres pros and cons to both




a ridiculous cover might not be good for the 'safe for work' folks


maybe a safe for work appearance with a grab-you-by-the-balls title
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 08:13:08 pm
I think i get it; the trailers, lead ins, tags, and other visuals should be grabbing.  The content itself should be more restrained.  I thinks that's a good idea.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on May 12, 2006, 08:17:30 pm
Quote from: LMNO
I think i get it; the trailers, lead ins, tags, and other visuals should be grabbing.  The content itself should be more restrained.  I thinks that's a good idea.


i agree
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 08:26:59 pm
Quote from: LHX
Quote from: LMNO
I think i get it; the trailers, lead ins, tags, and other visuals should be grabbing.  The content itself should be more restrained.  I thinks that's a good idea.


i agree


Fuck, how obvious is it I've been drinking at lunch?


LMNO
-Sloppy typist.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Cain on May 12, 2006, 08:29:47 pm
I'm surprised more people dont do it, to be honest.  I got up at lunch and started drinking.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 08:32:43 pm
Yes, but you're at University.  That's expected.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 12, 2006, 08:57:43 pm
my lunchbreak?


I took a couple fat bong hits while someone was fellating me.


and I'm not even making this up for the purposes of one-upsmanship.


ECH,
led the good life for a half-hour today
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 09:37:51 pm
Once again, this proves my assertion:









I fucking hate ECH.
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 12, 2006, 09:54:13 pm
you know, I can teach you my secret....




for a small (and very reasonable) fee.


 8)
Title: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2006, 10:00:22 pm
Get thee behind me, subgenii!
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on December 07, 2006, 10:49:07 pm
Bump, for SC and relevance.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on December 07, 2006, 10:51:47 pm
god damn weve done a lot this year
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 08, 2006, 01:56:23 am
goddamn, I used to get blowjobs on my lunch breaks.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2006, 08:21:39 am
Bump, for SC and relevance.

K you got me. I'll just sit back down and keep my dumb ideas to myself. This is more or less what I was trying to say anyroad.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on December 08, 2006, 10:59:57 am
What?! No, nonono!

This is just a tool for creativity! Take whatever you get from it (if anything) and do with it as you will. By all means tear it appart, add your own stuff, whatever. But don't just shut up and figure Im saying the same thing as you.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2006, 11:06:42 am
What?! No, nonono!

This is just a tool for creativity! Take whatever you get from it (if anything) and do with it as you will. By all means tear it appart, add your own stuff, whatever. But don't just shut up and figure Im saying the same thing as you.

Wasn't serious - just having a self depreciating moment. Fkin Sepias fault if you ask me. Made me feel all inadequate in my cornflakes this am.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Sepia on December 08, 2006, 01:37:11 pm
What?! No, nonono!

This is just a tool for creativity! Take whatever you get from it (if anything) and do with it as you will. By all means tear it appart, add your own stuff, whatever. But don't just shut up and figure Im saying the same thing as you.

Wasn't serious - just having a self depreciating moment. Fkin Sepias fault if you ask me. Made me feel all inadequate in my cornflakes this am.

Fart me in the face! (I don't do anything, I'm just a mood enhancer)

This looks very good and very manualish like and me likes. Gonna print out now and look more closely at it at home. Also, coverdesign should be sexy. It should look like scarlett johannson wrapped in an intense blowjob on mdma with gil scott heron on the speakers. (well, this is ofcourse highly subjective but you might get my meaning)
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2006, 05:05:21 pm
What?! No, nonono!

This is just a tool for creativity! Take whatever you get from it (if anything) and do with it as you will. By all means tear it appart, add your own stuff, whatever. But don't just shut up and figure Im saying the same thing as you.

Wasn't serious - just having a self depreciating moment. Fkin Sepias fault if you ask me. Made me feel all inadequate in my cornflakes this am.

Fart me in the face! (I don't do anything, I'm just a mood enhancer)

This looks very good and very manualish like and me likes. Gonna print out now and look more closely at it at home. Also, coverdesign should be sexy. It should look like scarlett johannson wrapped in an intense blowjob on mdma with gil scott heron on the speakers. (well, this is ofcourse highly subjective but you might get my meaning)

One word:-

Cameron ... Diaz ... Strapon
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 05:12:10 pm
As a meme, I really don't see that one catching on.



However, such a thing might be actually true, in that she's dating Justin Timberlake.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2006, 06:07:06 pm
As a meme, I really don't see that one catching on.



However, such a thing might be actually true, in that she's dating Justin Timberlake.

It's caught on in my mind.

(blames LMNO entirely)
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on March 26, 2007, 01:28:30 pm
I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

As far as the cover thing goes, if it hasn't been decided, I like the design of the illuminatti pyramid with the prison bars from the wiki thrown down with the title of it.  That would make me sex in my pants.

[Insert what you want to hear here.]
AKK
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on March 27, 2007, 02:35:37 pm
I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

As far as the cover thing goes, if it hasn't been decided, I like the design of the illuminatti pyramid with the prison bars from the wiki thrown down with the title of it.  That would make me sex in my pants.

[Insert what you want to hear here.]
AKK


1. If you think the BIP forum would be better without comments, then you don't get the point of it in the first place.

2. Okay, see that thing that says "Pages" at the top of the BIP forum? And the numbers next to it, see those? You can CLICK (yeah, what a concept) on those numbers, and go to the earlier pages. In fact, the whole thing is rather short, which means you could go through all the threads in a day or so.

3. If you've been paying attention you would know that one of the goals of the project was to use different symbols to get away from the PD a bit. Besides, the illuminati pyramid just isn't funny anymore.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on March 27, 2007, 02:48:36 pm
I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

As far as the cover thing goes, if it hasn't been decided, I like the design of the illuminatti pyramid with the prison bars from the wiki thrown down with the title of it.  That would make me sex in my pants.

[Insert what you want to hear here.]
AKK


1. If you think the BIP forum would be better without comments, then you don't get the point of it in the first place.

2. Okay, see that thing that says "Pages" at the top of the BIP forum? And the numbers next to it, see those? You can CLICK (yeah, what a concept) on those numbers, and go to the earlier pages. In fact, the whole thing is rather short, which means you could go through all the threads in a day or so.

3. If you've been paying attention you would know that one of the goals of the project was to use different symbols to get away from the PD a bit. Besides, the illuminati pyramid just isn't funny anymore.

Congratulations, You're a jerk  :mrgreen:

If I was retarded that might have been helpfull, but thanks for your concerns.

Seriously mang, give me some substance, save your negative opinions, I have my own and I like them better than yours.  I wouldn't be so inclined to point this out if I hadn't already caught a mountain shit from you on other threads.

So you know...
you won't rattle me, you'll just be irritating if you never offer anything usefull, or in the very least, something in good humor to entertain.  Perhaps you've earned your place on the board, but I don't know you from shit.  Handshakes over fists my friend.

Luck with your crusade wannabe.

AKK
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on March 27, 2007, 03:09:57 pm
I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

As far as the cover thing goes, if it hasn't been decided, I like the design of the illuminatti pyramid with the prison bars from the wiki thrown down with the title of it.  That would make me sex in my pants.

[Insert what you want to hear here.]
AKK


1. If you think the BIP forum would be better without comments, then you don't get the point of it in the first place.

2. Okay, see that thing that says "Pages" at the top of the BIP forum? And the numbers next to it, see those? You can CLICK (yeah, what a concept) on those numbers, and go to the earlier pages. In fact, the whole thing is rather short, which means you could go through all the threads in a day or so.

3. If you've been paying attention you would know that one of the goals of the project was to use different symbols to get away from the PD a bit. Besides, the illuminati pyramid just isn't funny anymore.

Congratulations, You're a jerk  :mrgreen:

If I was retarded that might have been helpfull, but thanks for your concerns.

Seriously mang, give me some substance, save your negative opinions, I have my own and I like them better than yours.  I wouldn't be so inclined to point this out if I hadn't already caught a mountain shit from you on other threads.

So you know...
you won't rattle me, you'll just be irritating if you never offer anything usefull, or in the very least, something in good humor to entertain.  Perhaps you've earned your place on the board, but I don't know you from shit.  Handshakes over fists my friend.

Luck with your crusade wannabe.

AKK

Yeah, I am an ass. I feel like being an ass today. Thus you are catching shit. Don't take it personally. It was bound to happen sometime.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 03:12:05 pm
Ok, I'll try to be helpful.

I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Please clarify if you mean the the BIP is stuck, or you would like threads such as these insterted into the BIP forum.

Also, since the forum evolves, "gems" like these are scattered throughout.  This is one of the reasons for the "dumpster diving" thread, and the propoganda forum.  In fact, i'll go put the OP in there, now.

Quote
Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

I can't tell what you're trying to say here.  Do you mean that the BIP project seems offputting to people who have just arrived?  Well, that's just the way it is.  While we've done our best to make introductions to the concept, we've also had long discussions about it, and have moved to certain points that took us a while to get there.  A newcomer will have to put in some work.  I don't see what yet another self-effacing disclaimer will do.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on March 27, 2007, 03:18:43 pm
I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

As far as the cover thing goes, if it hasn't been decided, I like the design of the illuminatti pyramid with the prison bars from the wiki thrown down with the title of it.  That would make me sex in my pants.

[Insert what you want to hear here.]
AKK


1. If you think the BIP forum would be better without comments, then you don't get the point of it in the first place.

2. Okay, see that thing that says "Pages" at the top of the BIP forum? And the numbers next to it, see those? You can CLICK (yeah, what a concept) on those numbers, and go to the earlier pages. In fact, the whole thing is rather short, which means you could go through all the threads in a day or so.

3. If you've been paying attention you would know that one of the goals of the project was to use different symbols to get away from the PD a bit. Besides, the illuminati pyramid just isn't funny anymore.

Congratulations, You're a jerk  :mrgreen:

If I was retarded that might have been helpfull, but thanks for your concerns.

Seriously mang, give me some substance, save your negative opinions, I have my own and I like them better than yours.  I wouldn't be so inclined to point this out if I hadn't already caught a mountain shit from you on other threads.

So you know...
you won't rattle me, you'll just be irritating if you never offer anything usefull, or in the very least, something in good humor to entertain.  Perhaps you've earned your place on the board, but I don't know you from shit.  Handshakes over fists my friend.

Luck with your crusade wannabe.

AKK

Yeah, I am an ass. I feel like being an ass today. Thus you are catching shit. Don't take it personally. It was bound to happen sometime.

Fair enough, I'm often a jerk too. here's  a taco to help you feel better. :taco:
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on March 27, 2007, 03:27:10 pm
Ok, I'll try to be helpful.

I'm assuming this thread is relatively dead, but I'm glad to have run across it. 

Having a comprehensive format plan to look at is handy.  I'd like to see gems like these that help to guide the BIP stuck into a forum that isn't littered with comments.

Please clarify if you mean the the BIP is stuck, or you would like threads such as these insterted into the BIP forum.

Also, since the forum evolves, "gems" like these are scattered throughout.  This is one of the reasons for the "dumpster diving" thread, and the propoganda forum.  In fact, i'll go put the OP in there, now.

Quote
Perhaps a preemptive intro like: "these are just some peoples ideas on what this project is and should be doing... none of them are right or wrong but they are here for easy reference..." would be really handy for those of us that haven't been  here since time began as well as those who have been here so long they forgot.

I can't tell what you're trying to say here.  Do you mean that the BIP project seems offputting to people who have just arrived?  Well, that's just the way it is.  While we've done our best to make introductions to the concept, we've also had long discussions about it, and have moved to certain points that took us a while to get there.  A newcomer will have to put in some work.  I don't see what yet another self-effacing disclaimer will do.


I was looking for something like the new thread you just put up where you stuck in all the old gems from the early BIP days.  I think I mentioned this also in the mag thread and you just got to this one later thinking that the problem hadn't yet been resolved.

What I was getting at is that there is a ton of shit to sift through.  Reading the full length of every thread would be far more trouble than I would want to manage for writing an article mag. 

Especially since the article I am putting together is going to be intended for new readers, not the old fogies on the site that were there when the shit was written and probably wrote half of it.

They don't need an article.  They were there.

Until I do get further through the material I don't intend on writing any rant worthy stuff as I feel it would be important for me to have the previous influences referenced in my cranium so that I can present something new.

Not that there is anything new under the sun, I just don't wanna accidentally rehash someone elses shit.  I'm hoping to get a few more reviews on that other piece before I redraft it though. 

Your commentary was particularly helpfull so thanks for that.

Misc. Mind Dribble,
AKK
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 03:32:00 pm
If the BIP wiki does what it should, that would probably answer your issues.

Which, if I understand correctly, boils down to this:

"Where can I go to get the distilled product of all these discussions?"
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on March 27, 2007, 03:46:06 pm
If the BIP wiki does what it should, that would probably answer your issues.

Which, if I understand correctly, boils down to this:

"Where can I go to get the distilled product of all these discussions?"

already on that train, but thanks.  Ima do that and the thread you just added before I work too hard on the mag article, even then, I'm planning on using triple zero's idea about having the BIP greybeards answer them and translate it into something fun and readable, plus I still have more HIMEOBS research to do.  So far I know what it stands for and that it's seemingly the star wars illuminatti.  That's technically enough to do the article, but I'd rather have a better understanding of the animal before I poke it with a stick.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Payne on March 29, 2007, 02:03:35 am
Hola!

Feel the need to stick my nose into this debate, even though no one here has said much to me, if at all... And Vice-Versa.

I am a complete newcomer, and yes, perhaps a condensed version of what this is about would be good. However I feel it more productive to trawl through all the earlier discussions and find out HOW this stuff was put together.

Of course, I have the time to do that, cause I am a total bum. Hell I've even raided the only booze/mixer in the place and sip merrily as i write this nonsense (gin? and dr. pepper? not recomended folks, unless ur {edit: you're} desperate)

Don't mean to step on any toes or stick my nose in, but let the ppl do their work.

P.S Cheers for the directions LMNO, I chose the path but u {edit: you}vaguely waved at it in a noncommital way...


{edit:  8)}
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on March 29, 2007, 02:24:40 am
Hola!

Feel the need to stick my nose into this debate, even though no one here has said much to me, if at all... And Vice-Versa.

I am a complete newcomer, and yes, perhaps a condensed version of what this is about would be good. However I feel it more productive to trawl through all the earlier discussions and find out HOW this stuff was put together.

Of course, I have the time to do that, cause I am a total bum. Hell I've even raided the only booze/mixer in the place and sip merrily as i write this nonsense (gin? and dr. pepper? not recomended folks, unless ur desperate)

Don't mean to step on any toes or stick my nose in, but let the ppl do their work.

P.S Cheers for the directions LMNO, I chose the path but u vaguely waved at it in a noncommital way...

I think I really like this guy.

My only criticism is of the usage of "u". Please people, its spelled "you". (I try to ignore it, I really do)
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Payne on March 29, 2007, 04:25:38 am
Because it's YOU, I will try. I cannot make any promises, as the 'txtual spk' of the age seems to have rotted my previously "Proper English Language Bully" brain.

Hell I used to moan about apostrophes and all, now I'm trying to get my head around apostasy.

Meh.

The Gin and Dr. Pepper are now all gone. And I'm out of weed.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: B_M_W on March 29, 2007, 06:02:09 am
Because it's YOU, I will try. I cannot make any promises, as the 'txtual spk' of the age seems to have rotted my previously "Proper English Language Bully" brain.

Hell I used to moan about apostrophes and all, now I'm trying to get my head around apostasy.

Meh.

The Gin and Dr. Pepper are now all gone. And I'm out of weed.

Try melatonin. Its all natural and helps you sleep.

Also, its your daily dose of "ZOMGZ23FNORD" because it is produced in the pineal gland.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 29, 2007, 12:55:56 pm
Because it's YOU, I will try. I cannot make any promises, as the 'txtual spk' of the age seems to have rotted my previously "Proper English Language Bully" brain.

Hell I used to moan about apostrophes and all, now I'm trying to get my head around apostasy.

Meh.

The Gin and Dr. Pepper are now all gone. And I'm out of weed.

Fuck that shit m8, choose a side n make a stand. If u can understand it then it's valid communication. If it's shorter than the alternative then its optimised. Who the fuck want's to be involved in a language that got named after the fkin english anyway?
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LHX on March 29, 2007, 01:29:29 pm
fuck grammar
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: LMNO on March 29, 2007, 02:20:30 pm
Condensed material:

1. Links in my sig.
2. "Interesting Shit from Back in the Day" thread
3. Propoganda subforum.
4. BIP Wiki.
Title: Re: Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide
Post by: Bu☆ns on November 29, 2008, 05:41:34 am
bump