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#1
The barstool as a metaphor for the foundation that we sit upon making our pretentious statements as if we ever completely understood the entire scope of existence?

Basically....st00pid humans?

I'm still new at this but well aware that I'm fair game for a smack down.
#2
Literate Chaotic / Re: Working Title
May 03, 2007, 04:50:23 AM
Keep it flowin' when you can.  :)
#3
thanks.
#4
Quote from: LMNO on April 18, 2007, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: HBOMB on April 17, 2007, 07:51:15 PM
this statement from him struck me:

QuoteFor they must all bear within themselves the laws of number, and it is precisely number which is most astonishing in things. All that conformity to law, which impresses us so much in the movement of the stars and in chemical processes, coincides at bottom with those properties which we bring to things. Thus it is we who impress ourselves in this way. In conjunction with this, it of course follows that the artistic process of metaphor formation with which every sensation begins in us already presupposes these forms and thus occurs within them.

Quoteall this is completely and solely contained within the mathematical strictness and inviolability of our representations of time and space. But we produce these representations in and from ourselves with the same necessity with which the spider spins.

Is he saying we can't escape the numbers?  That by our own creation in numbering and the systems and laws they are relayed within we have bound ourselves?  Also that the metaphoric creation is possibly bound in this manner or that metaphoric formation is our way of escaping the numbers...or is it both? 

Pretty much the first three, yeah.  If we are the pattern makers, one of the fundamental patterns we use are the numbers.  But numbers themselves are abstractions of metaphors (if each lemon is slightly different from the others, then the word "lemon" is a metaphor.  To say that we have 5 lemons, you are stacking the metaphors together, making patterns of patterns).  We tend to think in the foundational systems we have made, so our thinking is contained within the numbers; that is, the numbers we use influence and shape our pattern making.

I like where he went with this, in that patterns are dissolved in dreaming, as well as in some art, so that experiencing art is akin to dreaming.

At least, I think that's what he said.






Also, YA: Shut up.



I liked that aspect as well.  A very happy little piece of freedom.

It helps embrace art such as Miro and Klee more readily...to experience them from that POV.

It brings an elegance to the whimsy of it all.
#5
I really really love this bit:

QuoteThereby men do not flee from being deceived as much as from being damaged by deception: what they hate at this stage is basically not the deception but the bad, hostile, consequences of certain kinds of deceptions.  In a similarly limited way man wants the truth: he desires the agreeable life-preserving consequences of truth, but he is indifferent to pure knowledge, which has no consequences; he is even hostile to the possibly damaging and destructive truths.   And, moreover, what about these conventions of language?  Are they really the products of knowledge, of the sense of truth?  Do the designations and the things coincide?  Is language the adequate expression of all realities?

I find the quote above quite huggable.

On a personal note:
Nietzsche can be at both times serious and quite comedic with his little satyrical twists thrown in at the ends of very profound points.  I've read some of his writings before in college, but that was years ago and it wasn't resonating with me then.  Now some years later he makes a hell of a lot more sense. 



#6
this statement from him struck me:

QuoteFor they must all bear within themselves the laws of number, and it is precisely number which is most astonishing in things. All that conformity to law, which impresses us so much in the movement of the stars and in chemical processes, coincides at bottom with those properties which we bring to things. Thus it is we who impress ourselves in this way. In conjunction with this, it of course follows that the artistic process of metaphor formation with which every sensation begins in us already presupposes these forms and thus occurs within them.

Quoteall this is completely and solely contained within the mathematical strictness and inviolability of our representations of time and space. But we produce these representations in and from ourselves with the same necessity with which the spider spins.

Is he saying we can't escape the numbers?  That by our own creation in numbering and the systems and laws they are relayed within we have bound ourselves?  Also that the metaphoric creation is possibly bound in this manner or that metaphoric formation is our way of escaping the numbers...or is it both?

Editted for the Ahhhh

QuoteIt continually manifests an ardent desire to refashion the world which presents itself to waking man, so that it will be as colorful, irregular, lacking in results and coherence, charming, and eternally new as the world of dreams. Indeed, it is only by means of the rigid and regular web of concepts that the waking man clearly sees that he is awake; and it is precisely because of this that he sometimes thinks that he must be dreaming when this web of concepts is torn by art.

This rings particularly true to me.

Oooh and I like that part that he quoted from Pascal about the workman who dreamed 12 hours a day he was king, and the Greeks beliefs in their mythological dieties...it would seem they brought their ethereal dream world to life, not that the dream can't be true. 
#7
Thanks Cain. 

Reading...





#8
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on April 16, 2007, 05:25:27 PM
I've formatted it into a pamphlet, for ease of distribution.

Download it here.

Can someone suggest some more art or clipart or what-have-you to spice up the interior / back panel?



EDIT: added a graphic, some general cleanup and rewording.

Downloaded, printed and folded for easy distribution to commence as soon as I leave this building.   8)
#9
Principia Discussion / Re: ITT: Famous Last Words
April 12, 2007, 10:09:28 PM
SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!
#10
Or Kill Me / Re: 50 Post Roast!
April 10, 2007, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on March 28, 2007, 08:16:30 AM
Here it comes...

GEE, MISTER THE POLICEMANS!  WHY DIDN'T YOU BE NICE TO THE RAVING LUNATIC WHO PROBABLY HAS A HEAD FULL OF CRANK AND A SHARPENED SCREWDRIVER IN HIS BACK POCKET?  YOU SO MEAN!



What about giving cops tranquilizer guns with appropriately dosed darts to subdue folks that are having psychotic episodes because of drugs.  That way its a hands off approach until the perp has enough thorazine (or whatever the latest tranq of choice is) to calm them enough to be taken in or admitted. 
#11

For clarifying certain elusive points, might I suggest a few illustrations to help.  Believe me pictures are not just for the illiterate, they do often speak volumes in bringing a verbal point to light for those who don't conceptualize via written words as well as with pictoral representations.  It would help maximize the potential for understanding, thereby drawing in a wider audience. 

BTW I just made my BIP booklet for my reading pleasure...didn't follow the instructions exactly but I gots me a booklet none-the-less.
#12
Literate Chaotic / Re: Working Title
April 07, 2007, 07:12:17 AM
And....more please.