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#16
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 01, 2009, 08:42:24 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 01, 2009, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
Pfah, 'details' do not exist, a lie made up by people to justify their own mental laziness.

If you don't like it here, then why don't you leave?
That's an amazing conclusion to make from my saying I don't believe in details.

I have to say I kind of like it here. Not all people seek people to agree with them you know, that's just boring.

Arguing for the sake of arguing isn't 3rd or 4th C, its 2nd C. As the newbie you end up looking like an ass. Just saying.
My image means more to me than my life, just lying.

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Okay. So its a bullshit "disorder". In other words, you're just a self absorbed asshole. No medical explanation needed.
It's say, I don't agree with psychiatry and find most 'disorders' just lumping random symptoms together and giving it a fancy quasi-greek name. I have the symptoms but tonnes of people have at least one, I just have nine out of ten.

Self absorbed arsehole, nahh, I just really am neither pained if people hate me or feel content if they love me. You can't hit me or reward me? Interesting isn't it? You have no way to force me to be how you want me to be. People can make you bow and adjust by either calling you names or calling you cool, they can annoy you with such simple things as post resulting in you having to vent that with words you find 'curses'. If a person brings you bad news you have to take it back at that person. If some one attacks some work of art you made you feel it on a personal level, if some one insults your favourite bands you feel it and often even feel anger back at that person. You continually work on the mental level to sustain your own image of contention and your mind always tries to find justifications for why you are 'right' and others are 'wrong', if other kids don't like to play with you you feel lonely, if you don't have a partner enough you either start to doubt your 'self worth' (whatever that is) or you blame it on their taste.

God, your life must suck. But the good part is it also works in reverse for you. Dude, grow up, place less attention on how people say things and more on what they say, stop trying to find a shallow justification like 'arsehole' for your feelings and trying to justify your own self worth by cursing back at some one who hasn't even made a value judgement to any one to this point, admit they are irrational, take a beer and realize that it doesn't matter that they are. No one created you to be a rational being and you aren't, you and I are bestial, instinct driven creatures that are that way today because if their ancestors weren't they wouldn't exist. The only difference is that I do not prætent I'm not because my 'disorder' removes my motivation to have a 'self worth'.

Nao: cocaine vaccines, pm me or start a new topic if you think I'm so interesting.
#17
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 01, 2009, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
Pfah, 'details' do not exist, a lie made up by people to justify their own mental laziness.

If you don't like it here, then why don't you leave?
That's an amazing conclusion to make from my saying I don't believe in details.

I have to say I kind of like it here. Not all people seek people to agree with them you know, that's just boring.

QuoteAre you one of those ass-burgers?
Oh no, not at all, I do think I once got diagnosed schizoid personality disorder, the difference is more or less that aspies lack the ability to feel social rules and schizoids essentially are apathic to love, friendship, praise, criticism, unconcerned with though aware of how they appear et cetera. Your confusion is understandable as it kind of leads to the same thing in the end, noncompliance with social rules, the former for being unable to, the latter for having nothing to gain from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid#Diagnostic_criteria_.28DSM-IV-TR_.3D_301.20.29

It seriously exists as a 'disorder' is the stupid part. I am disordered for putting value on different things, amazing, I can still at some point see why asperger is a disorder because you lack an antenna in that case, you lack an ability, I can see why voting republican could be a disorder, why having children could be one, but this is really 'You like football, the rest likes tennis, you have a disorder.', it is like in no way compromising your life.
#18
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
Pfah, 'details' do not exist, a lie made up by people to justify their own mental laziness.

Besides, last time checked, I didn't derail this Nigel, you did, I was quite on topic.
#19
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 01, 2009, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 01, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
Oh, good, a new pedant.

Apparently the word "pedant" used to mean something positive, someone who used words with precision. Now all it means is an egotistical asshole with a perchance for correcting people.
It comes from Latin paedagogans, as paedagogue suggests it means 'teacher'. In Italian it got to mean teacher of any kind and not just to children, finally it got into English. Shakespear still used it with that sense. Later on it got to mean some one with a penchant for præcision and accuracy and correctness. Now a lot of people use it to mean 'arrogant snob', but in the end also apply it in the former sense because it's the difference of terrorist and freedom fighter any way.
#20
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Google Wave
November 01, 2009, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: frictionpiss on November 01, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
I think I'm going to Knuth this and in 6 years say 'I was one of the first that had Wave, I've been having it since 2009, I'm stopping with it, if you want to contact me send me email.' and check this once a month.
Put it this way, imagine blogs and news aggregation sites start adding support for using wave for comments. I don't bother commenting on sites like slashdot any more, even though most of my geek-friends check it multiple times a day. But using wave, comments from my geek-friends could bubble up to the top and we could have actual conversations instead of the usual semi-anonymous nerd-bitching which occurs.

In a similar way it can be used to integrate the functionality of twitter/digg/reddit/facebook/etc, with the major benefit being that as it's all open, there is no walled garden - if you want to migrate your wave data from microsoft to yahoo, you can do so.

So at the moment I see it as a value-add for me. But if, like Knuth, your goal is to absolutely minimise your contact with other filthy humans, then yeah - you'd probably want to avoid wave.
I'm not quite sure what his goals are. I hate TeX and LaTeX alike though, I want it replaced by an XML standard for structure and some CSS or XSLT/FO thing perhaps for looks.

I hate it because it assumes that all people find the same things 'optimally readable', and that is why I like to reduce contact, or at least until the world has realized that 5.5pt #090909 on #000000 sans monospaced is the way to read.
#21
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 01, 2009, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 07:42:37 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 31, 2009, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
I'm trying deeply to find beneficial effect of this drug that seems to be a cocaine blocker that uses the immune system as a bypass that goes far beyond simply taking less cocaine, or taking no cocaine at all. Thus far I am bested by this problem of life.

Maybe one day.

It's for addicts who want to quit but are having a hard time.
I know, but what it apparently does is simply making cocaine less effective.

So,  what you can either do is simply take less to achieve the same effect.
Or you take the 'vaccine', and if you don 't have the willpower you're just going to use more cocaine to compensate for that it loses its effect and steal a car radio extra to finance this.

So unless I understand some part of this completely wrong, I'm really lost to how this could in any way be beneficial.

Drug addiction is more than just achieving the same neurotransmitter levels. Drug abuse is also about the environment in which you abuse, the sensory information involved in that. This is why giving suckers to nicotine addicts can be helpful because it gives them something to hold on to that simulates a cigarette.

A heavy coccaine user will keep taking coccaine likely, but a "vaccine" will wean them from the affect over time. Cold turkey has intense withdrawl symptoms.

And before you say it, no, they don't have that sort of self control.
Yeah, but nicotine patches are the logical inverse of this. Nicotine patches: You don't take the drug any more but you take some other thing that in reduced measure puts the effective substance in your system. The vaccine: You keep taking the drug but you take some other thing that reduces the effect of the effective substance in your system.

This thing should do the inverse of letting them quit, it makes them take more of it. It's the same thing as that people start tot take more and more of it because after a while it loses its effect. Same with this stuff, it just makes it lose its effect.
#22
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Google Wave
November 01, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
Quote from: frictionpiss on November 01, 2009, 01:42:34 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on November 01, 2009, 07:40:03 AM
I really don't get the appeal of this. I wasted three good invites of some one for this because I am periodically incapable of typing my email address properly and I really don't get this.

You really just multiplayer notepad. Also, it's really some contest of manliness in 'Oeehh, I can type faster than thou.'
I haven't got into speed typing contests. I probably have the wrong friends.
One's typing speed is more important for one's ability to attract women than one's chin, this has been in effect since 5 years, update your file-keeping.
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But in general, I'm more excited by the potential it has as a platform for new applications with custom robots and gadgets - most of the work seems to have been put into making the backend flexible and scalable. UI-wise I find it less inspiring, though that said I fully expect it to have alternative UIs (official and unofficial) within six months.
I think I'm going to Knuth this and in 6 years say 'I was one of the first that had Wave, I've been having it since 2009, I'm stopping with it, if you want to contact me send me email.' and check this once a month.
#23
Apple Talk / Re: Yo!
November 01, 2009, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Sir Remington III on November 01, 2009, 08:27:17 AM
Also, take a look at the last few pages of this thread:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19534.msg771832#msg771832

This is what not to do.
I'll do another's daughter in the future if you recommend.
#24
Bring and Brag / Re: ATTN: PD.COM MUSICIANS
November 01, 2009, 08:33:24 AM
A: describe it.
B: is there a profound reason you chose not to describe it?
#25
Aneristic Illusions / Re: LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!
November 01, 2009, 08:22:55 AM
Captain, our long range sensors have detected a slight annoyance.
#26
Aneristic Illusions / Re: LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!
November 01, 2009, 08:06:19 AM
Quote from: Squid on November 01, 2009, 08:01:22 AM
PS- I'm just killing time before I pass out.

Did you at least think while posting? Cause I didn't.
Hardly, it's a stream of consciousness.

QuoteHell I even flblarghbliffffffffffffffff
you're boring.
Then I win because I find you amusing, life can be so unfair eh?
#27
Aneristic Illusions / Re: LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!
November 01, 2009, 07:43:48 AM
Quote from: Squid on November 01, 2009, 07:42:11 AM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 31, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
wow. that was like listening to a creationist argue science.

why would Cain believe any western propaganda?
what would make you think he would?
just curious.
Because Cain's not superhuman I assume?

The very fact that you ask this is a strong indication you do too and are ignorant of it. I do too, but I'm not ignorant about it, propaganda shapes our lives and colours our very being. There's a reason every single person thinks in terms like 'enemy' and 'ally' and thinks that the values of their own culture are the best.

There is no conceivable way except being superhuman to escape its influence, it's every where, all cultures make their citizens believe they have nice things like freedom of expression, diversity, proper morals, allies have them less, enemies lack them altogether. In reality no culture has them and they all just ascribe it to self and believe their own propaganda probably.

That a lot of people in the west seem to think that North Koreans live in poverty and the nation is on the verge of collapse is just the tip of the iceberg. There are countless more things, Turks, Maroccans and Iranians have nothing related except their 'faith' and they even disagree and openly hate each other because they practice different schools of Islam. It's like saying Peru and British culture is related because it's both dominantly Christian. Iran really isn't any thing less technologically sophisticated as the west because scientific knowledge is open source for one. Conversely, in Iran they only get told the worst parts about the west and only hear the best parts of their own country. That some suspects of terrorism (propaganda talk for 'freedom fighter') get tortured is the tip of the iceberg. Sure you hear all the time about 'OMG, ANOTHER IRANIAN WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR BEING RAPED' but that's a seldom occasion there. And in the US people are put into jail for yawning in court as observers because the judge found it 'indecent conduct', it's an exception, but that's what they hear in Iran.

Propaganda is omnipræsent, patriotism is propaganda talk for propaganda. There is no way a human being without a mind so resilient that it fails to absorb any moral and cultural norms and thus be classed as sociopathic can not significantly be influenced by it. The very fact that about all people would rather not live in a completely different culture, no matter in what culture they grew up, and that this trend continues if they were adopted from another culture should say enough. Children are simply brainwashed to love their own culture, not on purpose, and this is what keeps a culture from collapsing in the end.

for real this time-  TL;DR

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It was a clever ploy to take 30 seconds of your time by letting you type that, and you played right into my hands.

Edit: no tell me, what motivates people like you to waste datafields, glucose, and time just to let the world know they don't like to read?
#28
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Cocaine Vaccine
November 01, 2009, 07:42:37 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 31, 2009, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: MornTheOrator on October 31, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
I'm trying deeply to find beneficial effect of this drug that seems to be a cocaine blocker that uses the immune system as a bypass that goes far beyond simply taking less cocaine, or taking no cocaine at all. Thus far I am bested by this problem of life.

Maybe one day.

It's for addicts who want to quit but are having a hard time.
I know, but what it apparently does is simply making cocaine less effective.

So,  what you can either do is simply take less to achieve the same effect.
Or you take the 'vaccine', and if you don 't have the willpower you're just going to use more cocaine to compensate for that it loses its effect and steal a car radio extra to finance this.

So unless I understand some part of this completely wrong, I'm really lost to how this could in any way be beneficial.
#29
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Google Wave
November 01, 2009, 07:40:03 AM
I really don't get the appeal of this. I wasted three good invites of some one for this because I am periodically incapable of typing my email address properly and I really don't get this.

You really just multiplayer notepad. Also, it's really some contest of manliness in 'Oeehh, I can type faster than thou.'
#30
Aneristic Illusions / Re: LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!
October 31, 2009, 09:42:09 PM
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Biggenveen

I would love to rebel against 4chan and tell you all kinds of fascinating things about myself that allow you to track me down and plant a nuclear device for a careful assassination of yours truly but that'll have to wait for next week because I didn't get my Nobel Prize in theoretical peace yet.



You take the spotlight, kay?