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#1
Principia Discussion / Questions Only
September 08, 2003, 11:22:12 AM
In thirty pages, has anyone learned anything new?
#2
Or Kill Me / Discussion of premise 2
September 07, 2003, 06:44:14 AM
Ok, this may be a bit off topic, but I would like to discuss your second premise (I don't know how to do the nifty quoting thing, so I'll do it the old fasioned way).

St. Trollax said,
"Premise 2:
Said information is filtered through basic behaviours: i.e. the four F's: Fight, Flight, Food, F*** and others. Conclusions based upon this information are then drawn, determining an initial direction of one's thoughts."

I contend that there are not four but five F's.  Fight, Flight, Food, F***, and Fellowship.  This makes the theory better on two levels, practical and theoretical.  

Practical:
    Fellowship (aka: love) is at least perhaps more of a biological need that F***.  Now, you may say that love is just a by product of the need for sex, but to you nay sayers I say NAY.  Firstly, neither one of them is actually, in the strictest sense of the word, a "need".  Without food, you will die.  The end.  You will NOT die without sex. (Some of us may need to take a deep breath here and get our minds around this.)  In the same way, you will not die without fellowship.  However, they are both still biological needs, in that in order to be a well adjusted person and not an uptight prozac-popping Thuddite, you must partake.
    A child in its early devolopment "needs" love from its parents.  As the child grows older it begins to "need" love from its peers.  Some of you may say, in the style of the true Ayn Rand individualist, "I don't need nobody but myself so PHTHTTTT!!"  This is obviously not true.  For one, I have friends who are male.  This greatly reduces my chances of ever propigating with them.  For another, as I know from experiance, go to a place where nobody speaks your language and see how long it takes before you start to go crazy for lack of a friend.
    In our society, there is much confusion about basic needs.  For example, 70% of Americans are so chronicly dehydrated that they mistake thirst for hunger.  The fight/flight reflex is so screwed up by the constant barrage of displays of street violence on TV news and other places that you can hardly go outside your home without your sympathetic nervous system going off resulting in nervousness, tension, cold sweat, carrying a gun around in the trunk of your car, etc.  And then faced with a situation where the reflex might actually come in handy, most of us have such jaded and worn down fight/flight reflexes that we just stand there like stupid deer in the head lights.  Finaly, I come to F***/Fellowship.  How many people do we know who mistake the need for sex with the need for love.  Just about damn everybody.

Theory:
    This is where I prove that Fellowship is the Fifth "F".  Firstly, to include Fellowship into the F's is in accord with the Law of Fives, making it automaticaly a better theory.  Second, it makes the whole thing much prettier.  Food (representing any basic biological need.  There is no need to include sleep and water and whatnot) stands alone.  It has no opposite.  Also, there are two sets of two F's which are opposite but complementary.  Fight/Flight, F***/Fellowship.  If you set this in a graphical sense, you get a five pointed star with Food at the top, Fight opposing Flight, and F*** opposing Fellowship.
    Also, it is no coincedence that each of the five F's correspond so easily with the five basic elements (stop me if you think I'm taking this too far.  oh wait, you can't!  Muah Ha Ha!  I win!) Food coresponds to Orange, Fight corresponds to Boom, Flight corresponds to Prickle, F*** corresponds to pungent, and Fellowship corresponds to Sweet.

Anyway, if this isn't proof enough to you that there are five F's and that Fellowship is one of them, there will never be enough.  As for the rest of the argument, Yay!  Have fun.



Freedom for Quebec from the Iron Hand of Canada!
#3
In order for a rev*lution to be succesful (successful [it's creative spelling ok?] meaning liberating) it must be a rev*lution not of the government but of people's minds.  If the government is ov3rthrown without people's minds being changed, you just end up with more repr3ssion (ie USSR or Cuba).

Some punk rock guy once said that "the masses are asses".  This is not entirely true.  They seem to be only because they are enslaved to outdated and obsolete memes, which only exist due to their inertia.  For example: cooperation can be mathematicly proven to be more creative than competition, however the master/slave mentality still exists.  Why?  Inertia.

Clearly, the thing to do is to create better memes, more fit memes, more relevant memes, and disiminate them.  The problem here is that the outdated memes have created for themselves entire systems dedicated to maintaining them.  Exhibit A: the state which punishes people for breaking the established rules.  Exhibit B: the media which indocterinates our children with the memes.  There are others.  Until these machines are sab@toged it seems that there is no way to effectivly disiminate the new memes.

This leads us to a catch 22.  A rev*lution of state is worthless without a rev*lution of minds, and a rev*lution of minds is impossible without a rev*lution of state.  

And thus I come to the need for guerill@ surrealism.  Defined as "any act too wierd to be classified by law."  Guerill@ surrealism opperates under the same principles as the turkey curse.  The poor luddites need an atmosphere of anerism to operate.  If we destroy that atmosphere we help destroy their system.

Any way, thats what I have to say.  Excuse the lete hacker speak.  Bear in mind that I write this from a public computer, and I still haven't figured out exactly how much these people care.