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#2
Or Kill Me / Re: My War
March 27, 2007, 12:19:00 AM
actually,  i have to apologize for my initial response. the Rev Rog was dead right, my comment was inappropriate and dumb (phrased as such, in a public forum)


think i got worked up just a tad. Hunter D, i am def. on the same page with that and you said it perfectly. i'll leave it at that.

#3
Or Kill Me / Re: On Conspiracy Theorism
March 26, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
makes sense on the government red herring front, 'cept it doesn't seem like the decades of these floating thingies have really panned out into visible hardware. of course there's gonna be tons of shit that never sees the light of day, but the bureaucratic government eventually wants to use all the toys they've spent billions of our money on.. yah, we got the newer stealthier stuff but no interesting propulsion, only primitive VTOL, etc. dunno...

believe me, i'm no die hard ufo junky.. i've just been piqued out of my cynicism a little bit.


as for 9/11.. well. guess this really isn't the venue for either of these topics.

#4
Or Kill Me / Re: My War
March 26, 2007, 09:14:19 PM
'strue yer not going to change anyones mind with violence, but sometimes there are specific situations that require violence. it's not about changing minds, it's about efficiency. solving problems, if you will.

fyi, i'm not advocating literal arson here..

other words, i'm always down for a good fistfight in an area where people are getting attacked or  heckled severely. been there, will continue to be there.

is that safer enough for now?

#5
Or Kill Me / Re: On Conspiracy Theorism
March 26, 2007, 08:11:51 PM
awesome summary of the topic... I've been around the conspiracy circuit pretty thoroughly, and have run into pretty much the same conclusions. Sure, the Templars might have turned into the Freemasons, but past the American Revolution the Freemasons have turned into a nearly impotent social club. Etc and so on.

Oddly enough, as I was debunking some of the juicier government conspiracies (Cain, again right on the money- there are conspiracies but it's almost all in plain site- IMF, World Bank, Haliburton)

one thing I never expected to see ANY weight to started cropping up in my field of vision.. UFO/ET  stuff. What's the deal there? I've scoffed at that arena for years, but I keep running into deep running themes. Ancient/historic artwork that depicts things damn like spaceships/spacesuits, etc  bug me especially.
(for example: http://www.ufoartwork.com/)

Oh, and what about 9/11? I still have some serious questions about that (been following that one since day of, long before it became a hype event- which i think is interesting in and of itself, the amount of controversy that has sprung up)


any thoughts on those two?
#6
Or Kill Me / Re: My War
March 26, 2007, 07:02:35 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on February 28, 2007, 07:53:03 AM
Warning: Radical ideas ahead...

My form letter?:
Dear Bigot,
You may have noticed that I took the liberty of slashing your tires and putting a brick through your windshield. The psychological and financial pain you are feeling reflects the pain you have put others through during your years of bigotted discrimination. Perhaps it is time to rethink your life.
I know where you live,
White like you.
(or black, or straight, or whatever to drive it home)

Others write songs discouraging racism. People hold marches to promote gay right or open racial dialogue.
I am not an artist.
I am a soldier.
Prepare for war.

yer not fighting alone.

i'm working with a lil group of m i l i t ant fuckers here. give a holler if you ever want a hand torching something. diyrevolution [-at-] gmail

#7
Bring and Brag / Re: memejuice
March 25, 2007, 11:35:36 PM
Quote from: Ambassador KAOS on March 25, 2007, 09:46:56 PM
nice tune, I listened to about half the first one.  Send me a demo, I'll listen to it and I'll spin it some time. 
email me at admin@aklokwerkkaos.com and I'll send you my address.

I make noise too, though I don't have anything recent posted (have 2 albums I'm working on simultaneously right now, one for each project) I do have a bunch of archived stuff. 
hit this
www.aklokwerkkaos.com
there is myspace links there too.
AKK is more industrial/goth/metal (though the metal thing is kinda new and is going to be featured more on the upcoming record).
AKK presents... is my tongue in cheek electronic side project and uses all sortsa song formats and styles, though it's pretty much instrumental.
EET FECES,
Ambassador KLOK KAOS


cool deal. sent ya an email. i saw your site posted the other day, took a quick look. didn't get to listen to noises yet, was at work and on a slow connection at home.
#8
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 25, 2007, 08:23:39 PM
Remorse happens to the best of us.

The best of us shake it off like an itchy nutsack and get on with what we were doing.

hah! agreed.
no bigger waste than guilt.
#9
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2007, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: 1231 on March 25, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
(i did break into a friggin church, they had me there- but its one of those corporate profiting 'assemblies of god' pentecostal gigs, so i hold no remorse).

Why would you hold any remorse under any circumstances?

ALL religions that actually build churches are heathens.

yesh, but with most of them i respect their right to be superstitious and silly. it's the ones that use NLP and other proven techniques (trance induction and whatnot) to extort the fools in the pews.... them i have issue with. =)

#10
its interesting to see the only point anyone disagrees here is on the humanitarian line.

i've had some grazes with the justice system, and a good nymber of my near and dear have had a good deal more. i have also lived in the poor quarters, incl. on the street for a time. some of the best friends i've made wandering around have been homeless, and almost all 'criminals' in one sense or another. even here in my hometown (small rural mountain region) there is def. a distinctive prison sub culture. a big issue is the cost of being in the system. many people who were broke to start have to pay (in personal experience) > $500 / month just to be on probation. as you can guess, the odds of doing something illegal to make cash and ending up back in are high. in a round about way, the profit of the prison systems is strongarmed out of the constuients. btw, i 100% agree with the statement that the prison culture has become a distinctive culture. there are def. subsections, and exceptions- but a huge portion, maybe a majority are people that really shouldn't be there.

in regards to the self responsibility issue, i say its def. degrees on both side. a friend of mine said today while discussing this topic "for every person that made a smart choice and escaped the system, there's another who made the same choice and still got sucked back in"
he should know, it happened to him a couple times before he made a clean break. and still you never know... i have footage of him being strong armed by the cops. he's been pushed down stairs. the interesting fact is he hadn't committed a crime on these occasions. every time i've been arrested (5 times or so) except for one has been on bogus charges (i did break into a friggin church, they had me there- but its one of those corporate profiting 'assemblies of god' pentecostal gigs, so i hold no remorse). its far less likely now that we are wary of the shit, but it's still possible we could be profiled and pinched for no particular reason, with the best possible outcome being misc. expenses and another note on the ol' rap sheet (i saw mine not too long ago, i actually look like a full fledged criminal on paper) and the worser outcome being prison time for no particular reason, then probation and fines.



another example is my mate, tyrone. he's in right now, i have no idea how long for. he is a perfect example of how the dice can just roll against you every time. ty is pushing (or past, i can't remember) 50. he is one of the most real, grounded men i've known. he is a true warrior, and his eyes are open. but here's why that doesn't keep him out of prison: he's poor, black, and from new york city. he simply can not function in this area. no one will hire a 50 year old black man with his dialect and accent, even without the 3 ft. dredlocks. i met him a couple of years ago when i moved into a duplex in the south (poor) end of the city proper. he lived in the other half. we 'recognized' each other the first time we meet (don't mean in some new agey past life way, i mean it in a new agey i always know when i meet somebody lucid, don't you?) and i can definitely speak for his intelligence, motives, intuition, and everything else that should be a factor. and yet he's been in prison at least 3 times since i've known him. he doesn't deal drugs, he doesn't steal. he is poor so he wanders around town with other poor folk sometimes. that's enough to invite incarceration.


there are def. repeat offenders who are just dumb, and there's no other way around it- but even in the case of utter ignorance and disregard for consequences, i still think the 'justice' system still takes advantage of the situation.


my 2cents.

#11
Bring and Brag / memejuice
March 22, 2007, 07:23:04 PM
sveet, i finally get a werking account here. happy.

shameless first post? of course.

2 meme trees that might be inneresting to some:

http://prahdukt.com
http://1c0na.com