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Seriously though, isn't this more of an Op:Mindfuck topic? It being a pseudo-jake and all...

Bill Murray has to be Jesus, or God at least.

Of course, Baby Steps, a la What About Bob?

,ÄúOnly put off until tomorrow what you are willing to die having left undone.,Äù - Pablo Picasso

"A sad man never frowns; a happy man never smiles." - Immanuel Freon

Never give up man, life is as good as you make it. It's even better if you think it is.

Very true, "up" is simply easier.

Ah Slarti, you've gone and mindfucked yourself. At least Guido's pacifying you.

You do have a point though, all this stuff we do (as Discordians), it doesn't work. That's what's great, we're just as hypocritical as those we accuse of hypocrisy. But there lies the strength of our "Discordian" society. We are a bulging paradox, we don't make sense, we aren't even real Discordians.

But the moment anyone listens to me on what Discordia is, they're truly lost.

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Though I choose different words, methods and reasons than Roger, I too wish to see a self-examination of the "Discordian" community.

However, Roger has once again given us a Catch-22. If we disagree, then we have done as he has predicted. If we agree, we'd have to change, and despite what the Chaos Preacher may tell you, even the self-proclaimed Erisian dislikes change.

But there is a third option, which Roger also touched upon.

FUCK YOU, REV!

That about sums it up.

If Discordianism intended us to just go about pulling down our pants in public and eating hot dogs then it would be no better than any other institutional church. But is is better, much better. Discordianism demands that you disregard its very tenets. So disregard for fuck's sake!

Speaking of shovelling snow, what's up with the weather here? Took me 30 minutes to go 2 blocks in this shitstorm.

This coastal weather doesn't agree with me. We get the cold, the coasts get the ridiculous snowfall, that's the way it always works. Ahwell, only three more months of this to go.

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland. And, I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
- Morpheus

I, too, have a question. Is the monkey that hears no evil better than the monkey that sees no evil?

Whatever system you choose, whichever method you employ, the effect is the same. Christians use faith in the supernatural to justify their lack of understanding. Atheists use science or some related field to explain a universe they know has more questions than we can ever have answers. We, the Discordian Minority, use absurdity and rhetoric as a substitute for any true metaphysical knowledge.

Are we any better than any of the others? Sure, we're open-minded, yet we refuse to open our minds to the close-minded (Cf. The Heresies by the Reverend Roger). As Discordians, we really have to ask ourselves exactly which pill we've taken. Or if it matters what side of the looking glass we're on, if we still only see a reflection.


To your point on Genesis, I think you may have struck a chord with the Gnostic interpretaion. To some of the Gnostics, the apple in the Garden contained more than God would have liked to say. For some, the apple contained a divine wisdom that God hid from us. The snake, to them, was not evil, but a messenger, telling Adam and Eve the truth that God would not reveal. I'm not exactly sure how this relates to your point directly, but I'll stir it around for a while and see what I think in a day or so.

Looks like it works just fine for us as well.

Self-contradiction is the path of wisdom,
Nonsense the path of enlightenment,
And idiocy the path of greatness.

I was more saying there is a opposite to what you said that makes as much sence.
But lets pretend I ment it:
I was not saying the system makes the choices, but rather that the only choices we have are once we can see. And we can only see things in the same system as us. you can't  make a choice that you don't know exsists.

Ah, we're playing that game. Therefore, all I have ever said can be interpreted in any way one deems necessary to prove my own point.

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We know we're all Discordians (even those of us too stubborn to see it). We (this forum) are stubborn enough to admit our own Discordianity, that's our defining feature.

Now we just have to find out what being a Discordian is...

I believe Roger is doing a bang up job of illuminating that pitch-black hole that Eris has tunneled through the gelatin minds of the Grey. I say we explore his ideas, not deplore them; expand them, not refuse them.

Or we can tell each other to fuck off and see where we get. Either way, fnord.

"There is no Discordia"? But there must be I am a part of it. I make there be a discordia. There will be chritianity as long as there are chritians.

You must understand me then, you just proved my point.

And if the system makes our choices for us, then are you saying we're all Greyfaces? Discordians included?

I like what you're doing Roger, whether or not you intend on doing so. You're making us look systematically at our self-proclaimed anti-systematic movement.

If we listen to Eris, aren't we doing exactly what she said not to?

If we tell Roger what to do or not to do, we are thereby defying our own nature as Discordians. If we agree with his system then we also defy Discordian principle. But there is no Discordian principle to defy. There is no Discordia, there is no Eris, my friends.

There are no systems but those you choose to accept.

I'd say that most Discordians were Refugees of one form or another, rather than Wildes. Wilde is a difficult man to emulate, especially for a heterosexual such as myself.