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#1
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
March 21, 2012, 10:43:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: Pope Hobohemian on March 20, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on March 17, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Hobohemian on March 16, 2012, 11:11:56 PM

See, I may not be a "True Dischordian", so my opinion may not carry much weight, but it seems to me that I'm not - as a fake discordian - inclined to side with either the police OR Occupy.

Though I gotta say, their "general assemblies" have been nothing short of hilarious.  It's primate politics at its finest.

Yeah, I certainly don't want to replace our government with direct democracy.  People are too apathetic.  Even among occupy folks, most don't pay attention to the GA anymore.

But if you are a real discordian, and you don't see any reason to oppose the police, who are the physical manifestation of authority and male hierarchy here in America, I don't know what else to say
#2
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
March 20, 2012, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on March 19, 2012, 09:09:50 PM
Anybody pay attention to the six month anniversary rally in Zucotti park? It got pretty ugly.

We did 2 solidarity marches in Oakland.  On Sunday we surprised the OPD and managed to get right next to their main police station, so we had a dance party there until they showed up in their cute riot suits. 
#3
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
March 20, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on March 17, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Hobohemian on March 16, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
OK, so hmmm.... not so much the type of response I was hoping for.  Not that I expect discordians (sic?) to be serious all the time.  But I wasn't expecting to be called an asshole because I want to use the Occupy movement as a way of spreading culture jamming.  And making fun of my spelling is kind of ridiculous.  Just the type of thing I'd expect from any random forum of internet geeks, whereas I was kinda hoping that this group would be different.  Oh well. 

I actually was a huge Fugazi fan when I was a kid, around the same time I read Illuminatus and got into that stuff.  So that's probably why I spell it "dischordian."  I think it's kind of funny that a bunch of people devoted to the sacred chao would get their panties in a bunch over how somebody spells it.  From now on maybe I should just spell it randomly differently every time just to annoy you.  And to delight any true dischordians who might be watching the carnage.

I'm particularly annoyed at the poster who tried to tell me that I was going to bring violence from the police.  Fuck you.  No really.  Maybe you don't know the difference between Occupy Oakland and any other random liberal Occupy group who sit around mentally masturbating and carrying signs all day.  Well, instead of taking the chance to learn, you lectured at me like I'm a child. 

Is that how it is here?  Every new poster is just an excuse for the "regulars" to have a few laughs?  I hate that shit.  I'm not going to waste my time here if this is just a circle jerk for malcontented pseudo-intellectual geeks.           
Wow, I think this post captured every single butthurt noob complaint about PD in one magnificent pile. I am a particular fan of the last line about "malcontented pseudo-intellectual geeks". Man, that was funny the first 20 times I heard it, and I'll be jiggered if it ain't funny this time.  :lulz:

In all seriousness, however, if you decide to spread culture jamming via Occupy, there is a very real chance that something involved in O:MF which is labelled as vandalism gets thrown back to Occupy, which, in turn, causes police intervention to a greater degree. <= This is advice/warning.

To be fair, why would you want to fuck with the Occupy people is a valid question, considering a "magnification in traditional religious language" is incredibly vague, and honestly, not worth inciting violence over. So, following this train of thought... you might need to be lectured like a twelve year old.

Just sayin'.

OK, thank you for a genuine response finally.  No, I do not want to fuck with the Occupy people.  I don't know how anybody can think that.  I guess it's just that I look on Occupy as a physical manifestation of KLF.  I don't see it as something external to Occupy.  There has already been a lot of culture jamming going on.  It should get more intense just like everything else should get more intense.  The media is always going to label something as vandalism, and they push a dialectic where the vandalism = violence and that somehow justifies a violent response.  That's actually what we have already experienced at Oakland, not something that I would try to bring here.  What I would like is that if the "vandalism" was more along the lines of creative culture-jam ideas and less of the random stuff, I think it would actually make our case against the police a lot stronger in the long run as well as serve more usefully to spread our counter-propaganda. 
#4
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
March 16, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
OK, so hmmm.... not so much the type of response I was hoping for.  Not that I expect discordians (sic?) to be serious all the time.  But I wasn't expecting to be called an asshole because I want to use the Occupy movement as a way of spreading culture jamming.  And making fun of my spelling is kind of ridiculous.  Just the type of thing I'd expect from any random forum of internet geeks, whereas I was kinda hoping that this group would be different.  Oh well. 

I actually was a huge Fugazi fan when I was a kid, around the same time I read Illuminatus and got into that stuff.  So that's probably why I spell it "dischordian."  I think it's kind of funny that a bunch of people devoted to the sacred chao would get their panties in a bunch over how somebody spells it.  From now on maybe I should just spell it randomly differently every time just to annoy you.  And to delight any true dischordians who might be watching the carnage.

I'm particularly annoyed at the poster who tried to tell me that I was going to bring violence from the police.  Fuck you.  No really.  Maybe you don't know the difference between Occupy Oakland and any other random liberal Occupy group who sit around mentally masturbating and carrying signs all day.  Well, instead of taking the chance to learn, you lectured at me like I'm a child. 

Is that how it is here?  Every new poster is just an excuse for the "regulars" to have a few laughs?  I hate that shit.  I'm not going to waste my time here if this is just a circle jerk for malcontented pseudo-intellectual geeks.           

#5
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
March 14, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
Hi everybody -- I just joined this forum; my wife and I are dischordians (I'm a Pope; she was a Pope until she excommunicated herself) and we have been involved with Occupy Oakland since basically day one.  Only recently, due to some magnification of traditional religious language within our movement here, have I begun to think that some form of dischordianism and/or a somewhat more oganized framework for culture jamming might be beneficial or even crucial in our ongoing efforts to fuck up the system at Occupy Oakland.  I don't really know what is happening at all these other "occupy" groups, but I can tell you that in Oakland we have not backed down and we have not co-operated with the city or the paramilitary police in the OPD.  I want to start a group to spread Operation Mindfuck at Occupy Oakland, and I'm soliciting advice and/or warnings from the group.  Thanks in advance,