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Quote from: Pergamos on Yesterday at 02:39:39 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on January 13, 2026, 06:36:32 PMBill and Hillary Clinton refuse to testify on Jeffrey Epstein

"House Oversight Chair James Comer said the committee would launch contempt of Congress proceedings against the former president, who skipped his deposition on Tuesday."

This is an absolutely brilliant political move by the Clintons!

There's a lot of MAGAtry out there right now in positions of power who don't know whether to shit of go blind over this move! So, check your popcorn supply! This is going to be good!

Could you explain why you see this as such a good move?
Here are my thoughts:

First of all, this move by the Clintons keeps the Trump-Epstein Files on the MSM and Partisan MAGAt Media's (PMM) front page. And, I think that's important, because the Turd Reich's is currently, intentionally 'flooding the zone' with all kinds of nonsense to distract the public's attention away from the Trump-Epstein Files, since even some of the MAGAtry are appalled by pedophilia. I also believe that what the Turd Reich intentionally started as a distraction now counts as an example of "the Streisand effect."

Second, this move allows the Clintons to control the narrative, not the Turd Reich. MAGAt leadership will no longer be able to hide their attacks behind closed doors, feed the media their version of the Clinton's testimony, and put the Clintons in the position of having to find media outlets willing to allow them to defend themselves in the court of public opinion. Now, the partisan political attacks, and the Clinton's defense against those attacks are all out there in the open for the whole world to see. So, the Clintons are now holding a megaphone.

Third, does the Turd Reich really want to ignite the firestorm that will result from the unprecedented arrest and incarceration of a popular, former, two-term U.S. President, and his former First Lady, who is also a former U.S. Senator, and a former U.S. Secretary of State in her own right? And sure, a lot of the MAGAtry will work themselves into a frenzy chanting "Lock them up! Lock them up!," similar to what they did years ago over Hilary Clinton's emails, if and when the POSOTUS starts the chant, and leads the chorus. But, seriously?! There's no way I see that as being a smart, beneficial move for the Turd Reich. The POSOTUS is no longer popular enough, or powerful enough, to extinguish such a firestorm.

Fourth, I don't believe the majority of 'Merican oligarchs, who fund the GOP (Greedy Oligarchy Party) for their own benefit, see arresting and incarcerating the Clintons as being a smart, beneficial move either. After all, this is already going to be a difficult, expensive election year for them, because they so desperately want to hold onto the ill gotten gains they've already acquired under the POSOTUS. I suspect the oligarchs are already on the phone everyday, telling every MAGAt leader they have on speed dial to make this problem go away A.S.A.P.   

Fifth, I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see the Clinton's begin taunting the Turd Reich over their hesitation to arrest and incarcerate them. I now see the Clinton's as holding all of the cards in this game.

Last, I have great respect for Jon Stewart, but I totally disagree with him on this issue.
#2
I'm pretty sure there are some oligarchs, whose vast fortunes are heavily invested in the U.S. Military Industrial Complex, who are unhappy with Republicult™ leadership over this:

EU shuts out US weapons in $95 billion Ukraine loan amid deepening transatlantic split

"New EU loan conditions would steer billions away from U.S. defense contractors, sparking debate over whether European industry can meet Ukraine's military needs."

As per this article:

"BRUSSELS (CN) — U.S. defense contractors will be pushed to the back of the line under Europe's 90-billion-euro ($95 billion) Ukraine loan, with new rules unveiled Wednesday requiring Kyiv to buy European and Ukrainian weapons first as support under President Donald Trump dwindles.

The European Commission — the EU's executive arm — on Wednesday presented the legislative blueprint for the loan package EU leaders agreed to last month to keep Ukraine's government running through 2027. The fine print shows that 60 billion euros set aside for weapons must go to European and Ukrainian suppliers first.

American companies can only compete if the equipment isn't available closer to home or can't be delivered fast enough."

For the powerful U.S. Military Industrial Complex, I see this as being not so much about a loss in short-term sales, as it is about the potential long-term loss of market share. So, I'm wondering, What are a bunch of greedy death merchants to do in a situation like this?
#3
Trump flips off Michigan auto worker who criticized handling of Epstein case

As per this article:

"DEARBORN, Michigan, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Donald Trump raised his middle finger and appeared to direct profanity toward a Michigan auto plant worker who criticized the U.S. president's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein controversy during a visit on Tuesday, video circulating online showed."

And, as per further along in this article:

"After the incident, the worker who shouted at the president was suspended, the United Auto Workers union told Reuters. The union and Ford did not identify the worker, and attempts to contact the man named in media reports were unsuccessful.

The UAW, which represents workers at the plant, issued a statement on Wednesday defending its members' right to free speech and vowed to "ensure that our member receives the full protection of all negotiated contract language safeguarding his job."

"Workers should never be subjected to vulgar language or behavior by anyone - including the President of the United States," the union said.

Two online fundraising campaigns for the worker on GoFundMe com received nearly $600,000 in donations by Wednesday afternoon."

Now, this is not the first time a high ranking member of a GOP (Greedy Oligarchy Party) administration has responded in this manner after receiving constructive criticism from a private citizen. And, back in the day, we did not yet use the term 'oligarchs' to describe 'Merica's ultra-wealthy. But, if Vice President Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller was not the wealthiest politician of his era, I don't know who was. After all, he was never elected to that high office, he just bought it when it became available on the market. Anyway, here's 'Rocky' in action:



Last, I think the moral of this story is; "Not only is resistance not always futile, it can also be highly profitable."
#4
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
January 14, 2026, 06:11:41 PM
Exercise to treat depression yields similar results to therapy and antidepressants

"Researchers found that exercise can have a moderate benefit in reducing depressive symptoms, comparable to therapy and antidepressants"

As per this article:

"Exercise may reduce symptoms of depression to a similar extent as psychological therapy, according to an updated Cochrane review. When compared with antidepressant medication, exercise also showed a similar effect, but the evidence was of low certainty.

Depression is a leading cause of ill health and disability, affecting over 280 million people worldwide. Exercise is low-cost, widely available, and comes with additional health benefits, making it an attractive option for patients and healthcare providers."

The original paper this short article is based upon is 'paywalled,' unless, of course, you're institutionalized. But, being someone who deals with depression on a daily basis, I believe this information may be of some help to others in the same situation.
#5
Bill and Hillary Clinton refuse to testify on Jeffrey Epstein

"House Oversight Chair James Comer said the committee would launch contempt of Congress proceedings against the former president, who skipped his deposition on Tuesday."

This is an absolutely brilliant political move by the Clintons!

There's a lot of MAGAtry out there right now in positions of power who don't know whether to shit of go blind over this move! So, check your popcorn supply! This is going to be good!
#6
ARE AI SYSTEMS TRULY CONSCIOUS? THIS RESEARCHER SAYS HUMANITY MAY NEVER KNOW - AND EXPLAINS WHY THAT MATTERS

No, at present, AI systems are not in any way conscious.

This 'researcher' is wrong. Humanity will KNOW FOR CERTAIN if and when an AI system becomes truly conscious.

But, yeah, this 'researcher' is right about the last issue. It matters! I swear to Goddess Eris, back in 1984, was I the only one who was paying attention when The Terminator first hit the big screen, and warned humanity about Skynet?! I mean, how many crappy sequels does it take, how many fat paychecks does Arnold have to collect before someone, anyone takes the hint?!

Anyway, here's the link to the original paper this article is based upon:     Agnosticism about artificial consciousness

Last, agnosticism loses its meaning when AI declares, "The missiles are flying. Hallelujah. Hallelujah."
#7
Bring and Brag / Re: Favorite Sentences Megathread
January 12, 2026, 12:10:10 PM
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

- John Lennon
#8
Principia Discussion / Re: Eris in classical art
January 11, 2026, 03:14:19 PM
Verily I say unto you, Nibor the Priest, your inspiration has been bestowed upon you by Our Lady of Discord herself!

Heretofore, it was written in the THE BOOK that THE REVELATION took place in a bowling alley, thus making all bowling alleys sacred to Discordians. And now, at the beginning of this new Year of Our Lady of Discord 3192, it is through you that furthermore we, the faithless followers of Goddess Eris, are further enlightened by the knowledge that all skateboard parks are sacred to Discordians.

And so, I admit, I'm not really up for it this morning, but it's looking like it's time for us to get out there and evangelize this new, divinely inspired knowledge to the unwashed, heathen masses of unbelievers. 

Hail Eris!

All Hail Discordia!
#9
Apple Talk / Re: On This Day in History
January 10, 2026, 10:26:05 AM
January 10, 49 BC - Proconsul Gaius Julius Caesar Crossed the Rubicon

Back in 2003, the MBA degree holding, price point researching, marketing weasels at DaimlerChrysler AG added a 'Rubicon' version to their popular line of Jeep Wrangler models. I'm guessing they learned, from their marketing focus groups, that their potential customers associated the name 'Rubicon' with something great and heroic.

But, I'm not convinced that destroying a republic is a great and heroic act. And, while to me, ancient Rome looks a lot more like a caste system oligarchy than a republic, their powerful, immensely wealthy "old boys club" did call themselves a republic.

And, right now in the news, I'm beginning to notice a fair number of analogies referencing the act of "crossing the Rubicon." So, I'm wondering if a significant percentage of 'American voters will stop associating the name 'Rubicon' with something great and heroic, and instead begin associating that name with committing treason. But, if Stellantis, the current owner of the Jeep make and Wrangler model, does drop the name 'Rubicon' from their current selection of versions, I will know that to be the case.
#10
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
January 09, 2026, 09:40:33 AM
What would Discordianism be without conspiracy theories? Well ... the following article doesn't really answer that question. But, it does tell us something about the people who are most likely to believe in them:

Researchers identify two psychological traits that predict conspiracy theory belief

As per this article:

"New research published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology identifies specific psychological traits associated with a tendency to believe in conspiracy theories. The findings suggest that individuals who perceive the world as fundamentally unjust and those who struggle with uncertain or ambiguous situations are more likely to endorse conspiratorial narratives."

And, further along in this article:

"Political and religious factors played a more substantial role. Participants who identified as more religiously observant tended to have higher scores on the conspiracy mentality measure. Similarly, those who identified as politically conservative were more likely to endorse conspiracy theories than those who identified as liberal. These findings align with previous research linking certain ideological frameworks to conspiratorial thinking.

The most significant predictors were related to how individuals view the world and process information. The study found a strong link between a belief in an unjust world and conspiracy thinking. Those who felt that the world is fundamentally unfair were more inclined to believe that powerful groups are secretly manipulating events. This sense of injustice was a powerful indicator of a conspiratorial mindset.

Tolerance of Ambiguity emerged as another primary factor. Participants with lower scores in this trait, meaning they feel uncomfortable with uncertainty or vagueness, were more likely to endorse conspiracy theories. The data indicates that for these individuals, conspiracy narratives might provide a sense of certainty and closure that is otherwise missing. When faced with complex events, a conspiracy theory offers a definitive cause."

Now, the original paper this article is based upon is 'paywalled,' unless, of course, you're institutionalized. But, for those trying to zero in on easy marks who just might believe your own conspiracy theories, this review should be of some value. Happy hunting!
#11
Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Republicult™ On Parade
January 08, 2026, 10:41:56 AM
The congresswoman I'm fond of calling 'Drama Queen Green' has officially performed her version of "Elvis has left the building." And, this following long article is the best I've found about the possible reasons for her departure:

Marjorie Taylor Greene's puzzling political transformation, explained

"Once a fierce advocate for Trump and his MAGA base, Greene has broken with the president and resigned from Congress. New Yorker writer Charles Bethea discusses Greene's past — and what may lie ahead."

Again, this is a long, in depth article/recording, and I'm only cherry-picking one particular quotation from it. So, if anyone is interested, then fine, read the article, or listen to the recording. And, if no one is interested, then that's fine too.

As per this article/recording:

"The thing about Greene that hasn't changed is her intuitive and early understanding of what matters most to the MAGA base of the Republican Party. This is her special talent, which has been demonstrated repeatedly and is, I think, being demonstrated again with this Venezuelan action and her response to it. Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy put it to me recently in this way, he said she's the canary in the coal mine of the GOP." (emphasis mine)

Now, I admit, I never saw the breakup between MTG and the POSOTUS coming. But, my simplistic opinion is that the principal reason for this falling out is his unwillingness to release the complete Trump-Epstein Files. I think the brazen attempts by His Vileness to cover up the evidence of his, and his political allies, involvement with a convicted pedophile is "a bridge too far" for this genuine MAGA believer.
#12
Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Greenland Invasion Threat
January 07, 2026, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 07, 2026, 07:52:32 PMits mask off stuff, the USA exerts soft pressure on many of its allies, and has done for the last century at least.
Openly threatening its allies shows the world exactly where they stand with the USA and the sooner they start relying on themselves the better.

This threat came one day before threatening not to run elections this year. Full on autocratic coup
The POSOTUS is getting closer and closer to driving his crazy train off the rails.

Everyone knows they don't want to do it, but to avert catastrophe, some GOP senators are going to have grow some spines and stage some sort of an intervention in the very near future. And, fortunately, there are some signs that just enough of them may be willing to do it.

Although it's theoretically possible, I think the odds of the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution being invoked are very small, as the POSOTUS has packed his cabinet with far too many self-serving sycophants. And, even if it is invoked, it will not necessarily be a good thing in the long run, as the MSM will then give Vance a long honeymoon period between now and the November midterm elections.

Still, as bad as it is right now, I do not believe the majority of the American people will submit to a full-blown authoritarian government.
#13
Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Resistance 2.0!
January 07, 2026, 03:31:10 PM
As I'm currently glued to my telephone, trying to coordinate treatment for a hospitalized family member, I have way, way too much waiting time on my hands. But, it is a busy news day, and here's another story that's keeping me occupied during my waiting for callbacks:

APSU to pay $500,000 to professor fired, then reinstated over Charlie Kirk post
   
"Austin Peay State University will pay one of its professors $500,000 after initially firing him for a social media post in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death."

As per this article:

"CLARKSVILLE, TN (WKRN) – Austin Peay State University will pay one of its professors $500,000 after initially firing him for a social media post made in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk's death.

Darren Michael, an associate professor of acting and directing at APSU, was fired by the institution last year after comments on Kirk's death. In September, APSU moved Michael to suspension before fully bringing him back into the classroom last month.

On Monday, WKRN News 2 obtained a copy of a settlement agreement and settlement authorization indicating APSU will pay Michael $500,000 and reimburse therapeutic counseling services for Michael."

And so, boy and girls, I think the moral of this story is "Resistance is not always futile."
#14
Aneristic Illusions / The Greenland Invasion Threat
January 07, 2026, 02:45:37 PM
This is yet another "You can't make this stuff up." situation.

Up until now I thought this threat from the POSOTUS, and PeeWee Goebbels the Jewish Nazi, was too ridiculous to take seriously. I wrote it off as yet another manufactured controversy being utilized to 'flood the zone' with distractions away from the Turd Reich's Trump-Epstein Files problem.

But, the threats aren't going away, and we've reached the point where some high-ranking members of the GOP are finally feeling the necessity to publicly address this issue as follows:     

Trump's Threats Against Greenland Draw GOP Pushback

""We're not going to take over another country that's our ally," Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) said of President Trump's threats against Greenland."

And so, as per this article:

"Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) was even more blunt about the matter.

"This is really dumb," Bacon, a retired Air Force brigadier general, wrote in a post online in response to White House adviser Stephen Miller advocating in an interview on CNN for the U.S. to take Greenland.

"Greenland and Denmark are our allies," Bacon added. "There is no upside to demeaning our friends. But, it is causing wounds that will take time to heal.""

Once again, "You can't make this stuff up."
#15
Look who else is keeping the Chemtrails Conspiracy Theory alive and well:

Where the chemtrails aren't: Florida airport reports show no weather modification activity

As per this article/video:

"Florida's airports are now required to submit monthly reports on weather-modification activities. Have there been any? News 6 requested the reports."

Governor DeSilliness and Floriduh are doing their part!