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I don't have much to add here at this point in time, but I did want to pop in to say THANK YOU to those contributing to this conversation, which strikes me as critical in light of the current zeitgeist. Excellent, excellent food for thought here.

Apple Talk / Re: The Compleat Billy Chronicles (thanks to Zenpatista)
« on: November 22, 2017, 05:33:08 pm »
Comics artists starving to death notwithstanding, I truly believe this could have potential to be a "Dilbert for a new generation" kinda thing. I mean that in the best way possible; no offense intended whatsoever.

Not that any of this NEEDS graphical representation. It's pretty much perfect as-is.

Apple Talk / Re: The Compleat Billy Chronicles (thanks to Zenpatista)
« on: November 15, 2017, 04:10:45 pm »
Reading this was the perfect start to my day. Keep on keepin' on, Dok.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: November 09, 2017, 09:53:24 pm »
Fuckin' cancer.
Delayed, but sincere, condolences to you and yours, Chel.

High Weirdness / Re: Narco Bunny Alert in PA
« on: October 18, 2017, 04:25:36 pm »
Is that related to a Pennsylvania Dutch expression?

Possibly? I haven't a clue about most Pennsylvania Dutch customs, to be honest. Something about the idea of narco bunnies made me think of the phrase, which I'm familiar with thanks to Shea and Wilson's Illuminatus!:

"Weishaupt discovered the Law of Fives while he was stoned and looking at one of those shoggoth pictures you saw in Arkham. He imagined the shoggoth was a rabbit and said, 'du hexen Hase,' which has been preserved as an in-joke by Illuminati agent in Hollywood. It runs through the Bugs Bunny cartoons: 'You wascal wabbit!' But out of that schizzy mixture of hallucination and logomania, Weishaupt saw both the mystic meaning the Five and its pragmatic application as a principal of international espionage, using permutations and combinations that I'll explain when I have a pencil and paper."
- The Eye in the Pyramid

The more things change, the more they stay the same and whatnot.

High Weirdness / Re: Narco Bunny Alert in PA
« on: October 17, 2017, 03:57:54 pm »
Du hexen Hase!

Principia Discussion / Re: I'm new, sad, angry and bring a warning.
« on: October 16, 2017, 05:25:58 pm »
Oh yeah, I bought this version of the book about a year ago or so. Intensely disappointing. I don't even know where that copy is; I think I gave it away and repressed the memory of buying it in the first place until now.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:28:19 pm »
Best wishes to your mom, Rog, and to you too.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Stanislav Petrov the end of Days
« on: September 19, 2017, 04:20:19 pm »
I don't have a lot to add, but I'd be remiss not to state my regard for Petrov and this is as good a place as any to do so. RIP sir.

Apple Talk / Re: Are you ready for the finals?
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:22:40 pm »
 D.  "irregardless" made it into the dictionary.


Principia Discussion / Re: A neophyte
« on: September 12, 2017, 04:07:37 pm »

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear," and all that rigmarole. Hope you're able to work through whatever it is that life is throwing at ya.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: September 07, 2017, 11:24:37 pm »
They want the punch. Which is precisely why they shouldn't get the punch.

You rang?

Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« on: August 30, 2017, 03:59:55 pm »
I liked "Manson Moore" quite a bit, but I like retooled Moore more!
Great work!

Bring and Brag / Re: WEIRDOVERSE
« on: August 22, 2017, 10:00:39 pm »
It's like overnight the southeast corner of my office got INFINITELY COOLER.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 21, 2017, 06:32:17 pm »
Might as well chime in, despite my lack of composed thoughts on the topic at hand:

I am not a pacifist, but my grandparents were. They were Peace Corps members. Grandpa was born in India to missionaries but largely exchanged evangelism for more secular overseas approaches.

My grandparents on the other side of the family allegedly met on the way to their first KKK meeting. According to family lore, they ditched the meeting in favor of a romantic date and ended up devoting their time to each other rather than the organization. I like to believe that's true, but then again I have a right to suspect some bias from the storytellers, my parents.

We contain multitudes. I like to acknowledge the disparity in my own family tree because it reminds me, symbolically, of the chaos we each have in our own hearts and lives -- that is, the breathing, balancing push-and-pull of order and disorder, creative and destructive impulses.

I do not identify as a pacifist, per se, but at the same time I do want to be clear that I value non-violence to the extent that non-violence is a viable solution.

That said, I absolutely believe in the necessity of (violent) self-defense. However, my philosophy of self-defense is that it is ideally 99% preparation, 1% application. Be strong enough that nobody wants to fuck with you; be ready enough so that if they do, you're able to protect yourself and the people and values you care for.

I want to be clear that I don't mean to conflate non-violence with a lack of application of values; I am not endorsing fence-sitting or endgame neutrality.

On the other hand, I prefer to explore non-violent solutions before resorting to self-defense and/or violent retaliation when possible and appropriate. A personal example:

I was a big kid in school; I hit my growth spurts early. When I was about 13 years old, during a school lunch break, I saw a group of five or so bullies my size physically harassing a smaller, younger kid. I stood up to the bullies and told them to lay off the kid. They reacted as you'd probably expect, by turning their attention onto me.

I had achieved my desired result: the bullied kid got his respite and was able to sneak away. Having no further plan of action, I simply turned and walked away (back toward the schoolhouse, of course.) I walked slowly, it was not a retreat. I was followed by the bullies and their heckling, and a crowd of spectators was beginning to form.

Then came the sucker-punches to the back of the head and torso. They were firm, but not hard punches. Exploratory punches. Provocative punches. The punches were questions: What is this nerd doing? Why isn't he fighting back? Would we be able to take him down if he did?

After the first few strikes I turned, made eye contact, and told them firmly to stop. The reply was laughs, jeers, and a few more halfhearted jabs, but by then the wind was out of their sails. The assault wasn't fun anymore. Absorbing their assault and shrugging it off denied it of its intended purpose: to dominate and demonstrate power.

By no means do I intend to imply that calling out violence and walking away is the ideal solution. This is merely a personal anecdote with its own contained context to illustrate the point that non-violent action can have a positive effect and can even help reach satisfactory resolutions.

A few caveats: these positive effects do not always scale well. Standing up to a specific group of bullies is waging a very different type of ideological warfare in contrast to standing up to the idea of Nazism in general. Also, had the blows I received been less exploratory and more earnest, then yes, I suspect I would have done more to defend myself violently. I wasn't there to change minds; I was there to keep a kid from getting bodied and bloodied, and in that context I was successful.

I guess to wit I would say, in the larger context of the potential for living in the shadow of fascist violence: have your (metaphorical?) sock of pennies ready, know how to use it, know when to use it, and do your best to keep yourself, your loved ones, and your ideals healthy and intact.

And if one is comfortable enough on the fence to watch fascists take one's neighbors away, I would venture that one's ideals aren't as healthy as they could be to begin with, and that perhaps one should reexamine and nurture those ideals as a component of their self-defense development.

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