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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 16, 2018, 06:10:41 pm »
Well, that was a shitshow, but it doesn't seem to be a world-ending one.  That we know of....

But watching the US President standing next to the Russian one and trashing his own intelligence services was a novel experience

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President Donald Trump was asked outright if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections - and if he would denounce Russia with "the world watching".

Mr Trump dodged the question.

ďPeople came to me, [national intelligence director] Dan Coates came to me and some others, they said they think itís Russia," Mr Trump said.

"President Putin says itís not Russia. I donít see any reason why it should be.Ē

Maybe I'm just not very smart, but that doesn't read like a "dodge" to me.  "I don't see any reason why it should be" is accepting the word of Putin over the DNI.

I am no longer surprised by anything he does.
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"President Trump says itís not Russian collusion. I donít see any reason why it shouldn't be.Ē
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 16, 2018, 03:16:17 pm »
Anyway, the Trump-Putin summit ran over time, even taking into account the pathetic "I'll show up late, now I'll show up late" one upmanship Putin and Trump were doing.

No word yet on what was discusssed behind closed doors.

I bet I know why it ran long . . .





'cos Trump couldn't find his arse with an atlas

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Boris is no great loss either. I'm told he is the next rat who has left the stinking ship. [sic]

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Apple Talk / Re: DSPN Presents: World Cup 2018
« on: June 20, 2018, 12:31:31 pm »
England will probably get through the group stage, which is more than can be said for Australia.  But I am endlessly amused by England fans who insist on the World Cup as their birthright, despite winning it exactly once, 52 years ago.  So watching England, who are IMO are a consistently overrated team, fail at what should be slam dunk games is extremely satisfying for me.

It needn't be this way, either.  Individually, England has some pretty talented players.  But I don't think I've seen a team more averse to the idea of playing as a team than England.  Compare any footage in the last 20 years of England playing, and then throw up some footage of Brazil, Portugal, Serbia or Germany (probably a better comparison for the overall style of play).  In theory, when playing football, you should be playing against 11 other men, but in the case of England, because everyone's out for themselves, they gimp themselves, and so you only ever have to worry about the one with the ball.

And then they wonder why they can't progress past the quarter finals.

Yeah, England have found their level. Making the quarter finals is what they should aim for. I actually remember watching the whole 1966 World Cup on TV. It was in black and white, and very, very small. The first time I ever saw football in colour was that same final when it did the rounds on the newsreels at the local picture house. It was a real shock to see it in Technicolour.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:35:10 pm »
From the This Is The Sort Of Shit We Have To Put Up With Department:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hugs-flag-at-end-of-speech-to-business-group/ar-AAyS7tR?ocid=spartanntp

My eyesight must be failing; I read that as "trump-humps-flag-at-end-of-speech", something I would surely pay good money to see

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Apple Talk / Re: DSPN Presents: World Cup 2018
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:32:28 pm »
England have shown once again that they are a top tier team deserving of winning the World Cup by *checks notes* barely limping to victory over Tunisia.

I should like to say something witty, pithy and germane at his point. Sadly the match was yesterday and it was so instantly forgettable that . . . I got nothing

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Some would say that her main flaw was having a vagina.

From my pov that is essentially the whole problem, glad that it is not just my ridiculous feminist sensitivity leading me to irrational and hysterical conclusions..

From my point of view, you can kiss my ass until the scabs all fall off.

Fuck both of you. 

I'm out.

I still stick by what I said but I have just reread the thread right through and I feel obliged to offer a sincere apology to Roger for the way I barged in out of left field and stomped on his thread. With the benefit of hindsight [20:20 yadda yadda] I really should have taken my query - which is something I am sincerely interested in - to a new thread.
Apologies MMIX

Okay, consider it forgotten.  I'd just prefer to be asked what I meant by a phrase like that, is all.

Yeah, I get that, I think we all need that level of respect  :oops: and thanks

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Some would say that her main flaw was having a vagina.

From my pov that is essentially the whole problem, glad that it is not just my ridiculous feminist sensitivity leading me to irrational and hysterical conclusions..

From my point of view, you can kiss my ass until the scabs all fall off.

Fuck both of you. 

I'm out.

I still stick by what I said but I have just reread the thread right through and I feel obliged to offer a sincere apology to Roger for the way I barged in out of left field and stomped on his thread. With the benefit of hindsight [20:20 yadda yadda] I really should have taken my query - which is something I am sincerely interested in - to a new thread.
Apologies MMIX

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 16, 2018, 04:29:16 pm »
You can do anything when you're a North Korean general...

except keeping breathing, that's kind of moot I hear

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 16, 2018, 01:40:50 pm »


When I first saw this photo, I honestly thought it had been photoshopped.

Even I didnít think Comrade Spanky was so far gone as to have actually done that!

Yeah I was thinking something like that; then I realised that what he is doing isn't actually saluting but moving his hand out of the way so the general can grab him by the junk more easily

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Hillary DID win the popular vote, so she was definitely not the most hated candidate we've ever had.

So why do so many people still say that she was? and I'm not just talking about agent orange and his white tornado

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I suppose, when you are telling someone to fuck off, you should probably elaborate just a little.

A "flawed candidate" is a candidate that loses, especially when they should have stomped all over their opponent in 6 pound shit-kickers.  In Clinton's case, she failed to change gears.  In the primary, her best strategy is the one that she in fact used:  She let the machine handle Sanders.  This is well and good...A candidate who can't grab the levers of power has no business running for president.  If you have control of the machine in the primary, this is PRECISELY what you do.

But then she won the primary, and she ignored her candidate in the general election.  She campaigned badly because she didn't campaign.  She responded to questions about issues with slogans, she designated certain states as "firewall" states (Wisconsin, etc) that turned out to NOT be safe states, and she relied on the machine to deal with someone who was not responsive to the machine (That would be Trump).

You cannot beat a populist with slogans and platitutes.  "Stronger together" is not a fucking policy statement.  Her damage control was just fine, but that's not enough.  In short, she didn't win because she didn't run.

THAT BEING SAID, I am a little fucking sick and tired of being accused semi-annually of being a sexist, a libertarian, a racist, and/or a Nazi as the very first fucking option.

So yeah, fuck right off.
 


Thanks for explaining your take on why Hillary was not a "good candidate", its much appreciated.  I found it interesting because I've not come across many people who actually take the trouble to offer an analysis of any sort as to why she was a "flawed candidate". I would however point out that, in all likelihood, if not for James Comey, an electoral system designed to pander to the "Slave States", and a whole bunch of Russian interferers of various stripes, the candidate who won the majority of the votes would be President and we would not actually be having this conversation.

I watched the candidate debates live and I don't recall Hillary's answers being slogans, certainly not "Better together", which you must admit beats the fucking fuck out of "MAGA" or "Lock her up" or "Drain the swamp". I am not sure how a mainstream political party is actually supposed to deal with the racist, sexist shitshow that was the Trump campaign but it has surely brought some of the nasty underbelly of US political views into the light of day and I don't think that many on the reasonable side of the dabate are particularly happy about that.

I stopped watching and reading British news after the Brexit, the pain was just too raw. Instead I took out subscriptions to The WaPo and NYT and learned to love cable news. Since I have been following US media I have noticed this weird tendency that was the thing I commented on. It seems to be almost impossible for US commentators to mention Hillary without some mention of what a "uniquely hated candidate" she was. Doesn't matter which side you look at they don't seem to be able to get past the "FLAWED" bit. America needs an excuse for electing Trump - even a lot on the right do, Corker, Flake etc Tell you what, lets blame  it on Hillary. What do you think the combined weight of twenty-some years of negative press and structural misogyny has on your opinion of Hillary, whatever you actual politics. And hyperbole, the fucking hyperbole!  Murderer [multiple], crook [a bit close to the wind but never totally proven], baby eater . . . BABY EATER!!!, serial pedophile, fixer for her "can't keep it in his pants husband" jesus fucking christ america GET A GRIP. And if you are not saying all that shit about her then you need to think about whether "FLAWED CANDIDATE" "MOST UNPOPULAR CANDIDATE" don't just help to support the fictions that the RWNJ's have been selling about her for longer than the lifetimes of a lot of voters in the 2016 election.

Here's a quick thought experiment:- if Hillary had won do you think would you feel the same pressing need to tell anyone who will listen just what a "flawed candidate" she was? Do you think maybe the enormity of what has happened to the US since the Trumpocalypse creates some kind of emotional need for some people to blame Hillary for not being able to save them from themselves [and nope I'm not including the 35-40% of Trumps true believers]

@Stella, you said
"Just because she has a twat doesn't mean she's a good person." You're absolutely right but it is also true that just because she has a cunt doesn't mean she is a cunt. And it does mean that people are likely to judge her by different standards

@ Dok You said "She's not a bad person, she's just arrogant and can't hide it." You see her as arrogant and I see her as competent and self confident. Be honest, if she had balls instead of tits would you really think she was "arrogant". Put your hand on your heart and after mature consideration give me an honest answer, or not.

And for what its worth I was NOT actually  trying to accuse you of being "a sexist" any more than LMNO was. 


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Some would say that her main flaw was having a vagina.

From my pov that is essentially the whole problem, glad that it is not just my ridiculous feminist sensitivity leading me to irrational and hysterical conclusions..

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It was about an endless parade of people on FB (and one here, apparently), who tell me that we're better off with actual Goddamn Nazis than we would with an admittedly flawed democratic candidate.

OK this is really starting to piss me off [and NB remember I'm a Brit here] but does it say somewhere in the sodding Constitution that everyfucker in fucking Trumpistan has to mindlessly parrot that Hillary Clinton was "an admittedly flawed democratic candidate" ? We are talking about politicians people, they are all bloody flawed, did you not get the memo? I am just about sick to screaming that one of the best candidates for the presidency in a long while will go down in history as "admittedly flawed" It is like some kind of verbal tic that your whole damn nation has developed; its the ultimate unifying force that underlies the notion of Americanness; I have never heard any other candidate tarred with this brush before. Hillary must be so delighted to be unique amongst her peers. Everyfucker and his dutch uncle, every time the woman's name is mentioned, they just can't help themselves they blurt out "admittedly flawed" before they even think about it.

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Apple Talk / Re: DSPN Presents: World Cup 2018
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:29:35 pm »
Well, allowing that as I write we are 25 mins in and Russia are 1-0 up, I would still recommend rooting for Saudi. Because they are the least likely to get out of the group and if they win that makes it less likely that Russia will progress.

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