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May's previous plan was never going to be accepted, but could probably have been used by the EU as a starting point for some form of negotiations.

This plan is just taking the piss.  The only reason we're not hearing so from Brussells is because they are deathly afraid that May's government will collapse with too much pressure put on it.

I think we've averted a no-confidence vote for this week, with these amendments.  But over the summer there's going to be a concerted campaign to undermine May.  It'll involve Boris, Steve Bannon and Rees-Mogg, among others. Once the summer recess is over, there may well be a major leadership challenge as soon as Westminster goes back to work (and just why are they taking a summer holiday during a national crisis? Because they can).

He also, according to staffers, literally doesn't understand the difference between the interference charges and the collusion charges.  He thinks by admitting that Russia hacked the DNC, he is admitting to working with Russia.

I mean, there is that and the fact he's guilty as fuck and did collude with Russia.

Well, that was a shitshow, but it doesn't seem to be a world-ending one.  That we know of....

But watching the US President standing next to the Russian one and trashing his own intelligence services was a novel experience

President Donald Trump was asked outright if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections - and if he would denounce Russia with "the world watching".

Mr Trump dodged the question.

“People came to me, [national intelligence director] Dan Coates came to me and some others, they said they think it’s Russia," Mr Trump said.

"President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it should be.”

Maybe I'm just not very smart, but that doesn't read like a "dodge" to me.  "I don't see any reason why it should be" is accepting the word of Putin over the DNI.

He was probably telling one of his long, winding, pointless stories where he repeats himself over and over again.  He does have form for that, and by all accounts it's been getting worse over the the past year.

But he was also maybe signing the Crimea away, after trying to locate an atlas and find it.  Apparently the press briefing is due to start in a few minutes, so lets see.

Anyway, the Trump-Putin summit ran over time, even taking into account the pathetic "I'll show up late, now I'll show up late" one upmanship Putin and Trump were doing.

No word yet on what was discusssed behind closed doors.

I just remember him trying to shit all over me back in the day for it, despite it being done out in the open and pretty obviously.  So I'm feeling quite vindicated right now.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 15, 2018, 05:08:45 pm »
It's almost a shame Ron Paul is banned.

Because it would be hilarious to rub it in his face right now re: my suspicions of the DNC hack, the GRU, Wikileaks and Roger Stone

Apple Talk / Re: Back in FB Jail.
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:10:01 pm »
I think it was when someone posted that potato video to your timeline.  FB was trying to save you.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:07:31 pm »
It puts further political pressure on a government hanging by a thread due to Brexit, and empowers the British far-right at a time when they need to have less of a voice in how the nation is run, not more.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 14, 2018, 09:18:56 am »

This is beginning to look like a trend.

So is this:

Sam Brownback, the U.S. Ambassador for International Religious Freedom, complained to the British ambassador in Washington D.C. about the treatment of an English right-wing activist who is in jail for disrupting a trial, according to three sources familiar with the discussion.

Brownback raised the case of the activist known as Tommy Robinson in a June meeting with Sir Kim Darroch, Britain’s Ambassador to the United States, according to a British official and two sources close to the organizers of a pro-Robinson demonstration planned for London on Saturday.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, though he also uses other aliases, is a founder of the English Defense League, which has organized violent demonstrations against Islamic immigrants in the UK in the past decade. More recently, Robinson has branded himself a journalist and campaigner against Islamic extremism, a move that won him contacts with American anti-Muslim activists.

Robinson was arrested in late May outside a courthouse in Leeds, England, while making video recordings about a trial related to child molestation and jailed for 13 months for violating English law limiting publicity during criminal trials.

Brownback raised the jailing of Robinson during a meeting with Darroch that covered a range of “religious freedom issues”, the British official confirmed earlier this week.

Brownback told Darroch that if Britain did not treat Robinson more sympathetically, the Trump administration might be compelled to criticize Britain’s handling of the case, according to the two sources in contact with organizers of the planned pro-Robinson demonstration.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 13, 2018, 05:28:11 pm »
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:

Undermine May at every chance, recommend the hardest possible brexit, probably wants the UK to leave the WTO, says he supports may but that boris would be a better pm, insult ireland as a passing afterthought not realising were not part of the UK.

On the plus side i hope this runs counter to any future of a boris pm. The tories play an elitist game that trump ignored the rules of.

So far its been less offensive than I thought it would be.

Then completely deny the interview he did with The Sun where he said a trade deal would be almost impossible with the current Brexit plans, despite it being on tape, call it "Fake News", then turn around today and say that a trade deal is totes possible.

Also inadvertantely troll the Leave camp by making them insist that accepting US trade rules is an expression of sovereignty, but accepting EU trade rules is not.

Also also have the Secret Service buzz around London in V-22 Osprey's, creating a shit ton of noise.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:46:23 pm »
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:

Apple Talk / Re: Time To Spit It Out.
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:32:43 am »
TFA was meh.

TLJ was actually good, though fuck me if it took some time to get there.  The showdown between Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker was worth the price of admission.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: H.R. 6054: Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:28:10 am »
By naming it the "Unmasking Antifa" bill, this pure virtue signalling from legislators.

If they had wanted it to pass with bipartisan support, they'd have named it something else, then used it to go after antifa and black bloc groups.  This is just base pandering, perhaps with a mix of trialing "anti-Antifa" sentiment for the 2018 elections.

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