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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: May 05, 2019, 10:10:14 am »
We are sitting in rows and columns. Each column  performs an action at the same time (and those action correspond to the digits in the number 142857, but I won't get into that here). There's a movement where you look to the left and hold it for about 15 seconds. Then there's a movement where you look to the right and hold it for about 15 seconds. Because each column is doing these actions but staggered by one beat (ie, I'm looking to the left, while the column on my left is looking to the right), you end up making eye contact with the person on either side of you for a 15 second period.

This was an intense experience. During this exercise, I was in a heightened state of sensitivity. Very focused on all the tiny little emotions in the body and how they manifest in the muscles. On que, I turned my head to the left. I made eye contact with this guy next to me.

Eye contact is like an electrical conduit.

In 15 seconds, I saw him go through so much.. he's aware of me, then he's aware of my perception of him. I experience the same. The tiny movements of the muscles around his eyes... I could feel his deep seated anxiety, and his reaction to me seeing it, his attempt to overcome it, his failure to insulate himself. Likewise, I could feel my own fear of the Other, and how it manifested on my face.. and also how I was reacting to his seeing me. We were plugged into one another, directly. Nothing supernatural here, but I felt like we had a moment of true psychic contact. Electrical contact, soul to soul. I learned more about him in 15 seconds than I know about some of my close friends.

After the class, I went to shake his hand and say hi, but he jetted, quickly, preventing the opportunity. Probably on purpose. I'm reminded that there are reasons we build walls around ourselves. And there's a reason you don't want to be "conscious" all the time - it's not comfortable. If we were receptive all the time, we'd be crushed by it.

It was a powerful moment - shook me to the core.

about 15 years ago I was part of a group and we used to have very similar exercises, instead of rows and columns we seat in couples in front of one another looking into the eyes for as long as we can, the teacher just observed and separate the couples when the exercise fails, I personally couldn't follow for more than 2 minutes and a few students actually completed the exercise. We did that sort of movement for months one day a week. That's was a very good time of learning things. I wish I could find a school like this again.  :)

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: May 04, 2019, 06:28:45 pm »
Grab Your Safari Fez

It's April 2017. I've been reading about Gurdjieff for six months now. Fighting my way through his horrible book "Beezlebub's Tales to His Grandson". (this is harder to read than Godel Escher Bach... the book's impenetrability is probably one of the reasons the New Age movement never picked up Gurdjieff)

Much like when I discovered Discordianism in the late 90s, I asked myself "Are there really people out there doing this stuff? Or is this some dead joke I've found encased in amber?" Well the answer is yes, of course, it's 2017, people follow all sorts of shit. There are still theosophists for christsakes.

So WHO are the people still following this 1920s spiritual movement?  It turns out that there is a G.I.Gurdjieff foundation in NYC and it has like 300 or 400 members. I wanted to meet some.

So I reserved a seat for this event:

Maybe this will turn out to be a cult? I donít know. Letís find out.


Well, this Brazilian group are involved with practices of the fourth way. Check it out their website -> (sorry it's in portuguese). I know another place in Spain doing the same practices, but I can't remember the name.

Nice thread by the way.

look what I found by Antero Alli

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Electronic Engineering
« on: April 28, 2019, 04:50:00 pm »
Most of that applies to system design, as well. Iím gonna steal this and share it with my team.

That was exactly my thought when I read this thread.  :lol:

"In a paper published in 2003, Nick Bostrom argued that at least one of several propositions is likely to be true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a ďposthumanĒ stage, i.e., (fp≈0); (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof), i.e., (fI≈0); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation, i.e., (fsim≈1)."

In the 40's, Konrad Zuse already speculated that our universe is computable by a deterministic computer program. The probability of this hypothesis is greater than zero but less than 1.

Must have one or more important key point to dismantle or rise the entire idea about simulation hypothesis or it's another bored fucking wealth trying to create more chaos just for fun.

What is the point for the whole Whac-A-Mole?

Very nice thread, sorry I'm only 8 years later to the party.  :horrormirth:

Chapel Perilous is a few words is death and rebirth process (if you can find your way out), it's a metaphor, it happen in your thoughts only, just like Buddhism refers to the Bardo (a state of mind), in this case Bardo is well explained through the Tibetan book of the dead.
However Bardo refers to real physical death and Chapel Perilous not necessarily physical death.

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