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I wonder if his cigarettes started tasting funny for awhile before he was even hired.

Cis/Cishet is the stupidest shit ever. What the holy fuck? Do we really need a mainstream term for "not gay, identifies as biologically assigned?"

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COOKIE-HATE ITT

I love cookie. Cookie start with c.

An adequate navy isn't enough?

Awesome.

Fuck yeah, it's okay!

*flattered*

Hell hath no fury like a white cishet man with his feelings hurt.

Jesus fuck, really? Hell apparently also hath no sense of entitlement to bigotry like a privileged white college girl, either.

Way to be an astonishing hypocrite and undermine the whole position.

Thing is, this is one of those moments where a person (me) has to step back and say "this person does not represent the position".

I personally feel like your daughter won the thread by proxy.

I wasn't huffed when I was a noob. Not by you.

Challenged a bunch, trolled, but huffed?

I'm assuming that means you get high off of inhaling noobs. AMIRITE?

It is a filthy and immoral vice, to which I am ENSLAVED.   Lost weekends, the whole thing.

[INTERNAL DIALOGUE] "I gotta stop waking up in strange places like this; hungover and sore, a pile of used noobs all over..."

It's utopia and utopia hasn't worked yet so Roger's right but I believe that the formation of a society under the acceptance these basic values would go a long way towards achieving at least a little less of a chasm between levels of privilege.

And this goes for each and every one of us, even at the lower levels. A dude working as a surgeon for some multiple-six-figure salary believes himself (and WE tend to push the idea too!) entitled to a vastly (disproportionately) higher level of socioeconomic privilege simply because he went to school for six years, put in a lot of work and effort and does a job that's highly skilled, somewhat altruistic and very essential. But it ceases to be altruistic, the moment he demands a higher station and I daresay, it ceases to be of as much value to society when it becomes cost-prohibitive to a good portion of society and further widens the chasms between us.

Um, that's not privilege, that's earned.

Now, how he GOT into college or how he PAID for it may be related to privilege, but a medical doctorate is not by anyone's standard "privilege", as privilege is something that happens to you, and an MD is something you attain.

Okay, I'm misunderstanding something. Does he not earn himself a higher level of privilege that stays with him perpetually thereafter? Or is privilege limited to that inherent to factors he can not change like birth status and age?

It's utopia and utopia hasn't worked yet so Roger's right but I believe that the formation of a society under the acceptance these basic values would go a long way towards achieving at least a little less of a chasm between levels of privilege.

And this goes for each and every one of us, even at the lower levels. A dude working as a surgeon for some multiple-six-figure salary believes himself (and WE tend to push the idea too!) entitled to a vastly (disproportionately) higher level of socioeconomic privilege simply because he went to school for six years, put in a lot of work and effort and does a job that's highly skilled, somewhat altruistic and very essential. But it ceases to be altruistic, the moment he demands a higher station and I daresay, it ceases to be of as much value to society when it becomes cost-prohibitive to a good portion of society and further widens the chasms between us.

I agree with profit-as-a-motivator and I believe that his hard work and altruism should be rewarded with a bit more in the way of buying power and societal benefits but in a more organic way. He must negotiate the costs and value of his services with the people who need to purchase them and they must be reasonable. This is preservation of liberty that is meaningful. He's free to sell his services in a way that earns him a higher level of comfort but not an inordinate amount of power.

I also believe that his investment costs (IE: his education) should be far lower. It is of benefit to us all to ensure we make becoming a doctor a more accessible venture to people who want to do that. Just this one thing will reduce the exclusive nature (and sense of entitlement) of his little club.

But the biggest thing we need to address is the getting people to accept that anyone who toils in labor for someone for 40 hours a week is entitled to a living. Period. If you like the cheeseburgers enough to eat them and facilitate someone flipping them then the person flipping them is of value enough to spend his days making your burger and therefore, deserves a living wage. If you can't afford $10 for a cheeseburger, the company will eventually face the need to either lower their prices and accept a more realistic profit margin, or go out of business but we will not accept their paying Paul the burger-flipper a pittance, dumping their waste into the groundwater, evade paying taxes and continuing to turn any sort of profit. Attempts to circumvent the rules results in sanctions and disbandment so there's a lot of motivation there between the stockholders and the employees to ensure the rules are followed. You can sell or eat anything you want but you can't fuck people over to do it.

This is trickle-UP economics.

What we have now is a perception of liberty that rewards entities for what they can "get away with" and then protects them from having anyone address the issue when it becomes a problem. Not only are they entitled to keep the spoils, but also are they allowed to establish the perpetuation of their abuses as entitlements under the flag of "Liberty." "What I'm doing is oppressive but you can't stop me because that would be oppression!"

A flexible system that puts the power back into the hands of the people, represented by union leaders instead of aristocratic representatives over whom they have little control, under the direction of use of common sense but with adherence to a central code of basic human rights and liberties forces people to stop choosing their favorite racehorse, locking themselves down and rooting for that motherfucker even after it's thrown the rider and is trampling everyone in the stands.

What is that new thing? I'm all ears. If it makes me small-minded or something that I can't think of it, I'm willing to accept that but I want to know.

We need a system where:
1. Resources belong to everyone and can not be hoarded or owned past a person's lifetime - no more winning the uterine lottery
2. Corporations are permitted to do business by The People and can be disbanded at-will if they fuck shit up and/or fail to toe-the-line.
3. Business is truly competitive and fosters innovation over stupid shit like market share.
4. Banks BELONG to the people.
5. Medicine is relatively non-profit while good practitioners and innovators are rewarded moderately.
6. Everyone gladly pays taxes for shit like education, food cleanliness, waste management, social programs and defense programs that don't encourage dumbshits to go around raping other countries. DEfense, not Offense.
7. Unions are encouraged and lauded but kept in-check and made to adhere to human rights standards.
8. Government is truly representative and representatives are Public Servants, not career-hustlers and shills. Term limits and "Vote of no-confidence" come readily to mind.
9. There exists a built-in plan to handle scientific and technological advances which embraces its benefits in a way which favors popular application instead of the top-down model that's been developing.
10. People at the smallest unit are at liberty to do and say and eat and fuck and write whatever/whoever the fuck they want without hurting anyone until and unless it becomes a problem or an essential need is identified that lies in contradiction.
11. Socialized resources are encouraged and enjoyed and seen as wise: If 20, 000 people each have one book, they each have a book. If we pool them, WE have a library.

There's some other stuff but that's where I'm at.

I wasn't huffed when I was a noob. Not by you.

Challenged a bunch, trolled, but huffed?

I'm assuming that means you get high off of inhaling noobs. AMIRITE?

It has and it hasn't. If you remove all the brown people we fucked-over from the equation, you could say it worked here for a little while...but not really.

The truth is, it's never been successfully pulled off but I can't stop trying because the alternative is to either accept the shit they put in front of us or live in a constant state of either war, or someone getting fucked as we vacillate wildly between alternating groups revolting and taking power then oppressing and murdering those who oppressed them.

That's why I usually just say "Left-leaning Libertarian" to keep people from giving me an ice-cream headache from all the frozen stupids they throw at my head.

I thought Cainad vouched for this guy.

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