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Apple Talk / "If you could pass the guacamole, that would be AWESOME!"
« on: April 04, 2011, 04:47:59 pm »
This is a great RSA talk by Steven Pinker on Language as A Window Into Human Nature. The sketch style animation is a very nice touch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJTrU

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Apple Talk / "Primate Behavior"
« on: April 02, 2011, 03:28:00 pm »
Baboons are among the more aggressive species of primates. Much like humans, chimps and others, they tend to have a strong hierarchy where the top male picks on the lower males, which in turn pick on lower males, etc etc until you get to the poor shitheels at the bottom that have no one else to pick on, occasionally these bottom males try to make a little alliance and get back at the alphas, but this usually fails and results in beatings. Robert Sapolsky studied a Baboon group called the 'Forest Troupe' for many years and saw this sort of basic second circuit behavior in action. In fact, after years of studying the primate he said that he didn't like them because they were so cruel and violent. Just like humans.

However, the Forest Troupe underwent a strange transformation. They began eating out of a garbage dump near a hotel and the top dogs always ate first. Unfortunately for them, eating first meant that they ate contaminated food, leaving none for those poor schmucks on the bottom rungs. The end result was that the most aggressive, most violent, most "top dog" baboons died. This changed the dynamic of the troupe. Now there were more females and not many males... and the males that were left were imprinted (to use a learyism) with a weak second circuit.

Sapolsky stopped studying them for a number of years. When he returned, the troupe was extremely different. There was much less violence, much more grooming between all of the primates. Blood tests showed drastic decreases in stress indicators. Adult males still occasionally fought, but not as violently, and often immediately groomed each other after. Now here is the really interesting part... these males were NOT the survivors of the poison food event... these were 'next generation' baboons. These were males that had come to the troupe from other groups (young males leave their troupe and find a new one). Not only had the overall behavior of the troupe changed, but the selection of new males had changed as well. Violent 'normal' males were chased off, males that were accepted tended to be these more cooperative males. Compared to other troupes in the area (as a control) this group was extremely different.

If we are "hard wired to be monkeys", then surely so are baboons. Yet if a tribe of baboons can change in such a fundamental way, can it be said that we are truly "hardwired to be monkeys"? Is it possible that alpha behavior, shit flinging, fighting etc, etc... are learned behaviors? If they are learned behaviors, can they be changed? Leary and Bob Wilson thought so... the study of the Forest Troupe seems to indicate that there is something other than just hardwiring going on.

Could this inform us as to why humans became less violent and more social in the distant past? Could it indicate that we have a choice to be or not to be shit flinging monkeys?

I don't know, but I found it a very interesting story.

http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0020124

Also one of Sapolsky's talks (not directly related, but an awesome talk): http://www.ted.com/talks/robert_sapolsky_the_uniqueness_of_humans.html



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Apple Talk / Annnnnd..... I'm outta here!
« on: March 22, 2011, 03:48:14 pm »
No I'm not flouncing ;-)

I am headed out to Turkey in about 5 hours. I'll be gone for a week, no idea about internet access. Don't asplode the whole internets while I'm gone!

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Literate Chaotic / Here and Now, Boys
« on: March 17, 2011, 06:10:42 pm »
Something I've been poking at, based on a couple lines from the book "Island" by Aldus Huxley its still a little rough and I'm looking for feedback :)

Here and Now, Boys

"Attention, Attention"
a thousand birds are calling
but life is distracting
and the monkeys are appalling.
"Attention, Attention"
the birds sing out again
but no one pays attention
cause they're watching CNN.

"Attention, Attention"
the monkeys all look up
They see Earthquakes,
Tsunamis
Two Girls and a Cup.
Contraptions of Distractions
in the Information Age
sitting in the audience
while the world's all a stage

Information at our fingertips
Lies dripping like honey
from a senator's lips
Oh! Gotta see if the stock market dips.
On the TV, the web and the phone.

All together, we're living all alone

"Attention, Attention"
but no one ever pays
Attention lost its job
in the downsizing craze.
We've shipped it overseas
Embedded with marines
and 'Attention' to the war
is in 30 second scenes.

"Attention, Attention"
somebody hit a nerve
and everyone is screaming
as they get what they deserve
the politicians playing
at their classic two-man con
and no one paid attention
till everything was gone.

Pay attention to the life that's your own
or all together, we'll be living all alone




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Apple Talk / A question... seperated from currently acidic threads
« on: January 26, 2011, 10:31:11 pm »
So without pointing fingers (cause there are way too many of us that fit every one of these roles) I have a question:

If you don't want the thread to be full of responses that are us fighting with each other... why do people post responses that are us fighting with each other?

Why not just continue the conversation? In all honesty this is one of the PD tendencies that I have never understood.

Example 1:
OP: Interesting Post
User 1: Discuss
User2: Discuss
DP: Fnord
User1: Discus... OMGZ there is FNORD!

User 2: Dis... DAMN YOU FNORD

DP: err, FNORD!

OP/User1/User2: MOTHERFUCKINGSONOFABITCH WHY THE HELL DO I EVEN TRY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION HERE!!!!

EOT


(note that Fnord may or may not be a pinealism, in this case DP simply stands for the 'distraction' post)

I mean, the thread could go:

OP: Interesting Post

User1: Discuss
User2: Discuss
DP: Fnord
User1: Discuss
User3: Discuss
DP: FNORD!
User2: Discuss
User4: Discuss
OP: Discuss
Fnord?
User1: Discuss
User2: Discuss
DP: f...fnord...  :cry:
User3: Discuss
User6: Discuss
User7: Discuss
User1: Discuss
User8: Discuss
DP: *sneaks away and licks their wounds*
User6: Discuss
User2: Discuss
User1: Discuss
User4: Discuss
User9: Discuss


EOT

Why do many of us tend toward the first example, rather than the second? i mean, if we "Think for Ourselves", if we 'control our destiny', make our own BiP, etc etc ... why do we allow a distraction post to derail conversations? Is it a function of the Internet?
Like This:

Or is it just an automated monkey response?
Like this:

Or like TGRR mentioned in another thread... is it our egos? Are we upset because we think a thread is important and someone else appears to be belittling it?

IN the sermon on ethics and love, Eris told Mal-2 that if people didn't like it [war], they should just stop.

Why can't we do that? Can we? Can anyone? Or is it simply the way it is? Are we damned to act in ways that we don't like, promoting behaviors that we don't enjoy?

I don't know... but I think its an interesting question.

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http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html

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WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. EST on Thursday, Dec. 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe.

The news conference will be held at the NASA Headquarters auditorium at 300 E St. SW, in Washington. It will be broadcast live on NASA Television and streamed on the agency's website at http://www.nasa.gov.


Now that's a teaser...

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Apple Talk / The Five Stoned Men: My friend reads The Illuminatus Trilogy
« on: September 30, 2010, 05:07:10 pm »
So a friend of mine decided to read The Trilogy. Poor sod. ;-) He called last night and asked for my thoughts on the story of the Five Stoned Men:

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Five stoned men were in a courtyard when an elephant entered.
The first man was stoned on sleep, and he saw not the elephant but dreamed instead of things unreal to those awake.
The second man was stoned on nicotine, caffeine, DDT, carbohydrate excess, protein deficiency, and the other chemicals in the diet which the Illuminati have enforced upon the half-awake to keep them from fully waking. "Hey," he said, "there's a big, smelly beast in our courtyard."
The third stoned man was on grass, and he said, "No, dads, that's the Ghostly Old Party in its true nature, the Dark Nix on the Soul," and he giggled in a silly way.
The fourth stoned man was tripping on peyote, and he said, "You see not the mystery, for the elephant is a poem written in tons instead of words," and his eyes danced.
The fifth stoned man was on acid, and he said nothing, merely worshiping the elephant in silence as the Father of Buddha.
And then the Hierophant entered and drove a nail of mystery into all their hearts, saying, "You are all elephants!"
Nobody understood him.

I asked him what his thoughts were on it and figured I'd open it up here as well.

So thoughts?

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Apple Talk / The Secret
« on: August 18, 2010, 09:16:49 pm »
The whole of the Law,
The full of the Rede
The mantra of Truth
In word and in deed

Not the Left or Right Hand
Not the Black or the White
Throw all of that out
As neither are right

Suck all of life in
Till you can hold no more
And open your eyes
to see what life’s for

The loftiest goal
The Zen from on high
“Do Me As Thou Wilt”
And thus so Will I.


 :lulz:

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Apple Talk / Witch drags Cop...
« on: August 04, 2010, 03:48:56 pm »
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/witch-eilish-de-avalon-drags-cop-200m-at-high-speed-after-claiming-earth-laws-dont-apply/story-e6frf7kx-1225897391236

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"When asked to produce her driver's licence, De Avalon replied that she did not have one," Sen-Constable Lamb said.

"When asked why not, she said, 'I'm a being from another world and don't require one.' When asked to state her name and address De Avalon replied, 'I have a universal name that is not recognised here'."

Sen-Constable Lamb said that when asked for ID, De Avalon said, "Your laws and penalties don't apply to me. I'm not accepting them, I'm sorry, I must go, thank you.

"De Avalon began to wind her window up and Sen-Const Logan reached through in an attempt to remove the keys from her ignition. She continued to wind the window up pinning the officer's right arm to the door frame.

"She then drove off dragging him along with her."

The policeman suffered serious injuries to his right arm, shoulder and chest and is expected to undergo further surgery.


 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Universal names don't fit on Driver's Licenses....

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Principia Discussion / On the vision granted to me last night....
« on: June 04, 2010, 04:24:12 pm »
Some say Eris is a bitch,
"In her bosom lies a knife."
And they talk about that wedding
pointing to the world's Strife.
Some say Eris is a Hippie
tripping lightly through the Void
Stoned out of her Gourd
and listening to Pink Floyd.

Some say she's 'who Done it All'
Others say she's just some words
Some worship her,
some don't
Some can only see the fnords.

Yet,
I wonder,
sometimes...
thinking...
in the dark and voidlike night.
Are any of these really her?
Are any of these right?
Is she the Cosmic Bitch,
or is she the Cosmic Clown?
Does she smile on the world,
or does she burn it down?

Last night in NyQuil slumber,
she came to me in dreams
and told me
"Silly Squirrel, It's never as it seems.
Sometimes I can be bitchy,
sometimes I'm cool as ice.
Sometimes I can be awesome,
once I was even nice.

I'm all of these and none of these
and things you've not yet thought...
And sometimes I get off starting wars
and sometimes I'm stoned on Pot.
Dear Bob and Mal and Omar were children just the same,
as the Gipper, George and Tony Blair and even old Hussein.
Cause in the end, my darling Squirrel,
its not me that causes Strife,
or Chaos,
Discord,
Confusion...
that is just human life.
And every Childe of my womb
from birthing room
to stinking tomb
will do just as they wish to do,
and if they like it, what's that to you?"

And then I saw a parting Veil,
but as I stepped ever nearer
I saw myself on the other side
for it was just a mirror.
And She, my Goddess Eris
said, "Now, Squirrel do you see?"
She touched the surface and passed through.

"This is really me."

- Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord

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Techmology and Scientism / The Race Test
« on: May 18, 2010, 08:36:21 pm »
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/18/doll.study.parents/index.html?hpt=Sbin

First, I have no trouble with the concept that racism is alive and well in the US.

Second, this seems like a horrible test to judge racism in the US.

There is a series of cartoon kids, ranging from light skinned to dark skinned. Then the test givers ask questions like "Who is the smart child?" "Who is the bad child?" or "Point to the mean child." They are happily touting these amazing results because kids often picked the white kid as good and the dark kid as bad.

However, these are five year olds... and the questions are all trick questions. At least it seems that way to me. I don't know of any five year olds that would give the correct answer: "There isn't enough information to determine good or bad or smart or dumb... what the hell kind of test are you running here, ya schmuck?!"

Since the kids likely don't realize that its a trick, they're gonna give a wrong answer, no matter what answer they try to give. IF the only available data is skin color, and the child believes that they must give an answer (and that the answer is available based on 'differences' in the pictures)... why is it surprising that they identified positively with the far left, light colored picture rather than the far right dark colored picture?

I am confused by CNN SCIENCE!!!!

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Techmology and Scientism / QUANTUMZ?! IN MY NEWTONIAN PHYSICS???
« on: March 22, 2010, 05:08:10 pm »
So physicists at UCSB have created a 'large' system, ie something visible to the human eye and successfully produced results that are congruent with the laws of quantum mechanics.

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The researchers demonstrated that, once cooled, the mechanical resonator followed the laws of quantum mechanics. They were able to create a single phonon, the quantum of mechanical vibration, which is the smallest unit of vibrational energy, and watch as this quantum of energy exchanged between the mechanical resonator and the qubit. While exchanging this energy, the qubit and resonator become "quantum entangled," such that measuring the qubit forces the mechanical resonator to "choose" the vibrational state in which it should remain.

In a related experiment, they placed the mechanical resonator in a quantum superposition, a state in which it simultaneously had zero and one quantum of excitation. This is the energetic equivalent of an object being in two places at the same time. The researchers showed that the resonator again behaved as expected by quantum theory.

We're still talking about something the size of a human hair... but after this many physicists now question if there is actually an 'upper limit' to the physical size of quantum entanglement or waveforms.

Here's the press release: http://www.ia.ucsb.edu/pa/display.aspx?pkey=2200
Here's the NPR story: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124820013


Still nothing on how it explains MAGJICKS, but it does provide some evidence that we may understand less about physics than we thought.

 :fnord:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / In Awe of Con-Fusion
« on: February 22, 2010, 04:51:14 pm »
"When these two metals are combined, we say that they are 'con-fused'." - Eliza, "The Confusion" (The Baroque Cycle)

What does it mean to be confused? Most often we likely consider it to mean that someone is bewildered or dealing with conflicting information that brings about a negative state of mind. However, this sort of confusion is only one aspect to the word. Confusion, in fact, may well be useful, beneficial and even desirable... in some sense.

In cryptography we use the term confusion to describe an important operation of a secure cipher. Confusion is the relationship between the encryption 'key' and the 'ciphertext' (the encrypted message). Particularly, good cryptography requires strong Confusion... or a strong, complex relationship between these two elements of the cipher. In fact, the more complex the relationship, the better the cipher. We 'confuse' the key and the data, so that the entire key is used to encrypt every part of the message AND that specific parts of the key are used on specific parts of the message as well. The goal is to create non-uniformity throughout the ciphertext, so that if an attacker has several samples of 'plaintext' they still cannot guess the correct key that was used. In a properly 'confused' algorithm changing one bit in the key, or changing one bit in the plaintext should result in a completely different output. Thus we can say that online banking, credit cards, debit cards, health records, sensitive business documents and secret cabal discussions are all secure, because of Confusion.

Confusion may also make things stronger. If we take metal along with other compounds and liquefy them with heat, we can con-fuse them together to create a metal alloy. If this is done correctly, the compounds become completely intermingled AND if the correct compounds are used, the resulting metal may be far more valuable than the original metals. For example, we may place Iron Ore, Charcoal (carbon) and glass (sillica) into a crucible, seal it and heat it in a furnace. This process takes three useful elements and transforms them into the 'wootz steel', a harder, better steel that holds its edge and exhibits a toughness beyond most other steel alloys of its time. "Damascus Steel" is still a sought after product today... the product of 'confusion'.

Confusion often gets a bum rap, as does Chaos, Discord, Bureaucracy and Aftermath. Yet, these are not always, or necessarily negative things. Chaos can be creative. Discord can force confrontation and resolution. Without Bureaucracy the Internet, hospitals, government, your place of employment and most of reality as we know it couldn't exist. But, Confusion, marvelous, wondrous, alchemical Con-Fusion can take many disparate things and combine them into something new, something better, something more valuable than the sum of its parts.

How better to describe the ideas, debates, metaphors and models discussed by Discordians, than a 'con-fusion' of ideas. The new concepts that come out of our discussions are products of multiple sources; the sciences from those of us who have studied science, the philosophies from those who have studied that. Political science, psychology, personal experiences and absurdity all placed in the crucible of PD.com, heated, combined, forged and Con-Fused into O:MF's, Rants, GASMS, parables and whatever else happens to come out of the fire.

So I exhort all Discordians; Steal ideas, steal metaphors, steal it all and Con-fuse it together, because that is truly the way to Think For Yourself, Schmuck!


Hail Eris, All Hail Discordia!

Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
Chatterer of the Words of Eris
Muncher of the ChaoAcorn
POEE of the Great Googlie Mooglie Cabal

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Discordian Recipes / What we're cooking this weekend....
« on: January 18, 2010, 04:49:04 pm »
So, there is a competition in our local SCA barony for best period dish, another for best period 'subtlety' (which is the art of making food that looks like something it is not). Sjaantze and I have decided to cook a Cockentrice aka Cockatrice aka Cockengris.

Here are three period recipes for this lovely piece of culinary art:
1:
Harleian MS.279 .xxviij. Cokyntryce. - Take a Capon, & skald hym, & draw hem clene, & smyte hem a-to in the waste ouerthwart; take a Pigge, & skald hym, & draw hym in the same maner, & smyte hem also in the waste; take a nedyl & a threde, & sewe the fore partye of the Capoun to the After parti of the Pigge; & the fore partye of the Pigge, to the hynder party of the Capoun, & than stuffe hem as thou stuffyst a Pigge; putte hem on a spete, and Roste hym: & whan he is y-now, dore hem with yolkys of Eyroun, & pouder Gyngere & Safroun, thenne wyth the Ius of Percely with-owte; & than serue it forth for a ryal mete.

2:
Douce MS. 55 Cockentrice. Capitulum lxiiij. - Scalde a capon clene, & smyte hem in-to the wast oueretwarde, and scaude a pygge, and draw hym, & smyte hym in the same maner; and then sewe the forthyr parte of the capon and the hyndyr parte of the pigge to-gederys, and the forther parte of the pygge and the hyndyr parte of the capon to-gedyr; then draw the whyte & the yolkes of eyren, and cast ther-to, and svette of a schepe, and saffron, & salt, and pouudre of gyngeuere, and grated bread; and melle all to-gedre with thyn honde, and putt it in the cockentrice, and putt it on a spite, and roste hem; and endore hem with yolkes of eyren, and pouudre of gyngeuere, and saffron, and ioissh of persely or malves, and draw hem, and endore hem all abowte in euery perty of hym.

3:
Forme of Cury 183 Cokagrys. Take and make the self fars, but do therto pynes & sugur. Take an hold rostr cok; pulle hym & hylde hym al togyder saue the legges. Take a pigg and hilde hym fro the myddes dounward; fylle him ful of the fars, & sowe hym fast togeder. Do hym in a panne & seeth hym wel, and whan thei bene isode: do hem on a spyt & rost it wele. Colour it with yolkes of ayren and safroun. Lay theron foyles of gold and siluer, and serue hit forth.

So if you had trouble following that, its the front half of a suckling pig, attached to the back half of a capon (castrated rooster) and made to appear as a mythical creature.

A picture from the Gode Cookery site:




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Techmology and Scientism / If you're running Microsoft Windoze
« on: January 18, 2010, 04:04:43 pm »
Per the recent vulnerability announcement from Microsoft (here's some symptoms to help id it if you have a problem).

Evidence of Remote Code Execution (the specific vulnerability called out in the advisory):

·         Account lockout policies are being tripped.

·         Automatic Updates, Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS), Windows Defender, and Error Reporting Services are disabled.

·         Domain controllers respond slowly to client requests.

·         The network is congested.

·         Various security-related Web sites cannot be accessed.

·         Various security-related tools will not run.

·         In some cases, you may see svchost.exe crashes in module netapi32.dll.  This will only occur if the attack fails, however.



Not a joke or Snopes, this is just your run of the mill new virus bullshit. Thought it might be useful for the IT geeks among us.

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