i have read Marx and it only works on paper (the Russians and every one else who has tried it got it wrong?)i have watched Marx "groucho" and prefer it over "Karl" i only brought it up because a Marxist is saying the bip move the system though self change and monkeywrenching it from within doesn't work (self change works the second part may or may not) if the prison bars of the commenter (self included) are not relevant to there perspective on the subject then please ignore

