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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 16, 2019, 05:19:53 am »
No, not at all. Iím saying put aside litmus tests, get the orange buffoon out of office. If he gets another 4 years, shitís gonna get worse.

You're acting like Trump is the cause, and not the symptom.

If, somehow, a Centrist Dem boots Trump, you think the GOP is gonna say, "ok, your turn"?

No, they'll go on a vicious attack, and the Centrist will compromise, which is another way of saying, "well, I guess some genocide is all right."

A Leftist president will fight like hell and give it right back to them.

Well, yes.  The root cause of failure here is "Americans".

That does seem to be the common theme

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: July 15, 2019, 01:57:17 pm »
On the last leg of my latest trip, headed out to Boston. I had an almost totally uneventful journey, except for the damages of regular travel and a 12 hour layover in Detroit. (Our bus was late coming in, we missed the connection, and we had to wait for the next one.)

A friend is getting me a hotel room when I arrive, and from there begins the wonderful task of finding housing and income. Itís going to be some effort, but if I have to be homeless anywhere, Bostonís where itís at I think.

Oof. Well, welcome to Boston when you get here

I arrived early yesterday and spent the day half-awake with QGP (briefly) and her husband (mostly). My feet are angry at me. Maybe if youíve got some free time I could say hi, Iím going to have a lot of empty time today and probably be traveling anyway.

I might have a bit of time tomorrow--what part of Boston are you around?

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: July 15, 2019, 12:46:25 pm »
On the last leg of my latest trip, headed out to Boston. I had an almost totally uneventful journey, except for the damages of regular travel and a 12 hour layover in Detroit. (Our bus was late coming in, we missed the connection, and we had to wait for the next one.)

A friend is getting me a hotel room when I arrive, and from there begins the wonderful task of finding housing and income. Itís going to be some effort, but if I have to be homeless anywhere, Bostonís where itís at I think.

Oof. Well, welcome to Boston when you get here

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 15, 2019, 05:35:03 am »

I've heard commented that AOC has some really anti-war stuff going on, and thats of the things that totally disqualifies you from presidential leadership... you can succeed as a major or governor... but i think shes peaked, shes not even gonna get to be a senator, and much less president.

Shes too soft and weak, shell either never make it nor be allowed to.

She IS a senator.

She's in the House, not the Senate. So while she is a Congressthing, she's not a Senator.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 14, 2019, 06:32:58 pm »

I've heard commented that AOC has some really anti-war stuff going on, and thats of the things that totally disqualifies you from presidential leadership... you can succeed as a major or governor... but i think shes peaked, shes not even gonna get to be a senator, and much less president.

Shes too soft and weak, shell either never make it nor be allowed to.

Who said anything about her running for president?

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 14, 2019, 06:27:29 pm »
Even if I found the need to have a gun, I wouldn't be enthusiastic about it. I'd be bummed out that I lived in a shitty society that necessitated having a gun.

Big fucking mood

Also why the fuck are yall entertaining drugs are bad mkay shitty suit mcshutup and go back to your shitty maine with your shit ass smaller than my desert podunk hometown capital?

 :lulz:

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 14, 2019, 06:25:35 pm »
ACA was a center-left policy.

What's left wing about forcing people to buy insurance from private companies?

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The Dune series goes downhill pretty quickly after God Emperor, IMO.

I mean, it goes Downhill after Dune. Children was pretty good because it was Dune-like

It goes downhill after the copyright notice in Dune.

It is the second worst science fiction ever written, and Frank Herbert's grave should be desecrated.

 :lulz:

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:42:31 am »
Even if I found the need to have a gun, I wouldn't be enthusiastic about it. I'd be bummed out that I lived in a shitty society that necessitated having a gun.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:39:39 am »
Extremely wrong, anti-gun leftists are the norm these days. Tankies arenít popular lately, what with all that latent anti-Semitism lurking in modern Stalinism. Iím one of the anti-gun leftists out there, and Iím actually a firearms enthusiast.

I donít have the focus right now to give you a rundown of the theorizing behind it, but itís a utopian communist idea in terms of where it comes from. Anarchists like their guns a lot, and other communists tend to either accept them as necessary or outright demand arming everyone in the world.

"Sometimes up to and including tanks" should not be construed as meaning that all leftists are Stalinists. If that's what you think I mean, then I can understand how you can reply with the seemingly paradoxical statement that you're an anti-gun leftist gun enthusiast.

I'm not a gun enthusiast. I don't have a gun. I've never found the need for one. It's kinda like how I'm not a car enthusiast because I generally rely on public transportation.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:35:41 am »
Iím not an idiot. Of course we get Baby Benito out of office first, at any costs. And of course purity testing isnít going to fucking help there.

That was exactly my point.

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But that doesnít mean you shouldnít push further left where things are less crucial, even if youíll lose. Fact: thatís how the GOP became the New American Nazi Party, they kept pushing right. A certain, large, fraction of the base will vote GOP even if the candidate admitted to eating babies. They exert influence on their friends. And of course thereís no viable third party options at all.

Sure, the problem is that the AOC plank doesn't seem to understand this. They want to swing for the fences on everything.

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Also, letís remember that ďcenter leftĒ in American politics is ďsolid rightĒ everywhere else. There is no balance, just a freight train choo-chooing toward the abyss. The ďleftĒ is dead weight the train is dragging along, not an actual counter-force. And so long as we push for moderation and centrist policies, that will remain the case.

It's not about pushing for moderation (even though I am a moderate myself), it's about pragmatism. I mean, shit, while I'm to the right of many D's on a lot of things, I'm way to the left of them on guns.  If AOC came out tomorrow to propose a gun ban and repealing the 2nd amendment, I'd be right there supporting her!

Gun bans aren't left, they're liberal centrism. Leftists want an armed proletariat. Sometimes up to and including tanks.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:32:54 am »

Im sure that shuffling around chairs on the Titanic is the solution, you guys just need to do it faster  :)

But seriously, moderates are such cancer on your democracy, all while the right is tailoring their brownshirts.

I can't agree more

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 13, 2019, 04:32:22 am »
At the same time, Congress is a numbers game. Which I think, like her or don't like her, is ultimately where Pelosi is coming from.  The Dems in the House can do shit if they are in the minority. With a majority, they may not be able to do what the liberal wing of the party wants done, but they can do more than zero. 

I think that is where the rub is.  Pelosi and establishment want to move the ball to see if they can smash their way to a first down, AOC et al want to get a touch down on first possession. 

Of course the reality is with an R Senate and White House, it's not like there's too much the D's can accomplish, but whatever possibilities there might be, it certainly isn't going to be with a red-meat liberal initiative.

So in other words, we have to accept a moderate centrist agenda to achieve the agenda we need a buck short and a day late.

Yes, because like it or not, the American electorate is, at best, center-left.  AOC will get re-elected in her District all day long.  Meanwhile, in Maine's northern district, we have center-Left Jared Golden.  Now, he's not a Pelosi fan, he voted against her speakership in fact, but overall, much more moderate than AOC.  You will never, get someone like AOC elected in that district.  Golden won his election by miniscule numbers, he was lucky.  It's a center-right district. 

That's what you have to contend with.  To have more progressive/liberals, you have to have massive changes in the electorates in those regions, or catch lightning in a bottle and nominate someone who can win over right-leaning districts with personality to distract from their policy positions.  You might get lucky and do that in a few districts, but not on a scale to significantly tip the House to the progressive left. 

So given that reality, those numbers, is it best to get something or nothing?  That's where Pelosi is coming from.  And she's right.  Because the math is the math.

Or, and hear me out, we can stop thinking of politics in terms of stopping the other side and actually vote on the basis of being an informed electorate. Yeah, I know, but the people who sit out the vote are the ones thinking like this.

That's the ideal of course, and should absolutely be a goal to strive for.  But that's not going to happen between now and election day.  You and I both know that.  Trump needs to go.  Like it or not, that's not happening via the AOC wing, that's going to happen via Pelosi & Biden (or Harris).

I can't disagree more.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Pelosi vs AOC feud
« on: July 12, 2019, 08:34:34 pm »
At the same time, Congress is a numbers game. Which I think, like her or don't like her, is ultimately where Pelosi is coming from.  The Dems in the House can do shit if they are in the minority. With a majority, they may not be able to do what the liberal wing of the party wants done, but they can do more than zero. 

I think that is where the rub is.  Pelosi and establishment want to move the ball to see if they can smash their way to a first down, AOC et al want to get a touch down on first possession. 

Of course the reality is with an R Senate and White House, it's not like there's too much the D's can accomplish, but whatever possibilities there might be, it certainly isn't going to be with a red-meat liberal initiative.

So in other words, we have to accept a moderate centrist agenda to achieve the agenda we need a buck short and a day late.

Yes, because like it or not, the American electorate is, at best, center-left.  AOC will get re-elected in her District all day long.  Meanwhile, in Maine's northern district, we have center-Left Jared Golden.  Now, he's not a Pelosi fan, he voted against her speakership in fact, but overall, much more moderate than AOC.  You will never, get someone like AOC elected in that district.  Golden won his election by miniscule numbers, he was lucky.  It's a center-right district. 

That's what you have to contend with.  To have more progressive/liberals, you have to have massive changes in the electorates in those regions, or catch lightning in a bottle and nominate someone who can win over right-leaning districts with personality to distract from their policy positions.  You might get lucky and do that in a few districts, but not on a scale to significantly tip the House to the progressive left. 

So given that reality, those numbers, is it best to get something or nothing?  That's where Pelosi is coming from.  And she's right.  Because the math is the math.

Or, and hear me out, we can stop thinking of politics in terms of stopping the other side and actually vote on the basis of being an informed electorate. Yeah, I know, but the people who sit out the vote are the ones thinking like this.

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Mm, fair. Iíd say it had the highest high points, at least. When God Emperor was on, it was rock solid through and through. The scene with the advisor and the ghola in the catacombs remains lodged in my mindís eye, I doubt Iíll ever forget it.

It was a solid novel, but parts of it were definitely... It was like a solid TNG episode in writing but also pacing

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