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Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
« on: February 28, 2017, 10:37:15 pm »
I hear Arizona is going to start taking people's houses away if they plan a protest.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: February 05, 2017, 04:57:38 am »
I have a real job for the first time in a very long time.  it involves getting up very early in the morning and helping people build houses.  i am enjoying it far more than I would have predicted.

Unfortunately the weekly world news, which was the best of them, seems to have gone out of business.

Apple Talk / Re: Virtue Signalling
« on: January 05, 2017, 09:55:01 pm »
The article in the guardian is not using virtue signalling in the same way that Roger uses it in the first post.  Roger is defining it as making statements to identify with a group wheras the guardian uses it as making statements to identify as good or virtuous.  Roger's definition is more specific and more useful.

The Adam smith article does the same thing.

"people are increasingly disaffected with their governments — and more willing to support authoritarian leaders."

What a weird combination.  "Our governments are shit, let's try electing people that want to abuse their power!"

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: December 29, 2016, 10:33:28 pm »
I am binge watching Preacher.  It's as good as I expected it to be. 


To which I responded with two links outlining Love Lives Here's support of an ordinance that would ban Richard Spencer from owning an office in Whitefish. Richard Spencers mother lives in his former home which is still listed as one of Richards offices from when he lived there. Now even if this doesnt pass, what it has done is brought a lot of negative publicity and hate down on Richard Spencers mother, who hasnt done anything besides giving birth to Richard Spencer and him occasionally visiting.

According to your source she attending meetings of a white supremacist organization.  That's not nothing.

RPG Ghetto / Re: My latest campaign
« on: December 12, 2016, 05:14:46 am »
Thanks Joe.  I partly post these because there is a lot of cannabis consumption involved in play and I like to remember what is going on, but knowing i am entertaining someone also helps make me feel better about the whole endeavor.

RPG Ghetto / Re: My latest campaign
« on: December 11, 2016, 11:20:46 pm »
Fynn gave the demonic cigar to Olaf, who had a stronger will than him and thus could hopefully resist the demonic taint the cigar might offer more effectively.  Olaf used it to heal Queequeeg and also tested out it's powers by compelling Fynn to pee on queequeeg.  He managed to convince the approaching longboats from Captain Blood's ship to wait until he had a chance to confer with their captain.  Arriving at Captain Blood's ship the party surrendered their weapons and engaged in some gambling, which went poorly for them.  Olaf attempted to adjust the results and ended up with the eyes of a goat or cat, rather than the normal human eyes he had started with.  Captain Blood returned and Olaf convinced him to trade the cigar for his ship full of whale oil, however he also acquired scales for skin along the way.  Fynn and Nicholas did some sneaking about and Nicholas got his cutlass back as Fynn attempted to drop a trap on Captain blood from the rigging above.  The trap missed and combat ensured while Olaf attempted to talk things to a peaceful resolution.  Captain Blood used the cigar to convey himself to the whaling vessel, allowing Olaf to accompany him.  The party managed to subdue the remaining crew on the ship but were unable to crew the ship themselves, as they did not have enough people.  They managed to get a few of the crew of the Liberty to come and join them, the Liberty looked like ti was in immediate danger of falling to attack from the assault by captain Blood's crew.  Captain Blood blew smoke at Olaf, who found himself back on the Adventurer's prize, and the ship was transported a few leagues away.  The device which Fynn had stolen from the merchant was used to contact the merchant who gave Nicholas an advanced pistol as thanks, telling him that he would get the price of it from the thief.  He also sold Queequeeg some armor and rather advanced swords and put Olaf in touch with Glorm, the cigar smoking demon.  Glorm took all of Olaf's remaining money as down payment for retrieval of his whaling ship and set off to retrieve his cigar.  The ship headed south in the direction of Guadaloupe, with the hope of sailing south of it and finding a native shaman who might be able to return Olaf's skin and eyes to their normal state.   Those pirates that had not been killed, along with a sailmaker who had been kept prisoner on the ship were enough to crew it, although just barely.

« on: December 11, 2016, 07:48:50 am »
The size and interface are the same.  It should work.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: RP still not getting it
« on: December 10, 2016, 09:19:02 am »
He's got a youtube video, though.  Gotta give him that.

Yep. Shit went on at "Boys Town". Yes there's secret criminal activity in the world, top to bottom.

What's funny is his posturing for moral superiority based on his ability to link to YouTube when he has that frog hanging out of his ass that he claims to worship and thinks is just a big old kek.

Kinda emblematic of his whole shtick really.

poser mage,
poser moralist,
poser "Christian",
wannabe Disco,
wannabe RP

Takes himself REAL seriously
Even as he seriously gets taken

When did I pretend to be Christian? And what do you consider to be a "real" mage?

I consider a real mage to be someone who can produce magical effects for an open minded but skeptical observer.  Predicting an election is not enough, if you are going to do prediction you need to predict something which a much lower probability.  Or else reliably predict at a higher rate than probability.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: RP still not getting it
« on: December 08, 2016, 11:00:21 pm »

"The end justifies the means."

Heard that joke before.

And yall seem to have no problem telling that joke yourselves. Apparently multiplying foreign wars with massive civilian casualties and economic devastation from free trade are just the price we have to pay for gay marriage. Dont dare vote against those things or youre a bigot! And anyone who claims to care about those things is just a bigot in disguise!

I know engaging with you is a mistake, but I am really sick of this one. This argument implies belief that Trump is not going to increase foreign wars and civilian casualties, as well as not tanking our economy. Dude is already failing at international politics and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. His plans for the economy will tank what's left of the middle class, line the pockets of the super rich, and make poverty a death sentence. Hillary was not good, but there is not one position where Trump was actually better. Not. One. ON TOP of being an absolutely unprepared buffoon with bad policy ideas where he had policy ideas at all, and ON TOP of being so dangerously unstable that we have to worry about him starting wars at 3am because someone hurt his feelings, he ALSO promotes an agenda of gay bashing, racism, xenophobia, and anti-semitism.

It's not like he's some isolationist anti-war messiah come to save us from Neo-Liberalism. He's a shit sandwich and bigotry is just the chunky bits mixed in.

AND BEFORE YOU HOLLER TPP ONE MORE FUCKING TIME: Hillary backpedaled on it before she was running against Trump, and I was out hollering about it before this election ever happened. Trump didn't kill it, it was already dead. I sincerely hope you and everyone you agree with get AIDS and die.

Trump is better on at least two positions.  He's opposed to NAFTA and he's for leaving weed up to the states.  I voted for Clinton and I recognize that Trump is really awful, but claiming that he is not better than her in any way is false, and leaves your arguements open to attack.

RPG Ghetto / Re: My latest campaign
« on: December 04, 2016, 08:26:48 am »
Olaf awoke from his opium stupor to the attentions of Queequeeg the whaler.  He realized that he had lost his fortune, in whale oil, ivory and opium, and when Queequeeg mentioned shipping with Black Bart he went down to the docks to talk with the man.  he managed to talk Bart into giving him ten shares until his boat was recovered.  The ship set out and headed west, after the sun set Olaf went up to the crow's nest to smoke opium.  He failed to spot a pirate ship which Bart's ship, the Liberté ended up colliding with.  Olaf's quick words managed to avert hostilities and the collided with ship, that of Red Rackham, joined in the endeavor.  They did head toward one of the windward isles to make repairs from the collision.  Along the way a Dutch merchant ship was spotted.  Olaf negotiated a surrender from the ship and put the crew ashore on the island where Red Rackham was conducting his repairs.  A party ensued in which the wine plundered from the dutch merchant ship was consumed.  Natives of the island joined the party.  Queequeeg attempted to hunt sharks and was attacked by a school of them.  A pirate lost his life saving him but Queequeeg, both boats, and half a dozen sharks were recovered.  3 of the sharks were given to the lover of the deceased pirate as blood payment for his loss. 

The pirates encountered a Spanish naval vessel and put down a long boat to attempt to take it before it could do too much damage to the Liberty.  There as a brief skirmish between the boarding party and some Spanish defenders, then Queequeeg crippled the rudder and the Spanish cannonneers had a catastrophic failure which ignited the powder and caused the ship to explode.  Queequeeg and the rest of the boaridng party made it back without any serious harm and Queequeeg maintained (with the support of the others) that he had caused the ship to explode by smiting it with his poleaxe.

The ship put into Martinique, where Captain blood had not been seen.  Queequeeg got several baths from several beautiful women to learn this information.  They all declined this invitation to wed.  The ship continued north, putting into harbor on the island of Dominica, which did not have white settlements.  Fynn got himself caught in a trap, Queequeeg waited for locals to come to retrieve him and with Olaf's help traded a shark and several spears for Fynn's freedom and healing services.  The ship continued north to Guadaloupe, a much smaller settlement, where Queequeeg managed to secure a vow of marriage from a young woman named Elysse.  he also engaged in mercantile transactions with a dark skinned Merchant named Deskar Null.  Fynn stole an odd flat black device from him, the pair, along with Elysse, were visited by a tall demon with a cigar.  He tongue lashed Fynn but lost his cigar to  him and then had a knife planted in his eye by Elysse and vanished.  Captain Blood's ship was sighted,  Queequeeg rowed out to present a challenge to duel,  he ended up dueling Captain Blood's champion and losing the battle.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Turning Purple
« on: December 02, 2016, 04:52:01 am »

I don't think that there's a single approach that will win working-class people back left. I think we'll need a mix of education, pointing out Trump's failures, and a healthy feel-good dose of Shaming.

Sure there is, ditch wall street and support the working class.  Stop supporting trade agreements that export jobs, smash the finance industry when it tries to take advantage of students and middle class home owners, tax the shit out of the wealthy and stop taxing everyone else.

Apple Talk / Re: Welcome to Discordia
« on: December 02, 2016, 04:36:49 am »

Keep telling yourself it was about trade deals. It's easier than facing reality I guess.

So trade had absolutely nothing to do with it? Clintons support of the TPP and NAFTA was just trivia? Again, please oh person who was completely ignorant of Trumps victory explain to me how his voters ACTUALLY think.

And keep completely ignoring the economy brahs! Totally isnt a thing that people vote for at all!

I'm pretty sure the Klan vote, for example, didn't give a fuck. I'm also quite sure the fundamentalist Christian vote didn't give a shit either. In both cases there "white male" was the winning ticket.

Or are we still pretending that voters are well informed on a range of issues?

And Nigel, I think it's more likely to be "Fedora issues" for want of a better term. The bullshit mea culpa made that much apparent.

The klan and fundies didn't manage to put a white man in office when they were facing a black man, which is much worse in the klan's eyes than a woman, who many thought was a Muslim, worse from a fundy point of view.  So It isn't just that Trump was supported by those groups.

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