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If humankind can get itself off the planet while still being assholes, so can aliens. Long and tedious alien bureaucracy, death ray travel times or pure sadism in watching humanity suffer might be the only reason we still exist. So the moment people get a solid foot in space without losing the idea of mitigating potential future threats, people become dead/enslaved. If humans get to space being hippies or some shit, there's a tiniest chance everybody else did the same, and then there's galactic raves, bad music, drugs, peace and sex for everybody and their pet robots. On the other hand, that tiniest chance will still exist if we stay warmongers, and then we get a chance to raid, rape and demolish a whole fucking galaxy of defenseless hippies. And genocide is certainly one of our favorite hobbies.
Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 14, 2018, 09:13:00 pm »
James Bond as a honeypot-type agent -- he's not physically or mentally capable of normal counterintelligence work, but he successfully seduces, distracts, and thereby extracts information out of enemy agents of all genders.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Cain on March 14, 2018, 06:58:29 pm »
Yeah, but climate change is a Chinese conspiracy, so that's best handled by threatening war with China.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by LMNO on March 14, 2018, 06:45:22 pm »
Not to mention, Pompeo is a rabid climate change denier, for which the Venn diagram of his new job intersects a HELL of a lot more than his previous.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by tyrannosaurus vex on March 14, 2018, 04:52:29 pm »
It's almost like the State Department has been intentionally crippled and gagged by someone with a vested interest in blunting America's ability to act diplomatically at all. Probably just a coincidence, though.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Cain on March 14, 2018, 04:38:06 pm »
Yup, though apparently the guy in question was known as a Never-Trumper despite being a political appointee (?) so they were looking for an excuse.  In any event, State is now completely gutted.  Most major positions are unfilled.  41 ambassdorships, including to major countries like Germany, still have yet to be filled.  And Pompeo has a hate boner for both North Korea and Iran.

Next stop will be kicking out McMaster at the NSC and replacing him with John Bolton.  This is going to happen, it's only a matter of when.  And then Mattis will be outflanked on North Korea and Iran.  And then, if the negotiations even happen (North Korea has not yet responded to the US), Trump can blithely fuck them up and go on with the military action like he wanted to.
Apple Talk / Re: Anarchist space program (every rocket gonna explode radicallly)
« Last post by P3nT4gR4m on March 14, 2018, 04:10:50 pm »
Musk walks a fine line between genius and bankruptcy. Sooner or later he'll go under. I'm just hoping that doesn't dissuade the corporations that space is a fucking profitable enterprise.

It'd be nice if we colonised the galaxy as some kind of utopian star trek, greater good of humanity project but that's not going to happen. Human beings are neither great nor good, they're greedy little self centred fuckheads who will only engage in something if they can make a quick buck on it.

In the real world it's either greedy corporations racing for the mining rights to the asteroid belt and setting up overpriced chain restaurants in low lunar orbit or else humanity ends in this pathetic fucking gravity well we call Earth.

Either option suits me just fine.

Bring and Brag / Lauren McCarthy (TEAM HUMAN)
« Last post by Bobby Campbell on March 14, 2018, 02:58:03 pm »
I very much appreciate your interest, Stclair!  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

Here's the current ep and a couple extra!

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« Last post by Cramulus on March 14, 2018, 01:27:40 pm »
Our small group finished reading In Search of the Miraculous. Would definitely reccommend it. Though take it with a grain of salt--Ouspensky's relationship to Gurdjieff is complicated, and he gets hung up on certain things that are immaterial. As an intellectual, he also lets the specifics occlude the metaphor.

I'm also just wrapping up James Moore's biography of Gurdjieff, which was also a fantastic read. Even if you don't get into the actual Fourth Way stuff, Gurdjieff himself was a fascinating character--just reading about his life is a crazy ride.

Just wanted to share a few fragments which have struck me.

Every week, they have us try a different practical exercise in self observation. One of them takes a little time and patience, it's about 10 minutes of focusing on different body sensations, on inhabiting your limbs and feeling how your attention changes your experience of them. Someone in our group noted that the first few days were easy, but on day 3+ he had a lot of trouble focusing. He was given a good piece of advice - losing focus doesn't mean you're failing. Observing how you lose focus is part of the exercise.

We lose our focus constantly! What's happening in that exact moment? feel it out... become acquainted with it.

I was invited to another talk at the Gurdjieff foundation in Manhattan. This talk was about listening. It's interesting -- at first, I found the talk a little dry, and repetitive. But over the next few days, my thoughts kept returning to it. There was a lot said which I didn't understand, and the meaning gradually unfolded. It was almost like it was being digested by my slower emotional center, rather than the quick intellectual center. Maybe that's why everybody talks so slowly and deliberately at these things... every word counts. "Every note is a full octave on another plane"

Listening to your partner is has a lot to do with being present. This is something I struggle with; I'm often in my head, analyzing and going on tangents, and my attention strays from the conversation. I zone out. I forget what they are talking about and then I pick it up from context. But when I'm talking to someone with a presence, someone who is really there, in the here and now, they are listening to every word I'm saying, giving it full attention and consideration.

That's why one of the exercises Gurdjieff reccommends is to mentally put yourself in your conversation partner's shoes. What would it feel like to be them, right now? Imagining this takes all three of your brains.

It also helps develop the egolessness that is behind the veil. Because there is something that is alive in this universe, and that is shared. It's not individualized. Our personalities and our bodies make us think of ourselves as separate, but the spark animating the meat is collective, ancient---it was born in the first cellular life and we will pass it on like torchlight, a continuous unbroken light from the beginning of humanity until its final breath.

And being a good listener is part of it. When you listen, and you can feel the words affecting you, you're not just processing them with your intellect but also feeling the emotions behind them, how the subtle postures and body movements are all expressions are intertwined with it.... when you're really listening .... there is something in the universe that listens to other parts of the universe, and it's not just egos.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by LMNO on March 14, 2018, 12:25:57 pm »
According to the latest reports, Tillerson didn't know he was going to be fired.  Interesting.

And then they summarily fired the staffer who said Tillerson didn't know.
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