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Bring and Brag / Lauren McCarthy (TEAM HUMAN)
« Last post by Bobby Campbell on March 14, 2018, 02:58:03 pm »
I very much appreciate your interest, Stclair!  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:

Here's the current ep and a couple extra!

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« Last post by Cramulus on March 14, 2018, 01:27:40 pm »
Our small group finished reading In Search of the Miraculous. Would definitely reccommend it. Though take it with a grain of salt--Ouspensky's relationship to Gurdjieff is complicated, and he gets hung up on certain things that are immaterial. As an intellectual, he also lets the specifics occlude the metaphor.

I'm also just wrapping up James Moore's biography of Gurdjieff, which was also a fantastic read. Even if you don't get into the actual Fourth Way stuff, Gurdjieff himself was a fascinating character--just reading about his life is a crazy ride.

Just wanted to share a few fragments which have struck me.

Every week, they have us try a different practical exercise in self observation. One of them takes a little time and patience, it's about 10 minutes of focusing on different body sensations, on inhabiting your limbs and feeling how your attention changes your experience of them. Someone in our group noted that the first few days were easy, but on day 3+ he had a lot of trouble focusing. He was given a good piece of advice - losing focus doesn't mean you're failing. Observing how you lose focus is part of the exercise.

We lose our focus constantly! What's happening in that exact moment? feel it out... become acquainted with it.

I was invited to another talk at the Gurdjieff foundation in Manhattan. This talk was about listening. It's interesting -- at first, I found the talk a little dry, and repetitive. But over the next few days, my thoughts kept returning to it. There was a lot said which I didn't understand, and the meaning gradually unfolded. It was almost like it was being digested by my slower emotional center, rather than the quick intellectual center. Maybe that's why everybody talks so slowly and deliberately at these things... every word counts. "Every note is a full octave on another plane"

Listening to your partner is has a lot to do with being present. This is something I struggle with; I'm often in my head, analyzing and going on tangents, and my attention strays from the conversation. I zone out. I forget what they are talking about and then I pick it up from context. But when I'm talking to someone with a presence, someone who is really there, in the here and now, they are listening to every word I'm saying, giving it full attention and consideration.

That's why one of the exercises Gurdjieff reccommends is to mentally put yourself in your conversation partner's shoes. What would it feel like to be them, right now? Imagining this takes all three of your brains.

It also helps develop the egolessness that is behind the veil. Because there is something that is alive in this universe, and that is shared. It's not individualized. Our personalities and our bodies make us think of ourselves as separate, but the spark animating the meat is collective, ancient---it was born in the first cellular life and we will pass it on like torchlight, a continuous unbroken light from the beginning of humanity until its final breath.

And being a good listener is part of it. When you listen, and you can feel the words affecting you, you're not just processing them with your intellect but also feeling the emotions behind them, how the subtle postures and body movements are all expressions are intertwined with it.... when you're really listening .... there is something in the universe that listens to other parts of the universe, and it's not just egos.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by LMNO on March 14, 2018, 12:25:57 pm »
According to the latest reports, Tillerson didn't know he was going to be fired.  Interesting.

And then they summarily fired the staffer who said Tillerson didn't know.
Anybody want to go lurk around NASA facilities disguised as a top secret spy satellite? In space nobody can hear you party.
Apple Talk / Re: Pack it in, humans.
« Last post by Frontside Back on March 14, 2018, 11:50:28 am »
His speech machine probably contains parts of his consciousness. Science can only be saved by necromancy.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by Emo Howard on March 14, 2018, 08:10:09 am »
Well, we had our first test of the "Blue Wave" here in TN, today.

How did that go, you ask?

Final tally:

Trump-loving Republican: 72%

Democrat ATHETIT: 28%
Apple Talk / Re: Pack it in, humans.
« Last post by Emo Howard on March 14, 2018, 08:01:24 am »

What about Bill Nye!

BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL! Bill! Bill. bill... bill...


I'm sorry.
Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 14, 2018, 06:07:58 am »
"The Carpenter" A movie about Jesus which focuses on his day job as a carpenter. This is done to have an excuse to comically conflate him with Thor and show off his hammer skills
Apple Talk / Pack it in, humans.
« Last post by tyrannosaurus vex on March 14, 2018, 04:47:49 am »
Stephen Hawking is dead, and with him any hope we ever had of devising a spaceship powerful enough to escape this horrible ball of horseshit we call a "planet".

Sure, there are other scientists, and sure, Hawking was mostly parity pooper who kept telling us why AI and alien contact would be bad. But he was was the last remaining face of REAL SCIENCE who was generally liked. Now, the only person standing between us and absolute idiocracy is that Neil DeGrass Tyson guy, and he runs out of brainpower halfway through buttoning up his shirt.

It is the end of an era, and the next one will be so defined by ignorance and woo that it'll be a miracle if we make it another 10 years without forgetting how to breathe. So if you're the kind of person who likes happy endings or, you know, hope in general, now would be a good time to drive off a cliff.
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