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Apple Talk / A Treatise on "Isms"
« Last post by MMIX on December 13, 2017, 09:45:07 pm »
As "Isms" have historically proved to be somewhat controversial subject on the board I thought some of you might get a buzz out of this presentation
Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by Rococo Modem Basilisk on December 13, 2017, 08:41:13 pm »
Limited time dilation tech (using layers of superdense and superlight materials) becomes inexpensive; this isn't time travel tech proper, but instead just emphasizes the difference in time's flow rate between inside and outside. There isn't much call for this outside of couriership of freshness-sensitive products -- such as organs and (more importantly) pizza. In fact, major pizza chains decide that their 20-minutes-or-less guarantee is about freshness instead of service speed, and that therefore, in delivery trucks covered in these time-dilating microlayers, the time inside the truck is what counts rather than the time outside the truck. As a result, pizza delivery trucks are essentially the only product with this coating -- with layers at such a scale that a 20 minute delivery time typically results in a five minute old pizza. One day, a seismic event deep below the earth sudenly changed the density of the magma below a major city so quickly that a delivery down the street from the pizza place accidentally occurred before the pizza was ordered. The pizza's age was negative, and the pizza collapsed into a super-dense disc that sucked in time. It's up to the delivery boy to return the pizza to the appropriate time before it can prematurely age the whole city -- relying upon doing high speed doughnuts around the densest building in the city to rocket himself forward in time.
Principia Discussion / Re: Neoism
« Last post by The Wizard Joseph on December 13, 2017, 03:58:48 pm »
I hought he meant there was a Matrix breakfast cereal and nobody told me.

With marshmallow Agent Smiths!
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« Last post by The Wizard Joseph on December 13, 2017, 03:51:40 pm »
Cram this thread and your journey are amazing and, other than that I consider many folks here friends, are a primary reason I come back to PD when I have Internet access. Thanks for doing it! I suspect that your journey is just beginning and that you will discover wonders beyond what you ever thought possible.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« Last post by Cramulus on December 13, 2017, 02:38:07 pm »

Last night, instead of meeting, we were invited to a special presentation at the Gurdjieff Foundation.

This was really exciting for me. Way back when I started thinking about this stuff, I was intrigued by the mystery... they were holding cards they weren't showing us. Now, 8 months later, the five of us are invited to the actual Foundation building for the first time. We didn't know what to expect. We just knew we'd be listening to some music and readings.

The Gurdjieff Foundation building used to be a firehouse. Before we went in, our host asked us to keep silent while we were inside. It's fancy in there! We hung up our coats in the basement and then sat down in a temple-looking room.

The place I was in had a certain feeling to it - an aura of contemplation and peace. Nobody really spoke while I was there. I'd say there were about 100 people in the audience. Our group of five -- most of us are in our mid 30s -- were definitely the youngest people there by some 15 years.

The ceiling of the temple was tiered, like a ziggurat. I recognized the shape from a diagram in a Gurdjieff book - the idea is a temple with four court yards, each inside the other. Each court yard is gated, you are not allowed access to it until you have been properly intiated into the mysteries. The innermost courtyard is sacred ground, only for those who have made it to the center of the work.

During this presentation, the audience was seated in the "outer courtyard" area, and the performance was in the inner courtyard area.

Here's a picture I managed to sneak after the performance:

The presentation lasted about an hour. It consisted of three readings, interspersed with about 7 songs, played by different people on a grand piano.

The connecting theme was the "sayyids". Sayyid is an arabic word meaning "Master". Muslims that can trace their bloodline back to the Prophet are considered holy people -- sayyids. Gurdjieff and the composer Thomas de Hartmann joined forces to create a body of amazing music. Several of their pieces were called the Sayyids.  (also spelled "Sed")

There is a character to this music... I almost felt like I understood what it was saying before it was "explained". A speaker did touch on their nature - the Sayyids have two 'voices' - the lower voice consists of two notes alternating over and over, like a vibration that runs through the whole piece, a lawful order of everyday life. The second voice is played independently, it floats through the higher octaves.

The readings were from Gurdjieff's book "Meetings with Remarkable Men". It described a time when he wanted to visit Kafiristan, a place inhabited by nomadic tribes. These people do not welcome outsiders, and the whole country was considered inacessible by Europeans.

Gurdjieff and his friend Doctor Skridlov decided to explore Kafiristan while disguised as holy men. Here's one of the readings:

At supper that evening, after the religious ceremony of the
christening, there sat next to me an old Turkoman nomad, a friend of the
host and owner of a large flock of caracul sheep. In the course of my
conversation with him about the life of nomads in general and about the
different tribes of Central Asia, we began talking about the various
independent tribes inhabiting the region of Kafiristan.

Continuing our conversation after supper, during which of course
Russian vodka had not been economized, the old man, by the way and
as though to himself, expressed an opinion which Professor Skridlov
and I took as advice; and in accordance with it we drew up a definite
plan for carrying out our intention.

He said that, notwithstanding the almost organic distaste of the
inhabitants of this region for having anything to do with people not
belonging to their own tribes, there was nevertheless developed in
nearly every one of them, to whatever tribe he belonged, a certain
something which naturally arouses in him a feeling of
respect and even love towards all persons, whatever their race, who
devote themselves to the service of God.

After this thought had been expressed by a nomad whom we had met
by chance, and who had spoken perhaps thanks only to Russian vodka,
all our deliberations, that night and the next day, were based on the idea
that we might get into this country, not as ordinary mortals, but by
assuming the appearance of persons who are shown special respect there
and who have the possibility of going freely everywhere without
arousing suspicion.

....we categorically decided that Professor Skridlov should
disguise himself as a venerable Persian dervish and I should pass for a
direct descendant of Mohammed, that is to say, for a Sed.

To prepare ourselves for this masquerade, a long time was necessary,
as well as a quiet, isolated spot. And that is why we decided to settle
down in the ruins of Old Merv, which met these requirements and
where, moreover, we could at times, for a rest, make some excavations.
Our preparation consisted in learning a great many sacred Persian
chants and instructive sayings of former times, as well as in letting our
hair grow long enough for us to look like the people for whom we
intended to pass; make-up in this case was quite out of the question.
After we had lived in this way for about a year and were finally
satisfied both with our appearance and our knowledge of religious
verses and psalms, one day, very early in the morning, we left the ruins
of Old Merv, which had come to be like home for us, and going on foot
as far as the station of Baram Ali on the Central Asiatic Railway, we
took a train to Chardzhou, and from there set off by boat up the river
Amu Darya.

some art on the walls:

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: You are a work of art
« Last post by The Invisible Man on December 13, 2017, 02:24:53 pm »
The only thing which is, is not. You are it but it isn't you  :lol:

Wherever you go, there you are. Who wrote the book of love?

This is fun.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: You are a work of art
« Last post by Accelerated Evolution on December 13, 2017, 10:28:48 am »
The only thing which is, is not. You are it but it isn't you  :lol:
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« Last post by The Invisible Man on December 12, 2017, 08:58:16 pm »
I adore reading about your progress through this system, Cram.
Principia Discussion / Re: Neoism
« Last post by The Invisible Man on December 12, 2017, 08:54:58 pm »
I hought he meant there was a Matrix breakfast cereal and nobody told me.
Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by tyrannosaurus vex on December 12, 2017, 04:07:10 pm »
A mad scientist manages to generate a stable, long-lasting micro-singularity in his lab. He uses it as a sex toy.
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