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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 12:57:00 am

Title: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 12:57:00 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 12:58:43 am
Point of order:  You're a shitbag.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Hoopla! on November 20, 2013, 01:01:55 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

I have it on good authority that North West cried for nine months straight before being born.  His first words were: FML
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 01:02:28 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

I have it on good authority that North West cried for nine months straight before being born.  His first words were: FML

Who is North West?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Hoopla! on November 20, 2013, 01:02:58 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

I have it on good authority that North West cried for nine months straight before being born.  His first words were: FML

Who is North West?

The offspring of Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 20, 2013, 01:10:38 am
I'm so vain, I probably think that this thread is about me.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 08:39:02 am
Point of order:  You're a shitbag.

You are a bit of an asshole yourself :)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 08:40:01 am
I'm so vain, I probably think that this thread is about me.

Now you're just being mean! :)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 02:25:51 pm
Point of order:  You're a shitbag.

You are a bit of an asshole yourself :)

At least I don't abuse 6 kids that are in my care.   :)

Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 02:40:46 pm
Point of order:  You're a shitbag.

You are a bit of an asshole yourself :)

At least I don't abuse 6 kids that are in my care.   :)

Neither do I. I, on the other hand, don't accuse you of abusing anyone. Not even the kids you used to spank to make them stay away from dangerous things.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:14:40 pm
Point of order:  You're a shitbag.

You are a bit of an asshole yourself :)

At least I don't abuse 6 kids that are in my care.   :)

Neither do I.

Betcha you do.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 03:35:33 pm
Okay, how do we settle the bet? :)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:36:27 pm
Okay, how do we settle the bet? :)

Not really concerned.  I just plan to, you know, hound you for the foreseeable future. 

Ask around. I'm a forgiving guy.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 20, 2013, 03:38:12 pm
A shining example of humanity, to be true.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:39:13 pm
A shining example of humanity, to be true.

I hardly ever keep this shit up for 8 years or more.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 20, 2013, 03:41:51 pm
"Live and let live," that's his motto.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:42:19 pm
"Live and let live," that's his motto.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 20, 2013, 03:45:55 pm
I'd love to chat, but I'm off to a parents' evening at the school. Bye for now!
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:47:02 pm
I'd love to chat, but I'm off to a parents' evening at the school. Bye for now!

Does the school know you choke your children?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2013, 03:47:59 pm
Aw, he ran away.  :sadbanana:

But he'll be back.  He can't help himself.  :banana:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Reginald Ret on November 20, 2013, 07:23:56 pm
"Live and let live," that's his motto.

 :lulz:
Reminds me of my colleague ZZ, he is always opposed to letting anyone die, criminals, elderly, you name it he wants to keep it alive. He won't even kill me! He does this to prolong their suffering.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 03:04:43 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 21, 2013, 03:59:50 am
"Live and let live," that's his motto.

 :lulz:

"Let sleeping dogs lie."  Yes, yes, indeedy...  :lol:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 21, 2013, 06:28:59 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Demolition Squid on November 21, 2013, 09:10:53 am
By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

(http://i.imgur.com/nsBn3wW.png)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 21, 2013, 02:32:50 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

Is he saying pregnant ladies shouldn't fuck? I can't even tell.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 21, 2013, 03:09:57 pm
Is he saying pregnant ladies shouldn't fuck? I can't even tell.

I was wondering about that, too.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 21, 2013, 03:22:52 pm
Is he saying pregnant ladies shouldn't fuck? I can't even tell.

I was wondering about that, too.

If he is, that's some straight up Scientology woo, there.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2013, 03:25:15 pm
I think he is saying that painful feeling in his butt proves his moral and intellectual superiority to the rest of the forum.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: hirley0 on November 21, 2013, 04:51:25 pm
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Is he saying pregnant ladies shouldn't fuck? I can't even tell.

I was wondering about that, too.

If he is, that's some straight up Scientology woo, there.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 06:27:43 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 06:31:19 pm
Holist, the reason nobody likes you is only partly because you're a condescending pedant. The primary reason is because you're FUCKING STUPID. If you're going to be an asshole, you damn well better make sure that at least you're RIGHT, and if you're not right, you better be prepared and willing to admit you're WRONG. But you're not only rarely right, you won't ever admit to being wrong, and you say THE STUPIDEST, most ILL-INFORMED THINGS when actual correct information is literally just a finger-touch away. You're stupid AND you're LAZY.

And being a condescending asshole while being both stupid and lazy is a pretty surefire way to not make friends.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 21, 2013, 06:56:07 pm
Holist, the reason nobody likes you is only partly because you're a condescending pedant. The primary reason is because you're FUCKING STUPID. If you're going to be an asshole, you damn well better make sure that at least you're RIGHT, and if you're not right, you better be prepared and willing to admit you're WRONG. But you're not only rarely right, you won't ever admit to being wrong, and you say THE STUPIDEST, most ILL-INFORMED THINGS when actual correct information is literally just a finger-touch away. You're stupid AND you're LAZY.

And being a condescending asshole while being both stupid and lazy is a pretty surefire way to not make friends.

FUCK!!! THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING. HOW COME YOU COULDN'T HAVE TOLD ME THIS YEARS AGO  :argh!:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 07:04:35 pm
Holist, the reason nobody likes you is only partly because you're a condescending pedant. The primary reason is because you're FUCKING STUPID. If you're going to be an asshole, you damn well better make sure that at least you're RIGHT, and if you're not right, you better be prepared and willing to admit you're WRONG. But you're not only rarely right, you won't ever admit to being wrong, and you say THE STUPIDEST, most ILL-INFORMED THINGS when actual correct information is literally just a finger-touch away. You're stupid AND you're LAZY.

And being a condescending asshole while being both stupid and lazy is a pretty surefire way to not make friends.

FUCK!!! THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING. HOW COME YOU COULDN'T HAVE TOLD ME THIS YEARS AGO  :argh!:

You get a special pass because you have fabulous abs.

You bring pretty to the table, honey, and we're willing to overlook a lot of faults for pretty.

A lot of faults.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 21, 2013, 07:12:19 pm
I'm not just a piece of meat! Okay, yeah, I pretty much am just a piece of meat  :oops:

And I'm getting older and flabbier by the minute :eek:

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 07:55:51 pm
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 21, 2013, 11:59:09 pm
Mmmmm. Abs.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Ben Shapiro on November 22, 2013, 12:59:29 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

Is he saying pregnant ladies shouldn't fuck? I can't even tell.


Trying to figure it out myself.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 22, 2013, 06:51:58 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

Wait, is homeopathy the same as holistic medicine?

I can't tell my pseudosciences apart anymore.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 22, 2013, 06:52:53 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 22, 2013, 06:54:50 am
Mmmmm. Abs.

BBQ or Buffalo?

Twid,
likes Scotland Fried Cannibalism
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 22, 2013, 06:55:46 am
Holist, the reason nobody likes you is only partly because you're a condescending pedant. The primary reason is because you're FUCKING STUPID. If you're going to be an asshole, you damn well better make sure that at least you're RIGHT, and if you're not right, you better be prepared and willing to admit you're WRONG. But you're not only rarely right, you won't ever admit to being wrong, and you say THE STUPIDEST, most ILL-INFORMED THINGS when actual correct information is literally just a finger-touch away. You're stupid AND you're LAZY.

And being a condescending asshole while being both stupid and lazy is a pretty surefire way to not make friends.

Congratulations on your vitriol.

However, you are wrong. I am not stupid, a fact you yourself have acknowledged several times when I posted things you actually approved of. I am willing to admit that I am wrong, have done so here. But in this particular case, you are wrong. Oh, and I have enough friends already. This has now progressed to hostility training. For which I am grateful. :)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 22, 2013, 08:02:30 am
Mmmmm. Abs.

BBQ or Buffalo?

Twid,
likes Scotland Fried Cannibalism


EAT ME!



no ... wait ... :argh!:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Reginald Ret on November 22, 2013, 12:17:17 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

Wait, is homeopathy the same as holistic medicine?

I can't tell my pseudosciences apart anymore.
Homeopathy is the idea that like heals like, so they would use hydrochloric acid to cure a sunburn. The first homeopath noticed that this didn't have the best results so he said the healing effects got stronger if you did the magical dilute and shake several times. As you can imagine it is a very special shake. They call it potentiating. Sadly, modern homeopaths don't know their own history so they sometimes just use undiluted plantextracts and occasionaly they accidentaly actually cure someone.
Holistic medicine means medicine that look at the entire person and not just the disease or bodypart that is in trouble. Theoretically a good idea. It is mostly practiced by people with severe woo woo views on reality, so you come to get your rash fixed without losing your hair and you wind up getting your chakras re-aligned.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 22, 2013, 01:47:03 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Die in all the fires.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 22, 2013, 01:47:37 pm
I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Well, I asked a guy I know, and he says you're an idiot. 
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Suu on November 22, 2013, 03:10:08 pm
y
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

I have a JSTOR account, too.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: hirley0 on November 22, 2013, 04:12:46 pm
y
I have a JSTOR account, too.
8:12 A Link would seam helpful: 8:16
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Suu on November 22, 2013, 05:56:05 pm
Jstor.org

It's an article database. You should have access through your university.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Freeky on November 22, 2013, 09:42:36 pm
Mmmmm. Abs.

(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/335/0/5/daigotsu_kanpeki_by_steveargyle-d4etygu.jpg)


Delicious abs.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 23, 2013, 03:16:46 am
Mmmmm. Abs.

BBQ or Buffalo?

Twid,
likes Scotland Fried Cannibalism


EAT ME!



no ... wait ... :argh!:

Too late Snicker's Bar. Get in the motherfucking fryer.

Recommend the best scotch or beer to go with you first though. All we know here in Boston is Bellhaven, Glenfidditch, Johnnie Walker and Cutty Sark.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 23, 2013, 03:41:47 am
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Well, I for one am INTERESTED in holist's "science".

Tell me, if a pregnant woman is startled by a cat, will the baby have a cat-shaped birthmark?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2013, 03:46:24 am
on the other hand, it would really explain why so many people are dickheads.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 23, 2013, 03:49:04 am
on the other hand, it would really explain why so many people are dickheads.

Man, that gay bar catty is coming out something fierce tonight!
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2013, 03:55:01 am
IS FRIDAY. WINE IN HAND. PINKY UP.

ENJOY MY TAINTSWEAT.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 23, 2013, 03:55:57 am
*resists urge to tell that tired joke about "that motherfucker who keeps coming in here and spitting on me"*

IS FRIDAY. WINE IN HAND. PINKY UP.

ENJOY MY TAINTSWEAT.

NEWSFEED
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 23, 2013, 04:31:17 am
*resists urge to tell that tired joke about "that motherfucker who keeps coming in here and spitting on me"*

IS FRIDAY. WINE IN HAND. PINKY UP.

ENJOY MY TAINTSWEAT.

NEWSFEED

SECONDED.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2013, 10:14:50 pm
For anyone who is actually interested in a science way and not a woo-woo way, there has been quite a lot of research in the last ten years into how maternal experiences, both positive and negative, affect the development of the fetus in-utero. There is a team up at OHSU who has been doing quite a lot of work with this (Carr-Morse may ring a bell) mostly focused on the effects of maternal stress.

Now, let's talk about the reason there hasn't been much research into the effects of sex on the fetus since the mechanisms at play were established in studies in the late 1980's and early 90's; there isn't anything new, at this point, to look at there. We know that the fetus is insulated from the outside world by the amniotic sac, and that largely what it experiences physically is what the mother experiences; in other words, if she experiences pleasure, the fetus also receives the wave of pleasure hormones, and if she experiences stress, fear, or pain, the fetus experiences the hormones related to stress, fear, and pain.

Based on what we actually know about fetal development, what's important is not how the fetus' direct "experience" shapes its development (unless something very unusual happens in which it loses the buffering effect of the maternal womb), but how the mother's experience shapes the fetal experience. In other words, if the mother is happy, nurtured, and relaxed, the fetus will receive the benefits of her happy, nurtured, and relaxed chemical state... including the happy, nurtured, and relaxed state that comes from regular sex within the context of a stable and healthy relationship. And indeed, we find that the children of women who are in happy, nurturing, stable relationships (and who do not have other undue stressors such as poor health or poverty) tend to be larger, healthier, and happier children. Regular exposure to her partner's semen also results in a healthier pregnancy that is more likely to be carried to term: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201107/the-protective-health-benefits-sperm-pregnant-women.

None of this is breaking news. It isn't some esoteric, unstudied area of human development. Sure, there's more to find out, which is why, y'know, this exists: http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/centers-institutes/onprc/scientific-discovery/research-divisions/reproductive-sciences.cfm. This is all part of a large and established body of knowledge around sex, partnership, pregnancy, and child outcomes.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2013, 10:18:53 pm
Oh, and as for the uterine contractions during orgasm, as any basic pregnancy book will tell you, the uterus contracts regularly and usually much more strongly on a regular basis throughout the last half of pregnancy as it prepares its musculature for the rigors of childbirth. Late in the pregnancy they increase in intensity. They're called Braxton-Hicks contractions. 
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 24, 2013, 10:07:11 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Die in all the fires.

You what? I mean, all the fires at the same time, or one after the other? :D
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 24, 2013, 10:07:51 pm
I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Well, I asked a guy I know, and he says you're an idiot.

Funny, but the exact same thing happened to me!
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 24, 2013, 10:09:27 pm
The other day, I was wondering whether fetuses cry, and whether they vomit. I asked google and it turns out they do cry, this has been ascertained by 3d scanning, but the vomiting thing was more difficult, and then I stumbled into this:

http://myotherhalf.blog.com/2009/10/06/fetal-vomiting-flu-vaccines/

This guy is just amazingly bizarre. And it seems pretty plain to me that he is wrong. But he could be onto something.

It looks about as valid as homeopathy.

Nice of you to bring that in.

On the other hand: effect of parents having sex on the fetus? Given that we no longer think of a newborn baby as essentially a meat doll awaiting occupation by a soul a couple-few months later? And that these days it is no longer considered outrageous to think that prenatal experiences may have character-forming effects?

By the way, sorry to be condescending yet again, but you asked for it. :)

This isn't some unexplored territory that nobody knows about. The effects of maternal coitus and orgasm on the fetus are fairly well-studied and understood. Why don't you ask an obstetrical researcher or look up scholarly articles, instead of making shit up on your own or relying on random whackjobs from the internet to give you ideas? FFS.

I disagree. I did ask the obstetrical researcher I know (in fact, it was the first thing I did), and they said they know very little about the long-term psychological effect (if any, of course) of parental sex and maternal orgasm on the fetus, or more accurately the person that that fetus grows into. There's research, sure, about the risk that parental sex poses to the pregnancy, but that is a different matter. I also looked at scientific papers: a few old ones (30-years-old, that is), but nothing recent.

Well, I for one am INTERESTED in holist's "science".

Tell me, if a pregnant woman is startled by a cat, will the baby have a cat-shaped birthmark?  :lulz:

It may do, but it won't be because of its mother being startled by a cat. :D
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 24, 2013, 10:17:37 pm
For anyone who is actually interested in a science way and not a woo-woo way, there has been quite a lot of research in the last ten years into how maternal experiences, both positive and negative, affect the development of the fetus in-utero. There is a team up at OHSU who has been doing quite a lot of work with this (Carr-Morse may ring a bell) mostly focused on the effects of maternal stress.

Now, let's talk about the reason there hasn't been much research into the effects of sex on the fetus since the mechanisms at play were established in studies in the late 1980's and early 90's; there isn't anything new, at this point, to look at there. We know that the fetus is insulated from the outside world by the amniotic sac, and that largely what it experiences physically is what the mother experiences; in other words, if she experiences pleasure, the fetus also receives the wave of pleasure hormones, and if she experiences stress, fear, or pain, the fetus experiences the hormones related to stress, fear, and pain.

Based on what we actually know about fetal development, what's important is not how the fetus' direct "experience" shapes its development (unless something very unusual happens in which it loses the buffering effect of the maternal womb), but how the mother's experience shapes the fetal experience. In other words, if the mother is happy, nurtured, and relaxed, the fetus will receive the benefits of her happy, nurtured, and relaxed chemical state... including the happy, nurtured, and relaxed state that comes from regular sex within the context of a stable and healthy relationship. And indeed, we find that the children of women who are in happy, nurturing, stable relationships (and who do not have other undue stressors such as poor health or poverty) tend to be larger, healthier, and happier children. Regular exposure to her partner's semen also results in a healthier pregnancy that is more likely to be carried to term: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201107/the-protective-health-benefits-sperm-pregnant-women.

None of this is breaking news. It isn't some esoteric, unstudied area of human development. Sure, there's more to find out, which is why, y'know, this exists: http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/research/centers-institutes/onprc/scientific-discovery/research-divisions/reproductive-sciences.cfm. This is all part of a large and established body of knowledge around sex, partnership, pregnancy, and child outcomes.

Thanks for that. I didn't however, say it was some esoteric, unstudied area: I said I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit, and in the process, came across the guy I, in my initial post, described as bizarre and certainly wrong, but possibly engaged with something interesting. But I am sorry.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 24, 2013, 10:20:49 pm
Oh, and as for the uterine contractions during orgasm, as any basic pregnancy book will tell you, the uterus contracts regularly and usually much more strongly on a regular basis throughout the last half of pregnancy as it prepares its musculature for the rigors of childbirth. Late in the pregnancy they increase in intensity. They're called Braxton-Hicks contractions.

Thanks for that as well, I'll look into it tomorrow. Been busy.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 25, 2013, 01:55:56 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2013, 05:19:01 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 25, 2013, 05:25:53 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Because whackjob on the internet.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2013, 05:29:54 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Because whackjob on the internet.

What the hell was I thinking?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 25, 2013, 05:51:22 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

Amniotic fluid, which they swallow first. This, apparently, has now been captured decisively on 3D ultrasound, and goes on quite a lot.

http://www.ajronline.org/doi/abs/10.2214/AJR.04.1114 (http://www.ajronline.org/doi/abs/10.2214/AJR.04.1114)
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2013, 05:55:17 pm
So what?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 25, 2013, 05:56:23 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Well I find it unusually difficult to throw up. I will suffer for hours instead of giving up the stuff that causes the suffering. So I was wondering about why that could be and how the ability to vomit forms in the first place.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: LMNO on November 25, 2013, 06:02:58 pm
Maybe because you're an insufferable control freak with serious childhood trauma?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 25, 2013, 06:13:16 pm
Maybe because you're an insufferable control freak with serious childhood trauma?

Yes, could be. I don't think I'm a control freak, insufferability is in the eye of the insufferer, but the childhood trauma, while partly quite trivial (mum swallowing incorrect baby-feeding advice from a well-meaning but underinformed pediatrician hook line and sinker), turns out to have been somewhat serious nevertheless.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2013, 06:14:58 pm
Maybe because you're an insufferable control freak with serious childhood trauma?

Yes, could be. I don't think I'm a control freak, insufferability is in the eye of the insufferer, but the childhood trauma, while partly quite trivial (mum swallowing incorrect baby-feeding advice from a well-meaning but underinformed pediatrician hook line and sinker), turns out to have been somewhat serious nevertheless.

UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 25, 2013, 06:16:02 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Because whackjob on the internet.

What the hell was I thinking?

I wonder if Holist is hip to the worldly philosophies of Time Cube Guy?
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 25, 2013, 06:21:12 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Because whackjob on the internet.

What the hell was I thinking?

I wonder if Holist is hip to the worldly philosophies of Time Cube Guy?

Never heard of him, looked him up. He seems mad.
Title: Re: "Smelly Worthless Hippy Fathers Who Don't Know How to Use Condoms"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2013, 06:24:54 pm
I wanted to find out whether fetuses vomit,


What could they possibly vomit, if they are being nourished through the umbilical cord?

More to the point, why would that information be required in the first fucking place?

Because whackjob on the internet.

What the hell was I thinking?

I wonder if Holist is hip to the worldly philosophies of Time Cube Guy?

aka the Anti-Hirley0.