Plan of action

[Ambassador KAOS]

Proposed title:
How to Survive the Black Iron Prison: A field User's Guide

1) keeps the spirit of the original title but mututes it so people needing to change it for changes skae are happy.
2) indicates a slightly hopefull premise and thus makes some of the negativiety in the contnent writing seem more tongue in cheek, which was my big gripe (though even then, I'd still recomend reworking a few areas).
3)Is assanine (and it should be).
4)(imo)Represents the actual mission of the book, to help one understand their own limitations and make a life mission of expanding the walls, breaking them down and building up new ones... to raise awareness of what we are actually doing so that we can take a more active role in our own lives.   It is impossible to escape BIP, but you can rearrange it, be an agent of change per se.  After reading a lot of the BIP material (the original pamphlet, and some forum and wiki) I really think that this actually represents the mission accopmlished by the BIP VS what the whatever original mission was (to include it as some sort of extentsion of the PD). 

As writing is old hat for me I'd have to say that when titleing, only do so when done though.  This way you can actually represent what it is presented as a whole rather than box yourself in to a confined space of writing.  Instead this gives you the ability to roam where you need to with the work instead of try and conform to some preset doctrine you have in your psyche.

On deciding where to go next?
I think it needs more artwork. Pictures are good, they save words and attract retards, which is of course the target audience.  People who are too dumb to come across this stuff on their own and need a hitch in their get along.
More articles, condense what is in the wiki into more readable article oriented format as opposed to just lists of quotes, instead demonstrate these quotes in the articles so that they become self evident truths.  be sure to "cross of the lines that don't make no sense" (k. Cobain) so that the message is clear enough for someone with a min. IQ of 100 to grasp.  I'd like to see more articles leading in the direction of how deal with the pesimistic view that you are stuck in a prison that you can't escape, so we're trapped, how do we get out if there is no getting out?  What can we do to make this a better place for our own ends?  I'd like to see that done in a rather light hearted manner. 

get writing?  Umm, ok, who is in charge of this thing to assign me a topic?  what do other people think we need to add?

part 4 is something I have no control over

part 5 is contained herein

[Triple Zero]

After reading a lot of the BIP material (the original pamphlet, and some forum and wiki)

yeeaay people read the wiki!

mr KAOS, if you feel like contributing, there's loads more of "forum" (and i'd say pamphlet as well) to be copied to the wiki, so give the word and someone'll set you up the account for editing etc

On deciding where to go next?
I think it needs more artwork. Pictures are good

LHX made diagrams, some other people did too.

one can easily upload images to the wiki, then write a little accompanying text with it, link it to relevant articles, et voila, more content.

More articles, condense what is in the wiki into more readable article oriented format as opposed to just lists of quotes, instead demonstrate these quotes in the articles so that they become self evident truths.

good plan. my plan for now was just to save as much as possible of the writings up to now to that wiki, in order to pin them down in a slightly more convenient format than simply scattered gems of wisdom throughout threads on a forum, and save the formatting and ordening for later--i can get distracted to small details very quickly (seconds to minutes) so i gotta be a bit hard on myself, but if you wanna format and order the stuff, certainly!

get writing?  Umm, ok, who is in charge of this thing to assign me a topic?  what do other people think we need to add?

nobody is in charge (duh ) and i sometimes play the role of reminder of people there's a wiki. Synaptyx is the guy that hosts that place, and can set you up an account, give him a PM.

topic you must find for yourself i think, but pretty much anything goes. just a hint, try to keep it a bit short and concise, people don't have attention spans ANY MORE

[Ambassador KAOS]

After reading a lot of the BIP material (the original pamphlet, and some forum and wiki)

topic you must find for yourself i think, but pretty much anything goes. just a hint, try to keep it a bit short and concise, people don't have attention spans ANY MORE

...huh?

[Triple Zero]

i sorta forgot what i meant by the last two words.

just go with it

[LMNO]

I think the AK's proposed title works, in the sense that sure, we can point out the BIP, but that's just a noun.

By calling it "How to Survive the BIP", or "Living inside the BIP", or whatever, we're being inclusive, and it appears helpful (although, we know all about "appearences", don't we?).

Just my $0.02.

[P3nT4gR4m]

also puts the reader on the 'us' side of the 'them and us' divide

gets my vote

[hooplala]

I know I haven't really been a part of any of this, so take it for what its worth, but what if you just dropped the "Black Iron" part and called it the Prison?  Same metaphor, less plagiarism.

It's got less zing, I admit it . . . so, I don't know . . .

[hunter s.durden]

See: Renaming thread (fiasco)

[hooplala]

Ahhh - gotcha.

[hunter s.durden]

As you can see we already spent two months deciding to leave the name alone.

If you think you can win hearts and minds, go for it.

But it looks like BIP stuck.

[Cramulus]

Just to be cantankerous, I call it the Phillip K Dick Iron Prison






(it's also a link!)

[LMNO]

Plus, Syn already paid for the wiki page, so...

[hunter s.durden]

Just to be cantankerous, I call it the Phillip K Dick Iron Prison

[hooplala]

I shall say no more.