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Aneristic Strife

Started by LMNO, December 05, 2006, 02:37:06 PM

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Cain

I havent read much Camus lately, so I decided not to say, in case it was more off than I thought.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

I think you were right on, just from a more scientific observation standpoint than Camus' philosophical one. So we could say that Eristic or Aneristic Strife could be brought about by confusing the menu (Eristic Grid/Aneristic Grid) with the meal (reality)?

Is Aneristic Strife different than the Curse of Greyface?
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

barumunk

Quote from: DJRubberducky on December 06, 2006, 03:28:09 PM
I figure strife is strife, and whether it's eristic or aneristic depends on why you're struggling.

If the police are called in to break up a riot, strife will ensue.  For the rioters, it's an eristic strife because their goal was to help bring about change.  For the police, it's an aneristic strife because their goal was to maintain the status quo.

seems to me, and i might be late in the bandwagon jumping que, but... it seems to me that Aneristic Strife would nicely explain the anxiety that lots of pre-BIP readers might feel.

It's that feeling of being trapped by that mundane, which leads to the need to "break out".
were as the opposite would lead people to finding a more "traditional" religion/belief system so as to find comfort in the boundries.

In either case Eristic/Aneristic strife seems to me to be the catalyst of belief change. (that final shove)


"For it is with the mysteries of our religion, as with wholesome pills for the sick, which swallowed whole, have the virtue to cure; but chewed, are for the most part cast up again without effect." Thomas Hobbes

I was always taught to chew everything before i swallow.

AFK

Bump. 

The infamous, to some of us, Moon Thread. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

LHX had some great one-liners in that.

Plus, I can't believe it took us at least three pages before someone remembered that a full moon and a quarter moon have the same mass.

Cramulus

wow, this thread looks incredibly tame by today's standards. No capslock, no flouncing, wtf?

Here's my contribution, which is actually an X-Post from another thread:

Quote from: Cramulus on May 23, 2009, 07:57:57 PM
Quote from: fomenter on May 23, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS - Monday, August 20, 2001

Statistics collected by the bureau through June 30 showed four of the last six deaths ruled to be homicide or manslaughter occurred during a full moon.

You can't get significant results with such a small sample.

QuoteIn fact, from January 1999 through the first six months of 2001, the number of manslaughters during a full moon was more than 220 percent greater than on all other days, according to BCI statistics.

The argument I've often heard against these studies is that they do not control for Days of the Week. Maybe it's because the full moons are happening on weekends? I would be willing to bet that there are more homocides on Fridays and Saturdays than on week nights. Hey, why do you think they chose 1999-2001 as their sample?

So I decided to look it up. check it out, here are all of those moons:

1999 Jan  2 02:51  Sat    2451180.619
1999 Jan 31 16:08  Sun    2451210.172
1999 Mar  2 07:00  Tue    2451239.792
1999 Mar 31 22:50  Wed    2451269.452
1999 Apr 30 14:55  Fri    2451299.122
1999 May 30 06:41  Sun    2451328.778
1999 Jun 28 21:39  Mon    2451358.402
1999 Jul 28 11:26  Wed    2451387.976
1999 Aug 26 23:49  Thu    2451417.492
1999 Sep 25 10:52  Sat    2451446.953
1999 Oct 24 21:03  Sun    2451476.377
1999 Nov 23 07:05  Tue    2451505.795
1999 Dec 22 17:33  Wed    2451535.231
2000 Jan 21 04:42  Fri    2451564.696
2000 Feb 19 16:28  Sat    2451594.186
2000 Mar 20 04:46  Mon    2451623.699
2000 Apr 18 17:43  Tue    2451653.238
2000 May 18 07:35  Thu    2451682.816
2000 Jun 16 22:28  Fri    2451712.436
2000 Jul 16 13:57  Sun    2451742.081
2000 Aug 15 05:14  Tue    2451771.718
2000 Sep 13 19:38  Wed    2451801.318
2000 Oct 13 08:54  Fri    2451830.871
2000 Nov 11 21:16  Sat    2451860.386
2000 Dec 11 09:05  Mon    2451889.878
2001 Jan  9 20:26  Tue    2451919.351
2001 Feb  8 07:13  Thu    2451948.801
2001 Mar  9 17:24  Fri    2451978.225
2001 Apr  8 03:24  Sun    2452007.642
2001 May  7 13:55  Mon    2452037.080
2001 Jun  6 01:41  Wed    2452066.570



about 14 out of 30 full moons occured on weekends. I suspect that will greatly skew the effect.



QuoteSimple assault, aggravated assault and robbery, however, all decreased during a full moon compared with all other days, according to BCI.

that is pretty weird.


QuoteUtah BCI defines a "full moon" as the actual day of a full moon as well as the day before and the day after.

that'll skew results too.


QuoteOverall, based on the eight categories analyzed, crime was up 2.86 percent during a full moon compared with all other days.

beating a dead horse, I wonder if that 2.86 percent is terribly different than the amount by which crime increases on the weekends.



Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on May 11, 2010, 06:43:35 PM
wow, this thread looks incredibly tame by today's standards. No capslock, no flouncing, wtf?

Well, it was...
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