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I am Intrigued
« on: December 05, 2006, 10:35:03 pm »
What would a stranger noob like me need to know to get in on the ground floor of operations in this little disorganization?

I read the phamplet already, but out of order since the assembly instructions are magnificiently complicated, and also couldn't help but feel like it ends on a bit of a mystery.

What I am left wondering is, is there more?  Most of the phamplet felt like preaching to choir for me, and considering that, I have to ask (not to sounds Matrix cliche) does this rabbit hole run any deeper?

Also I think I was encouraged to check this stuff out, it seems like the avant garde of Discord.

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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 10:56:33 pm »
I can't speak for anyone else that's contributed to the project, but personally, I tend to consider myself more as someone who has shitloads of questions and dialogues about them in a manner that occasionally leads me to an insight into something.

But I'd be a lying motherfucker if I said I had Answers(tm).

But every voice in the conversation adds an exponential layer of feedback and perspective, so welcome aboard. Props on the Macho Man avatar.
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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 11:23:41 pm »
humility, creativity, and progress seem to be the name of the game

people heading in the same direction have a tendency to end up in the same place at some point


there is a 'WE' here, but there is also a revolving door

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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2006, 12:50:34 pm »
The process tends to go like this:

Make an insight.  Delve into it.  Post it.

Then, we all offer our take on it.  Hopefully, we bring a new angle to it, shed more light on it.

Sometimes, we call utter bullshit on it.  Sorry, them's the breaks.

Then, we refine it, and see if it can be made into a pamphlet, or something.


So:  Fire away.

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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 02:52:59 pm »
I look at it as a no-joke approach to Discordianism.  In the process, these new, or new to us, metaphors evolved.  It was and is quite magical. 

Yeah, the first pamphlet was a little preachy.  And it did scare some pd.com regulars.  But, I think we wanted to get down to the brass tacks to use a cliche.  The Principia Discordia was great but, sometimes, it felt like maybe the humor got in the way of the message.  And certainly, today, the humor would just plain get lost.  It's outdated. 

This effort is an attempt to update the message, in the process, we've taken it our own way, whoever the our is.  So as everyone has said, and I will echo, pull up a chair, bean-bag, toadstool, whatever and ante up. 
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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 06:09:18 pm »

I look at it as a no-joke approach to Discordianism. 


My advice is - don't lose the joke. The truth will set you free. You can tell it's the truth cos it makes you laugh. I loved the BIP but only cos I got that shit years ago. I still see it as a joke. The universe is pretty much one big cosmic joke as far as I'm concerned. Laughing at it is freedom.
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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 06:11:25 pm »
Yeah, but there's a difference between the Cosmic Joke, and "LOL!  Pineal Gland!  23 Skidoo!  LOL!"

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 06:13:47 pm »
Yeah, but there's a difference between the Cosmic Joke, and "LOL!  Pineal Gland!  23 Skidoo!  LOL!"

Don't get me wrong PD is seriously old hat. But ffs lighten up the next release. Imagine BIP from the POV of someone who gains insight from it. That's some alienating shit right there.
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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 06:15:57 pm »
Feel free to contribute.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 06:18:32 pm »
I disagree, with SC.  Mostly because I've had people I know, here in the real world, read it and of all the various comments I heard, none of them had to do with it being too heavy.  Scary maybe, but truthful.  

The problem with the humor is that you potentially get people focusing on the wrong thing.  For example, the "enlightened" Portland discordians who go around spray painting Fnord on the Longfellow statue.  What the fuck is that really accomplishing besides making some poor underpaid sap stand out in the cold with a sandblaster.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 06:19:40 pm »
Feel free to contribute.

Unfortunately what you've read so far is as good as my shit gets. If you think any of it is worthy then by all means nick it, plaguiarise it, fuck it out of context. Take credit for it if you want. My thoughts are public domain. If you want to commission a brainfart then gimme a spec and see how disappointed you are with the end result.
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Re: I am Intrigued
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 06:22:27 pm »
Cool.  Let's do it this way:  No one has completely agreed upon what the BIP actualls is.  Same with the Machine‚Ñ¢. 

Write up your takes on both things, and we'll jam 'em in the next edition.

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 06:23:48 pm »
I disagree, with SC.  Mostly because I've had people I know, here in the real world, read it and of all the various comments I heard, none of them had to do with it being too heavy.  Scary maybe, but truthful. 

Fear is a shit way to motivate people. For a start they're prolly gonna adopt that "oh ffs I can see whats happening but there's nothing I can do about it" mindset. So how to break that down? Prolly not by making them even more scared.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2006, 06:24:49 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2006, 06:25:29 pm »
I disagree, with SC.  Mostly because I've had people I know, here in the real world, read it and of all the various comments I heard, none of them had to do with it being too heavy.  Scary maybe, but truthful. 

The problem with the humor is that you potentially get people focusing on the wrong thing.  For example, the "enlightened" Portland discordians who go around spray painting Fnord on the Longfellow statue.  What the fuck is that really accomplishing besides making some poor underpaid sap stand out in the cold with a sandblaster.

it would be funny if somebody put a cartoon bubble coming out of a statues mouth that said something like "Help!"
or
"I turned into metal!"

but seriously
as far as the tone of BIP goes
future endeavors will only get better and better

its the nature of the beast
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