SBOTD - Good Boy! aka. Things You Don't Need to Hear

[AFK]

"Cleaver" is the family on "Leave it to Beaver."  Typical American Black and White/do gooder/Mom and Pop fair from the 50's.  But they were your typical family of 4, nothing ever really went wrong, Dad got the promotion, Mom made the killer Apple Pie.  Sure, once in awhile Beaver would get himself stuck on a Billboard (apparently they had no water towers), but he never did anything "really" bad.  

[B_M_W]

The iconic Man goes to work, Woman stays at home, clean-cut middle class lifestyle.

*blegh*

[Jenne]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really.  Like the Disney of families, I guess.

[Jenne]

The iconic Man goes to work, Woman stays at home, clean-cut middle class lifestyle.

*blegh*

Yes, but you'd be surprised how many of us are preprogrammed to accept this as normal.

I've seen article after article on this terrible tr00f in magazines and newspapers.

[P3nT4gR4m]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really.  Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

[Jenne]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really. Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

Americans do make rather a lot about their icons, don't we?  I think that's a particular barstool dilemma that won't be conquered...we'll probably just get bloody heads.

[P3nT4gR4m]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really. Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

Americans do make rather a lot about their icons, don't we?  I think that's a particular barstool dilemma that won't be conquered...we'll probably just get bloody heads.

I wouldn't say any more than UK. We got our fair share of icons over here.

[AFK]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really. Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

Americans do make rather a lot about their icons, don't we?  I think that's a particular barstool dilemma that won't be conquered...we'll probably just get bloody heads.

Nope, it just changes form.  The Cosby Show wasn't much different really.  Sure, you had some African-American culture and more kids, but at the end of the day, the family wasn't all that different then the "Cleavers."  Nothing truly bad or devastating ever happened to the family. 

[Jenne]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really. Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

Americans do make rather a lot about their icons, don't we? I think that's a particular barstool dilemma that won't be conquered...we'll probably just get bloody heads.

I wouldn't say any more than UK. We got our fair share of icons over here.

Please to be naming a few.  For you UK'ers rarely drop them as often as we do in our writing.

[Jenne]

Nope, it just changes form. The Cosby Show wasn't much different really. Sure, you had some African-American culture and more kids, but at the end of the day, the family wasn't all that different then the "Cleavers." Nothing truly bad or devastating ever happened to the family.

Well, that show was a saaaad testament to popular media's white-washing of Black middle class culture.

Juxtapose that with the previous decade's "Good Times" to see what I am talking about.

[P3nT4gR4m]

It's a popular iconic theme in American gestalt, really. Like the Disney of families, I guess.

I get a lot of these but when I don't I usually end up reading posts over and over for clues.

Americans do make rather a lot about their icons, don't we? I think that's a particular barstool dilemma that won't be conquered...we'll probably just get bloody heads.

I wouldn't say any more than UK. We got our fair share of icons over here.

Please to be naming a few.  For you UK'ers rarely drop them as often as we do in our writing.

Thing is we get most of your tv shows over here anyroad but you only get a small percentage of ours so most of us don't expect you to get a line from one of ours. Nobody watches sitcoms anymore but theres loads of one liners and soap opera character refs that are pretty much UK universal. If I was to say some lady looked like Dot Cotton it'd be a small percentage that didn't know who I meant. If we're just talking about Scotland then I could say "Gonny no dae that" or "his dad's Rab C" (prolly wouln't even need the Nesbit part for Davedim to get me)

[Jenne]

See, I find it rather sad that the proliferation of our pop culture and resultant icons reinforces this idiotic American notion we have that everyone should "get" what we're talking about...esp with self-referentials.

I am deeply guilty of this, of course, so I suppose I'll just get over it. 

[LMNO]

Any culture does that.




Go up to somebody on the street and reference the Barstool Experiment.


They won't know what you're talking about, but we will.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Any culture does that.




Go up to somebody on the street and reference the Barstool Experiment.


They won't know what you're talking about, but we will.

Difference is if you're as big a culture as america you get to be surprised when they don't

[Jenne]

Any culture does that.




Go up to somebody on the street and reference the Barstool Experiment.


They won't know what you're talking about, but we will.

Difference is if you're as big a culture as america you get to be surprised when they don't

Exactly.

Every culture has referentials.  Every culture has icons.  Not every culture expects strangers from different lands to know what they are.