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[Doc Howl]

Either that, or you decided to substitute a cheap shot for an argument.  Based on your posts so far, I think that's more likely.  

On a related note, you've never rebuilt a car engine, have you?  I mean, since tools don't have standard actions, I imagine you found some way to use a socket wrench as a gear puller.  I'd be interested in any new insights you have...you know, like using a screwdriver as a torque wrench, etc.

God damn. You're either a brilliant troll, or a complete fucktard. (Just thought it was worth stating.)

Is there any reason I can't be both?  I think I've clearly stated that I am an idiot.  There's no reason I can't be a genius troll, too.

[B_M_W]

Do you really believe that we actually BELIEVE all this stuff?

I think LHX does.  Not too sure about you, yet.  You came running pretty quick.

As for the D&D quip, I find it bizzare that anyone would think that tools have some kind of standard action for which they are useful, and that you could put a "good" or "bad" lable on that. "Whatever works".

Either that, or you decided to substitute a cheap shot for an argument.  Based on your posts so far, I think that's more likely.  

On a related note, you've never rebuilt a car engine, have you?  I mean, since tools don't have standard actions, I imagine you found some way to use a socket wrench as a gear puller.  I'd be interested in any new insights you have...you know, like using a screwdriver as a torque wrench, etc.

1)LHX doesn't believe this stuff. We've had talks in the past about how full of shit it is. Hes had the good nature to tell ME how full of shit I am when I start spouting BS. Its all mind excersises really, all this occult stuff, new metaphores that we can apply to think in new ways about things.

2)No, but I've taken a laptop appart, and let me tell you, theres lots of stuff in your desk drawer that can become tools if you need them. I figure theres a similar level of complexity there.

[Doc Howl]

Do you really believe that we actually BELIEVE all this stuff?

I think LHX does.  Not too sure about you, yet.  You came running pretty quick.

As for the D&D quip, I find it bizzare that anyone would think that tools have some kind of standard action for which they are useful, and that you could put a "good" or "bad" lable on that. "Whatever works".

Either that, or you decided to substitute a cheap shot for an argument.  Based on your posts so far, I think that's more likely.  

On a related note, you've never rebuilt a car engine, have you?  I mean, since tools don't have standard actions, I imagine you found some way to use a socket wrench as a gear puller.  I'd be interested in any new insights you have...you know, like using a screwdriver as a torque wrench, etc.

1)LHX doesn't believe this stuff. We've had talks in the past about how full of shit it is. Hes had the good nature to tell ME how full of shit I am when I start spouting BS. Its all mind excersises really, all this occult stuff, new metaphores that we can apply to think in new ways about things.

2)No, but I've taken a laptop appart, and let me tell you, theres lots of stuff in your desk drawer that can become tools if you need them. I figure theres a similar level of complexity there.

1)  That's not the impression I get.  He complains too much about "modern science" being inadequate. 

2)  Yeah, you've never rebuilt an engine.

[B_M_W]

Do you really believe that we actually BELIEVE all this stuff?

I think LHX does.  Not too sure about you, yet.  You came running pretty quick.

As for the D&D quip, I find it bizzare that anyone would think that tools have some kind of standard action for which they are useful, and that you could put a "good" or "bad" lable on that. "Whatever works".

Either that, or you decided to substitute a cheap shot for an argument.  Based on your posts so far, I think that's more likely.  

On a related note, you've never rebuilt a car engine, have you?  I mean, since tools don't have standard actions, I imagine you found some way to use a socket wrench as a gear puller.  I'd be interested in any new insights you have...you know, like using a screwdriver as a torque wrench, etc.

1)LHX doesn't believe this stuff. We've had talks in the past about how full of shit it is. Hes had the good nature to tell ME how full of shit I am when I start spouting BS. Its all mind excersises really, all this occult stuff, new metaphores that we can apply to think in new ways about things.

2)No, but I've taken a laptop appart, and let me tell you, theres lots of stuff in your desk drawer that can become tools if you need them. I figure theres a similar level of complexity there.

1)  That's not the impression I get.  He complains too much about "modern science" being inadequate. 

2)  Yeah, you've never rebuilt an engine.

Tell me, have you ever taken apart a laptop?

[Doc Howl]

Tell me, have you ever taken apart a laptop?

Nope.  Is there a torque spec for putting it back together?  Any timing issues to worry about?  Any machining necessary?

[B_M_W]

Tell me, have you ever taken apart a laptop?

Nope.  Is there a torque spec for putting it back together?  Any timing issues to worry about?  Any machining necessary?

Nope, you haven't. And if you haven't actually worked with a laptop before, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Period.

Theres a reason they void warrenty if there is any evidence of being opened.

[Doc Howl]

Tell me, have you ever taken apart a laptop?

Nope.  Is there a torque spec for putting it back together?  Any timing issues to worry about?  Any machining necessary?

Nope, you haven't. And if you haven't actually worked with a laptop before, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Period.

Theres a reason they void warrenty if there is any evidence of being opened.

Yeah, I pretty much said "nope" as in "nope, I have never taken a laptop apart".  Then I asked you a couple of questions about it.

So now maybe you can explain why not having dismantled a laptop makes me incapable of knowing what the fuck I am talking about when it comes to tools.  This I GOTTA hear.

[Doc Howl]

Tick-tock.

[Doc Howl]

No response.  Well, this Buddhist Monk guy is a punk.  End of story.

[Thurnez Isa]

conventional history and science fall short of explaining a lot of shit

namely ridiculously self-destructive tendencies

fear?

primative fear, still left over from our pre-civ days?

[Jasper]

No response. Well, this Buddhist Monk guy is a punk. End of story.

Timezones.  BMW sleeps like anyone else.

You act a lot like Roger.  Very easy to believe you knew each other.

[Doc Howl]

No response. Well, this Buddhist Monk guy is a punk. End of story.

Timezones.  BMW sleeps like anyone else.

You act a lot like Roger.  Very easy to believe you knew each other.

BMW was here during the entire interval between those posts.

And Roger and I have known each other since 1987.  Roger is the reasonable one.  He was always telling us to calm down, when there are hundreds of people walking around begging to be punched in the face.


You know Efrim, right?

[B_M_W]

Tell me, have you ever taken apart a laptop?

Nope.  Is there a torque spec for putting it back together?  Any timing issues to worry about?  Any machining necessary?

Nope, you haven't. And if you haven't actually worked with a laptop before, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Period.

Theres a reason they void warrenty if there is any evidence of being opened.

Yeah, I pretty much said "nope" as in "nope, I have never taken a laptop apart".  Then I asked you a couple of questions about it.

So now maybe you can explain why not having dismantled a laptop makes me incapable of knowing what the fuck I am talking about when it comes to tools.  This I GOTTA hear.

You Win argument, I loose. Game over.

You can tear apart the occult all you want, personally I never cared enough for this shit in the first place. I only jumped in to help X get accross what he was saying. Obviously failed at that.

Besides, I've got other things on my mind right now. Think of me what you will

[Jasper]

No response. Well, this Buddhist Monk guy is a punk. End of story.

Timezones.  BMW sleeps like anyone else.

You act a lot like Roger.  Very easy to believe you knew each other.

BMW was here during the entire interval between those posts.

And Roger and I have known each other since 1987. Roger is the reasonable one. He was always telling us to calm down, when there are hundreds of people walking around begging to be punched in the face.


You know Efrim, right?

I've heard the name, but I can't claim to know him.

Roger is reasonable, despite what people will say.

I think I remember his email, actually. 

rogerepenrose@comcast.com

[Cain]

Efrim is apparently the meanest hippie in the known world.  His dispatches from Europe are good reading.