Just a little chat.

[Majeh]

When you die, you,Äôre going to regret the things you don,Äôt do. You think you,Äôre queer? I,Äôm going to tell you something, we,Äôre all queer. You think you,Äôre a thief? So what? You get befuddled by a middle-class morality? Get shut of it. Shut it out. You cheated on your girlfriend? You did it, live with it. You fuck little girls, so be it. There,Äôs an absolute morality? May be. And then what? If you think there is, then be that thing. Bad people go to hell? I don,Äôt think so. If you think that way, act that way. A hell exists on earth? Yes. I won,Äôt live in it. That,Äôs me.

You ever take a dump that made you feel like you slept for twelve hours? Or a piss? A great meal fades in reflection. Everything else gains. You know why? Cause it,Äôs only food. This shit we eat, it keeps us going. But it,Äôs only food. The great fucks you may have had. What do you remember about them? I don,Äôt know. For me, I,Äôm saying, what it is, it,Äôs not the orgasm. Her forearms on my neck, something her eyes did. There was a sound she made...or, me, lying, in the, I,Äôll tell you: me lying in bed; the next day we go out and have fun. Then we fool around some more, my balls feel like concrete. Eh?

What I,Äôm saying, what is our life? It,Äôs looking forward or it,Äôs looking back. And that,Äôs our life. That,Äôs it. Where is the moment? And what is it that we,Äôre afraid of? Loss. What else? The bank closes. We get sick, my girlfriend dies in a car accident, the stock market collapsed, the house burnt down; what of these happen? None of ,Äòem. We worry anyway. What does this mean? I,Äôm not secure. How can I be secure? Through amassing wealth beyond all measure? No. And what,Äôs beyond all measure? That,Äôs a sickness. That,Äôs a trap. There is no measure. Only greed.

How can we act? The right way, we would say, to deal with this: ,ÄúThere is a one-in-a-million chance that so and so will happen. Fuck it, it won,Äôt happen to me.,Äù No. We know that is not the right way I think. We say the correct way to deal with this ,ÄúThere is a one-in-so-and-so chance this will happen. God protect me. I am powerless, let not happen to me.,Äù But no to that. I say, there,Äôs something else. What is it? ,ÄúIf it happens, AS IT MAY for that is not within our powers, I will deal with it, just as I do today with what draws my concern today.,Äù I say this is how we must act. I do those things which seem correct to me today. I trust myself. And if security concerns me, I do that which today I think will make me secure. And every day I do that, when the day arrives that I need a reserve, (a) odds are that I have it, and (b) the true reserve is that I have the strength that I have of acting each day without fear. According to the dictates of my mind. Stocks, bonds, objects of art, friends. Now: What are they? An opportunity. To what? To make money? Perhaps. To lose money? Perhaps. To ,Äòindulge,Äô and to ,Äòlearn,Äô about ourselves? Perhaps. So fucking what? What isn,Äôt? They,Äôre an opportunity. That,Äôs all. They,Äôre an event. You walk up to a guy, he makes a call, something gets done, it doesn,Äôt matter, ,ÄúThere,Äôs this person that I,Äôd like you to meet.,Äù What does it mean? What do you want it to mean? Money? Security? Comfort? All it is is THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO YOU. That,Äôs all it is. How are they different? Some poor, newly married guy gets run down by a cab. Some busboy wins the lottery. All it is, it,Äôs a carnival. What,Äôs special, what draws us? We,Äôre all different. We,Äôre not the same. We are not the same.

Hmmm,Ķ

It,Äôs been a long week.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

When you die, you,Äôre going to regret the things you don,Äôt do.

When I die, I won't regret a damn thing.

[Jasper]

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[LMNO]

Are you arguing for moral equivalency?


Just trying to sort out your post.

[AFK]

Am I the only one reading this and asking the question,

What the hell are you talking about?

I think there is a point but it's getting lost on me. 

[LMNO]

For me, I got thrown by the implication it was ok to fuck little girls.

[Cain]

So did I.

As far as I can tell, this seems to be a nihilistic, egotistical point of view that reduces morality to another unnecessary abstraction and allows everything.  Which is the second trick of the CoN, once the bright-eyed optimism wears off.  "Fuck everyone else over, so long as you're OK."

Hey, it works for the Bush administration after all....

[AFK]

For me, I got thrown by the implication it was ok to fuck little girls.

Holy crap, I skimmed right over that one. 
THE OP should know that anyone who thinks it might be OK to fuck MY little girl will definitely have their balls feeling like concrete because they would become a part of the concrete along with their skull.

just sayin.

[LMNO]

Before we go overboard, let's point out that he didn't explicitly say it was ok to fuck little girls.  He was probably being polemical.


However, he's got a bit of 'splainin to do, that's for sure.

[Cain]

Yeah, I tended to treat that as being an example.

That said, nihilism and moral equivalency are just another CoN tool.  If nothing you do is either good or bad, then neither is anything anyone else does, in which case everything is justified and action becomes simultaneously null and the only truth.  Which is suspiciously close to both the arguments of the Bolsheviks in particular, Marxists in general and the NeoCons.

Oops, I may just have given some of the game away there.

[AFK]

Are you saying a spiked club to the head is overboard then?   :-D

I shall reserve judgement, just wanted to make sure the OP knows where I am coming from.  Good to know your audience and all that jazz.  

[P3nT4gR4m]

Can someone just clarify for me - is it okay to fuck little girls or not?

[B_M_W]

Cultural Relativism is one thing, but I highly disaprove of moral relativism. There are some basic moral standards of conduct, and fucking little girls is not one of them.

BMW,

NOT a moral relativist.

[Cain]

Indeed.  Cultural relativism is teh win, but not when it extends to, for example, stoning rape victims.

[LMNO]

Not even if they were asking for it?