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Started by LHX, June 24, 2007, 05:50:59 PM

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Bu🤠ns

Quote from: PopeTom on June 26, 2007, 04:37:57 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:51:49 AM


men are becoming women
women are becoming men


...


There is a problem with this?

In only so far as I do not know the first thing about being a lesbian.

For one, is there a secret handshake?

i asked my lesbian friend...she says its more of a fistshake.

B_M_W

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 26, 2007, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 26, 2007, 12:52:22 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 26, 2007, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Payne on June 25, 2007, 04:28:40 PM
she went through an entire pregnancy and NOBODY noticed.

She didn't have the "great with child" look, though she did appear to be putting on weight.  She was always emotionally unstable and she alwayshad weird eating habits.

I know, it sounds like something from a soap opera, but that's the way it happened dude.

this sort of scenario is seriously one of my worst nightmares evar.

i'd feel the ground crumbling away under my feet if i ever got news like that.

worse story even, sister of a friend of mine didn't even quit taking the pill (freak chance). didn't notice she stopped menstruating because of the pill. got a slightly bigger belly, and pain in her belly. got pregnancy tests, which turned out negative (due to the pill, and freak chance). doctor found out about halfway the pregnancy (or after the point were it's not okay to have an abortion anymore, i forgot), exploded into "great with child" only a few days after she acknowledged the pregnancy to herself and stopped taking the pill.
baby is -despite the pill- healthy as fuck, almost creepily healthy even.
(i probably got some of the facts wrong in this story, so don't get me on biological accuracy or anything)

oh and definitely not trying to trivialize your story here, Payne. i just had to think of it. the possibility still scares the fuck out of me (though i'm single now, so there's not much to worry about)

Not possible. Pregnancy tests check for a different hormone that has to do with the fetus (cant remember the name of it right now), and not with leves of estrogen or progesterone. Its one of those myths that people continue to think, but isn't true. I thought it was, until my physiology professor made a point of killing it for the whole class.

yah I heard that as well
but I always wonder what creates false negatives, even personally know someone who got a false possitive
is it just the test defected, or one of those mysteries of life?

False positives would be very rare, and yes, would be a faulty test. To be positive, the test has to detect the hormone, and theres no way it could be detected if its not present, so the test itself has to be screwy. A false negative would just be that the hormone wasn't picked up by the test, and would occur much more often than a false positive. Makes sense?
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

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6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

Thurnez Isa

no it makes perfect sense

I remember at the time telling her it was probably cause the product was just junk, but I didn't really know enough how pregnancy tests actually work to give any real quality feedback
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Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

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B_M_W

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 03:29:05 PM
Heads up, this is a long post, as I am trying to catch up with everything I missed. Sorry!

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 25, 2007, 11:56:46 PM
Darth Cupcake, would you be willing to yield to the statement, "Biology impacts personality.

But no where near as much as culture, nurture, and society."

?

Because thats where I sum it up. Even coming from where I am.

I will agree on this. Because I'm sure to a small extent it does.

What I don't like is when gender is used to lump people together in large groups instead of taking into account the individual. My gender has had an impact on who I am, just as my race and socio-economic class and nationality have. But these are pieces of a whole, and it is naive to think that "all women are the same" anymore that we'd say "all Americans are the same" or "all middle class white girls are the same." When we start discounting the individual in favor of labels, everyone loses.


This is the correct motorcycle.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on June 26, 2007, 05:42:18 PM
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Not possible. Pregnancy tests check for a different hormone that has to do with the fetus (cant remember the name of it right now), and not with leves of estrogen or progesterone. Its one of those myths that people continue to think, but isn't true. I thought it was, until my physiology professor made a point of killing it for the whole class.

(snip)

False positives would be very rare, and yes, would be a faulty test. To be positive, the test has to detect the hormone, and theres no way it could be detected if its not present, so the test itself has to be screwy. A false negative would just be that the hormone wasn't picked up by the test, and would occur much more often than a false positive. Makes sense?

okay then it was probably some freak chance occurance.

either way, the story is true, because my friend's an uncle now, and they didn't find out about the pregnancy before it was too late.

and that possibility really freaks me out.

i need to sort out a LOT of shit before i think i'm ready to be a father.
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

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Darth Cupcake

Quote from: triple zero on June 26, 2007, 06:05:25 PM
either way, the story is true, because my friend's an uncle now, and they didn't find out about the pregnancy before it was too late.

and that possibility really freaks me out.

i need to sort out a LOT of shit before i think i'm ready to be a father.

Yeah, you are on the list of people that that possibility is really seriously freaky to.

-DC
Uses the most hardcore birth control ever, plus rubbers, but there's always that margin of potential failure... :eek:
Be the trouble you want to see in the world.

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: triple zero on June 26, 2007, 06:05:25 PM
i need to sort out a LOT of shit before i think i'm ready to be a father.

let alone facing your own mortality. 

bt, still workin on that one  :|

LMNO

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM

Uses the most hardcore birth control ever, plus rubbers, but there's always that margin of potential failure... :eek:


Please note that the most hardcore form of birth control is a hysterectomy.


That is all.

Darth Cupcake

Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM

Uses the most hardcore birth control ever, plus rubbers, but there's always that margin of potential failure... :eek:


Please note that the most hardcore form of birth control is a hysterectomy.


That is all.

Trust me, I would if I could.

Instead I have a device INSIDE my uterus. It is pretty insane. But good until 2011!

-DC
Babyfree till 2011 hopefully!
Be the trouble you want to see in the world.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM
Yeah, you are on the list of people that that possibility is really seriously freaky to.

what do you mean with that? i don't quite understand it.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Darth Cupcake

Quote from: triple zero on June 26, 2007, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM
Yeah, you are on the list of people that that possibility is really seriously freaky to.

what do you mean with that? i don't quite understand it.

Sorry. That was a really poorly worded sentence.

What I meant is "I feel the same way!" There is a list of people who are scared of the possibility of the stealth pregnancy. You are on it, and so am I.

Sorry. Me talk good. :oops:
Be the trouble you want to see in the world.

Triple Zero

ah ok, i thought it was something like that, but it kinda sounded like "yea it would freak me out as well if you were to reproduce" ;-) so i was making sure :)
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

PopeTom

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM

Uses the most hardcore birth control ever, plus rubbers, but there's always that margin of potential failure... :eek:


Please note that the most hardcore form of birth control is a hysterectomy.


That is all.

Trust me, I would if I could.

Instead I have a device INSIDE my uterus. It is pretty insane. But good until 2011!

-DC
Babyfree till 2011 hopefully!

By device you mean 'sperm hunting robot' I hope.
-PopeTom

I am the result of 13.75 ± 0.13 billion years of random chance. Now that I exist I see no reason to start planning and organizing everything in my life.

Random dumb luck got me here, random dumb luck will get me to where I'm going.

Hail Eris!

Darth Cupcake

Quote from: PopeTom on June 26, 2007, 09:16:29 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:17:35 PM

Uses the most hardcore birth control ever, plus rubbers, but there's always that margin of potential failure... :eek:


Please note that the most hardcore form of birth control is a hysterectomy.


That is all.

Trust me, I would if I could.

Instead I have a device INSIDE my uterus. It is pretty insane. But good until 2011!

-DC
Babyfree till 2011 hopefully!

By device you mean 'sperm hunting robot' I hope.


That is in fact exactly what I meant.

It has lasers!
Be the trouble you want to see in the world.

Triple Zero

AWESOME!

like this? (NSFW, but not gross)
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.