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THE CANCER KILLING PDCOM - Blow-by-Blow Coverage of Democratic Primary Race

Started by tyrannosaurus vex, January 04, 2008, 06:15:23 AM

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Cain


LMNO


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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


LMNO


AFK

So, I was literally falling asleep in my chair last night watching the Dems debate in Las Vegas.  Seriously, the single most boring event ever held in Las Vegas I'm guessing.  I mean, okay it's good they buried the "race card" hatchet but does that mean you need to go on a 2 hour snooze inducing love fest with no substance?  Jeebus, one of those suits could be in the White House next January, and the thought of that fills me with anything but a feeling of safety and security. 

Obama really does look inexperienced in the debates.  I really doubt him being able to handle a Katrina-like crisis.  I think he's be more responsive than Bush was, at the very least in a PR sense.  But in a logisitcal sense, I'm not so sure.

Hillary to me is pure ambition.  Too much ambition I think.  And man, I wouldn't trust her for a second.  She just seems very shifty when she's answering questions.

Edwards, who are we kidding.  He has a snowball's chance in hell.  And he's a one trick pony.  Yeah, yeah, we get it John.  The Middle Class is getting screwed over.  So what the hell are you gonna do about it?

Fuck me, I'm gonna vote for my cat. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain


AFK

It would have been pretty pathetic if he had lost Michigan.  Just about everyone in his family has run for office in Michigan.  His dad for Gov (actually I think he WAS governor for awhile if I remember correctly), his Mom for Senator, his brother for State Attorney General, I think his uncle Al ran for head of the Sewer District.  He was a shit-head. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain

Yeah, I was reading about that on BBC News.

Also, lol, Ron Paul came fourth.  You'd think the Lizard Conspiracy would stay away from Michigan, especially at this time of year.  I bet its freezing up there.

AFK

Paul even beat Giuliani.  Seriously, that guy needs to give it up.  With the win in Michigan, Romney's gonna get a bump from that.  And actually, he has a pretty big lead with delegates.  He has 44, Huckabee has 36 and McCain has 19.  Mr. 9-11's got a fat goose egg.  I know he's counting on Florida to get him back in the game but I don't see it happening.  I think it's pretty much between Romney and McCain at this point.  Maybe Huckabee get's in the mix here and there. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain

I'd agree.  It depends how McCain does against Huckabee, I think.  McCain will likely pick up more support among independents in New England states, whereas Huckabee might have the Bible Belt pretty much down.  I don't know which primaries come first however, but whichever does will shape media perception a lot more.  If Romney does take the lead, he'd be sensible in picking McCain as VP, it would shore up a lot of moderate support for him.

AFK

Yep.  The other route he could go would be to pimp more of his business and executive credentials.  Olympics, etc., and then pick someone like Huckabee as a running mate.  Because, in what I've seen, he's really been focusing a lot of attention on the social aspect of Conservatism, which I think he did because he does have some question marks there.  But with the economy being the big issue in the U.S. now, if he played up that experience more, I think he'd probably do better. 

Because McCain is going to have a really hard time pitching himself as a saviour on the economic front.  And as time goes on, the U.S. voting population is going to be less concerned about security and terrorism outside of a major terrorist attack. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

Incidentally, has Obama come up with any sort of comprehensive governmental strategy other than "Hope and Change"?


Because the current Governor of MA ran on that, and nothing has changed, except more foreclosures, a dozen or so murders, failing education, and we're building a casino to try to make a buck off the back of the poor.

Cain

I posted his book in the random links section.  You could probably read it yourself.

Also, I thought McCain had it pretty sewn up on the economic front?  While he wasn't for tax cuts that, incidentally, only benefitted the richest segments of society, I thought his record on government spending was meant to be fairly solid?

AFK

Yeah, but government spending doesn't hit very close to home.  Sure, if affects taxes, but people are going to be more interested in jobs, the sub-prime mortgage debacle, housing prices, issues like that.  I feel like McCain really hasn't addressed as much these sorts of things.  Romney, on the other hand, has had practical experience in turning around companies that were failing economically.  I'm not sure McCain has anything to really combat that. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain

Ah, fair point.

On the other hand, no-one can manage the US economy but public perception rarely takes such things as "facts" into account.