Avatar = srs business?

[Epimetheus]

The stupid thing about this is...ok, well, everything about this is stupid. But I don't get how these people can honestly hate the human race or 'Western' society after seeing Avatar - because they seem to accept intellectually that it's just a movie. And it's a movie completely crafted BY HUMANS, IN THE WESTERN WORLD.
people make me so 

[Captain Utopia]

I'll let you know in about 5 hours after I get back. Last thing I saw in imax was AI... it's been a while

  Thanks, I knew I could count on you.

What ended up happening is that all the computer generated stuff looked more "real" than the live-action stuff - sets and props just looked like plastic and chipboard with stickers and flashy lights. So during the entire movie I felt completely un-blazed, despite more-than-adequate preparations 

Though I have an idea why audiences and the vatican are going crazy about it.. trope-wise it's completely over-loaded, but expertly crafted together. Stealing a thought from the "narratives" thread - religions tend to claim some of the most evocative stories for themselves.. and from that perspective Avatar can be made to look like it's promoting a secular religion.. in a manner more compelling than anything a church has to offer.

Many of the tropes I had fun recognising, and others I found myself vulnerable to regardless. I'm not too ashamed to admit that I laughed in places and teared up in others. In terms of memes and pop-culture references and coffee-table psych, I predict it'll be about the same as The Matrix.

The stupid thing about this is...ok, well, everything about this is stupid. But I don't get how these people can honestly hate the human race or 'Western' society after seeing Avatar - because they seem to accept intellectually that it's just a movie. And it's a movie completely crafted BY HUMANS, IN THE WESTERN WORLD.
people make me so 

My guess would be simple them vs. us - there were a bunch of "honourable" humans in the film, and plenty of OTT caricatures to boo and hiss at.

[Epimetheus]

It's funny...the religions of the exploited are always held more highly by wannabe hippie nincompoops than the ruling religions...

Actually, in a different light, FP, I would say that the bad guys in Avatar were being too secular and not respecting the sacredness of life and that. I mean, the bad guys didn't have any religion. The Na'vi, though, were utterly religious (although it had a natural basis).

[The Johnny]

Which group would the Vatican prefer?:

Burguoise atheists vs. revolting heretics pagans

Finally we have an answer for this long unanswered hypothetical !!!

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

i thought it was a nice shiny movie and enjoyed all the blue things popping out at me
and i wont let my enjoyment be ruined by what a bunch of depressed hippie retards on a forum said 

[Captain Utopia]

It's funny...the religions of the exploited are always held more highly by wannabe hippie nincompoops than the ruling religions...

Actually, in a different light, FP, I would say that the bad guys in Avatar were being too secular and not respecting the sacredness of life and that. I mean, the bad guys didn't have any religion. The Na'vi, though, were utterly religious (although it had a natural basis).

This is also why Kai's talk about an emergence-based religion excites me - once you take paranormal out of the list of requirements, by creating an alternative belief-system without it - the old-school religions loose ground. The Na'vi had a God constructed from a giant neural net (?), which to all intents and purposes was superior to any concept of a God we've been given - they could communicate with it as easily and trivially as a generation today checks twitter on their mobile phones.

The bad guys were just dicks - I really think it is the religious aspect rather than the secular one which is perceived as more of a threat by other belief systems.

Maybe "secular religion" was a stupid term for me to use..

[Brotep]

I'll let you know in about 5 hours after I get back. Last thing I saw in imax was AI... it's been a while

  Thanks, I knew I could count on you.

What ended up happening is that all the computer generated stuff looked more "real" than the live-action stuff - sets and props just looked like plastic and chipboard with stickers and flashy lights. So during the entire movie I felt completely un-blazed, despite more-than-adequate preparations 

Though I have an idea why audiences and the vatican are going crazy about it.. trope-wise it's completely over-loaded, but expertly crafted together. Stealing a thought from the "narratives" thread - religions tend to claim some of the most evocative stories for themselves.. and from that perspective Avatar can be made to look like it's promoting a secular religion.. in a manner more compelling than anything a church has to offer.

Many of the tropes I had fun recognising, and others I found myself vulnerable to regardless. I'm not too ashamed to admit that I laughed in places and teared up in others. In terms of memes and pop-culture references and coffee-table psych, I predict it'll be about the same as The Matrix.

The stupid thing about this is...ok, well, everything about this is stupid. But I don't get how these people can honestly hate the human race or 'Western' society after seeing Avatar - because they seem to accept intellectually that it's just a movie. And it's a movie completely crafted BY HUMANS, IN THE WESTERN WORLD.
people make me so 

My guess would be simple them vs. us - there were a bunch of "honourable" humans in the film, and plenty of OTT caricatures to boo and hiss at.

God, I hope it doesn't end up being the next Matrix.  That got pretty annoying.

So how many blank stares would you give it, out of five?

[Eater of Clowns]

You could pretty much get all the enjoyment possible out of Avatar by blocking your ears.  It's purely a visual experience, and one that I thought was fairly impressive in IMAX 3D.

[Brotep]

So basically Avatar is that smokin' hot pseudointellectual that you didn't invite over to talk with?

[NotPublished]

Just go watch it, who cares what others say. If you like it - you do, if you hate it - you do.

Just take a friend that you can easily get amused with, if your somewhat bored just start making fun of people.

I know I enjoyed the movie, and it helped that I found the main actor a bit of eye candy .. I got sad when he became one of them

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

the human lead guy in it is hawt.  

[NotPublished]

WHY DID HE HAVE TO TURN?!

If I met him I'd jump him

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

ME TOO 

[NotPublished]

Back off! 

[Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ]

NO. I SAID HE WAS HAWT FIRST