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Started by Adios, December 28, 2010, 04:45:20 PM

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Adios

An international group of scientists are aiming to create a simulator that can replicate everything happening on Earth - from global weather patterns and the spread of diseases to international financial transactions or congestion on Milton Keynes' roads.

Nicknamed the Living Earth Simulator (LES), the project aims to advance the scientific understanding of what is taking place on the planet, encapsulating the human actions that shape societies and the environmental forces that define the physical world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12012082

Somehow this makes me squirm uncomfortably.

Faust

It won't work, at least in the financial area, you can't accurately simulate the capricious Market moods.
Would love a a proper environment simulator.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

LMNO

I can't possibly conceive the amount of memory needed to do this.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Charley Brown on December 28, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
An international group of scientists are aiming to create a simulator that can replicate everything happening on Earth - from global weather patterns and the spread of diseases to international financial transactions or congestion on Milton Keynes' roads.

Nicknamed the Living Earth Simulator (LES), the project aims to advance the scientific understanding of what is taking place on the planet, encapsulating the human actions that shape societies and the environmental forces that define the physical world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12012082

Somehow this makes me squirm uncomfortably.

OMG IT'S FUCKUP*!



*First Universal Cybernetic- Kinetic-Ultramicro-Programmer. FUCKUP predicts trends by collecting and processing information about current developments in politics, economics, the weather, astrology, astronomy, and technology. - The Illuminatus Trilogy
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Adios

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 28, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
I can't possibly conceive the amount of memory needed to do this.

If you accept that only a fraction of the "several hundred exabytes of data being produced worldwide every year... would be useful for a world simulation, the bottleneck won't be the processing capacity," says Mr Warden.

"Getting access to the data will be much more of a challenge, as will figuring out something useful to do with it," he adds.


A double fuckton!

Epimetheus

You know what this means. Once they think they're predicting the future, Discordia gotta step in.
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Jasper

This makes me want to build a weather control device just to fuck with them.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Quote from: Charley Brown on December 28, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
An international group of scientists are aiming to create a simulator that can replicate everything happening on Earth - from global weather patterns and the spread of diseases to international financial transactions or congestion on Milton Keynes' roads.

Nicknamed the Living Earth Simulator (LES), the project aims to advance the scientific understanding of what is taking place on the planet, encapsulating the human actions that shape societies and the environmental forces that define the physical world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12012082

Somehow this makes me squirm uncomfortably.

I'm picturing a bunch of old dudes like that shadow conspiracy group from the X-Files.  All gathering together at some British location, sipping tea, and plotting how to take over the world with aliens. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Faust

Quote from: Ratatosk on December 28, 2010, 04:54:21 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 28, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
An international group of scientists are aiming to create a simulator that can replicate everything happening on Earth - from global weather patterns and the spread of diseases to international financial transactions or congestion on Milton Keynes' roads.

Nicknamed the Living Earth Simulator (LES), the project aims to advance the scientific understanding of what is taking place on the planet, encapsulating the human actions that shape societies and the environmental forces that define the physical world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12012082

Somehow this makes me squirm uncomfortably.

OMG IT'S FUCKUP*!



*First Universal Cybernetic- Kinetic-Ultramicro-Programmer. FUCKUP predicts trends by collecting and processing information about current developments in politics, economics, the weather, astrology, astronomy, and technology. - The Illuminatus Trilogy
to be honest, using the iChing like fuckup did would probably get at least as accurate results as this proposed project. And probably be a hell of a lot cheaper.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Adios

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 28, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 28, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
An international group of scientists are aiming to create a simulator that can replicate everything happening on Earth - from global weather patterns and the spread of diseases to international financial transactions or congestion on Milton Keynes' roads.

Nicknamed the Living Earth Simulator (LES), the project aims to advance the scientific understanding of what is taking place on the planet, encapsulating the human actions that shape societies and the environmental forces that define the physical world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12012082

Somehow this makes me squirm uncomfortably.

I'm picturing a bunch of old dudes like that shadow conspiracy group from the X-Files.  All gathering together at some British location, sipping tea, and plotting how to take over the world with aliens. 

Well, as long as they use aliens.  :)

Richter

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 28, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
I can't possibly conceive the amount of memory needed to do this.

For a totaly inclusive and accurate model it would be beyond impractical.  Everything would have to be tracked from at least the molecular level to even approach accuracy, tracking molecule on Earth, knowing exactly where each was at the same instant as a starting point.  (Which could be really fun to observe the changes that arose between simualtion and reality due to atomic / subatomic forces over time, and how fast they accumulate to affect the model's accuracy.)

That having been said, this is likely to need to take signifigant shortcuts just to get going.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Richter on December 28, 2010, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 28, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
I can't possibly conceive the amount of memory needed to do this.

For a totaly inclusive and accurate model it would be beyond impractical.  Everything would have to be tracked from at least the molecular level to even approach accuracy, tracking molecule on Earth, knowing exactly where each was at the same instant as a starting point.  (Which could be really fun to observe the changes that arose between simualtion and reality due to atomic / subatomic forces over time, and how fast they accumulate to affect the model's accuracy.)

That having been said, this is likely to need to take signifigant shortcuts just to get going.

This is where that holographic universe theory would come in handy... they would only need to process the relatively smaller chunks of inclusive data and extrapolate. However, since that model may be entirely bullshit, I'm not sure what they think they're doing.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Ratatosk on December 28, 2010, 09:18:28 PM
Quote from: Richter on December 28, 2010, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 28, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
I can't possibly conceive the amount of memory needed to do this.

For a totaly inclusive and accurate model it would be beyond impractical.  Everything would have to be tracked from at least the molecular level to even approach accuracy, tracking molecule on Earth, knowing exactly where each was at the same instant as a starting point.  (Which could be really fun to observe the changes that arose between simualtion and reality due to atomic / subatomic forces over time, and how fast they accumulate to affect the model's accuracy.)

That having been said, this is likely to need to take signifigant shortcuts just to get going.

This is where that holographic universe theory would come in handy... they would only need to process the relatively smaller chunks of inclusive data and extrapolate. However, since that model may be entirely bullshit, I'm not sure what they think they're doing.

They've probably found a way to market error.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.