BREAKING: MAN CHANGES GLASS OF WATER INTO AN OAK TREE!

[LMNO]

well I had a lot of fun thinking about it, and it drew my attention to the relationship between words and the things they represent. So to me, it wasn't crap or a troll.

Apologies.  Since this is another manifestation of Map/Territory, I was quite sure you had already gone down this road before, multiple times.

[Cramulus]

it's not enough to hear about these things and then walk around all enlightened or some shit - I need constant reminders of my cognitive biases, and that the material plane is only part of the story.



I'm also on a gnostic kick this week, so I'm enjoying revisiting my opinions and ideas from a more gnostic point of view. I'm not usually into spirit/matter dualism, but this week I'm giving it a mental shot. This article seemed like a good way to highlight the conceptual/spiritual world that lurks behind the physical one.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Oh, well then.  I guess Nigel really IS a dragon.

[Cramulus]

if you interpret the OP literally, it does sound silly

[Cain]

This thread is mired in Cartesian Duality.




































No, it really actually is this time.

[Jenne]

Hooray for René 

I find it absurd how much our brain just filters out as ''unimportant''.
As young infants we never did this. A conversation in this room was just as important as he dishwasher in the next. Sure before around 18-24 months we didn't have a measurable sense of self but our senses requiring outside input were superhuman. Yet if we experienced that sort of unfiltered input in adult life it'd fuck us up. Royally. It's a shame really. I'd love to experience that unfiltered input whist being self aware even if just for a moment. 

Who is by brain to make all these decisions as to what i am aware of at any one time? 

[Adios]

Damn. I seriously thought this thread was started for the comedy.


Going to my room now.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

[Jasper]

Damn. I seriously thought this thread was started for the comedy.


Going to my room now.

It was, but then it wasn't, and then it was, and then it wasn't.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Hooray for René 

I find it absurd how much our brain just filters out as ''unimportant''.
As young infants we never did this. A conversation in this room was just as important as he dishwasher in the next. Sure before around 18-24 months we didn't have a measurable sense of self but our senses requiring outside input were superhuman. Yet if we experienced that sort of unfiltered input in adult life it'd fuck us up. Royally. It's a shame really. I'd love to experience that unfiltered input whist being self aware even if just for a moment. 

Who is by brain to make all these decisions as to what i am aware of at any one time? 

That's what LSD is for.  Take a hit, and spend the next 8 irreplaceable hours of your life seeing everything at once.  Hint:  It makes you into a moron.

[Jenne]

Damn. I seriously thought this thread was started for the comedy.


Going to my room now.

Aw, Hawk.  You know how this place rolls. 


(downhill)

[hooplala]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

Art is intended to challenge conceptions and provoke discussion... your mind is clearly made up on this particular matter, and that's perfectly fine, but it begs the question: why are you still wasting your time in this thread?

[Phox]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

Art is intended to challenge conceptions and provoke discussion... your mind is clearly made up on this particular matter, and that's perfectly fine, which then begs raises the question: why are you still wasting your time in this thread?

Because some of us like ridiculing the ridiculous.

[hooplala]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

Art is intended to challenge conceptions and provoke discussion... your mind is clearly made up on this particular matter, and that's perfectly fine, which then begs raises the question: why are you still wasting your time in this thread?

Because some of us like ridiculing the ridiculous.

Funny, I only saw you whining about puns. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

If words don't actually represent the things they're supposed to represent, then communication is impossible, and we should all go drown ourselves in patchouli.

Art is intended to challenge conceptions and provoke discussion... your mind is clearly made up on this particular matter, and that's perfectly fine, but it begs the question: why are you still wasting your time in this thread?

How long have you known me, Hoops?   

Also, "challenging conceptions" may be a VERY valid reason for art - not to mention critical thinking - deciding that words don't actually mean anything doesn't actually fall under that description.  No, it's more of a "teenagers at Starbucks discussing 'philosophy'" thing.

I feel the same way about number theory, incidentally.  2+2=4, and if you can't prove that on your fingers, you're either an amputee, or someone looking for a grant.