OPEN BAR: I see you've come to PD. I too like to live dangerously

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am morally opposed to involving police in anything whatsoever no matter what.  However, I am also strongly morally opposed to letting this asshole kill a family because he can't plan his drinking nights responsibly.
I am trying to figure out what my options are here.

First, I need to know what your objections to the police are.

[P3nT4gR4m]

So let me get this straight...you're morally opposed to involving the police in a situation where they can and actually probably should do something?

I get why you don't like the police...but are you really saying you value that principle above others lives?  Suck it up and report the bastard.  Either that or go kneecap him yourself.  Don't be a moron.

This!

[LMNO]

Seriously, Macklemore?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5350869

[Suu]

I think I found a fun way to spend my afternoon.

hxxps://www.facebook.com/nobodyforpresident

[trix]

So let me get this straight...you're morally opposed to involving the police in a situation where they can and actually probably should do something?

I get why you don't like the police...but are you really saying you value that principle above others lives?  Suck it up and report the bastard.  Either that or go kneecap him yourself.  Don't be a moron.

No, you misunderstand me.  I'm not against police involvement on principle, it is simply that in practice, in the area I live, involving the police into any situation tends to make the situation worse.  Every time I have made this mistake, in the interests of the greater good, the outcome was 100% worse than had I not bothered.  For example, I used to have a neighbor that beat his kids.  One day I heard through the wall (side-by-side duplex) what sounded like him throwing his 8 year old down the stairs, causing her to scream in pain and cry loudly.  Then I heard her father, angry at her for being so loud, proceed to berate her more and what sounded vaguely like a whipping.  So, despite my reservations, I called the police and explained the situation.  TWO HOURS LATER an officer arrived, knocked on the door, and explained the complaint to the father, asking to see the daughter.  The father brought his 12 year old to the door rather than the 8 year old, and thus there were no visible (fresh) wounds, and the kid denied everything.  Further, the officer told the father it was us next door that had called them, and then left.  I caught the officer as he was walking towards his car and pointed out that it was the wrong daughter that had come to the door, and the officer told me if I didn't stop harassing the neighbor he was going to give me a fine.  The next three weeks I started having flat tires, broken windows, missing items, and other pissed-off-neighbor problems.

That's one random example among many I can give, and while I don't know the police in other areas, where I live they only seem to care about finding a way to arrest whoever bothered them, grabbing whatever drugs they can find, and getting out of there.  I suspect informing them that I know a guy that drives drunk on a regular basis would not only get mostly ignored, but would end up with the person being informed that I ratted him out, and I'd have to, once again, deal with retaliation, while the original problem gets ignored and unsolved.

I'm distracted ATM prepping for a job interview so I'm not re-reading and editing this, so if I didn't explain myself well here I apologize.  Suffice it to say I'm not so much anti-police in general, as I am anti-the-police-in-my-area, as those I have enough direct experience with to know they are not there to help, and don't want to.  My sister was in the process of joining the local police force herself until she saw enough going on internally to realize that they don't want people like her (people whos main priority is to help others, protect and serve and all that), and certain people were actively blocking her attempts to make it into uniform.

TLDR version:
I do not value my anti-police principle above others lives at all, I simply do not believe the local police would do anything that would effectively help the situation, while at the same time, I believe they *would* find some way of making it worse.

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

I just don't know what to do, but I don't want to fall into the "Somebody Else's Problem" mindset until I hear his next drunk driving story on the news rather than from his mouth.

Speaking only for myself, since i don't know what your issues with cops are, I would consider reporting him. See if there's some way you can tell the cops that this guys drives drunk all the time and so the next time he swerves into a checkpoint they can be aware.
EDIT: I posted this before reading your above post, trix. That sounds terrible.

Or, alternate option, the next time he starts up with his drunk bragging, get in on it. If there's people around who are strangers to him, make sure you corroborate his story as loudly as possible, ensuring that everyone within the sound of your voice knows that the person in question is both a drunk driver and is proud of it. Then let years of social evolution and cultural conditioning overwhelm his sense of shame as everyone around shoots him dirty looks and quiet judgement. and again, do this with a bright cheery smile as you proclaim to the world what a great (and more importantly, prolific) drunk driver this guy is.

[trix]

That said, if I knew ahead of time, or AT the time, exactly when and where he was driving drunk I certainly WOULD call the police and they would likely be forced to pull him over and arrest him.  Problem with that is that I only hear about it after the fact, a day or two later.  I don't go drinking with this person (or at all).

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I just don't know what to do, but I don't want to fall into the "Somebody Else's Problem" mindset until I hear his next drunk driving story on the news rather than from his mouth.

Speaking only for myself, since i don't know what your issues with cops are, I would consider reporting him. See if there's some way you can tell the cops that this guys drives drunk all the time and so the next time he swerves into a checkpoint they can be aware.
EDIT: I posted this before reading your above post, trix. That sounds terrible.

Or, alternate option, the next time he starts up with his drunk bragging, get in on it. If there's people around who are strangers to him, make sure you corroborate his story as loudly as possible, ensuring that everyone within the sound of your voice knows that the person in question is both a drunk driver and is proud of it. Then let years of social evolution and cultural conditioning overwhelm his sense of shame as everyone around shoots him dirty looks and quiet judgement. and again, do this with a bright cheery smile as you proclaim to the world what a great (and more importantly, prolific) drunk driver this guy is.

This is the correct answer.

Or you just do the Howl method.

"At what point is that supposed to be socially acceptable, cool, or intelligent?"

[P3nT4gR4m]

Here's how my brain approaches the problem. Solutions in order of preference.

1) Tell him he's an behaving like an asshole and if I ever get wind of him in a car, drunk, I'll report him to the police and/or rip his goddamn legs off

2) (he's a huge-ass psycho, who can take me in a fight and/or stove my windows in, get me kneecapped, etc.) Phone filth. Ask for traffic. Explain the situation.

3) Torch his motor

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Seriously, Macklemore?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5350869

Well, maybe he was sick of his career?  He's had to sing the same song for how long, now?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Had a nap.  Still fucked.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Nothing going on here.  Off to torment yahoos on facebook.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The pills have worn off to the point where I can touch type again.

Which implies that more are in order, because my eye itches like Gene Simmons' ballsack.

[EK WAFFLR]

I'm in a foul mood today. Almost chewed the head off a customer who had the gall to not hear me when I asked her a question. I'm feeling a need to write again, too.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

So I am switching stores and inadvertently blew up the old one with some insane drama I didn't have any idea would happen but probably should have. Whoops. My bad, I'll show myself out.

As punishment I get to start my new better-paying pick-my-own-schedule gig early.